And if you already worked on yourself, and are doing better than 80% of people you know in other aspects of life, but still no girl would ever be with you?
Well how are you a piece of shit then? You obviously have things going fot you then... Like I said negativity is unappealing. It's hard to convince someone to like you, if you don't like yourself. That's something to work on.
That's why people dont like each other and just talk togather because of they have this habit, in real or virtual life, virtual dating is the worst thing that we have in our life, it doesn't help, young people doesn't even know how to start a convo in real life, bow to be polit and how communicate with others ! That is so sad, because using internet for dating, you just hide behind your real personality and you just show what you or others want you to be ! Then you can not present yourself in real world, because you have to get out of your hiding skin !
Did you forget to read the take or did you just ignore to come here to spread your pointless opinion? I told in the take to take the convo into the real world as fast as possible. Missed that, huh? The goal is always to get the first date and actually see the person
Doesn't help? I'm dating now, bunch of people I know are dating because of dating apps. It's making this whole process so much easier. We can hold conversations just fine, thank you very much!
Yep, people changing their partener faster, people fell more lonely and people chat with their virtual friends even when they are in a relationship 😊 Good luck with dating apps 😉
Well it at least helps people like me and many apps are free if you don't want to spend any money. It's not really that expensive though, if you get a premium access in one of them.
Well I consider myself somewhat average looking and not only have I never had a relationship nor hookup from any dating apps, but I've never even had a proper conversation with any woman at all. I've messaged around 60 girls on OkCupid and only 3 gave me a reply back, but even they quickly decided they didn't wanna message me anymore (for no reason). And with Tinder, on the very few instances I've matched with a girl, they never reply to me when I greet them and start the conversation (which makes me wonder why they even swiped me to begin with). I've been using the apps for a good 15 months now. So say what you will but if they don't like the look of you they won't give you their time.
Well there you go, you got matches. The thing is girls get a lot of messages in dating apps. It's just how it goes, because of how dating works (guys make the first move). Maybe you need to think about your approach more, maybe you're just not standing out from the crowd. I got a date by taking something from the girl's bio and making a funny role play out of it. She found it funny and interesting..
Yeah I've heard that simply opening with "Hey" will most likely get you ignored. Problem is, most girls on Tinder only put a one sentence bio so there's no material for you to use. Lately I tried something a little different on OkCupid. This one particular girl mentioned her Instagram and funnily enough it was her name and my name concatenated (even though I'm Arab and she's white). So I used that in the message and said "Could it be destiny? :P", and I still got ignored. Girls are hard to impress.
If there's a short bio or none at all, the pics usually have a lot of info to grab onto. Just gotta be creative about it. They're hard to impress, because there's a lot of competition. You gotta constantly try to think what you could do better and how you could improve your profile and pics etc. Getting feedback is useful..
Well that's exactly why it's not happening for you. This isn't a movie, it's real life, it takes effort. The girls can't read your mind. You only get one first impression.
No, I don't believe it should take effort just to get a text back. That's ridiculous. The actual relationship that comes afterwards will take effort, that's different. But to be denied the chance of getting to know her all because you failed to meet her unreasonably high expectations of making a first impression, even though you weren't given much to work with anyway, just makes it seem almost impossible. Girls need to lower their standards a little and give us more of a chance even if we weren't outstandingly clever and witty in our first move.
Just for a second try and imagine yourself in the shoes of a pretty girl. You get bombarded with dozens of messages a day and you're trying to plow through them to maybe find one that's not a fuckboy. Half of the messages are just a simple hello or something, some of them are just plain weird or awkward and maybe couple of them are interesting, engaging, witty etc. Who are you going to message back? You don't have all day messaging dozens of guys, you have actual life to live and obligations. Obviously you're going to message the guys who are engaging, right?
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Question: what to do if you are an undesirable piece of shit and no girl in the world would ever be with you?
I would work on myself, negativity is unappealing.
And if you already worked on yourself, and are doing better than 80% of people you know in other aspects of life, but still no girl would ever be with you?
Well how are you a piece of shit then? You obviously have things going fot you then... Like I said negativity is unappealing. It's hard to convince someone to like you, if you don't like yourself. That's something to work on.
But its a catch 22. How do you like yourself when you know nobody ever has?
Well I went to therapy
Me too, but didn't help
You could try and fake it till you make it, I kinda did that too.
Oh and could just be that the therapist wasn't right for you, you could try another one. I interviewed therapists until I found the right one for me..
I am faking it, if I wasn't I would have no friends. As for therapists, I changed 3 so far
Well I'm out of ideas, you just gotta keep working on it.
That's good it's working for you. I personally wouldn't like it
That's why people dont like each other and just talk togather because of they have this habit, in real or virtual life, virtual dating is the worst thing that we have in our life, it doesn't help, young people doesn't even know how to start a convo in real life, bow to be polit and how communicate with others !
That is so sad, because using internet for dating, you just hide behind your real personality and you just show what you or others want you to be !
Then you can not present yourself in real world, because you have to get out of your hiding skin !
Did you forget to read the take or did you just ignore to come here to spread your pointless opinion? I told in the take to take the convo into the real world as fast as possible. Missed that, huh? The goal is always to get the first date and actually see the person
Doesn't help? I'm dating now, bunch of people I know are dating because of dating apps. It's making this whole process so much easier. We can hold conversations just fine, thank you very much!
Yep, people changing their partener faster, people fell more lonely and people chat with their virtual friends even when they are in a relationship 😊
Good luck with dating apps 😉
Yeah whatever negative Nancy, good luck to you too with.. whatever you're doing..
I honestly meet chicks in Craiglist. I suck in person.
I keep hearing about craiglist on tv, but I honestly don't know what it is :D good that you found a way!
Never heard of anything good about Craigslist.
@MysteriousDarkness I've gotten laid off cl. No complaints from me.
CL of all places
i chatted too long before the date or not at all, gunna try and get it right next time
I think they can be beneficial for some people... Good view
Yeah the ice is already broken and you both know what you’re looking for and that each of you is single
I find them good to see a lot more people than just meeting up at clubs or dances. A bit like a kid in a candy store you are spoilt for choice !!!
yeah there seems so much more social anxiety so apps might help
Online dating sucks. It's just a bunch of companies capitalizing a biological need/desire.
Online dating is the same thing as charging people to poop in a paystall.
I don’t pay for dating apps
Well it at least helps people like me and many apps are free if you don't want to spend any money. It's not really that expensive though, if you get a premium access in one of them.
I used to get a lot of rejections on dating apps or end up being just a chat buddy
Dating apps are useless if you're not good looking.
I know a bunch of average looking people who've had success including myself.
Well I consider myself somewhat average looking and not only have I never had a relationship nor hookup from any dating apps, but I've never even had a proper conversation with any woman at all. I've messaged around 60 girls on OkCupid and only 3 gave me a reply back, but even they quickly decided they didn't wanna message me anymore (for no reason). And with Tinder, on the very few instances I've matched with a girl, they never reply to me when I greet them and start the conversation (which makes me wonder why they even swiped me to begin with). I've been using the apps for a good 15 months now. So say what you will but if they don't like the look of you they won't give you their time.
Well there you go, you got matches. The thing is girls get a lot of messages in dating apps. It's just how it goes, because of how dating works (guys make the first move). Maybe you need to think about your approach more, maybe you're just not standing out from the crowd. I got a date by taking something from the girl's bio and making a funny role play out of it. She found it funny and interesting..
Yeah I've heard that simply opening with "Hey" will most likely get you ignored. Problem is, most girls on Tinder only put a one sentence bio so there's no material for you to use. Lately I tried something a little different on OkCupid. This one particular girl mentioned her Instagram and funnily enough it was her name and my name concatenated (even though I'm Arab and she's white). So I used that in the message and said "Could it be destiny? :P", and I still got ignored. Girls are hard to impress.
She mentioned her Instagram in her bio*
If there's a short bio or none at all, the pics usually have a lot of info to grab onto. Just gotta be creative about it. They're hard to impress, because there's a lot of competition. You gotta constantly try to think what you could do better and how you could improve your profile and pics etc. Getting feedback is useful..
Eh, all that seems like too much effort for what should be something simple and natural. They make it seem like a chore.
Well that's exactly why it's not happening for you. This isn't a movie, it's real life, it takes effort. The girls can't read your mind. You only get one first impression.
No, I don't believe it should take effort just to get a text back. That's ridiculous. The actual relationship that comes afterwards will take effort, that's different. But to be denied the chance of getting to know her all because you failed to meet her unreasonably high expectations of making a first impression, even though you weren't given much to work with anyway, just makes it seem almost impossible. Girls need to lower their standards a little and give us more of a chance even if we weren't outstandingly clever and witty in our first move.
Just for a second try and imagine yourself in the shoes of a pretty girl. You get bombarded with dozens of messages a day and you're trying to plow through them to maybe find one that's not a fuckboy. Half of the messages are just a simple hello or something, some of them are just plain weird or awkward and maybe couple of them are interesting, engaging, witty etc. Who are you going to message back? You don't have all day messaging dozens of guys, you have actual life to live and obligations. Obviously you're going to message the guys who are engaging, right?
I guess that makes sense.
Success with beautiful women
Success with beautiful women?
I highly doubt that dating apps will work for me
Well there does seem to be very mixed results for people, but you never know, if you never try.
i have
Tinder sucks, so does POF and OKC. dating has become a joke
Tinder worked for me. Might depend on where you live. There's a lot more dating apps than just those three.
those are the top 3, you got Coffee Meet Bagel, Tagged, etc
I just downloaded coffee meet bagel, does that app work?
Dating apps have been relatively underwhelming for me tbh. But I guess that's because even online women detest me before knowing me
I've never had any success with it.
You have some good points
Is there a chance of getting a hottie if you're not good looking?
I don't know, I guess it's much less likely, but nothing's impossible. Dating apps are very much based on initial impression from looks.
Yes, it has helped for some. Nice take.
No apps for me thanks.