Why girls should be more grateful with guys

[aspiegirl_]

Just so you know, this is only my opinion and I don't mean to offend anyone, if you're one of those extreme feminists I don't recommend you to read this. Yes, I'm a girl. So... Yeah, keep reading if you want.
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I've noticed (and I'm sure you did too) many girls complaining about guys not being romantic, for being picky, for cheating, for ignoring messages/calls, for treating girls like of their bro's, etc.

Honestly, I don't understand why you complain a lot about all those things if it's your fault (calm down, chamaca or I'll hit you with a chancla 🙄👐🏼).

Let's analyse each point:

1. Guys not being romantic

Okay definitely this is the one that I REALLY hate. Why do you think guys aren't that romantic anymore? Just think about it, I bet you have no answers (if you're a girl) or if you do, one of them might be "Because they are cold, they don't love us, the have this macho behaviour" etc. Well, nah, you're (kinda) wrong. Guys know the real answer, and again, I'm a girl, but most of my friends are guys so I understand a bit more about the way they think. So the reason why guys "aren't" that romantic anymore is because many girls tend to act like divas when a guy is trying to flirt or trying his best to make you fall in love with him. I have this female friend, let's call her Spoon. Spoon is beautiful, «she got a body that'll make a preacher say, "Goddamn!"» (not really, but she's beautiful and with a nice personality if she likes you). Many guys like her, she knows it and she likes that attention, but one day, one of those guys wanted to surprise her with flowers, he (knife) bought a bouquet and gave them to her, I instantly thought "That's so sweet of him!". Knife was a discreet handsome guy, he wasn't like a Greek God but he was "average" and with such a beautiful personality. The point here is that once he left, she gave me the flowers and said «Ugh. Thanks but not thanks. I like flowers but not when they give them to me, this is too cheesy, ewww! I think I'm gonna die of diabetes because of the amount of sweetness, yuck». Obviously that knife found out what Spoon did, it hurt his feelings. UGHHHHH!!! AND YET YOU STILL WONDERING WHY THEY'RE NOT ROMANTIC?! OH, PLEASE! Of course they won't be romantic if you keep discouraging them, they're trying to make an effort to win your heart, some of them spend hours thinking what to buy or what to do to make you smile even if it's for 2 seconds. But if you reject them in that way, if you humiliate them, if you make that horrible face that means "I don't like this 😬" when they give you flowers, letters, or whatever, of course they will notice it and hence the first thing they'll think is "She doesn't like flowers, nor chocolates, nor letters, not even the playlist I made for her so... What can I do? I'm trying to do this the right way but it's not working. Girls do always the same, I won't do this again, I'm just wasting my time, and spending lots of money". That's when guys stop being romantic. Because we make them act that way. Spoon used to say «If he wants to be nice, he can give me gummy bears instead of flowers and I'll marry him»... Really? 😒 That's not romantic at all. I know there are many Spoons like my Spoon friend.

Stop being fucking dramatic and let them try their best

2. Guys being picky

We all have our preferences. Girls are picky too and more than them so I don't know why you complain about this if you do the same.

3. Cheating

Okay so, why would you cheat on your boyfriend? Because he doesn't give you what you want or what you think you deserve. Right? Well, that's the same. Many guys tend to be more sexual than girls, and that's true, guys tend to cheat if they don't have sex. If you keep making excuses or if you keep saying no when he asks you to have sex, of course he'll get sick of it at some point. Sex is like something you need to "stay alive", it's like the air we breathe. When you're thirsty of course you want to drink water in order to feel well, right? That's how sex works too. It's necessary. So if they get sick of your no's and «Not today, I have a headache» of course they will try to get it from someone else. And you do the same, if you don't get attention from your guy, you will get tired and you will find someone who can do what he doesn't. Of course, that doesn't mean guys have to force you to have sex.

3. Ignoring

Come on. Space is necessary. If you want a relationship to work, space is the key. Guys need some time to themselves, they need time to be guys, and socialise with they friends. You do the same, you spend time with your friends so why can't they do the same? Just because they don't text you back quickly, doesn't mean they are cheating on you, or that they don't like you. They could be busy with their parents and you're just making a huge drama because he read your message and didn't reply. Come on. Let him breathe!!!

4. You're one of his bro's: this is 100% your fault if you're a girl because many girls aren't that feminine anymore. Keep cursing all the time, and behaving like guys, so of course if you behave this way in front of them, they might think "I couldn't introduce her to my parents... That's not good"

5. Not being a gentleman

Guys know we can do many things by ourselves. But they just want to make things easier. They can see us, they know we have hands, and arms. They know it! But if they open the door for us please don't say that stupid "What are you doing? I can do it myself, move!"they are just giving us that attention that many of us like. But if you react horribly about it, of course they'll stop doing it.

So you should be more grateful because they do try their best to make you feel like a princess, they even ask to other girls, to their mums, to their friends what to do to keep things perfect. Guys have feelings too. They will be cold if girls keep acting this way. So calm down, respect and be grateful.

[YHL6965]

I think many girls have become more entitled lately, like it's never enough for them even if we try our best so guys noticed that and just stopped giving a damn about many things. Then, you end up with many women in their 30s wondering why they have not found a great guy yet. Well, maybe if these women observed, noticed and appreciated all these efforts, maybe they would have noticed these great guys.

But hey, in the end, it's natural selection. If you want to be entitled and ungrateful, your genes will be deleted from humanity because nobody will want to date you or you will only get "bottom tier guys".

Anyway, enough rambling, great take! It's nice to see women that bother to empathize with us guys, who try to see things from our perspective, who try to understand us instead of judging us. Really, thank you, it was heart-warming to read!

[aspiegirl_]

I agree! Haha
It's just that guys have feelings too, y'know? And respect is important. Just because a girl doesn't like the guy who is trying to flirt with her doesn't mean she can treat him in such a horrible way. There's a fine line between being honest and being disrespectful

[YHL6965]

Honestly, I can't praise your answer enough. Thank you for being considerate and seeing us guys as human beings who have feelings too! It's really nice to know there are women like you out there!

[aspiegirl_]

Aw, thanks!!! Means a lot! 💛💛💛💛

[YHL6965]

You are very welcome!

[kim45456]

So you are supporting man hoes? And what about incels. 17 % of the male Population is virgin

[YHL6965]

@kim45456 Where do I support man hoes? What about incels? I don't talk about either of these so what are you trying to do?

[kim45456]

She justifies cheating and blaming women for being too masculine. Also what is wrong being single in your 30s as a woman while nobody say any shit to men in their 30s

[kim45456]

Who are single

[YHL6965]

@kim45456 She is just saying that things don't come out of nowhere, that there are reasons behind the way guys act and there are consequences to your acts. In no way does that make cheating okay or does it say that being masculine is not okay. It just says that cheating can have reasons and being masculine can have consequences.

Well, we hear a lot about some women wondering why they have not found any good guy to settle with in their 30s. We rarely hear guys about that.

[kim45456]

Just leave instead of cheating. Cheating has never ever a reason. Dont be a hoe, and leave and also if you dont like masculine women, why are you dating them. She seriously think it is ok to blame women if their boyfriend not introduce them to their parents. Wtf does that even mean. You either accept her or date a more feminine woman instead of being dick head. She is only a female cuck seeking for male attention

[YHL6965]

@kim45456 I agree with you and neither the poster nor I said that it was okay to cheat. Well, about being masculine, that precisely the point she is making : don't be surprised if he does not date you because you act vulgarly.

I don't think she is a female cuck. She made valid points, she is empathizing with men while showing how entitled some women can be.

[kim45456]

You dont get with the point about masculine women. Men also cures and use swear words and these are not masculine az all. And masculine women should not change, they should find a guy who likes a masculine women. She suggests women to change instead of finding a guy who like a masculine girl

[YHL6965]

@kim45456 No, she just says that it's not a surprise if a guy does not see them as relationship material. It's more "acceptable" and common for men to curse, that's it.

[kim45456]

Since when it is commone for gentlemans to curse. If you want a lady, then be a gentleman. And why tf should a woman change herself. She can find someone who likes her the way she is. Only because your non existent masculinity is treated by such women, does not mean it is her fault

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Also she can address it to girls who aren't grateful about guys. Are you one tho? If no then you don't have to react and make assumptions.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Oh that reply was meant to be posted at my comment

[YHL6965]

@kim45456 She explained above why gentlemen are more rare. Besides, if you want a gentleman, most of the time you have be a proper lady. I never said that masculine women have to change and neither did the poster. It's just that it's not a surprised if some guys reject you because of that.

Please, stop putting words in our mouths and be precise in your arguments. You assume a lot of things about what both the poster and me think, and I'm tired of having to debunk them every time. Arguments are not about proving the other wrong, winning or anything like that, it's about finding a common ground. So far, I have agreed with a lot of things you said, I am not an adversary nor an enemy.

[kim45456]

I dont like how you all only blame the women and it is ok if some guys dont like masculine women but she is blaming women for being masculine, that means she except women to change and to be more feminine.

[YHL6965]

@kim45456 Okay so, apparently, you have not read or understood my last paragraph. I don't have time to dismantle all of these strawmen. I have told you many times that she is just explaining the reasons behind guys' reactions and behaviors. Both men and women have responsibilities in this. Anyway, I'm done with you because the way you argue is just annoying at this point.

[kim45456]

Read the point 4. I dont understand why you are defending her so much when she is saying that it is girl's fault because girls are not feminine anymore.

[YHL6965]

@kim45456 She also wrote "calm down, chamaca or I'll hit you with a chancla ". Did she mean that literally? Probably not. I think you are taking her writing style too literally. It's rarely 100% someone's fault, responsibility is almost always shared to some degree.

[kim45456]

Just a question: how many girls have you seen who disrespected romantic guys like she has described? I personally have not ever seen a girl saying that it is cheesy to buy flowers or whatever. It is minority. You guys should stop dating trash girls. That is like blaming all men for being a fuckboy, asshole or whatever although she is the one who date trash guys instead of nice guys. And by the way the phrase "calm down chamaca" is ironic, while the point 4 is not.

[YHL6965]

@kim45456 Yes, I agree with you on that but it still explains why men behave the way they do. Look, feminists are also a minority but they managed to mess up a lot of things for both men and women. I know that they are a minority but the problem is that it tends to be amplified, men and women often hear about bad stories with the opposite sex and it can sort of mess with their perspective and I think that's a whole other topic, particularly how social media amplifies all of that.

I don't think it was ironic, I just think it was an exaggeration as a comical effect.

[kim45456]

It explains why SOME men behave the way they do. I still know many romantic guys who are not bothered by feminists and treat their gf/wife good and vica versa. I dont understand why you should stop caring for your girlfriend only because of some feminazis

[YHL6965]

@kim45456 Of course guys in relationships won't change over other girls. They already love someone that loves them too so they won't be affected by other women. However, it's another story for guys who date.

Feminists and all these ungrateful girls bother me, but that does not prevent me from treating good women well because these good women are usually grateful. Of course we won't treat good women badly. The point of this take is to say that, if a guy reacts a certain way, maybe you have some responsibility as a woman and it's not all his fault.

[backinblack22]

I’ve met women in their 30s who have doubled down on the entitlement unfortunately.

[kim45456]

@backinblack22 i have met shitty men in their 30s. So what now? Assholes always exist and they would not change themself just because they get older

[YHL6965]

@backinblack22 Well, let natural selection do its thing like it always has.

[Truthatanycost]

I'm not so sure about natural selection of genes, given the fact that psychopaths, killers, bums and losers are having plenty of kids. If anything, it's probably the opposite. Those that should be reproducing are choosing not to.

[YHL6965]

@Truthatanycost By that I mean that, if your standards are ridiculous and you don't make yourself appealing, you are less likely to have mates and your genes are more likely to be erased from the human gene pool. Natural selection.

[Screenwriter]

@kim45456 Men have their highest muscle to mass ratio at age 39, so look great and are leanest, but women have fewest eggs by that age, so aren't the best baby makers at that age. So the tables are turned... Men also seem to choose women who are generally four years younger than themselves... There are biological issues. Men don't have less healthy sperm until they're past 45 and they create SO much sperm, the best sperm still are favored...

[Daniel3035]

I can't wait till this ones wiped from the gene pool. A typical response from them is butting in something that's nothing to do with them and then try to make excuses or play down your valid point.

[The6ix]

YES!

[roland77]

@kim45456 You never met a decent man. And I guess you didn't pass math or were sleeping when percentage calculation was the topic. Small example: You dated 10 males being ~30 years old. The whole world population is around 8 billion (maybe 9, doesn't matter much), half male, half female (not exactly), and about ~1/2 of them are adult. So you have 8/2/2=2 billion men. Now reduce a little further and you have the total mass of males being dateable for you. Now do you get the picture?

[kymberz]

hang on - i just started reading but what is chamaca and chancla? i've never heard or seen those words but you delivered them just fine gurl - bahahahah! i got the point! now back to finish reading and then i'll leave another comment. i'm liking it so far tho!

[kymberz]

OMG - yer killing me here! i love the way you write. still haven't finished but man can you make a point!

[kymberz]

ok spoon, knife, gummy bears and a preacher saying god-damn --- is this a joke? like one of those ones where they start with "so 3 guys go in a bar... blah-blah-blah"? cuz i only finished part 1 and i am howling like an idiot - you write really - awesomely? ya... so far at least!

[kymberz]

OH MY GOODNESS - you nailed it to the floor!!! congratulations! calm down, respect and be grateful - dang gurl you just wrote a song! and i love it!

[aspiegirl_]

HAHAHAHA, my bad! I'm sorry. I'm a Latina and sometimes I feel like a have to let my Latina personality to flow! Haha. Okay, so: chamaca means "girl" but like a "guuuurl". And chancla is a latina weapon (literally, haha). Chancla means flip flop. When a Latina mum is angry she will run after with her hand in the air and holding her chancla, ready to attack so you learn how to behave 😂, haha. I love being Latina.

I really appreciate your comments!!! I really do! I love writing and this is the first time I write something in English, I mean, it is not my mother tongue but I tried, haha.

About the preacher saying goddamn, nah. That's not a joke, haha.

Thank you. Massive thanks to for your comment, means a lot! ❤️. I was just trying to let guys know that some of us still like those things and not all of us react negatively to his cute actions. At least I do value their efforts ❤️

[aspiegirl_]

I'm following ya!

[kymberz]

gurl - i'm following you! you sound like my friend Monica but she's Mexican-Korean and she was a hoot! and i am so freaking proud of what you wrote! and you're not even writing in your mother tongue? it's not easy to be THAT funny in a second language - you have a gift! and the way you tell a story - i was with you the whole way. you are an excellent writer! and again - thank you for sharing your opinion. because i didn't just find it sarcastically funny - it was well-thought out and delivered beautifully! so kudos! and i couldn't agree with you more!

[aspiegirl_]

Hahaha, I'm 100% Mexican!

Thank you for your words, I'm blushing 🙈💛. It does mean a lot since I love writing. I was trying to write a book, hahaha. But I don't know

[kymberz]

oh please do write a book - send it to me and i'll edit for you - we could make millions - bahahahah! and you are Mexican? wow. see i knew you reminded me of Monica! she was sassy and sweet like you! and you are so welcome. please write more posts - i think your writing is fantastic and i like what you say!

[aspiegirl_]

Are you an editor? 😱

And yes! Of course que por supuesto that I'm Mexican, hahaha. Thank you for the compliment!

[aspiegirl_]

I'm planning my next myTake

[ShyBoy05]

1. Guys not being romantic.

SPOT ON!

I used to do scenes from romantic comedies.
When I wanted a girl and it felt right to do it, I would.

I have done some of the scenes like:
10 things I hate about you (singing with a band for her) and
love actually (cards scene).
Girls didn't wanted to date me after that.


2. Guys being picky.

RIGHT! I'm a nice guy! If I want to go out with a girl and
she doesn't want to, I have to respect her wish, right?
If not, people will say "You creep, leave her alone! no means no".

If it's the other way around, I'll have all the world saying
"you should be grateful, go out with her, she's nice"

Why do I have to go out when I don't want the girl and I don't get a chance with
the girl I want? The girl I want I don't get, the girl I get I don't want.

3. Cheating.

My last girlfriend cheated on me. We talked about sex and she said
she was fine without it. And that she would never have it with me.
2 weeks later, she called me crying one night. She had sex with one of
her class mates. I dumped her sluty ass right there and then.

4- Ignoring

Yes, we do have a life but sometimes they don't like
good morning or good night texts, even if it's only an emoji.
They take us for granted.

5. Not being a gentleman

Yes! We want to keep doing those things, I do them all the time.
Fortunately some girls don't react that bad about it.

But yes, girls should be more grateful and give nice guys a try.
We want to make you happy, not use you like all those pos of players do.

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Thank you for writing this post, you nailed it. Thanks!

If you don't mind helping me with something, I'd appreciate it.

If you had a good relationship with your crush, you tell everything to each other.
And you found out that she knows a guy who is friends with people who went
with you to the same highschool and they started fake rumors about you back then.

Would you tell your crush? I mean, let her know about the bad things from highschool
from your past before she, somehow, or by someone found out first?

It could be a lot of different things, but I don't want to ruin my relationship.
I don't want to look insecure, or weak, or kill attraction. I just want to let her know
so, when and if the time comes, she doesn't get surprised about stuff that never happened.
I lost a girl for that kind of stuff once. I don't want to lose her. I really don't.

Thanks for your time and for reading.

[aspiegirl_]

Thank you for your comment! And yeah, if I were you I would let her know about those fake rumours, and I would tell her something like "But that's it, they're only rumours. None of that happened and I wouldn't like to lose you for those silly rumours that other people made about me". I'm sure she'll understand ☺️

[ShyBoy05]

Thanks! Honestly, as a Girl, you would like that from a guy?

Anyway, Thanks for replying! Thanks!

[aspiegirl_]

Yeah, indeed. Honesty is important in a relationship, innit? Otherwise, how can we trust each other? I would appreciate it and I would tell him that there's nothing to worry about

[ShyBoy05]

You're so right. Thanks! I mean it! (:

[aspiegirl_]

Anytime ☺️

[Anonymous]

Okay miss pick me. Just to clear something up. I've always dated the good guys and the only reason our relationships ended was because my family moved often. I've been with my current boyfriend for 1.5 year. So let me clarify something.
No offense but you sound like the ugly friend that never really gets attention. Watches her friends get hit on and you ency the fact that they have so many options that they can actually reject people. When you have none what so ever. I do agree with some points you made.
"Some" women have became really bitchy and entitled. I dont understand that mentality and i never will.
Now to address your first point about being romantic.

When a man makes a romantic gesture. I appreciate it and will never do what your friend "spoon" did. However they have been cases when I've politely turned down guys and they still seem to push and push and push. Which becames frustrating and often results in me being abit bitchy. Also. When it comes to Romance. Guys are only romantic to the girls they care about. As a women. you're not going to go kiss a guy that has blatantly shown zero interest in you. If you're a guy. Dont go randomly do something overboard for a girl that never relaly shown an interest in you. Itll come across as odd. And you'll get the negative reaction. Everyman is romantic. But only to the right girl. Dont think that just because you're sweet to him he's going to walk through oceans for you. It all comes down to how he feels about you. What other women are doing won't affect how he treats you.

Sex.
Your secind point. Assuming that someone wouldn't cheat because you give them sex whenever they want it is naive. This is for girls and guys. People can have a partner that is constantly willing to please them sexually and still cheat. Why? Because sadly, people get bored. Sex is about thrill and excitement. I've met men who like a challenge. Whose girlfriends intentionally hold off for afew days to build them up. And that gets them off. Men whove told me that they lose interest if a girl is too submissive. And of course the latter. Honey. You are sooo silly if you think thats how people work. You could give your boyfriend sex everyday. And he could turn around and fuck "spoon" why? Because she's different. A new thrill. Challenging. she's got sas. Etc. It can even be emotional. Thats jot how that works lol.

3. ignoring

I do agree with you on that. Being overly clingy can be suffocating. And usually people that are that way are extremely insecure and have no trust for their partners. With that being said. If your boyfriend goes out with his friends and doesn't contact you till 12pm the next day. How woukd you feel. Communicate is everything in a relationship. If you love your partner enough. Youd send them a simple message such as. " going to... with the boys. Might be out late. Will text you tomorrow. Goodnight babe". Boom simple. If he /she can't have simple lines of communication open. The relationship won't last.

[Opinion Owner]

And 4.
Being a gentleman. This is something that you either become for the right person or its in your nature. You clearly have some shitty female personality types around you if thats how they react to a man being a gentleman. I know guys who naturally display those attributes. Will open doors for me. Pull chairs for me. Regardless of our relationships and others who are just blah. Same with ladies. Some are classy and others aren't. You can't blame women for a man not having chivalry. Society shouldn't ulter your values.

I missed one

Being *picky*
This confirmed that you really might be in the lower food chain here. Its called having standards. you're not going to date everyone that asks you out. Why should a person not be allowed to be picky. How does "spoon" being picky affect you? If she dates a guy thag doesn't live up to her standards, she'll have to deal with the consequences not you. Girls and guys should generally be picky. Or selective. Maybe then theyll be less breakups because more people will actually be compatible.

I dont know what this post was about. But really... sucking up to guys won't get you anywhere. I do agree that some women are just disgraceful. But completely idealizing men and bashing women is low. And vice versa. Grow up.

[aspiegirl_]

I respect your opinion. But how can you tell if I'm that ugly and silly friend who does not get attention?
You should not talk about people that way if you don't even know them, you could hurt someone

[Opinion Owner]

Im a psychology major. All your examples are from the view of an outsider. Meaning, you mostlikely haven't been approached by men the same way your friends have and that is why you're feeling this way. You look at them. You watched spoon get those roses as you mentioned, you thought he was goodlooking. So you assumed she did as well. You wished that had happened to you because your reaction to it would've been different. Because youve never had something like that happen to you. So you felt jealous and you felt like spoon was an ungrateful person. For doing something like that. Tbh, it was cold. But she probably gets lots of things like that happening to her. Thats why she feels she can be as mean as she wants to. And you most likely dont.

[Opinion Owner]

Im French so typing in English is difficult. But you get my point. The biggest player, jerk or asshole on this planet. Will be sweet, loyal, romantic and a gentleman to the right women. If you aren't on the receiving end. you're probably not the women he wants.

[Opinion Owner]

If you're hurt by what a stranger says online. It also validates that you do have some selfesteem issues. Which once again confirms what i say. You wrote your opinion and i wrote mine.

[Opinion Owner]

And sorry to say OP. A guy will only be loyal if he wants to be. Same with women. I've seen the most sexual and beautiful women get cheated on. As the saying goes. You can't eat chocolate cake every day. Cheating comes down to the persons love, respect, morals and values towards their partner

[aspiegirl_]

Why would I be jealous if it happened last week and I've been in a relationship for a year now? Hahaha 😂
And you didn't hurt me, I said you could hurt someone, that's different. Neurotypicals 🤦🏻‍♀️

[Opinion Owner]

You sound very naive love. You will learn. Steph currys wife has been married for years. And she still mentioned that she feels bad that she doesn't get male attention. Humans need validation and admiration. Which is basically your point in this post. You think men aren't doing these things because of the lack of acknowledgement, validation and admiration from women. you're definitely the unattractive one. Especially the way you described spoons body and proceeded to say "just kidding". Take it from a girl that is in high demand. Its very different from the receiving end. Not that youd know. Stop blaming women for mens shitty characteristics. And women stop blaming men for your shitty characteristics. you're either a decent human being or not. Full stop.

[aspiegirl_]

Hahaha, alright granny. Have a good day 😂💛

[Opinion Owner]

Oh my correction. You said "not really" after complimenting her. Which is so much worse.

[Opinion Owner]

We're the same age. Im just more desirable so I've obviously had more experience. Goodluck. Pray your boyfriend isn't getting with spoon because she's sassy and a challenge. Cheerio

[danny__V]

I am a guy and I completely agree with you here. I hate to say it. And many guys won't admit it because they want their egos stroked. But everything you said is true. Im not a gentleman to all girls but i am to my girlfriend. I have cheated in the past and I do regret it. The reason not being my SO. Just because I wanted to have sex with someone different. I was immature. But OP, you are naive to some degree. Best of luck out here. Not everyguy will treat you right because you treat them right.

[kymberz]

Aspiegirl - that was a very good and respectful answer back!

[Rob19777]

I do agree with some points you made. "Some" women have became really bitchy and entitled. Oh like you bitchy. You're over here harrassing her for simply expressing how she feels giving her opinions on something. if you don't like it there's no need to bash her for it. Christ I hate fucking bullies like you

[Rob19777]

God you're just being a massive cunt at this point talking about the second point. Why the fuck would any guy in his right mind want to date or put up with someone as shitty as you for. My god a guy would have to be downright mentally insane to put up with your shit and your mindfucking childish bullshit. Do yourself and others a favor GROW THE FUCK UP BEFORE IT'S TO LATE

[Rob19777]

Being overly clingy can be suffocating. And usually people that are that way are extremely insecure and have no trust for their partners. AGAIN QUIT BEING A MASSIVE CUNT

[Rob19777]

Being a gentleman. This is something that you either become for the right person or its in your nature. You clearly have some shitty female personality types around you... Really? You sure about that because from what I been reading it sounds like you could learn to act more like a lady instead of a beast of nature. WOMAN UP START ACTING LIKE A REAL WOMAN AND NOT A CHILD GROW SOME OVARIES AND GROW A VAGINA AND ACT LIKE A REAL WOMAN

[Rob19777]

But completely idealizing men and bashing women is low. And vice versa. Grow up... How about you grow up and act like a REAL WOMAN. GROW A VAGINA and GROW A PAIR OF OVARIES AND ACT LIKE A REAL WOMAN NOT A CHILD FFS

[Rob19777]

However they have been cases when I've politely turned down guys and they still seem to push and push and push. Which becames frustrating and often results in me being abit bitchy. A bit bitchy? Seems like you're always 100% bitchy. You haven't said one nice thing to her throughout your whole opinion without attacking her. And for the life of me either your boyfriend is dumb as a bag of rocks for being with you or he's downright insane for being with your ass

[Rob19777]

Itll come across as odd. And you'll get the negative reaction. OMG again can you be anymore of a cold hearted cunt?

[Rob19777]

Because sadly, people get bored. NO YOU DUMB BITCH it's because people decide to whore themselves out and have no loyalty and don't know how to stay faithful anymore. But I wouldn't expect someone like you to grasp that concept

[Rob19777]

You could give your boyfriend sex everyday. And he could turn around and fuck "spoon" why? Because she's different. AGAIN NO YOU DUMB BITCH it's because people lack MORALS (something you clearly don't have) It's a matter of differeniating right from wrong. Knowing how to stay faithful and loyal. Please do the world and every guy and woman on this planet a favor and don't marry anyone you'll only end up making some poor bastard's life fucking miserable.

[Rob19777]

Thats jot how that works lol. NO THAT"S NOT HOW IT WORKS YOU DUMB BITCH it's called staying fucking faithful. If people are going to cheat they'll fucking cheat that's just how people are. But you're to fucking stupid to understand that aren't you

[Rob19777]

Same with ladies. Some are classy and others aren't... And you sure as hell AREN'T

[Rob19777]

This confirmed that you really might be in the lower food chain here... WHERE THE FUCK DO YOU GET OFF TALKING TO SOMEONE LIKE THAT YOU FUCKING COLDHEARTED CUNT JUST WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE GET THE FUCK OVER YOURSELF

[Rob19777]

Girls and guys should generally be picky. Or selective. YOU REALLY NEED TO GET YOUR EGO CHECKED LADY IF I CAN EVEN CALL YOU LADY BECAUSE CLEARLY YOU'RE NOT. DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND LEARN TO BE MORE HUMBLE AND APPRECIATE PEOPLE FOR WHO THEY ARE NOT WHAT THEY CAN DO FOR YOU OR OFFER FOR YOU. YOU HAVE A LOT TO LEARN ABOUT THE REAL WORLD AND ABOUT HAVING MORALS AND VALUES BECAUSE CLEARLY YOURS ARE DECAYED AND DECREPID. NO GUY IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD WANT TO VOLUNTARILY BE WITH SOMEONE LIKE YOU UNLESS HE WAS INSANE, DRUNK, HIGH ON DRUGS, OR FLAT OUT FUCKING STUPID

[Rob19777]

I do agree that some women are just disgraceful... OH LIKE YOU AND EVERYTHING YOU SAID ON HERE I COULDN'T AGREE MORE

[Rob19777]

Grow up... SAME TO YOU GROW UP AND START ACTING LIKE A REAL WOMAN. GROW A VAGINA AND A SET OF OVARIES AND START ACTING LIKE A REAL WOMAN SHOULD

[Rob19777]

Im a psychology major.. CHANGE MAJORS OR DROP OUT OF SCHOOL BECAUSE CLEARLY YOU SUCK IN THIS FIELD

[Rob19777]

NO IT CONFIRMS WHAT KIND OF CUNT YOU ARE

[Rob19777]

If you're hurt by what a stranger says online. It also validates that you do have some selfesteem issues. NO IT JUST CONFIRMS WHAT KIND OF COLD HEARTED CUNT YOU ARE THAT DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO TREAT PEOPLE WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT (WHICH I HAVEN'T GIVEN YOU BECAUSE YOU SURE AS HELL DON'T DESERVE ANY) LEARN TO TREAT OTHER PEOPLE THE WAY YOU WANT TO BE TREATED

[Rob19777]

Humans need validation and admiration.. NO YOU JUST NEED YOUR FUCKING EGO BOOSTED WHICH YOU SURE AS HELL WON'T GET FROM ME OR ANYONE ELSE WITH AN OUNCE OF BRAINS

[Rob19777]

Take it from a girl that is in high demand.. OMG GET OVER YOURSELF

[Rob19777]

Not that youd know... YOU DON'T EVEN FUCKING KNOW HER AND ALL YOU'RE DOING IS PROVING HER POINTS WITH YOUR BEHAVIOR

[Rob19777]

you're either a decent human being or not... AND YOU'RE CLEARLY NOT

[Rob19777]

Im just more desirable so I've obviously had more experience... OMG GET THE FUCK OVER YOURSELF WOULD YOU JESUS CHRIST

[Rob19777]

Im just more desirable so I've obviously had more experience... IN CASE YOU MISSED THE NEWSFLASH YOU'RE NOT GOD'S GIFT TO MEN IF ANYTHING YOU'RE GOD'S NIGHTMARE TO MEN

[Opinion Owner]

@Rob. I didn't read all that 🤣

[Opinion Owner]

But thanks for the effort.

[danny__V]

Anonymous. You made some valid points. Full stop. I would never want my sisters being doormats. Well said.

[Snickermarstwix]

Well most "romantic" men are just cringe. Why the hell you'll be romantic to someone you don't know? While when they know you well enough so they can be romantic. I don't believe women have romantic dream whith some stranger who may be a psychopath 🤷🏽‍♂️
By the way I didn't read your first point cause it's too damn long for no reason, go straight to the point please ;¬;
People are not so picky it's just we're 8 billions, why would I date you over someone else 🤷🏽‍♂️ sometimes it's not even just look but attitude and people are shy.

A guy won't cheat just because he doesn't have enough sex, if things were so simple people wouldn't be wondering why it happens, some people just enjoy the feeling of cheating 💁🏽‍♂️
Some people won't just admit they wish for an open relationship and there is many other reasons, each person has their own.
Sex isn't like breathing for everyone. You and your relatives being sex addict doesn't make everyone sex addict. (don't read it as a judgment, I don't know if you are sex addict).
However you got a poor view of men when it comes to sex.
Everyone need space, you can meet crazy people craving for attention in all gender, it really depends on you.
However the ghosting and let on view culture is a pretty insane one. It's not a nice thing to do but people keep on doing it, if you had time to see a message probably means you had time to respond unless it's a damn long one. But don't let people do wrong thing and give them an excuse cause encouraging a bad habit by giving it an excuse is, in my believe, not the best thing to do.
You don't have to be féminine to be desirable, it can probably help with most men but maybe she doesn't want most men.
What the hell is that 4th point? What a toxic one. If you have to lie to yourself to date random dudes how is that a nice thing?
Opening the door to a pretty girl is not being a gentleman, it's being a predator.
So you got : slaves - gentleman - predator.
Doing to much for the girl you want is being a slave, not doing too much but doing enough for the girl you want is being a predator.
In the word "gentleman" there is the word "gentle" so in order to be a gentleman you gotta be gentle to everyone so you can do even more for the one you care about which will make you think about "how can I do even more" and not "when will I have to open the door for her?"
Making you feel like a princes is being a slave not a gentleman.
Back in the days where you had to marry a woman in order to get laid ofc you had to make her feel like a princess now you can get laid whenever you want so the princess shit is just cringe.
At the very least you can make your girl feel like a princess but not a random chick who doesn't know you, what's next? You'll get yourself a white horse and armor and slay her boyfriend to get her heart?

I think I get the nice thing you wanted to say but don't encourage cringe people to feel like they're doing the right thing and it's never their fault 😩

[Snickermarstwix]

Now ofc some girls are too bitchy but they find their love too, they meet some bitchy male and we're happy for them.

[Rapidash]

I mean... this can go both ways and varies a lot with context. I also don’t understand how your post is about being grateful. For what? Cheating, being ignored, not being a gentleman and treating you like his pal? There are many things you should be grateful for in a relationship but I don’t think the points you made are that. Every point of yours just seems to show an incompatibility within a relationship, if something isn’t working get out of it... don’t pretend to be grateful when you’re not happy. Yes overall we generally need to be more grateful, but when your relationship is going downhill rapidly and you aren’t happy, being grateful for the tiny things without changing the big issue won’t fix anything. Find a person you can balance with!

I definitely agree with the title of the mytake though! Would turn it around though: 1. Be grateful when he tries to be cute and romantic (even if it’s cheesy and a bit off, he tried)! 2. Be grateful that he chose precisely you out of all the other people! 3. Be grateful for when he wants and tries to please you intimately as best as he can! Be grateful when he’s trying to learn! 4. Be grateful for all spontaneous messages asking you how you’re doing and making sure you’re alright! Be grateful for when he spends time with you instead of hanging out with his mates! 5. Be grateful for the fact that he sees you as a close friend and feels comfortable around you! 6. Be grateful when he cares for you and cares to make your life just that bit easier because he can!

[VIVANT]

Nailed it

[AimeeEllenn]

This! ^^

[roland77]

Did she encourage cheating? Nope.

[Rapidash]

@roland77 She might not be encouraging it but she’s normalizing it. Nobody should feel like they have to provide sex to their partner with a fear of losing them via cheating if they don’t (if this has been agreed or is found out gradually). Are you suggesting that girls (or guys) should feel pressured to provide their partners with sex and then should be blamed for their partners dishonest cheating behavior? Because that’s what I felt the author of the mytake was suggesting. I know she said guys should not force their partners into sex but pressuring someone into it is the beginning of assault. Do not blame the victim in this situation!

[roland77]

@Rapidash You might loose your boyfriend when he has a high sex-drive. He misses it to much to be intimate with a woman, vaginal, oral or even anal (if you both are into it). Because the one with the higher drive will turn frustrated in sex and may have already tried to talk about it.

Still I agree with the grateful part of your opinion, not that those with high sex-drive should "hold it back" or so. That is why I'm happy I found a woman who has same level as I.

[roland77]

And yes, I'm against cheating. It is the worst thing to do to your partner, especially cheating in body, fucking an other male.

[MagiAlphaOne]

Why? Because GOOD MEN a scarce and women have taken notice.

My Daughter complains that all the good Men are taken. And no Boyfriend! She has a lot of company.

Yes, they should be grateful to have a Good Man.

Ladies, have you observed an attitude of indifference by Men towards women? How about Men taking a "take it or leave it attitude"?

Men are living in a time of Male Hatred. How many of your Girlfriends decry "Toxic Masculinity"? And did you speak up in defense of Men. When women speak up/complain, Men AND Women listen. Yet no one listens to Men.

Being Romantic. Why should a Man be romantic if women complains about it? Men aren't romantic and have little to no interest in it.

Not being a Gentleman. In today's culture, being a Gentleman is a one-way deal. He does for her and no expectations for her behavior. Why be a Gentleman if women aren't going to display Lady-like behaviors?

If I were a young Man today, I would embrace a pragmatic approach towards women. If a woman expresses bad behavior and attitudes, drop her immediately. Don't waste time and move on to the next woman... that is going to be grateful to have me!

Men, learn to say NO to women.

[kim45456]

So gentleman can be vulgar and curse? Because she thinks only men csn use swear words

[DJZest]

The dating game is just that - a game. If you obey the rules you might win or you might lose.

Man, being highly-intelligent, deeply personaly, and spiritual, longs for requires relationships that move along a set of higher values and principles, ones that hold eternally true. Contrary to this is the, indeed, animalistic behavior that is aimless sex.

Dating can be used as a tool to gauge a potential significant other, or as a manipulation device which as in making it out to be the socially acceptable pattern to get laid, when nothing significant from the end result.

The points mentioned in the Take are issues of maturity and character development, which, if for a man and woman who are somewhat advanced (individuals) and compatible with each other, will not be of any hindrance to furthering each other's progression on their paths to enlightenment, while having fun on the way.

Thus, good couple through grace learns much and quickly from each other and can achieve happiness on a level infinitely higher to what the pathetic display of supposed love in Hollywood movies attempts to conjure.

A negative outlook on life (surroundings in general) is rooted within one's own self; nothing externally should be able to, even minutely, stir your soul. Real love that is based on commitment, dedication, grace, understanding, forebearance, knowledge, awareness, etc. etc. remains unseen to the average person, but is no doubt lived-out to the fullest wherever it is established.

[Insightfull]

I'm not over-the-top romantic, but am learning the lesson that being romantic to any degree is a turnoff for women. I think that caring about feelings comes across as feminine? and it seems like wanting to be treated with respect is too much to ask.

It's difficult to learn to not care. I don't want to be a relationship with an uncaring woman, but wonder if all women these days are uncaring. In which case I have no choice but to learn to be the unfeeling, uncaring macho man that women complain about but apparently actually want us to be.

I've been in many great relationships over the years. Women are different these days. Maybe it's that most of the good ones are taken, so the ones that are available are the ones that no man wants, presumably because of their uncaring and entitled attitudes?

And what does that say about me.. I think I'm a good one.. but being an amazing boyfriend and meeting a woman turn out to be incredibly different things, and I don't feel appreciated

[Insightfull]

Sorry for being so waa

[Insightfull]

@aspiegirl_ (how do you tag on this site? lol)

That's really awesome that you do appreciate the things that guys do

[aspiegirl_]

I'm sorry you don't feel appropriated 😕
I do appreciate what guys do because I know they do have feelings. I also try to be romantic, I know that just because they are guys doesn't mean they don't like sweet and romantic stuff like some of us do. Guys deserve the same attention

[Insightfull]

@aspiegirl_ you're awesome

[Insightfull]

@aspiegirl_ yeah, we do have feelings. Some of us hide it because that's what society tells us to do to be masculine, though I reject that as a requirement. I think it's actually manlier to be at one with and in control of my emotions, and able to express and feel. Also, I make a way better lover because of it.

I like sweetness and romance too. And yes. I love good attention and there's nothing wrong with that.

[roland77]

@aspiegirl_ Awesome girl you are. Just ignore Kim.

[stevemeh]

Answer is simple, tinder was made women.

These girls know that once they hit 18 they can just get dicked down by any flavor guy they want provider it feeds their egos like screwing the pretty boys, the bad boys, the cash cocks, etc.

Us more average or below average guys ( let's call these the bottom 80%) have to compete for ungrateful women who will just screw around with the top 20% more desirable guys. Us 80% of guys just give up and just end up hating women since it's clear we weren't good enough in their prime and somehow feel entitled to us in their decline who have hit a metaphorical wall when their youth and beauty has waned dradtically.

Laughing at old childless women who have no eggs in the carton or single mothers looking for good men is the best revenge us average or below guys can get since we those women have in a sense become us but a bit worse off.

Sure some thirsty loser might get laid but in the end this will bore woman and what is the point in getting bored when there is tinder?

So why bother at all? Why even try to engage with women when they can easily just find something better?

[Lynx122]

Great take! I think you're right if more girls reacted positively to romantic stuff more guys would do it again. I don't think rejection is that bad but we're not gonna go out of our way to humiliate ourselves by being romantic towards a girl that just sees it as desperation. If girls don't like guys who "try to hard" then guys don't see the point in trying. And that's how you get netflix and chill, fuckbuddys and things like that.

Same goes for texting sometimes I feel like it's a game of who's less available, who can make the other person wait longer for an answer, who can commit less to anything, who can write the most unenthusiastic texts ever.

I'm not good at this game as you can see I write a book on every question but then the other person just puts in no effort and I'm just like fuck this I'm done and stay single XD.

[aspiegirl_]

Hahahaha, exactly. I understand. It's soooo hard

[Maraneva]

I've had that 5th point happen to me all the time continued by "Why do you bother? You're not my boyfriend or something."
Needless to say, I don't bother caring about anyone anymore.
Seriously though thanks for laying all this out cause guys can't even say these without pissing people off. Much needed post!

[aspiegirl_]

I know. I know many guys have this problem now because of women's behaviour

Truth is... Someone has to say it. And I did because I'm sick of that. A few days ago my boyfriend's best friend called him crying and I was with him (my boyfriend). His friend said he was crying because this girl he liked played with him. They were going on dates for nearly two months and he planned a romantic dinner at a posh restaurant, he asked her to officially be his girlfriend when they finished their food and she said "Are you going to pay for me too?" And he was like "...". Then she rejected him. And she used to kiss him all the time, yet she rejected him saying "I'm not sure if I like you. I'm an independent woman". Wtf. And then she left and he paid everything!!! I mean, if she didn't like him, why wasn't she honest before all of that? Clearly she was using him. He felt used. And he paid for everything!!! Guys don't have to pay all the time, I mean, yeah, it's nice but I'm sure they would appreciate if we offered to split the bill 😕

[Maraneva]

Yeah it actually hurts a lot more than many guys admit.
I've had other instances where I used to help girls who had to walk home from work by dropping them off near their homes. They on the other hand believed rumours that I was doing all that in desperation to get one of them and started giving me disgusted looks. And now? Finish work, start the car, get out of office without even bothering to smile at them as I pass them walking. Do I feel used? Yep. Do I feel dejected? All the time. Do I regret helping them? Sadly yes😕

[kim45456]

Can you stop making generalizations? You little slut dont know the whole female population. So stop thinking you are special and all other women are trash

[Boogie_01]

@kim45456 chill slut

[Maraneva]

@kim45456 if this comment, was directed to @aspiegirl_, then you'd want to reconsider your words. No one claimed to know the whole female population and even if that did happen, you using the word slut is simply so irrelevant here. I hope you know what that means and realise the silliness of your word usage.

[kim45456]

Nowhere in here take she use "some women". She is speaking about the whole aka majority of women

[aspiegirl_]

I never said "all girls", I said "many girls" now, if you feel like you kinda belong to that part of the population, that's not my problem. And before calling me "slut" make sure to read a dictionary and understand the meaning of that word. Have a beautiful day! 💛

[kim45456]

So you know the majority of women all over world?

[kim45456]

Maybe in your experience but you can't speak for the majority of women.

[aspiegirl_]

Hahaha, same question goes for you. Do you know every girl in the world to say they are angels, sweet, grateful, respectful, etc?

[aspiegirl_]

That's why I said "many"!!! not "all girls". Calm dooooown!

[kim45456]

So it is in your experience then. By saying "many" -not "all"- you are speaking for the majority of women all over the word. I think i take you too literally and you seem nice

[aspiegirl_]

... I said "I've seen many girls (...)" So that means that it is in my experience, I've seen many girls behaving that way, including my friends and other girls.

And yeah, I think you took it too literally but that's okay, I totally understand. I take things literally too, I'm autistic so that's one of my traits

[kim45456]

Oh i am sorry then!

[aspiegirl_]

It's okay! 💛 No worries

[kim45456]

By the way cheating can't be justified. So you should not think it is your fault, if a guy cheats on you. I myself have a high libido but would never ever cheat on my partner, if he does not give enough sex.

[aspiegirl_]

It was an example

[kim45456]

And what do you mean with the point 4? What is wrong with being bro or being masculine? 😅 i know some guys who like masculine women, you dont have to change yourself, because you can find a guy who likes you the way you are. I myself like a little feminine guys

[Maraneva]

@kim45456 & @aspiegirl_, whoa I was taken aback by 13 new notifications lol.

[roland77]

@kim45456 She is special because she exactly tells what is wrong about so many material-oriented women. Besides, my girlfriend is kind and not material-oriented or a gold-digger. She is after my emotions.

[nelly83]

No, you just sound immature and entitled. Firstly, if a girl doesn't appreciate your bringing her flowers, it means you're choosing to date a mean stuck up girl instead of a nice girl. If you chose to date a stuck up , selfish girl then you should deal with that reaction. Lastly, people cheat whenever their relationship is not fulfilling. Women cheat on men too when he's not fulfilling her. So don't only talk about men's sexual needs. It goes both ways. Lastly, if you're not willing to be a gentleman to your girlfriend, she can get a better man. Little things like flowers, holding the door open for your lady, walking in the muddy side of the road so she doesn't get splashed are all things you do when you're in love with her. If you don't want to do these things, she can get a better man than you.
Quit being so entitled.

[Lightning8]

What do you think she is entitled to?

[aspiegirl_]

Just because I say what I SAW doesn't mean I'm immature and entitled.
I know people cheat when the relationship is not working. I don't think you paid attention to what I wrote, I clearly talked about women's need too. I said that girls also cheat if they (girls) don't get what they (girls) need (aka, sex, love, attention, respect, support, etc). But the main reason why a guy cheats is because his partner does not want to have sex, and humans need sex. It is part of a relationship and a way to share love with your partner.

I agree with the "if you're not willing to be a gentleman to your girlfriend, she can get a better man. Little things like flowers, holding the door open for your lady, walking in the muddy side of the road so she doesn't get splashed are all things you do when you're in love with her", the thing is that they normally do those cute little things but the problem is that many girls don't like it, or say things like they can do it by themselves, so they don't need a guy to do that. That's when guys stop doing all those cute things, because some girls react in a negative way about it.

Again, I'm not entitled nor immature. And again, this is just my opinion, I respect yours 💛. But you should try to pay more attention to what you're reading and then, say something about it. Have a beautiful day! 💛✨

[nelly83]

@aspiegirl_, there was nothing wrong with what I said. Everything was explained very logically. The problem is that you only see it through one perspective. Im simply bringing in multi perspectives to it. Every situation has both sides of the story. Its wrong to just listen to one party and ignore the other.

[nelly83]

@Lightning8 Entitled to seeing in in one perspective.

[aspiegirl_]

But I do listen to both parties :(. I know many many girls that are like the one I described, and many guys that are like the guy I described, sweet, respectful, etc. Though I know many girls and many guys aren't like them. Both, girls and guys have their good and bad side. We're different 😌. This myTake was about what I've noticed some girls do when guys are trying to be nice. Of course, some guys have their negative side as well and that's what I will talk about in the next few days

[nelly83]

@aspiegirl_, If you give flowers to your girlfriend and she is so spoiled that she rejects them, its a sign that there is something wrong with your taste in women. Dating a bitch, is your choice. And lastly, if your man does not show you little signs of appreciation for you, then you're with the wrong guy. A man head over heels in love with you, will certainly it through the smaller things such as letting you in the door first, buying gifts for you, bringing you home with you asking.

This is the other side of the story, I would like you to understand.

[aspiegirl_]

... see? You're not paying attention to what I said —sigh—, y'know what? Forget it

[LEETSBEREAL]

@nelly83 I don't think your getting it. I think @aspiesgirl is trying to say. Is the reaction of Spoon is not necessary she doesn't like the flowers that's fine she could simply decline them and give them back to the fella she doesn't have to behave the way she does. By putting the blame bk on the guy for giving her the flowers. It's as if your condoning her behavior the guy has taken her at face value and she has thrown it bk in his face and it's not acceptable. She is ruining it for females who would appreciate this gesture but coz of her behavior he might not ever do it again. This could of been avoided had Spoon used her mouth and just been honest even if its harsh. Rather that, than put the guy down behind his back coz what's the use? Every one needs to take responsibility for thier actions it includes Spoon she doesn't get a free pass for being an arse hole and behaving like a spoilt brat. Don't treat anyone how you would not want to be treated yourself this is just basic common courtesy.

[nelly83]

@LEETSBEREAL in every gender population , there are gonna be assholes. In every race, there are gonna be nice people and bad people. You can't say these bitchy women are ruining it for the rest of the female population. Similarly you can't insist that there be no mean women that exist. You can't force people to become someone they are not.

If a girl is so spoiled that she throws your flowers away, then the REAL question is: why would you still be dating someone like that? If she's mean enough to do that, I will bet that she is also mean in many other aspects of life. Assholes will always exist, but it doesn't mean you have to date them.

[Cocacolaaddict]

Forget it guys I tried speaking sense to her before she dosent understand she sees what she wants to see and she will never understand nor respect your point of view save your breath

[LEETSBEREAL]

@Cocacolaaddict the thing is she hasn't even read what has been written before answering so her point of view isn't based on the actual information presented in the first place. @nelly83 You can't go round in life claiming multiple perspectives when your only in fact giving one and then justify it with Oh well this is just how the world is. No it fucking isn't the world is what you make it there is room for improvement, growth and change esp for such nasty characters but not if you walk around making up your mind that because people are a certain way it doesn't apply to them so they get a free pass it's all the guys fault. No they need to learn and you need to open up your mind - your opinion isn't the only one. It's ok you don't have to get it today some of us have to learn the hard way. I can see your one of these people. As I've been advised its within your nature not to listen I won't waste any more of my time. @Cocacolaaddict as disappointed as I am. thanks for the heads up. SNM I'm out.

[Alex_988_2]

@aspiegirl_ just ignore her... you clearly made you point but she is molding everything biased towards men, she's another meaningless biased pseudo feminazi!

[nelly83]

@LEETSBEREAL You can't change the world. Its a very naïve perspective on life. When you get older, you will realize that people do not change, especially if they are adults. Liars are always gonna lie. Cheaters are always gonna cheat. Mean people will always be mean. Marla maples didn't like that Donald trump because he was a workaholic. She married him, believing that eventually he can change. He didn't, and they got divorced.

One of my ex boyfriend married a woman who he knew was a complete promiscuous flirt. He always knew that she would have a hard time committing. but he loved her so much that he married her anyways. Guess what? they got married and she cheated on him!!

People don't change!!! people are born the way they are. Not everyone is the same way.
The reason why some people are so nice while others are so nasty is because THEY ARE BORN THAT WAY.
The human population is not designed to be identical. There are gonna be lesbians, gays, emo. People might enjoy dressing strangely. There are gonna be people that are mean while those that are nice. You gotta realize that people that are made to be different.

Maybe its the fact that you're so young, lacking in life experience which is why you think people can change. Just because you forced her to pretend to be nice in receiving your shitty flowers, it doesn't mean she has changed. If you're dating a bitch, she will show her bitchiness in other ways.

[nelly83]

@Alex_988_2 why don't you read some of the wisdom I just wrote?

[nelly83]

@LEETSBEREAL I will be completely honest and upfront here. Your gf/ boyfriend who throws away your flowers (cuz its not good enough), is not worth dating. Its a sign an immature person doesn't respect you or the relationship. I wouldn't even bother to complain about this nasty person, I would just go find someone better. The world doesn't adapt to you, you adapt to the world.

[nelly83]

@LEETSBEREAL This question makes it seem as if men don't need to hold any responsibility over their own decisions while it is women that always need to change for men or adapt to men. One of the biggest parts of a fulfilling relationship is selecting the right partner. If a guy selects a bitch as his girlfriend, he might very well endure the consequences of his decision.

[aspiegirl_]

@nelly83 Would you please calm down? If you don't like this post then just get out of here. I respect your opinion, but please do respect mine and other's.
I think people do change, the fact that they don't want to is quite different. A kid isn't born with a horrible personality, society makes them act that way due to familiar problems, bullying or any other different situation.

"Just because you forced her to pretend to be nice in receiving your shitty flowers, it doesn't mean she has changed". Alright! See? That's my point. Why do you have to say "shitty"? That's something that should be appreciated, but now I realised you're just another Cuchara.

And it makes me laugh the fact that you think that being young is synonym of being immature/ inexperienced. No one can't tell what one has been through just because of their age, a kid might have gone through a lot and can be even more mature than a teenager. And just so you know, @LEETSBEREAL is older than you, but again, it doesn't matter. You just have to learn to respect people's opinion if you liked it or not. Pay more attention before saying a word and take life less seriously. You're young, you're supposed to close your eyes and enjoy the roller coaster that is life 💛

[aspiegirl_]

@nelly83 No no, you've misunderstood everything. My point was that girls should appreciate more what guys do. Their effort, and if there's anything they (girls) don't like, they can let them know but always respecting

[nelly83]

@aspiegirl_, Not saying that its impossible for people to change. But for the most part, they DON'T. I have seen countless examples of how people simply do not change, for the most part. I have seen many many folks who have divorced because they thought their spouses would change. I was born a very kind as a little kid. My parents and brother weren't nearly as nice as I am. There was no explanation for it. Its purely genetics. Nobody ever taught me to be kind. It just occurred naturally.
You can't underestimate the influence of nature over nurture. My father has always been arrogant and bad tempered since he was a child. None of his parents or siblings were bad tempered. He lived his entire life the same bad tempered person until his 60s. Some things just occur naturally and it doesn't change.

Just because you force an evil person to say "please" or "thank you", it doesn't change their heart. Anyone can say please or thank you, but it doesn't mean they kind hearted.

[aspiegirl_]

@nelly83 oh my god, hahaha. Ya, wey. Forget it. Live your life and be happy ✨

[nelly83]

@aspiegirl_, I think that any reasonable partner should naturally appreciate things that their lovers do for them. I don't think this needs to be taught. If someone doesn't appreciate your efforts or even at least tries to appreciate it, its a huge sign that this person is not a great lady.

[akihon]

This is what entitled sounds like.

[aspiegirl_]

Like who? @akihon

[akihon]

@aspiegirl_ it's obviously nelly83 because only somebody with a massively overinflated ego and sense of entitlement would behave in this way, it's almost as though she's trying to make mysoginy a valid thought pattern

[LEETSBEREAL]

@nelly83 your the naive one if you think your 24 years of experience triumphants reality and when I say reality I am talking about what's real. Your even more lost if you think people can't change because you say so. Using what has happened around you to confirm and justify your view. The world is bigger then your thoughts and opinions I can throw down a list of case studies that will prove you wrong point blank and these aren't my 'life experiences' which is all you have to back up your singular point of view these are statistics. People's lives. Believe it or not people who do want to change can and through certain programmes its possible. They come to people like me when they are ready to make the decision to do so as it's my field. So I am well on my way to changing the world thank you very much. You have no right to dictate what people are and aren't capable off. Don't judge everyone else by your own standards. If you want to live in your delusion that's absolutely fine, no problem but have some decency and respect. Do not rubbish other people's opinion to champion your own that's just low and gets no one anywhere your never going to learn anything if you think your the only one who is right. When you get a bit older maybe when you hit your 30's perhaps your see further then this box you can't see past, hopefully you find space for a broader mindset. You may not think that you can change and maybe you don't want to. Just don't think the world is missing out coz the only one doing that is you.

[nelly83]

@LEETSBEREAL You should be old enough to take responsibility over your own actions. If you choose to date a douchebag, you should know that you will be dealing with an asshole. You don't expect an evil nasty person to be kind to you. If you want to be treated well, you go for nice kind people. Take responsibility over your own actions.

[LEETSBEREAL]

@nelly83 Yes and ee ALL MUST take responsibility that applies to EVERYONE there are no exclusions including those who 'choose to be a doushe bag' that is the end of it. Agree to disagree if you must.

[nelly83]

@LEETSBEREAL I'm glad to find someone who is mature enough to acknowledge reality. You're the coolest one on here out of the pot of losers.

[Lightning8]

@nelly83 Hey 😝

[Chase7777]

You sound entitled. Muddy side of the road, that's hilarious.

[nelly83]

@Chase7777 You say that because you believe that men should not have any responsibility over their own actions.

[carebear33]

I completely agree with you. She sounds naive and immature.

[carebear33]

If this was the case. Good girls wouldn't be getting their hearts broken. She'll learn. Give her time...

[Alex_988_2]

@nelly83 how about you actually write some 'wisdom' for me to read?

you are just another case of a spoiled butt hurt feminazi who can't accept if someone (or here everyone) disagrees with your garbage. sod off and come back when you are mature enough.

[carebear33]

@Alex_988_2 sure bud. Im sure youve never rejected a girl that liked you. Im sure that you'll never cheat. Im sure you're an absolute sweetheart to every girl that crosses your path. Whether she's beautiful or a 27 year old obese women. Im sure bud. Women can be horrible and so can men.

Before you glorify being a women. Please look up the rape statistics. And see how you "men" are treating us. If you want to blame and label all women the same.
Im going to go ahead and say that everyman is a rapist or capable of being one.

[carebear33]

Man*

[nelly83]

@Alex_988_2 You sound like a butt hurt anti feminist, woman hater. Everyone here actually finally agrees with my point of view. Except for you, because you believe that women serve men. Women should cater to men.

[nelly83]

@Alex_988_2 My job as a feminist is to put woman haters like you, back in your place. Enough of your sexist garbage about women having to serve men. I guarantee that if this was real life, you wouldn't have the guts to even argue about this.

[carebear33]

So does the person who posted this intake. The type who'll suck a guys dick cause he called her pretty

[Alex_988_2]

@nelly83 i think i agree, to some extent, with one thing you said in your garbage, yeah "some" people dont change.
now i remember you are that same fuckwit i argued few months back and yeah still your peanut sized 24ish-5 year's old retarded immature brain has not changed a bit.
you still are a filthy weepin' ass dumbfucked man hating bitch who got fucked in the head some night and got her brain flushed out of her toilet head by some random stray cock.
and like i said fuck off and come back when you are mature enough to actually hold a conversation. i'd love to do this the 3rd time. utter shit headed garbage!

[Alex_988_2]

@carebear33 ahh i've no idea when i talked to you and I've no idea about words that you are putting in my mouth and i've no idea even, how they are relating to me.
anyway we could see how @nelly83 responded and how @aspiegirl_ replied. even a blind would be able to tell who had some issues with developing of their brain while growing up.
i can say for sure that 27 year old obese women would be you lol and if you were trying to say something to me for no reason, bitch ill make sure you keep that stinky mouth-hole of yours shut and open only when i ask you suck my pet dog's dick because i ain't gonna put it in that disgusting mouth of yours (like we could see on forum here) and this answers to what type of women i reject.

[nelly83]

@Alex_988_2 you're just disagreeing because you're a woman hater. The rest of us aren't.

[aspiegirl_]

@carebear33 I wouldn't suck a penis because a guy called me "pretty". Calm down

[Chase7777]

Wtf, this makes no sense.

[aspiegirl_]

@Chase7777 exactly

[Alex_988_2]

@nelly83 but i said i agree with you. and how i agree, i explained in my reply
apparently, with that cock in your head, your eyes got fucked out too with your penis-sized brain lol

[Alex_988_2]

@aspiegirl_ you dont have to ask @carebear33 to calm down.

they would do it more that way

[Chase7777]

Are you crazy? You write things that MEN have to to do and then accuse other people that call you out about them wanting women to serve them.

That's called entitlement.

[Chase7777]

You seem to be projecting a lot, probably a men hater.

[aspiegirl_]

If I hated men, I wouldn't have written something like that. But y'know what? Think whatever you want, it's okay. I respect it

[nelly83]

@Chase7777 Of course a man would never admit that they are sexist. But if you write something that reeks of sexism, you better get ready for a backlash. We women, don't take your BS. You better think twice before you post something.

[Chase7777]

I never wrote anything sexist. It's not my fault that you are too dumb to understand what I write.
Good that there are also smart women that aren't completely crazy out there.

[carebear33]

@Alex. You think you're such a gentleman after writing stuff like that. you're the opposite of the man OP describe. you're relating to something you aren't even. you're just a slum of a man whose probably broke af and can't get laid. Take out your anger elsewhere.

[Chase7777]

@carebear33 😂 you don't even realize that you are the one insulting people and being petty. Pathetic. This site makes it seem like most women are too dumb to argue.

[akihon]

Chase7777 I have to agree that it's coming across as petty and hate filled, I'm my view the op is saying a thank you to all men, good ones anyway for being who they are, what's wrong with that I don't really know, there seems to be very little care or want for men in the world, yet at the same time there is a lot of asking where the good men are even where the men are.

If there really is that much hatred towards men I don't see anybody stopping these women being the strong independent people they claim and going off to their own place and starting their own society by women for women of women, barring all contact with men, nobody is stopping that from happening, what I find saddening though is one person comes out in celebration of men and in return she gets ten times that back from men saying, thanks and you have a fan etc, and also ten time condemnation from women essentially saying she's betrayed the sisterhood. That's sad. I wonder just how many of these women are one day going to refuse to ask a man for help if it's needed and risk their own lives.

[carebear33]

@akin. You men literally hear what you want to.
Noone is denying that good men exist but this post implies that all men are angels as long as a women is appreciative. If that is the case. Why do so many loving, loyal and honest women get heartbroken. Left behind or cheated on. If this post is accurate. shouldn't every good women on earth have a great boyfriend or husband? Many men assume theyre good guys. When quite frankly some aren't and are just playing victim. If we want to generalize all women im going to stand by generalization and say that most men. Statistically speaking are capable of raping a women. There. Lets all be biased huh

[akihon]

I fail to see where it states that all men are such a thing, it just seems then your getting your panties in a bunch over something one woman said which you may or may not agree with, if you do in part then great if not then that's ok too, but why condemn her for her views. Would you be just as happy then if I say we're to write about the things I love about women or would you sit there and condemn me, sadly I have a sneaky feeling you'd take the same road as men are, the difference here is that for years men who have just be quietly going around doing our thing not harming anybody have been cast into hell along with those who do, ignoring the fact that there are a large number of women who do just as many horrid things themselves yet again we men say nothing, we stay quiet and for that enjoy your hate. Fine if that's what it is, I expect then when war kicks off somewhere your more than happy to catch a bullet or when your house burns down your more than happy to put it out yourself. You see from time to time there is nothing wrong with saying thank you, let's not forget your able to be the big brave keyboard warrior due to the work of men. If your really that against saying thank you, then by all means stop saying it and see how far you get, let's also see how strong and independent you are by taking all of those things you take for granted developed by men and get rid of them and then let's all see how strong and independent you really are.

[nelly83]

@Chase7777 your perspective is sexist. You think men don’t need to take responsibility for who they date. Soo many chauvinistic and misogynistic men on here.

[akihon]

The irony of what you've said is totally lost on you.

[Chase7777]

@carebear33 wtf, you realize that women cheat more often?
Are you hurt or something, you should talk to a professional maybe.

[Rob19777]

OH GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU COLD HEARTED CUNT

[Rob19777]

@nelly83 OH GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU COLD HEARTED CUNT

[nelly83]

@Rob19777 haha what makes you think I care? I will do it over and over again.

[Rob19777]

@nelly83 Oh I know you will because that's the kind of cunt you are

[Rob19777]

@akihon I completely agree

[Rob19777]

@Alex_988_2 She is I been noticing that myself with her post

[Rob19777]

@akihon you mean misandry

[Rob19777]

@carebear33 Ahh and there you have it the feminazi speaks her hatefilled misandry

[Rob19777]

@nelly83 Ah there you have it your hatefilled man-hating misandrinistic side finally shows it's true colors WHAT A SHOCK to see you hate men as much as you do

[Rob19777]

@nelly83 My job as a feminist is to put woman haters like you, back in your place... Go fuck yourself. If you ever talked to me like that I would bitchslap your ass back to reality and make you eat a big piece of fucking humble pie.

[Rob19777]

@carebear33 oh like all the dicks you sucked on you whore

[nelly83]

@Rob19777 I don't care how you feel. You can whine and scream again on my next post.

[Rob19777]

@nelly83 Nah cause I got better things to do than listen to your incessant incoherent babble

[Alex_988_2]

@Rob19777 ahh mate just leave those two bitches barking. everyone here has told them about their dumbness but their minds were fucked in the head some night and got filled with jizz so they actually can't have a argument. both are just some worthless douches and its better if you forget them those fuckwits.
and yeah we had similar fights before so @nelly83 has some mental disorder.

[Alex_988_2]

*an
and ok maybe i shouldn't have said that

[Steiner001]

@nelly83 and @carebear33 ... This is probably not my place to intrude... but when i read this post and this whole discussion going on in the comment section, i just could not stop myself., even though I am not the kind of person to participate in online debates (Except in the anime community)... I will narrate you an incident which happened with me two years back. This incident changed my personality... revolutionized my whole existence... simultaneously, it took away something very important.

This dates back to 2017... i had a friend named F (obvious alias). He was my only friend that i had in my 19 years of life. He was fat, and was very ugly looking... from the OUTSIDE.

Believe me, he was angel on earth. HE had every virtue embedded in that fat body of his. He was the kindest soul i met in my life... in every way possible. But yeah, he was not a MAN... i saw and observed his habits for the three fortunate years i got to talk with that amazing piece of god... When i read @aspiegirl_ post about those little things like opening the door for someone (Point 5), i remembered him...(I have started to cry now, its hard to keep typing)... he also used to do these things (The only difference was that he used to do them for everyone rater than just his lover or just women... he did that many times for me too... he did that for his father and his mother when we went out for lunch...), he did not respect women, he used to respect people, his views on people were uniting, not dividing...
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[Steiner001]

The day of 17th may, 2017 was special for him. In the evening he came to my house... and as i opened the door, he threw his arms around me!!!

Me: Wai... wait, what happened dude? Why so happy today, huh?
F: my feet are not on the ground today, i am in heaven...
Me: What happened? but first get off me...
F: you know C (alias again)?
Me: C? Oh you mean that C who sits in front of the row...
F: Yeah yeah the beautiful one...
Me: well yeah... so?
F: She confessed.
Me: confessed? to whom?
F: man, take a hint... TO YOUR BRO!!!
Me: huh?

Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh?
Now it was my turn to throw my arms around him.

Me: For real?

F: yeah!!! It sounds dreamy, does it not? She confessed to a rag like me... chose me over the best people in our whole college... when she could get any guy she wanted...

Me: Yeah...

F: She is beautiful... and i am not talking about her face...

Me: I understand... but I also talk to you...

F: Man, why are you comparing yourself to her? lemme guess, are you lonely? Don''t worry... its friends first for me...

Me: lol... anyways congratulations...
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[Steiner001]

I was happy for him... i was so happy... i was so happy for C too... they are such good people...(honestly, if I was more careful, I would not have been writing this)...

19th September, 2017... I was waiting to go in my examination hall... when my teacher called me and said that someone had called on my phone (I had submitted the phone due to examination)... I held the phone to my ears...

Me: Yes F, wazzup?
F (his voice was broken, it truly was): I messed up, dude, i messed up big time and made a fool of myself.
Me: What happened? are you ok?
F: Are you free? Can i take some of your time?
Me: Is there any need to ask? of course you can...
F: I Got Rejected
Me: Huh? Ok stop. What happened? Details, bro, details.
F: They were apparently playing a game.
Me: Game?

The earth beneath my legs shifted. It sounded like a movie or fiction... I hope it was a movie...

F: Yeah, they were playing a game of cards or somethin' in which the punishment for the looser was to confess to me... and hang out with me for a few days...

Me: HUH? WHAT THE HELL?
YOU DID NOT GOT REJECTED... YOU DUMPED HER ASS!!! DID YOU GIVE HER A SLAP AT LEAST... AN EARFUL TOO...

F: I did not.

Me: Wha...
F: I was shocked. I could not say a word to her... just came back...

Me: How can you even say that (I realised later as to what he was saying)?

F: I wanna die dude... this body of mine is shit... it repels everyone around me...

Me: No... Did it repel me? No it did not... So why are you thinking like that... one's face does not matter...

F: It does... I just realized it...

Me: Wait, I am coming to your house... right now!!!

F: No, i am going outstation with papa
Me: when will you return?

F: 21st.
Me : ok

I bombed my exam... failed in it (Even though i am an honor student)

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[Steiner001]

But then on 21st September, in the morning, i bombed my life.

As i woke up to my mother screaming... And i asked her what had come to pass... ahe told me that F HAD COMMITTED SUICIDE YESTERDAY NIGHT!!!

I dont know how fast i ran to his house, only to find his parents and siblings crying, and the media and police around the house... The whole incident on given a corner column of seventeen lines in the next day's newspaper, which mentioned the reason of suicide as "love affair"...(man, i am crying so hard now)...

I thought that next time i meet that bitch, i may take her life... and i met her... on 12th November, 2017, when is saw she had returned to college after the situation had become normal... I went straight to her, I wanted to punch her... to make her feel how important was the person that her joke snatched away from me and from the world...

BUT YEAH... YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE WHAT I DID... HOW CAN I EXPECT YOU TO BELIEVE WHEN I MYSELF DON'T BELIEVE IT... AS I APPROACHED HER... MY ANGER TURNED INTO SADNESS... MY FACE WAS FILLED WITH TEARS...

I FELL DOWN TO HER LEGS... YEAH I FELL DOWN TO HER LEGS... AND INSTEAD OF SAYING "INHUMAN BITCH!" ALL I COULD MANAGE WAS...

"C, PLEASE, FOR GOD'S SAKE, DO NOT DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AGAIN"
i RAN AWAY... i could hear her calling to me... i could even hear her teary voice... i heard her apologizing... but i ran away...

Her Joke took away one really sweet person from my life... her few minutes of fun came at the cost of a life... but for some reason, i could not get angry with her...(not even now)... F was the person who was the only friend i got in my whole life... He taught me to be a human, rather than a "man"

When i read your post, I remembered him... could I say that it was his fault for being stupid? Yes, Maybe you CAN... and you maybe right on that... but i just do not have the guts in me to blame him... it feels just too harsh to blame him...
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[Steiner001]

When today i read some people (whether feminists, feminazis, or whosoever they are) claim something like "Men are disposable" or that the "Men cannot be sweet and hold no responsibility towards 'women'"... Or that the male population should be reduced to 10 percent (some feminist claimed that... though i agree it sounds somewhat unrelated in this context)... i remember F... WAS HE, DISPOSABLE?
I hate this dirty question... but it comes in mind... it just comes...

What i wanted to say is that everyone has their value... don't think that anyone here is favoring men... they are just saying that they can be sweet and want the same in return... they also like to be cherished... and also like it when you do little thing to them in the same way they do for you... and this is true for everyone... for every "human"... though i dont know about those who are just "men" or just "women"...

Good day...
El Psy Congroo.

[Rob19777]

@Steiner001 im sorry for your loss. He sounded like a great guy who was just looking for love and companionship. Light a candle for him whenever his birthday comes by each year and remember the good fun loving times you had with him. (It made me tear up that story)

[Rob19777]

@nelly83 and nelly when i read "shitty flowers" your attitude is real shitty and you are in desperate need for an attitude adjustment

[Steiner001]

@Rob19777 thank you very much... i am happy that i spent time with him... though i have made new friends... but i just tear up whenever i think about him

[aspiegirl_]

@Steiner001 I'm so so sorry for your loss. I wish that didn't happen, ugh. And I totally understand how he felt because it happened to me too, some guys where playing and I kinda was their last challenge. I wish I could've met your friend, I bet he was such a beautiful human! Not everything is about looks, looks will change eventually, with time. But personality stays the same ❤️. I hope he is resting in peace, and even though you can't see him, he's right next to you, protecting you 💛

[nelly83]

@Rob19777 If you act stupid and say unfair things, expect me to be mean to you. Nobody is gonna be nice to you if you’re gonna an asshole

[Cocacolaaddict]

Nelly stfu don't play victim your the biggest arsehole iv ever met you deserve it do us all a favour and jump off a cliff or at least get off gag everyone is saying the same thing about you take a hint its true don't play the victim card when your the aggrivator now please shut your stupid are up and gtfo gag

[Cocacolaaddict]

Arse* gotta love auto correct

[Rob19777]

@nelly83 nelly im in no mood of fighting this is just becoming pointless you aren't going to change your mind or see it from anyone else's perspective and neither is anyone else seeing things from yours. It's a clear and classic case of tunnel vision on both ends. Learn to change and better yourself for your future benefit

[nelly83]

@Rob19777 you're in no mood to fight over what? fight over my claim that men should be responsible for who they date? how do you complain about being mistreated when you CHOOSE to date an asshole? Do I really need to explain this to you?

[Steiner001]

@nelly83 I did not type that long incident to gain sympathy or to make others feel sorry for me (no offense towards anyone)... I did that exclusively for you... to make you realize your faults...

Answer my question if you care-(OTHERS CAN PUT THEIR OPINION TOO)

Would you go to F (if you knew him), stand in front of him, before he was going to suicide, and say that -"its all your fault for being such a moron!"? your Feminism or your womanhood might allow you, but your HUMANITY will freeze your mouth...

What you are saying is the reality... rather, to be precise, it is the HARSH reality... everyone here is going against you because what you are saying is actually like staking your humanity for some facts... yes, it may be F's fault in what happened to him... but just say it to your heart three times... and your mind will understand why all these people are badmouthing you... your heart yourself will give you the answer, your mind itself will call you a scumbag...

And if your answer to that question remains a "yes" even after asking your insides, believe me, YOU ARE LESS OF A HUMAN AND MORE OF A WOMAN... AND THAT IS NOT SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF...

[Alex_988_2]

@aspiegirl_ someone just block her

[nella965]

@Steiner001 @Steiner001 "Would you go to F (if you knew him), stand in front of him, before he was going to suicide, and say that -"its all your fault for being such a moron!"? your Feminism or your womanhood might allow you, but your HUMANITY will freeze your mouth..."

FIRSTLY WHY WOULD YOU STAY WITH A TORTURER FROM HELL AS A GIRLFRIEND? LIKE I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULDN'T LEAVE SATAN. IF YOU CLEARLY KNOW THAT she's BAD FOR YOU, AND YOU CHOOSE TO STAY WITH HER, ITS YOUR FAULT!! I AM NOT COLD HEARTED TO SAY THIS. IM JUST SAYING THAT IF YOU CARED ENOUGH TO PROTECT YOURSELF, YOU WOULD LEAVE HER. YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO OBLIGATION TO STAY WITH AN ABUSER. NOBODY IS FORCING YOU TO STAY WITH HER. YOUR LIFE, YOUR CHOICE.

YOUR LIFE IS WHAT YOU MAKE OF IT. EITHER YOU WANT TO BETTER YOUR SELF OR YOU DON'T. AND IF YOU SUICIDE, ITS YOUR FAULT. QUIT BEING A WOMAN HATER AND BLAMING WOMEN FOR ALL YOUR MISFORTUNES. WE ARE SICK OF YOUR CONSTANTLY BELITTLING OF WOMEN.

BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THATS THE ONLY THING THAT GIVES YOU SATISFACTION IN LIFE. GOD FORBID THAT ANY WOMAN WILL EVER BE WITH YOU IN YOUR LIFETIME. POOR LADY.

[nella965]

@Steiner001 you just blocked me because you knew you can't argue with me. My answer definitely makes more sense than yours.

[nella965]

@Steiner001 I honestly find it funny how men on here love to hate on women but yet they complain about feminists shitting on them. What makes you think its ok to hate on women but its not ok for women to hate on men? double standards much? HAHA

Go cry on your own. I'm not gonna argue with your immature woman hating ass anymore. You're just nothing but a waste of time.

[Chase7777]

@nella965 I hope you say the same things to women abused by men.
Although you probably shouldn't say something like this at all.

[Steiner001]

@nella965 what are ya saying... i never blocked you... why the hell would a beginner like me try and block you... I AM NOT A WOMAN HATER... I COULD NOT EVEN BERATE THAT PERSON WHO PLAYED A JOKE ON MY PRECIOUS FRIEND... i admit that it was his fault... but you did not answer my question... first answer it...

BECAUSE I ONLY DEBATE WITH HUMANS... WHO KNOW HOW TO UNDERSTAND...

ALSO DON'T YOU THINK YOU ARE BEING A BIT RUDE AGAINST THOSE WHO ARE GONE?

[ScarletJean]

I feel like you are discussing younger, possibly immature girls/women. With the whole not being greatful/wanting the guys to read her mind type of mentality. Plus I've noticed the younger generations wanting to be a influencers. People wanting things fast, the entitlement, there is a big lack of respect in society..

[Boppy]

I kinda get that. Someone acting like they're better than others and going around talking about how they deserve better than others and bragging.
I see it a lot with men and women in my age group where I live. It's a drag to deal with but I'm not sure how to react besides just not believing them.

[DonCachondo]

Definitely. Older women are much more confident and appreciative. They're much more likely to own their body and sexuality. Keep in mind that OP's message is largely directed at the younger generation (s).

[roland77]

@Boppy She is not acting like that. She just said the truth and she got (and expected it, ha!) mocked and harassed for it.

[Boppy]

@roland77 She? Who? I don't understand.

[dbr1987]

This whole text is the most accurate ever i've seen from a women. So i refer to you as a women not a female😉 You adress most of the problems and accept them. You also don't give a shit what other females will say, probs for that,! Good to see, have a Nice day

[aspiegirl_]

Haha, thanks! Have a lovely day ahead

[pepper1993]

I agree with everything except the cheating part. There is absolutely no defense for it 99.9% of the time. Withholding sex is not the same as denying someone water or air, and if the guy (or girl) has a problem with it then they should just end the relationship before they "find it from someone else". Just like my opinion man...

[aspiegirl_]

Yeah, it was an example. Sex is not a reason to cheating, but that's why it happens. Also, that's why I said that it doesn't mean guys can force girl to have sex whenever they need/want it

[razelove]

Not necessarily, the only time I cheated was for revenge, not because of a lack of sex. Again, as above I should have just gotten out, but my self-esteem was low, so I fucked all of her friends. She cheated on me, and it made me hurt, so I wanted to make her hurt worse.

[Cocacolaaddict]

Sex isn't a need like water and air? Your wrong there sex is an actual male need it's the same kind of need drug addicts have while we won't die if we don't get it we do INTENSLY crave it if anything for the relief of the craving or the enjoyment of it its like a drug that we need.

[pepper1993]

@Cocacolaaddict jeez dude once puberty is over you'll understand what im saying... maybe change your username to Sexaddict lol?

[Cocacolaaddict]

Pretty sure I'm past puberty. maybe when you grow up a little and stop dismissing male needs instead of only thinking of female needs you'll be able to say something. besides this was ages ago why you reigniting old convos?

[Anonymous]

Women would be wise to start showing a little more appreciation for men in general. It's been unfashionable for women to say anything nice or show any appreciation at all for men for many years now and it has had a negative impact on gender relations for sure, and a very negative affect on men's view of women. That anger and resentment are building.

That pendulum is going to swing back before long, and it's going to bite women hard in the ass if they don't start being better human beings. Women will only ever have any power in this world when men allow them to. That's just a fact of human nature. If women continue to piss off men the way the have been, it's not going to end well for them.

[roland77]

2 "females" disagree with you. But true it is! I have watched a video from a German relationship coach where he stated it as number one most wanted thing. Appreciate us in what we do for you (females).

[chadpattan]

"Not being a gentleman"

True story: When I was a young adult I took a girl to the mall with me (I was shopping, she was just along for the ride). Side entrance of what used to be Plaza Bonita Mall down in San Diego.

When I went to open the door for her, she said and I quote, "N**** (both of us black, mind you) I can open my own DAMN door!"

It didn't stop me, but I'm just saying... some women actually disagree with what Ralph Tresvant used to talk about in "Sensitivity" and "Stone Cold Gentleman".

[Shamalien]

Love a logical girl... only gripe with this is that sex is not like a drink of water, it's not necessary, and no matter how bad your relationship is there is never an excuse to cheat. Break up if you must but don't cheat.

But yeah, don't worry about all the harpies, us men will be here to defend ya, and we are better allies.

[aspiegirl_]

Haha, it was an example ☺️

[Shamalien]

The word you're looking for is 'analogy' :P and it was a poor one.

I hope you're logical side will appreciate my cold bluntness :)

[aspiegirl_]

Haha it's alright

[roland77]

Well, to put it this way. Sex is about trust. No sex, no trust. But sure you don't mean it that way. I have a high sex-drive, still I'm not needy in it, just would greatly miss it.

[kim45456]

Yeah discriminatin women for not being feminine is ok

[roland77]

@kim45456 Kim, why are you so idiotic here? Nobody is discriminating a woman here?

[kim45456]

She said it is womens fault for beind not feminine enough instead of saying these women should find someone who accept them. Go read her take again before you call me an idiot, you sl*t

[LightEnd]

Another reason guys are not romantic anymore is because we learn that women are not turned on by that type of behavior. When we try to win women over with niceness and sweetness it almost never works. If you peek her interest and them ignore her and "ACT" like your not that interested then she will want you more. To keep a womans interest you HAVE to ignore her texts, You cannot try to chase her or she will run. We all learn this the hard way by chasing women off when we try to act like they do in the movies. And listen to what women say they want. We have to make women "miss" us and not really know if we are into her or not.

I know its lame but that's the way women are wired.

[LightEnd]

So we dont really do this to be dicks. We do it because if we donot we will not accomplish the goal.

[roland77]

Not true, my girlfriend is 28 and she wants a kind and nice man. She appreciates it in me every time we speak.

[LightEnd]

Hmm then only certain types of women that are this way? How long have you been dating? I am more referring to acts of chasing. I have been in quite a few LTRs and married and I think being too nice had a detrimental effect on the relationship. Also I have been a little to interested in a few women who were turned off by excessive niceties.

[LightEnd]

In my experience, you cannot really listen to what a woman says she wants.

[LightEnd]

But I will admit this may be entirely related to the type of woman it is.

[roland77]

It surely depends on your woman you are with, mine is like that, she wants a nice and kind person, she likes balance (and I do, too), not word-fighting every day on each other. She doesn't like that.

[Anonymous]

You are tge defintion of a female cuck. If you dont like your privileges and rights, then go to saudi arabia. Cheating can't never be justified. Stop supporting man hoes.
And you are making many generalizations.

You are probably an ugly girl who can't laid otherwise you would not act like a cuck and you have many male friends who dont want a shit from you= so you are ugly. And what tf do you mean that girls are not feminine anymore? If you like feminine girl then go fucking date feminine girls instead of changing them. It is fucking ignorant how you can't see tons of incels hating on women on a social media. Just write the words "feminism", woman right" etc. in youtube search, you will find out tons of disrespectful boys in the commentsection who hate on women.

[SomeGuyCalledTom]

--Talks about "disrespectful boys"
-- Calls OP a fat ugly cuck

Mmmmkay

[Opinion Owner]

Because i can.

[aspiegirl_]

Hahaha, yeah yeah, sure✌🏼. Call me ugly, cuck or whatever you want, I don't care, I know I'm not 😂. Anyway, have a beautiful day! And smile

[roland77]

@kim45456 Just block her! 9 male down-votes.

[roland77]

Bah, we need edit functionality! @aspiegirl_ should block you!

[Elle_Woods]

Thank you very much good point (y)
I'm a feminine girl and I've always been the one guy girl , I study at uni and I try my best to have good looks and convenient classy fashion but the Guy I dated ended up ghosting on me because I was "too demanding" just because I had much self-respect and wasn't that "give you all girl" still I was loyal and kind to him he left for a bunch of whores who'd find no problem seeing multiple guys at the same time and who would throw themselves into men's bed easily , If I wasn't confident enough in my own worth I'd say these prostitutes were worthie than me and they are the wifey material not me? Bitches who think like this girl are the reason most men don't commit today , even if they find a classy educated lady , why commit when they can have cheap low self-esteem pussies for free -_-

[Elle_Woods]

Enjoy being a doormat :) and watch classy girls get commitement from guys you date after they decide to settle down , when you end up forever a booty call from guy to another ;) if you don't have self respect don't expect him to repect you

[danny__V]

@Elle. We dont all want submissive women with no self worth. Keep your head high angel.

[Elle_Woods]

@danny__V Thank you Good man ^_^ you made my day , I hope you meet the kind high value woman you deserve , sorry if my language was too strong but I was having a bad day when I wrote this lol

[certifiedalphafemale]

100% agree! I'm glad you wrote this because men should be valued as well! And to all the men who are patient to their women, I just want you to know, you are special and you deserved to be loved in return!

[roland77]

12 up, one female down. :-) And thank you seeing us this way!