Pls dont relate all Latin American with the back words beliefs of your inbred famly, being anti-feminist would mean you belive you should be submissive to me and not aloud to voice your opinion
So your very voice here on this topic is a feminist one,
A d pleas dont blame feminist because the type of guy that ask you out are idots its unrelated.
To me feminism is about equal rights, and also not being forced into gender roles. Are you saying women should be forced to shave their legs and be stay at home moms who only do what their husbands say and be feminine at all times?
No, I'm saying nobody should be forced into anything - neither men nor women, and that people should be comfortable with who they are, which includes gender.
For me the feminist movement is about giving women the choice to do or be whatever they want to without fear of retaliation or suppression. That a woman should be able to choose staying at home or working and not be chastised for her choice. Anti-feminism to me suggests that no, a woman should know her place and always keep her legs shaved, be secondary to men in the workplace, etc etc, and that’s what I take issue with. I’d rather there be a world where anyone can choose what they want to do
Yup. I get that some people take it to the extreme and obviously that’s a problem, but that can be the case with any movement or group or way of thinking. Live and let live is my philosophy
As a Christian I already have the desire to help people, but as a Man I have an additional desire to help women. I see myself as protector and provider, but in a lot of urban environment that is tantamount to misogyny. I don't care how I'm labeled. I will and have continued to help people. I only seek ladies as this term carries the weight of nobility. Feminism only festers undeveloped bitter girls, who refuse provisions and expose themselves to attack.
We tend to be in or from rural areas, but depends on the state. Even after we go to college we are called uneducated, as the indoctrination didn't stick or we resisted.
As a dude, I obviously have very different reasons to be antifeminist but hear hear!
I also had the misconception that antifeminist women would have an easier time dating too but what you said makes perfect sense to be honest, I can’t really blame the guys who assume you to be against them. I say this as someone’s who grew up with a toxic mother who thought hitting her kids makes them respect her. Just for the record, I definitely don’t think all women are like her but it does trigger a fight or flight response if a woman shows the right negative mannerisms. Though this reaction is mostly fixed because I have learned that it’s all in my head it still bad enough that I try to stay out of any girl’s way.
I think what would make you feel better is that, unlike the feminists who have come from a similar situation with men, they want to be proven wrong. If they are anything like me, just giving them the time of day should be enough for them to trust you after a while.
Curious you ask to don't make assumptions that women ar all against you when u write down an essay showing you mysoginistic way of life and how desperate you are from masculine recognition. And probably you are in your early 20... sad.
Sure. I'm a murderer, I shot and wounded 40 people, have raped a million... You're free to think what you want lol. Nowhere in it does it say or did I imply that I would be prejudiced against my own gender. But hey, if you wanna look at it pessimistically just because you don't agree, that's your freedom. Again, feel free to think the things I mentioned too. It won't affect me. Sad that you think it would though...
My own gender? You playing the victim? When u have write and throwing shade to a movement that the only thing we wanna do it's to obtain equality , fundamental rights and be treated like persons? Who has brainwashed you?
KrystaGrym, it's you and women like you who are making the word mysogeny equal a good thing! A dictionary would tell me a mysogenist is a man with a rabid contempt for women, with or without the switchblade in his right hand. A derelict. A deranged psychopath. You know, Ted Bundy. However, the feminist uses the word so often, and directs it to so many normal, well -adjusted, well-liked, and polite people that I now consider it a high compliment when a feminist accuses me of being a mysogenist, and want to be best friends with others who have been so accused. "Glenn, your such a mysogenist!" It's got a nice ring to it...
Well i dont like being called a feminist... It sounds insulting to me. I do as i like... I may have ideals similar to feminism but i hate being called a feminist or someone telling me i have feministic ideals. These ideals are mine and i love by that because i want to...
Sorry but I didn't read past your first sentence. Feminism is not "getting bigger" in fact it's slowly dying off. Most people, both male and female do not support feminism. People have caught on to all the little tricks they use to manipulate and control people.
damn right you don't need feminism. nobody in the western civilized world does. in a world where there are equal rights, feminism has no place. feminism has a place in most muslim and third world societies. not in the western world. it is time for it to finally recognize that equality has been achieved and that they're building new problems that don't exist to legitimate existing.
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Why would you not right for equal rights? I am also not really for extreme feminism but I think you should fight to get the same rights as men in areas where it gives sense like wages etc
In my short period of life i have realize its better to learn from both but stay towards the middle and try just being yourself or better yet be kind to everyone who is kind unto you. For me MGTOW and Femisism are both pretty stupid in some cases. Feminism during the 1900's was very nessacary today however its not at all honestly from what i have seen online.
Let people make their own choices, and People (feminists, incels, people imposing Political correctness) stop imposing their opinions on other people. Most problems will be stopped when such highly Vocal toxic groups will stop : --- suppressing peoples own mind/opinions and impose theirs.
You should check out this lady on youtube. You'd probably like what she has to say. She's also anti feminist. She puts a lot of thing's into perspective and is super insightful.
Meh, I'm not being trick into becoming a slave for women again. You anti-feminist women are simply using new manipulative tactics to get men back as slaves.
Men stay single and jerk off to porn. Dating isn't worth it as most women will just reject you fast because they have tons of options now. See the more options women have the less valued men are.
About your issue not to be treated like everyone else, you are minority an very reare.
It would be easier, if we could recognise you straight away as our life would be much easier...
About mgtow, why they date it is against their believes...
I don't understand them..., It is good counter to feminazi, but in my opinion it is just bunch of guys that get 0 attention from girls and not in to men...
Because I am intellectually driven, and my IQ score is 147 (gotta brag a bit :P ) If I told you what I'm studying and where I got my undergrad degree, you'd want to kill me now lol
https://ibb.co/TY8MYCr That’s my hoodie and banner. Try to find that picture anywhere else on the internet. My bachelor’s is in biochem and pre-med. Now I’m studying neurophysiology.
Used Google's definition. Everything after that, like the things people take too far, etc. is up to each individual. With terms like "rights" and "equality" everybody goes wrong somewhere, so I basically summed up my general view
Yeah, most anti-Feminists (and by that I don't mean you but the actual hardcore ones like most guys on GaG) fail to recognize that Feminism isn't one homogenous hive-mind ideology, but actually just a very broad umbrella term for a vast diversity of different movements and schools of thought regarding gender issues in our society. You do kinda seem to recognize that, but at the same time you still reject it as a whole, which doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to me. At the end of the day it once again breaks down to pure semantics, which is actually getting really tiring to me. The matter of fact, whether you're aware of it or not (my guess is you kinda are), is that you DO agree with a lot of Feminist view points and demands, you just reject the LABEL.
And the reason for that is really sad, because it's basically years and years of successful campaigning by far right movements to manipulate people into false associations with certain terms and concepts. The brilliance of far right groups is that they know extremely well how to use language to manipulate people, because if you control how people talk, you control how they think. And by doing that, they can influence people who are anything than politically far right. I bet you're a fairly liberal leaning person. Yet you, like millions of other young people have fallen for it, not even aware. And I don't blame you for it, this is something very subtle that I too only learned to recognize in the past few years.
So yeah, you can go ahead and call yourself an "egalitarian" and reject the Feminist label. I doubt that this goes too far beyond meaningless semantics. But I hope you're smart enough not to reject anything merely because it has the label "Feminism" on it and actually take a look at what it demands and stands for.
I don't know how aware you are what kind of people are applauding you here in this very thread right now. I don't know if you're aware that a lot of them are heavily influenced by Alt-Right rhetoric, and not few here actually Alt-Right Fascists themselves. This forum if heavily dominated by white supremacists and such bigots, in case you haven't noticed yet. And these are the people applauding you right now. That's not your fault, of course, but there's a reason for it. And I wish you think about that reason. And I wish even more that you don't fall down that rabbit hole.
Thanks for the advice. I'm not here to get applause or whatever; if that was the case I'd prefer it to be from people whose opinions mattered. (No offense to anyone here by that) And as I said, feminism as well as any other broad term that has anything to do with politics nowadays stems into many other things in so many ways. Therefore, some of it I understand being for, such as I mentioned the right to vote, etc. However, I addressed the parts that I don't agree with. Whether you consider the to be the majority of what the term "feminism" entails and whether you say I'm feminist, anti-feminist, egalitarian, etc. that's all at your discretion. I stated what I disagree with and how it affects me.
"The brilliance of far right groups is that they know extremely well how to use language to manipulate people, because if you control how people talk, you control how they think."
In what ways do the far-right control how people talk? Because it seems to me that it's mainly far-left SJW types who seem to want to really control how people talk with hate-speech laws, not the far-right. Some feminists have even campaigned to have criticism of feminism be made illegal.
@Barbaric He has that sentence wrong anyway, since it's backwards. It should be "If you control how people think, then you can control how they talk." As a medical student studying neuro, I can tell you that the limbic system and the cerebellum say noooope lol but I wasn't gonna argue with him on that
" don't know if you're aware that a lot of them are heavily influenced by Alt-Right rhetoric, and not few here actually Alt-Right Fascists themselves. This forum if heavily dominated by white supremacists and such bigots, in case you haven't noticed yet. And these are the people applauding you right now."
some girls have nice husbands who care about them and treat them well but some of surrounded by fool whose mommas did not raise them well and we be like uh hell naw I may by a crazy ass motherfudger but I ain't dealing with this shit
I'm not against feminism I just wanna be a good wife for my husband. I rather stay at home and have the man work. So when he gets back i can take care of him.
Makes total sense to me--very well written. I can't imagine why you'd get any hate for this. Your points seem very well thought through and articulated. I don't see any holes in the logic. Who could disagree with your point of view on this?
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Pls dont relate all Latin American with the back words beliefs of your inbred famly, being anti-feminist would mean you belive you should be submissive to me and not aloud to voice your opinion
So your very voice here on this topic is a feminist one,
A d pleas dont blame feminist because the type of guy that ask you out are idots its unrelated.
To me feminism is about equal rights, and also not being forced into gender roles. Are you saying women should be forced to shave their legs and be stay at home moms who only do what their husbands say and be feminine at all times?
No, I'm saying nobody should be forced into anything - neither men nor women, and that people should be comfortable with who they are, which includes gender.
For me the feminist movement is about giving women the choice to do or be whatever they want to without fear of retaliation or suppression. That a woman should be able to choose staying at home or working and not be chastised for her choice. Anti-feminism to me suggests that no, a woman should know her place and always keep her legs shaved, be secondary to men in the workplace, etc etc, and that’s what I take issue with. I’d rather there be a world where anyone can choose what they want to do
We obviously have different definitions on what feminism is.
Yup. I get that some people take it to the extreme and obviously that’s a problem, but that can be the case with any movement or group or way of thinking. Live and let live is my philosophy
As a Christian I already have the desire to help people, but as a Man I have an additional desire to help women. I see myself as protector and provider, but in a lot of urban environment that is tantamount to misogyny. I don't care how I'm labeled. I will and have continued to help people. I only seek ladies as this term carries the weight of nobility. Feminism only festers undeveloped bitter girls, who refuse provisions and expose themselves to attack.
YES ^ You're the kind of man I would want
We tend to be in or from rural areas, but depends on the state. Even after we go to college we are called uneducated, as the indoctrination didn't stick or we resisted.
As a dude, I obviously have very different reasons to be antifeminist but hear hear!
I also had the misconception that antifeminist women would have an easier time dating too but what you said makes perfect sense to be honest, I can’t really blame the guys who assume you to be against them. I say this as someone’s who grew up with a toxic mother who thought hitting her kids makes them respect her. Just for the record, I definitely don’t think all women are like her but it does trigger a fight or flight response if a woman shows the right negative mannerisms. Though this reaction is mostly fixed because I have learned that it’s all in my head it still bad enough that I try to stay out of any girl’s way.
I think what would make you feel better is that, unlike the feminists who have come from a similar situation with men, they want to be proven wrong. If they are anything like me, just giving them the time of day should be enough for them to trust you after a while.
Curious you ask to don't make assumptions that women ar all against you when u write down an essay showing you mysoginistic way of life and how desperate you are from masculine recognition. And probably you are in your early 20... sad.
Sure. I'm a murderer, I shot and wounded 40 people, have raped a million... You're free to think what you want lol. Nowhere in it does it say or did I imply that I would be prejudiced against my own gender. But hey, if you wanna look at it pessimistically just because you don't agree, that's your freedom. Again, feel free to think the things I mentioned too. It won't affect me. Sad that you think it would though...
My own gender? You playing the victim? When u have write and throwing shade to a movement that the only thing we wanna do it's to obtain equality , fundamental rights and be treated like persons? Who has brainwashed you?
KrystaGrym, it's you and women like you who are making the word mysogeny equal a good thing! A dictionary would tell me a mysogenist is a man with a rabid contempt for women, with or without the switchblade in his right hand. A derelict. A deranged psychopath. You know, Ted Bundy. However, the feminist uses the word so often, and directs it to so many normal, well -adjusted, well-liked, and polite people that I now consider it a high compliment when a feminist accuses me of being a mysogenist, and want to be best friends with others who have been so accused.
"Glenn, your such a mysogenist!" It's got a nice ring to it...
Well i dont like being called a feminist... It sounds insulting to me. I do as i like... I may have ideals similar to feminism but i hate being called a feminist or someone telling me i have feministic ideals. These ideals are mine and i love by that because i want to...
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Sorry but I didn't read past your first sentence. Feminism is not "getting bigger" in fact it's slowly dying off. Most people, both male and female do not support feminism. People have caught on to all the little tricks they use to manipulate and control people.
damn right you don't need feminism. nobody in the western civilized world does. in a world where there are equal rights, feminism has no place. feminism has a place in most muslim and third world societies. not in the western world. it is time for it to finally recognize that equality has been achieved and that they're building new problems that don't exist to legitimate existing.
Why would you not right for equal rights? I am also not really for extreme feminism but I think you should fight to get the same rights as men in areas where it gives sense like wages etc
I addressed that.
In my short period of life i have realize its better to learn from both but stay towards the middle and try just being yourself or better yet be kind to everyone who is kind unto you. For me MGTOW and Femisism are both pretty stupid in some cases. Feminism during the 1900's was very nessacary today however its not at all honestly from what i have seen online.
Let people make their own choices, and People (feminists, incels, people imposing Political correctness) stop imposing their opinions on other people.
Most problems will be stopped when such highly Vocal toxic groups will stop : --- suppressing peoples own mind/opinions and impose theirs.
This was refreshing...
Wouldn't be surprised if you don't get a proposal or two out of this. (ha ha)
I can just see it now...
Let's see, against feminism... check
Doesn't let her legs get hairy... check
You should check out this lady on youtube. You'd probably like what she has to say. She's also anti feminist. She puts a lot of thing's into perspective and is super insightful.
https://youtu. be/RozEFVPDxeg
Hmm just realized the link didn't work. But her name is "Karen Straughan" if you wanted to check out any of her videos
https://youtu.be/RozEFVPDxeg
There was a space between the "period" and the "b". That's why the link didn't work...
Meh, I'm not being trick into becoming a slave for women again. You anti-feminist women are simply using new manipulative tactics to get men back as slaves.
Men stay single and jerk off to porn. Dating isn't worth it as most women will just reject you fast because they have tons of options now. See the more options women have the less valued men are.
Yeah do that, please. More women for me hahah
Nice, there is some women who understands it...
About your issue not to be treated like everyone else, you are minority an very reare.
It would be easier, if we could recognise you straight away as our life would be much easier...
About mgtow, why they date it is against their believes...
I don't understand them..., It is good counter to feminazi, but in my opinion it is just bunch of guys that get 0 attention from girls and not in to men...
Well you don’t need feminism because of feminism. But either way, you shouldn’t suffer for your beliefs, other than academically.
Definitely not suffering for anything academically lol
Intellectually, then.
Still not suffering in either of those areas
How can you tell, if you’re not intellectually driven?
Because I am intellectually driven, and my IQ score is 147 (gotta brag a bit :P ) If I told you what I'm studying and where I got my undergrad degree, you'd want to kill me now lol
Go ahead and tell.
https://ibb.co/TY8MYCr
That’s my hoodie and banner. Try to find that picture anywhere else on the internet.
My bachelor’s is in biochem and pre-med. Now I’m studying neurophysiology.
Or you can just look at the graduating class in biochemistry at Yale University for 2019 and find my picture lol
Great! What do you plan to do with it, besides show it off online.
I'm not showing it off. You asked :)
Meh, your definition of Feminism is very different than mine and that of pretty much every Feminist I personally know. But you do you, I guess.
Used Google's definition. Everything after that, like the things people take too far, etc. is up to each individual. With terms like "rights" and "equality" everybody goes wrong somewhere, so I basically summed up my general view
Yeah, most anti-Feminists (and by that I don't mean you but the actual hardcore ones like most guys on GaG) fail to recognize that Feminism isn't one homogenous hive-mind ideology, but actually just a very broad umbrella term for a vast diversity of different movements and schools of thought regarding gender issues in our society. You do kinda seem to recognize that, but at the same time you still reject it as a whole, which doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to me. At the end of the day it once again breaks down to pure semantics, which is actually getting really tiring to me. The matter of fact, whether you're aware of it or not (my guess is you kinda are), is that you DO agree with a lot of Feminist view points and demands, you just reject the LABEL.
And the reason for that is really sad, because it's basically years and years of successful campaigning by far right movements to manipulate people into false associations with certain terms and concepts. The brilliance of far right groups is that they know extremely well how to use language to manipulate people, because if you control how people talk, you control how they think. And by doing that, they can influence people who are anything than politically far right. I bet you're a fairly liberal leaning person. Yet you, like millions of other young people have fallen for it, not even aware. And I don't blame you for it, this is something very subtle that I too only learned to recognize in the past few years.
So yeah, you can go ahead and call yourself an "egalitarian" and reject the Feminist label. I doubt that this goes too far beyond meaningless semantics. But I hope you're smart enough not to reject anything merely because it has the label "Feminism" on it and actually take a look at what it demands and stands for.
I don't know how aware you are what kind of people are applauding you here in this very thread right now. I don't know if you're aware that a lot of them are heavily influenced by Alt-Right rhetoric, and not few here actually Alt-Right Fascists themselves. This forum if heavily dominated by white supremacists and such bigots, in case you haven't noticed yet. And these are the people applauding you right now. That's not your fault, of course, but there's a reason for it. And I wish you think about that reason. And I wish even more that you don't fall down that rabbit hole.
I'll leave it at that. Take care.
Thanks for the advice. I'm not here to get applause or whatever; if that was the case I'd prefer it to be from people whose opinions mattered. (No offense to anyone here by that) And as I said, feminism as well as any other broad term that has anything to do with politics nowadays stems into many other things in so many ways. Therefore, some of it I understand being for, such as I mentioned the right to vote, etc. However, I addressed the parts that I don't agree with. Whether you consider the to be the majority of what the term "feminism" entails and whether you say I'm feminist, anti-feminist, egalitarian, etc. that's all at your discretion. I stated what I disagree with and how it affects me.
"The brilliance of far right groups is that they know extremely well how to use language to manipulate people, because if you control how people talk, you control how they think."
In what ways do the far-right control how people talk? Because it seems to me that it's mainly far-left SJW types who seem to want to really control how people talk with hate-speech laws, not the far-right. Some feminists have even campaigned to have criticism of feminism be made illegal.
@Barbaric He has that sentence wrong anyway, since it's backwards. It should be "If you control how people think, then you can control how they talk." As a medical student studying neuro, I can tell you that the limbic system and the cerebellum say noooope lol but I wasn't gonna argue with him on that
" don't know if you're aware that a lot of them are heavily influenced by Alt-Right rhetoric, and not few here actually Alt-Right Fascists themselves. This forum if heavily dominated by white supremacists and such bigots, in case you haven't noticed yet. And these are the people applauding you right now."
BINGO! Well said again!
some girls have nice husbands who care about them and treat them well but some of surrounded by fool whose mommas did not raise them well and we be like uh hell naw I may by a crazy ass motherfudger but I ain't dealing with this shit
Lol true 😂
I'm not against feminism I just wanna be a good wife for my husband. I rather stay at home and have the man work. So when he gets back i can take care of him.
Makes total sense to me--very well written. I can't imagine why you'd get any hate for this. Your points seem very well thought through and articulated. I don't see any holes in the logic. Who could disagree with your point of view on this?