The man will work the rest of his like to make money. Will put his money towards a house Bills Food Clothes Cars Toys Babies Dates and might I remind you were paying dinner for a girl who we might never see again despite all this on our shoulders and whats on her shoulders? Etc
The women Her temporary flat before joining the husband Some money sharing to help the man if she works and isnβt house bound. ... ... Welp im stumped. Dates would be great.
For me I say each pay their own way the first time so nobody feels obligated or used. Then I only pay my own way until she pays for me first to show that she isn't the very common selfish kind of woman that thinks of a man as an ATM. then we'll take turns or each pays for each other now and then. But until she shows she isn't one of the common greedy selfish ones then I won't pay for her. If she tells me she thinks I should pay because I am a man, that would be the last time I see her.
I don't mind paying for both of us, but I guess most men would feel uncomfortable with that. So I'd say we split unless he wants to pay for both of us. I don't mind anything.
Yeah some men really like to pay by themselves. I'm fine with that as well but not letting me pay at all for once, or making a big scene out of a situation when I had to pay, it's too much.
Lol u know u want a man to pay for you what happened to Cinderella story happily ever after like we all didn't want to be a king and queen and have that type of love lool
Back in my day (oh, no, I finally said it! Iβm offially old 😱) the guy always paid - it was expected. Now that I am back in the dating world I see a mix of expectations from the girls I have dated. Some subscribe to the βold rulesβ while others are happy to split things. It makes sense to me that, if I invite you to do something, that Iβm planning to pay (and vice versa, though I do expect that). ... by the way the 50/50 has been alternating who pays.
If you ask them out you are obligated to pay but they have the right to pay half if they wish.
If one person has a higher income - I guess you mean much higher - then they also probably have more expensive tastes. This does not mean they have to pay all the time - see my first paragraph.
If you never ask the guy out or offer to pay for anything the guy will know youβre greedy and or just using him. Assuming heβs had some experience in my opinion
Some guys just never get laid and they give all their money to one woman they find. No seriously though. Some dudes themselves are so desperate that they become ATM booths.
Then you are a good person. To me dates are just fun and I'm kinda traditional about it. The quality you have of not wanting to take advantage is awesome and kind of rare. The man you marry will be very lucky.
Lucky? I'll make him the LUCKIEST man in earth!! I get a lot of hate from guys due to my sassy attitude but all I do is not choosing to give my heart out to everyone!
My boyfriend paid for the first few dates, he didn't want me to pay, though I always brought enough money to pay for myself. He eventually let me pay for part of our third date but even now, he still likes to get the bill and I sometimes slide a tenner into his pocket (which sometimes covers most of the bill or just my portion), which he is reluctant to accept but it's because I feel bad. But his monthly wage is probably more than double compared to mine!
One should only be paying for the items that they ordered. The best option. I can pick what I order so I can calculate the price beforehand. They should switch/take turns. One pays today, the other pays on the next date. What we are doing now. We pay in turns.
Both pays what they take. Then at the third date, you choose. Never pay for everything on the first date, because you never know if there will be a second date, or if the other just want you for free stuff. Second date, same reason. If someone is really interested in you for you, he/she can wait a few dates
Yeah definitely π this is the simple thing that doesn't get into many people's minds and I really hope none of them online are really as lunatic in real life.
The problem seems to be that "kids" are trying to rationalize this way too much. Paying for a date is not a point of honor. I don't care if a woman asks me out, or not. I'm going to insist on paying for the date, IF I accept to go. But I'm 33, not 17. I THINK, anything less is disrespectful to the woman, but again... I'm old school. You want boys to be men? Let them pay for a freaking date !!
And you miss the point entirely. MEN are now saying that " if women want equality, they SHOULD pay for a date if they ask the man out". Should. That's the operative word. Or, they "should" pay if a man asks them out, but the woman makes more money? So now you encourage men to expect this if they're financially unable to support a date. They should be fine about asking with no expectation of paying, because the girl knows they can't? Look, I don't have a problem with a girl asking me out, or insisting that SHE pay for the date IF she asked me out. What I DO have a problem with, are "men" who "assume" that just BECAUSE SHE asked you on a date, you can expect a free ride. It's NOT gentlemanly... it's disrespectful. What if a girl is being flirtatious and says "why don't you take me to lunch sometime", and the boy says "ok, I will... let's go tomorrow". Should he "expect" her to pay because she made a move to get together? My point is... I may be find with a girl paying under the right circumstances... but I will NEVER be ok thinking that "she should pay", if I've been out with her. And furthermore, I think guys who "assume that", are wimpy ass losers.
You're right. I find it hella rude to just sit on your ass and expect your partner to pay. Even for a woman who is financially independent I don't like the idea of expecting the guy to pay all the time. I know some dudes are pretty salty about it, that's why one shouldn't be dating salty people.
For me, a guy is good enough if he can afford a family, and I don't really think you need a lot of money for that if you're wise with your spending.
Lets be real. If I guy wants to have any success in dating, he will pay. Sure, you'll find the odd woman who offers to pay her half and means it. The rest who offer do so as a test. So fellas, if you want any kind of relationship, pay for the lady. Doesn't mean you have to like it. Just accept it.
I've had multiple second dates and relationships with girls who paid for themselves and some who fought to pay for me... lol. Can't say I entirely agree. In my life I've paid for a girl on the first date one time and it was the worst first date in my entire life lol. Swift punishment is good, because I never did it again and have only had positive experiences since.
Both should pay for their own half of the date, regardless of who asked whom out. That's only fair since it is almost always the guy who has to ask. If a woman has a problem with that, it's good for her to make it known early on so the guy can decide if she's the kind of person he even wants to waste any more time on.
I'm talking about early in the dating process, when many women feel they are entitled to have the man ask them out AND pay for the date. My point was that it shouldn't matter who asked the other person out; both should pay their share, regardless.
In an established relationship it doesn't matter so much.
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Ill make it simple.
The man will work the rest of his like to make money.
Will put his money towards a house
Bills
Food
Clothes
Cars
Toys
Babies
Dates and might I remind you were paying dinner for a girl who we might never see again despite all this on our shoulders and whats on her shoulders?
Etc
The women
Her temporary flat before joining the husband
Some money sharing to help the man if she works and isnβt house bound.
...
... Welp im stumped.
Dates would be great.
For me I say each pay their own way the first time so nobody feels obligated or used.
Then I only pay my own way until she pays for me first to show that she isn't the very common selfish kind of woman that thinks of a man as an ATM. then we'll take turns or each pays for each other now and then. But until she shows she isn't one of the common greedy selfish ones then I won't pay for her.
If she tells me she thinks I should pay because I am a man, that would be the last time I see her.
I don't mind paying for both of us, but I guess most men would feel uncomfortable with that. So I'd say we split unless he wants to pay for both of us. I don't mind anything.
What man would let you pay for the bill and why do you feel like you should pay just let us take care of you with certain thing's lol.
Yeah some men really like to pay by themselves. I'm fine with that as well but not letting me pay at all for once, or making a big scene out of a situation when I had to pay, it's too much.
I feel like both parties should bring their wallets expecting to pay for themselves, but whoever invites should offer to pay
Yeah no matter what one should be prepared to pay full. You never know when you need it
Lol u know u want a man to pay for you what happened to Cinderella story happily ever after like we all didn't want to be a king and queen and have that type of love lool
@Nathansixfootthree you seriously comparing Cinderella with real life? Go back to watching Disney cartoons and talk to us when you grow out of it.
^^exactly
Back in my day (oh, no, I finally said it! Iβm offially old 😱) the guy always paid - it was expected. Now that I am back in the dating world I see a mix of expectations from the girls I have dated. Some subscribe to the βold rulesβ while others are happy to split things. It makes sense to me that, if I invite you to do something, that Iβm planning to pay (and vice versa, though I do expect that). ... by the way the 50/50 has been alternating who pays.
Old is gold π pay however you like. You're alive so you belong in this age as well.
If you ask them out you are obligated to pay but they have the right to pay half if they wish.
If one person has a higher income - I guess you mean much higher - then they also probably have more expensive tastes. This does not mean they have to pay all the time - see my first paragraph.
If you never ask the guy out or offer to pay for anything the guy will know youβre greedy and or just using him. Assuming heβs had some experience in my opinion
Some guys just never get laid and they give all their money to one woman they find. No seriously though. Some dudes themselves are so desperate that they become ATM booths.
Who's going on a date in the first place. I pay for myself when I go with friends.
I m waiting (arranged marriage)
I don't know why the guys who can't pay make girlfriends.
First, learn to earn, at least, for feeding yourself.
And then do whatever you want.
I have decided that the woman should pay the first date in regards to online dating.
That is actually what taking a stance looks like.
It is not saying whatever floats a persons boat and whatever makes them feel safe and secure and lets them be true to themselves...
Those guys are pussies!!!
Um what
Iβm over this debate. Honestly it doesnβt matter. If he wants to pay I let him, if he doesnβt, Iβll pay for mine.
Itβs really not that hard.
Exactly!! It's nothing to stress about.
If he doesn't pay he doesn't pay that usually means he doesn't really want you just sex
Speak for yourself, troll.
Blacked his ass cause he's replying to everyone.
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I just pay and I open the car door for her too.
Whatever, I don't go on that many dates.
Classic! I'm sure plenty of women love it but I'd feel terrible if I do nothing haha
Then you are a good person.
To me dates are just fun and I'm kinda traditional about it.
The quality you have of not wanting to take advantage is awesome and kind of rare.
The man you marry will be very lucky.
Lucky? I'll make him the LUCKIEST man in earth!! I get a lot of hate from guys due to my sassy attitude but all I do is not choosing to give my heart out to everyone!
Good for you, you sound like a giving person who has good character.
My boyfriend paid for the first few dates, he didn't want me to pay, though I always brought enough money to pay for myself. He eventually let me pay for part of our third date but even now, he still likes to get the bill and I sometimes slide a tenner into his pocket (which sometimes covers most of the bill or just my portion), which he is reluctant to accept but it's because I feel bad. But his monthly wage is probably more than double compared to mine!
One should only be paying for the items that they ordered.
The best option. I can pick what I order so I can calculate the price beforehand.
They should switch/take turns. One pays today, the other pays on the next date.
What we are doing now. We pay in turns.
Both pays what they take. Then at the third date, you choose.
Never pay for everything on the first date, because you never know if there will be a second date, or if the other just want you for free stuff.
Second date, same reason. If someone is really interested in you for you, he/she can wait a few dates
I think people should decide what works out for them in a dating or relationship dynamic. Everyone is different.
Exactly.
Wow.
Simple answer: the people going on the date should discuss it and do what works for them.
Yeah definitely π this is the simple thing that doesn't get into many people's minds and I really hope none of them online are really as lunatic in real life.
The problem seems to be that "kids" are trying to rationalize this way too much. Paying for a date is not a point of honor. I don't care if a woman asks me out, or not. I'm going to insist on paying for the date, IF I accept to go. But I'm 33, not 17. I THINK, anything less is disrespectful to the woman, but again... I'm old school. You want boys to be men? Let them pay for a freaking date !!
Time is changing and in the new generation, women are paying as well. π
And you miss the point entirely. MEN are now saying that " if women want equality, they SHOULD pay for a date if they ask the man out". Should. That's the operative word. Or, they "should" pay if a man asks them out, but the woman makes more money? So now you encourage men to expect this if they're financially unable to support a date. They should be fine about asking with no expectation of paying, because the girl knows they can't? Look, I don't have a problem with a girl asking me out, or insisting that SHE pay for the date IF she asked me out. What I DO have a problem with, are "men" who "assume" that just BECAUSE SHE asked you on a date, you can expect a free ride. It's NOT gentlemanly... it's disrespectful. What if a girl is being flirtatious and says "why don't you take me to lunch sometime", and the boy says "ok, I will... let's go tomorrow". Should he "expect" her to pay because she made a move to get together? My point is... I may be find with a girl paying under the right circumstances... but I will NEVER be ok thinking that "she should pay", if I've been out with her. And furthermore, I think guys who "assume that", are wimpy ass losers.
You're right. I find it hella rude to just sit on your ass and expect your partner to pay. Even for a woman who is financially independent I don't like the idea of expecting the guy to pay all the time. I know some dudes are pretty salty about it, that's why one shouldn't be dating salty people.
For me, a guy is good enough if he can afford a family, and I don't really think you need a lot of money for that if you're wise with your spending.
Lets be real. If I guy wants to have any success in dating, he will pay. Sure, you'll find the odd woman who offers to pay her half and means it. The rest who offer do so as a test. So fellas, if you want any kind of relationship, pay for the lady. Doesn't mean you have to like it. Just accept it.
Ahaha yes those testing women. I think getting rejected by them is dodging a bullet TBH
I've had multiple second dates and relationships with girls who paid for themselves and some who fought to pay for me... lol. Can't say I entirely agree. In my life I've paid for a girl on the first date one time and it was the worst first date in my entire life lol. Swift punishment is good, because I never did it again and have only had positive experiences since.
Both should pay for their own half of the date, regardless of who asked whom out. That's only fair since it is almost always the guy who has to ask. If a woman has a problem with that, it's good for her to make it known early on so the guy can decide if she's the kind of person he even wants to waste any more time on.
Like I said, I don't believe that one single rule applies to everyone.
Like I said, both should pay for their own half of the date.
So what would you do if you're taking your broke/poor girlfriend to a highly lavish place (let's supposed you are filthy rich)?
I'm talking about early in the dating process, when many women feel they are entitled to have the man ask them out AND pay for the date. My point was that it shouldn't matter who asked the other person out; both should pay their share, regardless.
In an established relationship it doesn't matter so much.
Both. Take turns. If I ever meet a girl who expects and keeps on taking... SEE YUH
If I was a guy I wouldn't like a girl who expects me to pay either, unless she's really poor or something.
I see lots of opinions and excuses from men/boys about who should pay the bill.
The man should want to pay the bill, regardless of who asked who out.
Your own sense of dignity should tell you that, lots of boys on here need to grow a pair and man up
Letting the woman pay or splitting the bill, shows no class