Men are in competition with one another so women will obviously target the wealthier dudes and get to know them instead of the poorer guy. Also status gives women information on the guy so they can preselect the men they wanna date.
With all due respect I think you need to acknowledge hypergamy, competition in the dating world and the fact that women are seeking the top dudes they not looking for some ugly loser living in an apartment working a boring job that gives him no status.
Unless you are super lucky or good looking poor dudes will be single for life that's just how it is some guys don't make the cut.
I mean, yeah, some definitely will. But you also have to consider the type of women you're referring to. If you use super hot chicks will have the pick of the litter; regular women... not so much.
Even regular women want top men too. What regular women would pick a poor dude with no status over a wealthier one with status whether she's a super model or not same standards are applied. There are many dating methods these regualr women can use to find the man they wish especially if they still young. In dream land you are correct but I live in a harsh Californian reality. The system is simply against us poor ugly dudes admit it sista.
One of my experiences was an SO that always complained whenever a gift wasn't some sort of expensive jewelry. I guess hand made stuff that takes work and effort meant nothing. Also complained about me not giving her a car or taking her on vacations.
She didn't work or anything. Just greedy and selfish. She wasn't someone very young or any of that BS excuses either. Only 2 years younger than me. Of course I ended it because she was just scum in my view. And yes, when I filed for divorce, she contested it to try to get money from me. Well, I made sure to not work at all until after it was finalized so she got nothing. And plenty of women around my own age seem pretty greedy and selfish.
For me now, I will never pay a woman's way for anything until she has paid for me first. And fuck the BS of wanting jewelry or nothing. And hell no I'll never provide a car for one either.
If you want a future with us, tell the family courts to stop fleecing money out of the mans pocket straight into hers. Feminism has destroyed the natural order and as a man i fear my efforts of a stable future could be totally destroyed by a gold digger.
I did notice that and I’m glad you are aware of the biggest issues that surrounds today’s marriage implications. I am friends with a feminist and when I discussed with her the real issues of marriage and family courts she told me to change my views. When she was 18-21 she expected men to pay for her because she was poor and I always believed she was a bunny boiler. Later on this same girl accused me of sexual harassment when she remembered how we met 4yrs ago where all I had done was playfully pinch her bum on a forest trail. Without doing that I would not have met her as she was a fast walker and had headphones in her ears. To accuse a man of sexual harrasment for something so silly means she could really harm a guy in court. Even after I told her that women pinch my bum and I don’t believe it’s harassment, she refused to change her mind and when I laughed her off as being funny, she said she’s being serious. I departed friendship as I couldn’t take her seriously anymore. Thoughts?
Lol no dude, people dont like when others are honest.
This myTake simply stated that we want a partner equal or a bit better than is financially, for a more stable future.
Thats it. Chronic Thinker just expressed it more erm, colorfully lol
The men on here contradict themselves so much. They complain about women dating jobless, no future assholes, but then complain about women seeking stable partners.
They piss themselves off by being illogical, then downvote the opinions that point this out.
Whats hilarious, is that the same men who bad comment or downvote, had no hesitation upvoting and complimenting me when I posted the heartfelt mytake about men's sacrifice and devotion, having been raised primarily by men my whole life.
Lol but okay.
Whats ironic is most men prefer a self sustained partner similar to them, so I dont see what the problem is here lol
But this isn't the first time peoole snootily ignore truth. Thot the world was flat for a while afterall lol
The immaturity of this girl is clear to see, she represents modern women, childish, pathetic, lousy, inferior, redundant, spoilt, obnoxious, conceited, pointless and selfish.
Totally agree. I don't care about money per se, though a guy has to have some way to support himself. What I care about is him, who he is, his body, his mind, his heart, his soul. Money and status... look, Mark Zuckerberg has more money and status than anyone, and I wouldn't fuck him at gunpoint, so it's not the main thing.
OH MY GOD. How deluded women are, honestly i'd like to see a show with a lie detector to check if you even believe that stuff yourself. It's all about socio-economic standing in the hierarchy, the more attractive/wealthy you are, the higher you go. Women aren't any better than men, in fact you even have more numerous shallow standard than we do. SHOCKER, not all women can get the most handsome or the richest! It doesn't mean that they don't want to. It's like saying women don't care about height because there's this short dude who has a girlfriend, ohh and he's super famous and rich it just so happens.
Lady, your opiniom is irrelevant. Studies show that women are not willing to "date down", that is, they don't like men who make less than them. This is generally true. This is unacceptable from a logical perspective - you have your own job, and his, too, why do you need him to make more? That's not only shallow, but illogical.
Don't believe me? Ask yourself if a woman earning 6 figures would marry a guy earning 5. 99% of the time, she wouldn't.
Women instinctively like to know that the man they're with can support their children. It's an instinct. If you have a job and are working hard, with goals and plans for the future, if you're generous and supportive (not suppporting them but supportive) you will do fine. If you righ and stingey, poor because you have no desire or drive to do better, or consider all women gold diggers, than it's not ggoing to work out.
Raise a chorus of Hallelujahs, some meditative slow claps, and a round of applause for everything in this. I have no additional comments regarding the contents of this mytake because it simply encapsulates everything I wish guys would admit about relationships. I wish people would stop feeling sorry for themselves and would start working towards their goals instead of feeling mopy because the real world doesn't serve their entitlement mentalities.
Self absorption isn’t confined to any socio-economic level. Look at our Prez. He is the most needy, narcissistic public person I’ve ever known. Instead of surrounding himself with wiser counsel, he fires anyone who disagrees with him. Yet he is m1ybe the most powerful man in the world. Imagine him with his personality but with no power or money. Would he have even the remotest chance of having a fulfilling lobe life or set of friends.
I love all the men saying women won't date a guy with a low paying job because they want financial stability. Yes, women want a man who will provide a FUTURE- stop bringing up how men will date a woman with an equally low paying job, when I see the same users talking about how they'll only go out with "hot women". Kettle, meet fucking pot.
The problem is the ones who are the princesses who want a guy for their money are the loudest. same thing that puts men as dogs.
Great women aren't rejecting guys based on money, but they never say why so we have to make it up as we go along to improve ourselves or our (ugh) game.
Seriously I think most guys think more about what they did wrong and how they can do better than they do about actually approaching a woman, and thats there downfall.
Well I know someone that want to be with a man, Handsome, Successful (doctor), with inherited shit money and really LOYAL person (almost everything) Did that make her Gold digger? . . . . . . No cuz She can provide the same to the man and She is doctor (my G. F) too, Man live in dream land too cuz prince only marries common constructor in dreams only.
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I 100% agree with most of what you said but sometimes men just need time. I have a friend whose girlfriend left him for a guy who made more money she believe he would never go anywhere in life. jokes her he now makes $6000 a month and he worked his ass off to get there. if you truly like someone you should give them a chance to prove they will make something of themselves. that's why guys like me bitch so much because it seems like not one girl wants to build with us. a strong women can make any kind of men into a success with time.
For your information, anonymous users can still post an answer. Anyway, I’m not sure why you had to predicate your opinion with you not being a feminist. Money, power, and fame attract women. These qualities make it easier to attract women. Women desire to be taken care of; they want a man to secure funds when they get pregnant and produce offspring. It’s human nature. Men don’t care what women do because it’s not their wealth that attracts men; it’s physical beauty.
I'm sure most men saying this are just having a laugh and don't actually believe that. However that said a small minority of women are like that and they can be difficult to spot when your mind is clouded by your attraction to them. I suspect some have had bad experiences and overexaggerated a little.
This article... actually really helped me out a lot with my insecurity. I tend not to trust people as im worried id get cheated on. While wealth was one of my worries being sexually satisfying is another big worry for me. But this my take actually did help me a little so thanks.
How many women have you dated to come to this conclusion? Your theory sounds good, but reality... that's a whole different story. Sure the women are going to agree with you, because no one is going to admit that they value money and status are they?
the thing of this is, is that there is also nothing wrong with have a value to how much money a S. O makes or their status... it's when too much value is placed on it that it becomes a problem. I could say that about anything when it comes to dating though. I mean if you are looking for your 10/10 woman in looks, good luck. That and you'll narrow down your dating pool significantly. if you aren't well rounded in what you are looking for chances are you either won't find it, or won't be happy once you do.
for instance, SURE I want someone who I am attracted to (and as weird as this will sound) but I allow a bit of wiggle room for looks, especially if she has other characteristics that are what I'm looking for. I just don't place so much emphasis on looks that it deters me from other aspects of a woman, unless I truly don't find her attractive. another aspect I'm hoping to find is an educated woman. someone who I can have intellectual conversations with. That would affect her status...
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Men are in competition with one another so women will obviously target the wealthier dudes and get to know them instead of the poorer guy. Also status gives women information on the guy so they can preselect the men they wanna date.
With all due respect I think you need to acknowledge hypergamy, competition in the dating world and the fact that women are seeking the top dudes they not looking for some ugly loser living in an apartment working a boring job that gives him no status.
Unless you are super lucky or good looking poor dudes will be single for life that's just how it is some guys don't make the cut.
I mean, yeah, some definitely will. But you also have to consider the type of women you're referring to. If you use super hot chicks will have the pick of the litter; regular women... not so much.
Even regular women want top men too. What regular women would pick a poor dude with no status over a wealthier one with status whether she's a super model or not same standards are applied. There are many dating methods these regualr women can use to find the man they wish especially if they still young. In dream land you are correct but I live in a harsh Californian reality. The system is simply against us poor ugly dudes admit it sista.
One of my experiences was an SO that always complained whenever a gift wasn't some sort of expensive jewelry. I guess hand made stuff that takes work and effort meant nothing.
Also complained about me not giving her a car or taking her on vacations.
She didn't work or anything. Just greedy and selfish. She wasn't someone very young or any of that BS excuses either. Only 2 years younger than me. Of course I ended it because she was just scum in my view. And yes, when I filed for divorce, she contested it to try to get money from me. Well, I made sure to not work at all until after it was finalized so she got nothing.
And plenty of women around my own age seem pretty greedy and selfish.
For me now, I will never pay a woman's way for anything until she has paid for me first. And fuck the BS of wanting jewelry or nothing. And hell no I'll never provide a car for one either.
If you want a future with us, tell the family courts to stop fleecing money out of the mans pocket straight into hers. Feminism has destroyed the natural order and as a man i fear my efforts of a stable future could be totally destroyed by a gold digger.
I actually have spoken out about the issues of divorce and custody battles in favour of females, in fact, I mention it in this article.
I did notice that and I’m glad you are aware of the biggest issues that surrounds today’s marriage implications. I am friends with a feminist and when I discussed with her the real issues of marriage and family courts she told me to change my views. When she was 18-21 she expected men to pay for her because she was poor and I always believed she was a bunny boiler. Later on this same girl accused me of sexual harassment when she remembered how we met 4yrs ago where all I had done was playfully pinch her bum on a forest trail. Without doing that I would not have met her as she was a fast walker and had headphones in her ears. To accuse a man of sexual harrasment for something so silly means she could really harm a guy in court. Even after I told her that women pinch my bum and I don’t believe it’s harassment, she refused to change her mind and when I laughed her off as being funny, she said she’s being serious. I departed friendship as I couldn’t take her seriously anymore. Thoughts?
Mate... don't associate yourself with freaks. That's all I can say.
@Unit1 yeah i get that, thanks anyway
Another raw piece of truth.
No steak sauce.
Purely meaty deliciousness.
Guys crying about this are most likely metrosexual diva man bitches.
Here before 10 downvotes.
Another bitter feminist
@Stephen5577 Bud, people disagreeing with ya or having an opinion doesn't mean they're a part of the bra-burning army. Relax.
@Stephen5577
Lol I did the featured myTakes about anti-feminism and male sacrifice...
Whatchu talkin bout willis?
Is this a downvote record?
@your_ego
No I made it to 45 on an opinion before.
The funny thing is that people think it matters
You get xper for having just one upvote so I got me points xD
The downvotes make more people interested in reading the opinion, so the message can spread faster to the diva man bitches.
Its all a process
Wow, 45? Shit, I've barely reached 4 I think. So on some level, you do try to piss off the guys, then?
@your_ego
Lol no dude, people dont like when others are honest.
This myTake simply stated that we want a partner equal or a bit better than is financially, for a more stable future.
Thats it. Chronic Thinker just expressed it more erm, colorfully lol
The men on here contradict themselves so much. They complain about women dating jobless, no future assholes, but then complain about women seeking stable partners.
They piss themselves off by being illogical, then downvote the opinions that point this out.
Whats hilarious, is that the same men who bad comment or downvote, had no hesitation upvoting and complimenting me when I posted the heartfelt mytake about men's sacrifice and devotion, having been raised primarily by men my whole life.
Lol but okay.
Whats ironic is most men prefer a self sustained partner similar to them, so I dont see what the problem is here lol
But this isn't the first time peoole snootily ignore truth. Thot the world was flat for a while afterall lol
@your_ego
Guys, is it weird to date a girl with more money than you? ↗
Look at all the guys agreeing with a stable wealthier female partner.
**So its okay for men to desire a stable partner, but women not to?
What in the realest fuck man.
Dont let these dudes wrap you up in their pity party on here.
The immaturity of this girl is clear to see, she represents modern women, childish, pathetic, lousy, inferior, redundant, spoilt, obnoxious, conceited, pointless and selfish.
Totally agree. I don't care about money per se, though a guy has to have some way to support himself. What I care about is him, who he is, his body, his mind, his heart, his soul. Money and status... look, Mark Zuckerberg has more money and status than anyone, and I wouldn't fuck him at gunpoint, so it's not the main thing.
OH MY GOD. How deluded women are, honestly i'd like to see a show with a lie detector to check if you even believe that stuff yourself. It's all about socio-economic standing in the hierarchy, the more attractive/wealthy you are, the higher you go.
Women aren't any better than men, in fact you even have more numerous shallow standard than we do. SHOCKER, not all women can get the most handsome or the richest! It doesn't mean that they don't want to. It's like saying women don't care about height because there's this short dude who has a girlfriend, ohh and he's super famous and rich it just so happens.
Two types of females seek relationships with males.
Real women want a future.
Little girls want money.
Lady, your opiniom is irrelevant. Studies show that women are not willing to "date down", that is, they don't like men who make less than them. This is generally true. This is unacceptable from a logical perspective - you have your own job, and his, too, why do you need him to make more? That's not only shallow, but illogical.
Don't believe me? Ask yourself if a woman earning 6 figures would marry a guy earning 5. 99% of the time, she wouldn't.
Women instinctively like to know that the man they're with can support their children. It's an instinct. If you have a job and are working hard, with goals and plans for the future, if you're generous and supportive (not suppporting them but supportive) you will do fine. If you righ and stingey, poor because you have no desire or drive to do better, or consider all women gold diggers, than it's not ggoing to work out.
Dear women, we don't want the shit that comes with a future with you period.
As for money your take is a ruse.
Sex is still ok; I will still donate to/for that.
That's fine. If you're just down to fuck bitches I don't judge.
Raise a chorus of Hallelujahs, some meditative slow claps, and a round of applause for everything in this. I have no additional comments regarding the contents of this mytake because it simply encapsulates everything I wish guys would admit about relationships. I wish people would stop feeling sorry for themselves and would start working towards their goals instead of feeling mopy because the real world doesn't serve their entitlement mentalities.
Self absorption isn’t confined to any socio-economic level. Look at our Prez. He is the most needy, narcissistic public person I’ve ever known. Instead of surrounding himself with wiser counsel, he fires anyone who disagrees with him. Yet he is m1ybe the most powerful man in the world. Imagine him with his personality but with no power or money. Would he have even the remotest chance of having a fulfilling lobe life or set of friends.
I love all the men saying women won't date a guy with a low paying job because they want financial stability. Yes, women want a man who will provide a FUTURE- stop bringing up how men will date a woman with an equally low paying job, when I see the same users talking about how they'll only go out with "hot women". Kettle, meet fucking pot.
The problem is the ones who are the princesses who want a guy for their money are the loudest. same thing that puts men as dogs.
Great women aren't rejecting guys based on money, but they never say why so we have to make it up as we go along to improve ourselves or our (ugh) game.
Seriously I think most guys think more about what they did wrong and how they can do better than they do about actually approaching a woman, and thats there downfall.
Well I know someone that want to be with a man,
Handsome, Successful (doctor), with inherited shit money and really LOYAL person (almost everything)
Did that make her Gold digger?
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No cuz She can provide the same to the man and She is doctor (my G. F) too, Man live in dream land too cuz prince only marries common constructor in dreams only.
I 100% agree with most of what you said but sometimes men just need time. I have a friend whose girlfriend left him for a guy who made more money she believe he would never go anywhere in life. jokes her he now makes $6000 a month and he worked his ass off to get there. if you truly like someone you should give them a chance to prove they will make something of themselves. that's why guys like me bitch so much because it seems like not one girl wants to build with us. a strong women can make any kind of men into a success with time.
For your information, anonymous users can still post an answer. Anyway, I’m not sure why you had to predicate your opinion with you not being a feminist. Money, power, and fame attract women. These qualities make it easier to attract women. Women desire to be taken care of; they want a man to secure funds when they get pregnant and produce offspring. It’s human nature. Men don’t care what women do because it’s not their wealth that attracts men; it’s physical beauty.
I'm sure most men saying this are just having a laugh and don't actually believe that. However that said a small minority of women are like that and they can be difficult to spot when your mind is clouded by your attraction to them. I suspect some have had bad experiences and overexaggerated a little.
This article... actually really helped me out a lot with my insecurity. I tend not to trust people as im worried id get cheated on. While wealth was one of my worries being sexually satisfying is another big worry for me. But this my take actually did help me a little so thanks.
How many women have you dated to come to this conclusion? Your theory sounds good, but reality... that's a whole different story. Sure the women are going to agree with you, because no one is going to admit that they value money and status are they?
Very true.
the thing of this is, is that there is also nothing wrong with have a value to how much money a S. O makes or their status... it's when too much value is placed on it that it becomes a problem. I could say that about anything when it comes to dating though. I mean if you are looking for your 10/10 woman in looks, good luck. That and you'll narrow down your dating pool significantly. if you aren't well rounded in what you are looking for chances are you either won't find it, or won't be happy once you do.
for instance, SURE I want someone who I am attracted to (and as weird as this will sound) but I allow a bit of wiggle room for looks, especially if she has other characteristics that are what I'm looking for. I just don't place so much emphasis on looks that it deters me from other aspects of a woman, unless I truly don't find her attractive.
another aspect I'm hoping to find is an educated woman. someone who I can have intellectual conversations with. That would affect her status...