Women Don't Want Money, But They Want What It Can Buy

[Z-Spark]

I will be honest i have never dated a woman who said "you must have money" in fact all the girls i went out with never talked about money or asked about it.... however i noticed that my friends who did have money were far more capable than me despite them asking me for advice since they dont know how to treat a woman, i also observed a lot of relationships and i came to the conclusion that : women do not want your money, however they do want what your money can buy .

what does it mean ? i just said they dont want money, which is true, they couldnt care less about how much you make a month if you can provide them with a fun time and go out with them and treat them like they want to be treated.

and i see a lot of women on here commenting how money shouldn't be an issue and you can go on cheap dates or take a walk somewhere and no need to spend money or have unnecessary expenses cause girls aren't after your money .... here's the issue :

to go on a date you need a car, a car costs a lot of money to buy and keep plus the gas, cause lets face it if you're driving a girl around it ain't gonna be cheap ... as for those who claim that a night at a guys place is more than enough, well i can assure you that having a place of your own is pretty expensive when you have no job or you dont make enough because of other expenses (a college student for example) , my friends who luck out with girls have a place and a car, that their parents pay for cause they are rich, and from what i observed having your own place is like a "free sex" ticket that has no expiration date .

Girls claim that they want a fun guy a guy who can make them happy and help them have fun, but what they fail understand (or they do but refuse to admit it) is that to have fun you need money, i have a lot of friends who are players and they tell me about their sexual endeavors and how easy is it to get some girls (who they call easy and slutty) so i asked once ... "okay she's easy but what did you do to get laid ?" and my friend's answer was :

" I took her with my car, we went to a nearby store and i got her some alcohol then rented a hotel room and had sex with her " .... basically he spent about a 100$ that night to get laid and to him that was an easy lay cause most girls require more work, well i think you got the idea .

of course some will say " but life isn't only about sex, some girls want something real, want a companion, a boyfriend , someone to love" and i agree with you some girls will stay with a broke guy until he is in a good shape financially but here's the issue with your theory :

1- such girls do exist but are rare if they are hot

2- usually these girls are unattractive and they have no choice but to stick around since they lack options, a broke guy whose decent is better than being alone ... hot chicks dont have that issue .

when men talk about getting a quality woman they are talking about a pretty woman who is not fat, doesn't sleep around, decent, has a good personality, caring ,loyal and basically a girl that a lot of guys want ... I don't know about you guys but i never met such a woman married to a broke guy or even dating one (unless she's very desperate ) .

even when it comes to relationships women still want to have good time and enjoy spending time with the guy and that requires money, even the cheapest of dates required me to drive 30 mins to get the girl and another 30 mins to get her home, and i needed a car and money for gas which we all know is not cheap, so no matter how you look at it , dating requires money, no need to be rich but you need money that some guys simply dont have especially if you are a point of your life that you need every cent and can afford to blow money on a girl that may or may not be interested in you .

when i see people on here calling someone idiotic for not dating cause he has no money i just think to myself " well they are suggesting cheap dates, but do they understand the amount of work done behind the scenes to go on such dates ? "

So my conclusion is that : Women do not want your money, but they do what what it can buy

[Anonymous]

So...

1. Me: Tells guy on first date, "I'm not going to date you unless you have money to support both of us and ensure I have a good time all the time. If you don't have enough money for all of that, you're not worth it. Clearly."

Him: breaks up with me because he assumes I am a gold digging whore only after his money and not the quality of his character

2. Me: tells guy on first date, I'm not worried about your money situation whether it's good or bad. I'm more interested in getting to know you and where this goes.

You: clearly she's so incredibly ugly and desperate and is lying about the fact that she is definitely hung up on how much money he has. Assumes she can't possibly be making enough money for herself or them and/or cares nothing about a man beyond his wallet or will only stick around if he is model hot.

Men: I'm looking for a girl who wants to get to know me (or at least sleep with me), not who is interested in how much money I make.

Reality: Come on man! This is your expert analysis of money/women/men relations. DUH, you need money to do more than just basic survive on this planet. Even before you go on any type of date, you need fuel or bus money to get to work, you need a place to live if not with your parents, you need clothes to wear. You need money to eat. Who is questioning whether or not money is important in this world?

You have a choice as to wether you want to spend some of that hard earned money in the dating world or purely on your own survival. That's your choice whether you buy that dinner for just you or go to whatever concert. You are not being forced to do that stuff, so this whole, but women want us to have money... DUDE WE ALL NEED MONEY!! I and you need to have money whether we're dating or living on our own. It takes time, money, and effort for women to date as well, but those are choices you make. In most relationships I've been in, I've paid for dinner, dates, and activities also. I don't have expectations that men should just pay my entire way all the way through our relationship, but you're acting as if women in the dating world literally do nothing, and men do everything and have to pay for everything (if you end up with one of those girls, you can break up if you want, but you don't, and then get mad about it and blame ALL women... but a zebra shows it's stripes, believe it).

[DizzyAster]

I think Kanye West said it best, "I'm not saying she's a gold digger, but she don't want no broke *racial slur*!"

Think of the long term. If you and your girl decide to have a family, the man will have to pick up the slack since the woman will be out of commission from anywhere from 4 months for maternity leave to years until she can get back to work.
So, if you were ok as a two paycheck household family, you will struggle as a 1 paycheck household of THREE, at least!!

So, dudes, make money, save money, get thrifty.

[Z-Spark]

no other way really thats all we can do to make things work

[WalterRadio]

You do have some insight, but you haven't gone quite far enough.

Having a car, a place, enough to buy dinner or symphony tickets is the baseline. I typically expect to pay $200 to $500 on a typical date. My high is about $5,000 and I've seen quite a few over $1,000.

Many women don't care about where the money comes from to pay for things. They just want to be able to do it or have it. They see other women flying off for a weekend getaway and coming back with designer purses and they want that too. A very few can afford to do that themselves, but for the rest, they need a guy who can.

But it is not so much the money, it is the power that comes with it. I have literally told someone to tear down a house that I thought was in the way, and it was done. But what they really like is for me to use my power to solve their troubles. Maybe their car payment is due tomorrow and they just spent all their money on text books. That is a problem. I can make it go away. Maybe they have a dilemma that only the power of experience can help, and no money is involved, but the experienced is usually gained during the acquisition of money.

[Z-Spark]

you summed it up pretty well, when i wrote this take i had the same thoughts that you just described, women want their issues to go away, they want to have stuff, and for some they need a guy to do that for them... i figured this a long time a go, money is not the real the real issue is what money can get.

a lot of women claim to not care about money and they are being 100% honest however what they do ask for in a guy is either bought using money or acquired getting that money, so if you think about it, getting money equals getting girls.

[errorgoodnameunfound]

I think your opinion had quite some points to it up until assumptions were made. There are PLENTY of understanding girls who will go out of their way to date guys with no money and even pay for some things themselves as long as they feel the guy has potential and is working to better himself. Likely they are rare because they are taken or possibly don't have much themselves. But the whole "they are usually ugly or fat" is setting up a trap. It's setting a standard for certain aspects. Once you set a standard of what you want for a girl, they can also set a standard for you. Hence, why you want somebody "attractive" but the "attractive" ones want somebody with cash. It's a two way road. Also , looks are EXTREMELY deceiving. Don't rely on them ever. I have a friend who fooled several people into thinking he was a hot model just through the way he changed his voice and likely his profile pic. Also, I know a guy who never gave a girl a chance because before she was too dorky. Now he HIGHLY regrets it because now she's SUPER hot according to him. Also, the whole "fat" thing is something that can go away anyway so why worry if the personality is cool? People lose weight all the time. Physical appearances can change. Minds often don't. Choose wisely.

[mamamai]

Sometimes I wonder if some guys don't realize all PEOPLE are looking for the best mate they can get.

Money, Beauty, Brains, Talent, Personality, they all mean something. The more you have these qualities (Man or Woman) the more options you have and the pickier you are going to be. It's simple, don't complicate it

[yankees2]

Whatever. I shouldn't have to be held to a higher standard seeing how woman can get what the fuck they want without having to do much. I don't play the stupid games with women. I should get some fucking pussy without having to jump through so many hoops. You fucking women don't see how good you have it today.

[mamamai]

@yankees2
You are talking about HOT girls. Ugly girls have to jump through hoops to even be thought of as a woman. Why do you think there are ugly women who get plastic surgery to be more attractive?

Also there is a lot more effort on the women's side then you may think

[Z-Spark]

where in my take did i state anything against that? i was just explaining how things work i never said it was right or wrong, iam just telling it how it is, a lot of girls truly dont care about how much money you make but they care about the experience you give them, and that requires money, thats all there is to it.

[mamamai]

No, but you made it out as though guys aren't as demanding. Rich guys don't often marry poor women.

[Z-Spark]

guys do have their own standards, they want good looking women with very low sexual count (virgin if possible) , but not they dont care about money, rich guys sometimes end up with rich girls cause they come from noble or prestigious families and their parents set them up together its not about money its about class, they dont want their son to marry a commoner they want a woman from an equally prestigious family.

[mamamai]

Are you saying this from experience? I have a wealthy family and none of the guys will look twice at a girl who isn't as career minded as them. Typically the hottest wealthy guys date models or sometimes even strippers (which make a lot of money). Plus they have lots of options of pretty wealthy women.

[CactusJuice]

You sound like a helpless puppy. Stop crying about it. Forget about your friends' situations. You are not them. Take responsibility for your own happiness. Put some thought and a lot of effort into it.

Cars, gas, apartments, money... Are these things helpful to have? Probably. Are they necessary? No!

Heck the last date I went on was with a girl I met at school (around your age btw). She drove to my place, and she drove to dinner! If you can't afford any type of meal then take her to a little league game, or ice cream, or attend a free event at your university, or play a board game, or go hiking...

USE YOUR IMAGINATION. For your own good, stay positive and get creative.

You don't know what a girl is like... until you know her. Every girl you'll meet will be different. Stop pretending that at 23 years old you have girls all figured out. You've dated very few women so far.

[Z-Spark]

are you married?

[Warmapplecrumble]

I don't know if I am hot. You can see my picture.

I came from a good lifestyle. I actually did earn more than my fiancé.

My fiancé is working class, and now we are poor. But he loves me, gives me a home, cuddles me, understands me, I can go on and on.

BUT No money can replace him ever.

All I want is to spend much time as possible in his arms, I don't want anything else.

[Z-Spark]

love is nice and it is a good thing to have, but in the long run , at some point even without your love fading if your fiance remains broke you will start to wonder where you life is heading, it happened way too many times, not saying you're a gold digger at all i am just stating how humans work, especially women, women want success, and at some point if they can't have a man who is successful enough to be their equal or more they will start wondering if its a good investment to remain with the same guy.

[Warmapplecrumble]

I don't really care for finances.. I actually wanted to go off grid but it seems like that dream is impossible for me to achieve in this moment.

To me its our time we share and experiences we have, the money is pointless if he's not here to spend time with... the only reason why he earns it is because it provides food shelter and travel.. :-/ sadly I don't know how to cut down on those things

[Z-Spark]

you will not like it when he stops earning that money, in theory you act all lovey dovey, in reality you won't live like that and you can't

[Warmapplecrumble]

Basically if there is no food or warm place to live, we will die. It won't be a nice death... very slow and painful. But to be honest I wouldn't care.

[Bananaman177]

Women don't want to build a winning team, they want to buy a winning team. First you have to already be winning on your own, then you're good enough for a girl to want to come along and "help" you win.

Then women wonder why men don't appreciate them above any other toy or trophy, lol. They thought that was what you were for. It's how you acted.

[Z-Spark]

sadly the truth, at least haven't met any attractive girl who didn't do that

[SirenDep]

It's true, to a degree. A woman wants an independent man, who controls his own life. This requires having a job and a lifestyle that fits. An independent man might have a small job as a waiter, but doesn't own a car and goes around on public transport, and still is controlling his own life. Another man might be a student and have an expensive car and money to go out on restaurants, but since it' s his parents' money, he has to explain himself and everything to does to them, so he's not independent. And to be honest, while getting expensive gifts doesn't matter at all, it matters trying new experiences together, and going on trips. Also, a quality woman might choose to be with such a man, for 2 reasons, insecurity or true love

[metalsucks2]

But then what do you have to offer in return? I believe both men and women should earn money.

[SirenDep]

@metalsucks2 I agree on that.

[Anonymous]

OK OK OK now let's clear something who wants to date somebody who is broke? Honestly I work very hard for my money and I am not going to support anyone other than myself even if I am dating I would rather go half-and-half Dan just get stuck with the bill or let My partner pay for everything I think we should all be equal and fair

[Z-Spark]

no one wants someone broke indeed, but as a man when i get into dating i must have money even if just enough to fill the gas tank and drive around but i can't be broke, as a woman you dont have to have money, literally men will marry a girl who has her bank account in the negative

[soulbabe]

what you talking about boy I dont care if he lives with his mom i don't care if he got a bad ass car or if he can buy me shit. im happy spending time in the creek or looking at stars ill be happy to walk I don't mind. pfft im more likely to go pick him up and make him lunch I don't need him seeing my famliy. hell i sit at a tuble with him and help him figure out his finacing if he wants. hell normly when i like a somone i start cooking for them a lot not sure why i just do its weird. but rather i like him or not i won't date guys or girls at all anyway

[Z-Spark]

lol comeone you're 17 i am sure most of that is not important to you, try being a 22 years old college student with options iam sure your view will change

[soulbabe]

nope, i have no options zip zero bupkiss. I go to a virtual reality school which means prom is not a real thing for me boys I talk to in the class are real but they live across the country. for instance I like talking to Andrew in my class he's a sweetie. but he lives in North Carolina and I live in Iowa. i dont date anyone for 2 reasons one nobody wants the same life I want two ha if they could survive my family they must be super human.

[Z-Spark]

you have a special situation that most people dont really have so iam not saying you're lying or anything and maybe you are going to like a guy without money if he happens to like the same lifestyle as you... i will share something with you, i noticed something about women, they dont care a bout money, like literally they are being 100% honest when they say " i do not want your money " however and here where the real issue arises (Most men aren't aware of this) what women do want, and ask for can be provided either by having money or acquired on the way to getting money, money is not the real goal money is just a tool to be happier and life a more satisfying and comfortable life and have skills that women do like.

[Z-Spark]

women like guys who can play an instrument and work out... thing is these two things require money and dedication, but more importantly money, so thats what i mean, when a woman finds a guy who is good looking and can play the guitar she's instantly attracted, but she has no idea that he spent thousands of dollars to learn how to play, what she knows is that he knows a lot about music, can play and seems intelectual and deep

[soulbabe]

like i said the likeness of me finding someone who wants the same life I do is like 1 in 20000. because I want to live on a homestead. meaning your ass is up feeding pigs cows chikens and what not you're working in the garden and green house you're making flour and oil you're balling the hay cutting hooves your not running to the Walmart down the street. its a lot of work. yah i know they dont know what girls want i grew up in a house of boys. i think the worst question i was ever asked was by my 11-year-old cousin latching on to my leg and saying Katie, what do girls like

[soulbabe]

i grew up around music my uncle used to play a lot so i can't say i notice to much about that

[Arcari]

Let me share my experience and be completly honest with you.

First about myself. im 27, im from Argentina and live there to. I have a pretty good look being honest.

I dont have money. or at least im always pushing what i had to reach end of the month.

I do bealive you can date without relying on money, but you have to be smart. Thing is most guys who do happen to have money have more chances to do thing like go out, wich you can think as having more card on your deck. Not better! just more.

I knew this beautiful girl, a cheerleader, smart also. what do i do? we started to talk. a lot. I take her to walk, pleying games on tge street. Make a girl happy it isn't about money but rather what can you do yourself to create a good time. we laught a lot! make jokes and talk about all subjects. I can't afford to take her to dinner. Here on Argentina dinner is preetty much expensive.. So i cook for her :). I can't afford many things so..

[Arcari]

i had to be smart or creative. Instead of a movie i took her to knew the thather while nobody was inside (a friend let me pass) really abbeautiful thing. Insteas of a ride in a car whe went on a bus to a next city and stood by the lake all day. Instead of buying her presents i make a draw for her. and many things more.

Of course when i have the money i love to take her out! and she know it. But when i can't we split things and thats something she also knows. In my experience.. womans valorate more the will of a men, his strenght in life and self confidence, the strength to support her and his will to build a destiny for himself rather than money.

Now we have 4 years since im her boyfriend.

So my advice is.. proyect a future for yourself. be strong about it, have self confidence, be fun and optimistic, be the only owner of your life and a mature person and there's no girl that won't like who you are no matter you wallet size.

also i have a dick of 23cm... that might help.. kidding XP

[LittleSally]

Are you telling me men don't want what money can buy?
Because I sincerely doubt it...

[Z-Spark]

they do, but when dating a new girl we literally do not care about what she can buy us

[mamamai]

You care if she can afford to look good.

[Z-Spark]

@mamamai are you implying that its okay to pay a 100$ for a date because she chose to buy a 200$ dress and spend another 50$ on makeup? if thats the case, i have a 200$ prefume , my pants and shirt cost me another 150$ and the car and gas alone are worth more than her entire wardrobe... your logic is flawed, i never told a girl what to wear or how to look like, if she wants to look a certain way thats on her, not my issue, and just so you know a lot of men are paying a fortune to have a better skin, better hair, remove hair and much more...

[mamamai]

No, but if your going after a woman like that she has lots of options so a guys going to need to do more to attract her. If he doesn't want to do more, some other guy will.

[Z-Spark]

@mamamai thats what iam saying, men who pay will get the girl , not because she wants money but because she wants the experience that can be only given to her by using money...

for example : drinking alcohol and eating on the beach, sounds cheap, but a bottle of decent vodka is at least 30$, food will cost another 30$ another 30$ for gas and who knows what other expenses, when you have money a 100$ is nothing, when you're a college student living paycheck to paycheck you start wondering... should i blow my money to get laid, or spend it carefully to not go broke and pause my education for few years?

[mamamai]

Well then, I agree. Both genders make some sacrifices to attract the other

[redeyemindtricks]

"they do, but when dating a new girl we literally do not care about what she can buy us"

^^ ... Only because that's not a realistic possibility, for 99% of boys.

If there was always a ready supply of women literally throwing money at you — even if they weren't typically the most attractive women around — are you SERIOUSLY gna tell me boys wouldn't be ON that, like white on rice?
#getreal

[mamamai]

@redeyemindtricks I agree with you on that.

[redeyemindtricks]

@mamamai... right? It's easy to throw shade at people who fall for temptations that don't even exist for the shade-thrower.

[mamamai]

@redeyemindtricks for sure

[Idonthaveausername]

Lol where are you taking a girl that it costs $30 for gas? It costs me about $25 for a tank of gas that runs 400 miles. You shouldn't be taking a girl on a road trip for a first date anyway

If you can spend $200 on perfume, you can afford to take a girl out to dinner for $30. But good luck keeping a girl you don't think is worth as much as your perfume

Don't assume a woman doesn't have her own car that costs more than your entire wardrobe. If she can afford to drive to a restaurant to meet you, then you can't blame her for expecting you to be able to do the same

And gas seriously isn't that expensive right now. I remember paying $5 a gallon back in '08

If you're broke, you shouldn't be spending a fortune on your skin and hair. You should be spending it on gas to put in that car you can't afford so you can get to work and earn more money

Haha so true that men like what money can buy just as much as women. Humans like what money can buy or else we wouldn't give it monetary worth

[Z-Spark]

@Idonthaveausername i will buy what i want thank you, no woman that i just met is worth that much money, what have you done to deserve that kind of treatment? you built me a house? signed a deal to have sex with 24/7 ? or maybe you helped me get into college? unless its one of those iam sorry but you ain't worth it, i have no reason to spend money i dont have on women i dont know and haven't done anything for me, that entitlement mentality is what iam talking about , a bottle of perfume is once a year , dates are at least twice month, you're suggesting i pay 200$ twice a month? you think iam somekind of an ATM? but of course what can i expect you're a woman you love money can't reason with you when it comes to that, you think you're worth it, plus gas is not the same everywhere in some countries gas is 3 times the price you pay and cars are far more expensive... also i never dated a girl who had a car that she bought (if she had any to begin with)

[Z-Spark]

@redeyemindtricks i would like it if some random women started spending money on me is cool , but to go as far as saying " i only date women who spend money on me" is not something 90% of men will ever do, we dont care, we literally do not care if you're broke or not, and if iam being honest a lot of men avoid rich chicks cause they are too high maintenance for us normal dudes with a normal pay check, you're assuming that men and women think the same... they dont, we dont care how much you make, we dont care if you're a doctor or a lawyer, and we dont care if you have a car or not, but you do care, more than you think, money is number one on the list for most girls even those who are not even worth it, they are taught they are worth out time and money even if the have nothing to offer, i dont play that game and so far i have been doing fine, iam planning on upgrading my game and making more money for for the time being i dont have it.

[Richareens]

You care about their body, specifically pussy, tits and their ass. And now you're complaining about spending money on them? Any decent girl wouldn't put money on the top of her list, so stop stereotyping.

[Z-Spark]

@Richareens well what have i been saying all along? pay her and get laid, thats pretty much what i have been saying the whole time so why do you think that repeating what i say will change anything lol? you have the same point as me, pay the girl and bang her, decent or not all girls want money, they "believe" money is a good exchange for sex.

[Richareens]

Because it's your fault for going after those kind of girls. You dig you own grave, you suck it up and stop stereotyping.

[Z-Spark]

@Richareens by "those girls" i assume you mean attractive ones, so you're saying i should head to unattractive ones cause they will take anything they can get? mhmmmm no thank you that won't work for me.

[Richareens]

You do realise that there are attractive girls who don't fall into that category too. God. By your logic, all attractive girls are sluts. Shame.

[Z-Spark]

@Richareens never said sluts, but what i did say is that they require money to date, sluts are girls who sleep around, i doubt every attractive girl does that, however iam yet to meet an attractive girl dating a broke guy or married to one.

[Richareens]

And girls don't require money to date? When I went for a date with my boyfriend, we took public transportation and I paid for my own bus fare. He didn't have enough coins with him so I paid partly for him. We went to have food and drinks. He offered to pay for me, even got upset and me and told me it was annoying that I didn't let him pay. I still refused to let him pay. Let me tell you that he didn't pay a single cent on that date for me. So I don't knowwhy you're acting salty and saying guys are the only ones who are paying all the time when it doesn't apply to everyone. GOD.

[Z-Spark]

@Richareens I don't know anything about your boyfriend maybe he's super hot and you're lucky to even have a man like that looking your way so you acted like that to keep him around, , maybe it sounded like a good decesion at the time to do that since you liked him a lot, but i doubt you will remain with an average looking broke guy and marry him unless you think you are physically not good enough to get a better guy, girls who know they got it will never settle for less, neither will guys, however those who are not confident enough in their ability to get someone better will stick to whatever they have right now... so as i said i have no idea what your situation is.

[Richareens]

Boy. He's good looking and has a stable income. But you're talking as though I'm some desperate or ugly looking bitch who's gonna stick with a man even if he's gonna be an absolute asshole to me 24/7. I'm 100% confident I'll still marry him even if he's broke one day so you can kindly put that stereotypical logic into the fucking trash bin thank you very much

[Z-Spark]

@Richareens 1- he's good looking, 2- he has a stable income
my point has been made, you are just making a fool of yourself, its simple, he bought you.

[Idonthaveausername]

Lol. Women aren't prostitutes so you can't just slip $200 into a slot and get laid. It's clear you don't want a relationship, so why are you complaining about dating costing money? Why don't you just go find a prostitute?

I've never been on a date that costed $200, the most was $50. My ex spent more on me when I was sick buying me cold medicine and food and stuff to help me get better than he did on or actual dates. You're blowing things out of proportion

Stop being broke if that's such a problem for you

Lol at assuming women don't drive. You don't deserve a girlfriend for only seeing women as sex objects who can't make their own living. I most certainly did buy my own car and do buy my own gas and pay my own rent and utilities and everything else that comes with being an adult. I wouldn't want to go out with someone as misogynistic as you anyway

And yes I am worth it. Men know I'm worth it because of the way I treat them and live my life

[mamamai]

@Richareens z-spark is narrow minded. He can't seem to expand his mind set to believing out of the billions of people on the planet that some guys don't think like him or not all women are how he believes it. Let small minded people be, they won't change their mind. Not insulting you, I'm just bored of having notification from this.

[Richareens]

He bought me? By your logic, your dad fucking bought your mom. Stop acting salty, sikes.

[Richareens]

@mamamai I was going to stop arguining with this salty asshole. I'm done too. Sorry about it 😂

[Z-Spark]

@Idonthaveausername you aren't worth it, you're just leeching off of your boyfriend, no one will say iam worth it if they are actually worth it, and most women treat themselves as sex objects anyway so why should i treat them any differently? they open their legs for the man who pays the most if they are happy like that then why are you mad? i didn't put the rules, dont hate the player hate the game.

i doubt you bought your own care and have your own place all while being a college student, that is is simply not possible no matter how you look at it (unless you become a prostitute, they make good money i hear ) .

are you seriously suggesting i stop being broke? lol you are indeed a little kid if you thing being broke a choice, i work harder than you ever will in your life but i never had the luxury of a rich family, iam at a point in my life where iam broke whether i want it or not , just the fact that you ever suggest something like this shows how low quality you are.

[Z-Spark]

@Richareens salty? do you know another word? did you go to school? i dont like attacking peoples looks but since were at it , you must be unattractive and lack options thats why you are acting like that , hot girls do not settle for broke guys, you will take whatever you can get, its simple, ugly chicks have no options.

[Idonthaveausername]

Lol I'm not leeching off Anybody and I offered to pay him back but he wouldn't let me. I dumped him, so he's not my boyfriend anymore. And he keeps trying to get back with me because I'm his dream girl and he screwed up, so yeah I'm worth it

Lol again. I'm a virgin and can't be bought because I'm not a prostitute. I go out o my way to prevent men from seeing me as a sex object

I paid $1,800 for my car two years ago on Craigslist and I have $8,000 saved up now to buy a nicer one. So yeah I pay for all my own shit and can afford more than you

Lol I work 50 hours a week and have a stable job so I don't need to waste time and money at college. I work hard enough to earn the money I make. Yeah I'm telling you to get a job and stop being broke. Your biggest problem is your attitude, so even being rich wouldn't get you a girl at this point

[Richareens]

@Z-Spark God, you're older than me and you can't figure out how I got my English speaking skills? Yes, I got them from fucking Mars. Here, take a fucking kid for being a genius. Lame comeback indeed, well done. And hell yeah I'm unattractive, and what are you? A shallow, repulsive bozo. Look at yourself first before stereotyping females. Don't bother replying back. God, remind me why I waste time arguing with childish 23 year olds. Good riddance! 😂

[Richareens]

Cookie* bye

[mamamai]

@Richareens it's okay and he's wrong on many things including saying your not pretty. Which was a cheap shot, and not true. Have a nice day :)

[Richareens]

@mamamai thank you! Have a nice day, lovely! 😊😊

[Z-Spark]

patting yourself on the back is the worst tactic you can use, it shows you're weak and have already lost

[Naydyonov]

Yeahp.

I as a guy, really only want money for 3 reasons.
#1: Help my friends. Get them the presents they deserve, help them out with some of their problems.
#2: To be able to have a family that is alive and fed.
#3: To be able to contribute to community projects.

My friends and family actually hate this about me. I will count all money, 5 cents even. Any piece of money I save because in the near future I'll need it to pay for those 3 things.

I don't get paid haircuts, buy clothes, go out, buy electronics, buy video games, use taxis.
I spend no more than $10 a month. I have no reason to spend more, I live at home. Even the $10 is occasional , $10 last in July, and $8 in November.

:/ I don't know

[Z-Spark]

no offense but you sound like a hobo

[Naydyonov]

Why?

[Z-Spark]

you dont do anything for yourself wheres the fun

[Naydyonov]

I do other stuff for myself. I enjoy some movies and I like to think. I do enjoy working otherwise so that's also something I like to do.

[Anonymous]

I think money is important, but it's not like all women date someone just for their money.

But yeah, there are women like that out there. They disgust me really.

[Z-Spark]

i wrote this take based on what i observe in real life and so far all guys literally all say that if you dont pay you dont get anything, even those who claim they do not want money still want the experience money can buy, the hidden fees no one pays attention to.

[Opinion Owner]

I have a boyfriend myself and what I'm about to say is really just my own experience.

I HATE it when he buys me presents or pays something for me. I know it's nice and all that, but it gives me the feeling that I can't do anything in life without him standing next to me.
He knows that I dislike it, but he still does it sometimes, so we talked about it and now we pay for both of us. Do we want to go to the movies? Fine, but this time I pay, he can pay the next time.
It's only the birthday present that I really can't argue about.

[fabulouspancakes]

So let me get this straight...
It's bad that women only want a guy who is financially stable enough to have his own place and a car and can afford to have some fun once in a while, but it's okay that you only want a hot woman?

[Z-Spark]

Hot woman? Who doesn't want that of course i do, but i also dont care if she has a place, if she has a car or if she has money , so you're saying that in exchange for looking good i must pay you and take care of you, but you also want to have a career and make your own money and be equal to me mhmmmm , I don't know your theory is kinda flawed, you want to be taken care of but you still want equality.

[fabulouspancakes]

I'm not talking about equality right now, I'm talking about supposed "shallowness." Nobody said a woman can't make her own money or needs to be taken care of, but how is it worse for a woman to find financial stability attractive in a man than for a man to find physical beauty attractive in a woman? Neither is wrong in an absolute sense, both are assets that make the relationship easier and more enjoyable, and are therefore attractive in a potential partner.

[Z-Spark]

so you're saying that women only want men with money because men only want hot women... how is different from what i said?

[fabulouspancakes]

Not "because" men want hot women. Just because it is attractive, like a woman's looks are attractive to you.

[Z-Spark]

I will make this clear.
to 99% looks are a must to have, he must find you attractive to date you no way around it, so you're saying that just like men 99% of women want men with money only? right? i mean you're saying men find looks attractive just like women find money attractive... well iam telling you and being 100% honest that i can't date a girl iam not attracted to physically which means you won't date a guy who has no money right?

[fabulouspancakes]

I think you're missing my point. No, I don't think women are equally as hung up on money as men are on looks. We tend to take into account a variety of factors INCLUDING, but not limited to, financial stability. Looks, personality, intellect, etc. also count for a lot. We don't expect to get it all, but yes, a man who has none of those factors going for him is going to struggle to date just as an ugly woman struggles to date.
My point is that you seem resentful of women for not wanting to date flat broke guys, but you really can't claim any kind of moral high ground in this situation since you're just as shallow.

[Margillard]

Men aren't marrying anymore. You girls are big now and can earn your own money. Swallow the Red Pill and the world will become clear to see.
www.foxnews.com/.../why-men-wont-marry.html

[Anonymous]

Okay, so now what?
1) work hard, get a job, get yourself some money
2) get your own place, and kit it out tastefully
3) get action

There's your plan for getting laid. And it also has the nice side benefit that encourages guys to be productive members of society in order to make the money that will help them get laid by the chicks they want. So win-win-win! And the march of societal progress continues!

[Z-Spark]

we all have to keep working otherwise we won't have a society that goes without saying, its not bad to be ambitions and have goals and making money is indeed a good way to get women, if you're looking for fun a car or a flat will help you get that, if you're looking for something real and long term... well money will help you get that as well simply because you will look independent and self suffeicent to these women, you dont have to be rich but you do have to have enough money to give her an interesting date once in a while, drive her around, buy some drinks and food, go eat on the beach or something, sounds cheap but alcohol is not cheap neither is gas, these hidden fees are usually left outside of the equation for some reason.

[Opinion Owner]

Well, just put them back in the equation then! You'll make better decisions that way. But yeah--use the motivation of getting with hotter and better women to help propel you to achieve more in your career and with other personal goals. If you do that you're definitely on the right track.

[Z-Spark]

in all honesty women are nice to me, they compliment me often on my looks and height, on my style as well and seem to like me a lot, i had the opportunity to date some girls who have shown interest in me and i know wanna date me and they have stated it before to my friends, thing is i dont find these girls attractive and its hard to date someone you're not attracted to... i do get a lot of attention from hot girls i talked to some and tried getting with some, and while they do talk to me and never rejected my approaches i get the feeling that iam inadequate, iam lacking something and that something is money, iam sure they will love my personality and they already like my looks but i lack a core element, so right now my goal is to work harder, make more money and graduate from college and then start taking dating seriously.

[Opinion Owner]

Well, I'd say I agree with your approach about 90% of the way. You're staying focused on doing well in college, getting good grades, setting yourself up for a good job and career afterwards, and generally being a better man. And for all that I applaud you. BUT, I do think you should ALSO work on your dating game and your feelings of (in) adequacy. For starters, don't focus at all on girls you aren't attracted to. For the girls you DO find hot, keep starting conversations, getting numbers, having fun, going on dates, and work on getting with them. You'll be surprised how profoundly the success you have getting with girls you find attractive is a HUGE boost to you and will spill over into other areas of your life. It'd DEFINITELY not too early to start. Especially if the girls are already showing you some attention and attraction. Just as with your career, the work you put in now will come back to reward you 10x down the stretch!

[Z-Spark]

I have to do well i have no other choice if i dont i won't get a good job and fix my financial situation, people who have money think "money is nothing look i can get dates without spending it" yes true they can because they dont have to think about money and they spend it without realising that they are actually spending money, something i can't afford to do.

iam not looking for anything serious right now cause i figured that girls are costly, at least the good ones are and i need to do some other things before getting serious about dating.

[Opinion Owner]

Well, if you can attract them with your personality and get them to agree to go on dates with you, you're making progress.

[Z-Spark]

that i can do but at some point you will want more and more means dates, means going out, and other stuff that i won't be able to do so its better to just have fun for the time being and when iam in good shape financially i can start dating seriously.

[Anonymous]

That's an interesting way to look at it. In the end it still means that the man must have money so the woman can drain his bank account by getting what money can give.

[Z-Spark]

in short, yes... money is what gets you girls, the hidden fees of food, alcohol, car, gas and a flat are often ignored and taken for granted... but a car doesn't run without gas why dont people mention how he paid 50$ to fill his tank and go on a date? and why dont they mention how he bought a bottle of jack daniels for 30$ and 20$ worth of sushi? a lot of hidden fees are left out for some reason... i have a friend who is a player, not particularly hot but has money , a nice car and the time to go out and have fun and he told me flat out " if you dont spend money you won't get laid, you need to buy girls food and drinks to get laid, nothing is free" sadly he is right, nothing is free , buy women stuff, no matter what and you get laid, dont and you won't.

[Browneye57]

Of course they do - it's called 'provisioning'. They want to be assured that you can support their lifestyle and that of their many offspring.

Guys need three things to make it with the ladies...
1. Looks
2. Money
3. Confidence. Irrational confidence.

You can get by with any two of these but all three is the most successful. So gut busy and attain as much of all three as you possibly can. :)

[Browneye57]

Oh, and if a guy falls on hard times, becomes injured or sick, or loses his job - if it isn't corrected very quickly they'll cheat or bail. And you'll hear them say "I deserve to be haaaappppyyyy". And even their friends and relatives will tell them they 'deserve to be haaaapppyyy'. LOL

No, guys love idealistically. Girls love opportunistically. The burden of performance is on the man, if he fails she bails. And she may even bail if he does - they'll just decide one day they're bored and bail or cheat. Google this: hypergamy That's what women are - it's called solipsism. Or in layman terms, 'naval-gazers'. :)

[Anonymous]

Ouch, that moment when you're all of those things, so you realize you are unnatractive since I dont have good guys beating down my door xD lmao ughhh

What if guys want to sleep with you right off the bat if they do like you, but get mad and dont talk to you if you dont?

Not societally attractive? appreciate the honesty

[MaiNameIsSunshine]

Fun fact: men also like money
I don't understand why some guys are so obsessed with the idea that women are totally materialistic. Y'all need a better hobby.

[Z-Spark]

they do, i do like money i need money in everyday life and when iam short on money life becomes harder... however and here's the core difference in the way we like money :
as a man i dont care if you have money or not, as a woman how much money i make and how successful i am in my career is sometimes the deciding factor of whether you wanna date me or not.