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Thank you for writing this. I think feminist should have to wear an armband or something, so we know which women to "treat equally".
Respect to you on that. Just because one guy is a nasty scumbag who fucks woman and throws them on the side of the road, doesn't mean every guy is like it at all.
Where I come from all people in some way or another are base, treacherous and ambitious.
You sound like you're against egalitarianism, not feminism.
are you right-leaning or left-leaning when it comes to politics?
Tend to be more on the left side because I'm not conservative and I'm DEFINITELY not authoritarian. I'm an anarchist and not shamed to say it.
But at the same time, I don't really like either party. That's why I don't register to vote. I don't see a dem or a rep whom I'd want to win office, so I just stay out of it.
by the way, to clarify... When I say I'm not conservative, I mean about the things most U. S. conservatives are for - like child abuse and all that mess. (I'm from the U. S.) Most U. S. republican conservatives are white men, and I have nothing against them, but I'm not white and most of the things they want to hold on to I disagree with.
Some things I AM conservative about, such as culture here, but some things I am a lot more liberal about. That's why I'm not political material lol I can't pick one or the other. Both are positive and negative in big ways.
Umm, you need to vote. The reason why we keep getting stuck with dumbasses like Trump is because lazy people don't vote. And you have no right to complain about anything until you do vote.
@supercutebutt Well regardless of who I would vote for if I chose, there are things about both parties to complain about.
@Yads_Is_Back I'm also in the United States and I don't know anyone who "supports" child abuse.
Perhaps but only one party denies science. The choice is clear for anyone with a brain in their skull.
@supercutebutt A negative generalization. I know plenty of liberals that deny science (the Hollywood "vaccinations cause autism" nonsensical movement as an example). I'm not having a political argument with a teenager. Have fun voting for Biden. π
P. S. I hope you've been enjoying this medically necessary quarantine lockdown, as it is a taste of horrendous socialism that some silly people seem to foolishly and ignorantly crave under normal, non-emergency circumstances. Here's the score so far:
1.) Everyone home polishing their (or their parents') couch with their ass, playing video games, and collecting government checks courtesy of taxpayers;
2.) No toilet paper or other groceries available in stores;
3.) Not going anywhere or doing anything without government overreach and approval.
A perfect socialism utopia. Happy happy, joy joy. I want to continue to live that life after it's medically safe. π
Where do I find women like you? Just wow, you kick ass. Finally you see the world for what it is.
Just one thing, feminism isn't getting bigger it's getting smaller.
Thank goodness. Lol
They are just loud in the media and that makes like if it's getting bigger.
Media isn't the only factor. They are also me2 movement causing a lot of men to go jail for Things that happened a decade ago.
Its nice to see that some women are still proponents of tradition.
Fantastic take. Needed to be said.
Thanks!
MGTOW?
Yeah she is lmfao!
'she' my bad.
@Aislin9 Huh? That doesn't answer my question; nor is that a coherent beginning to a new topic (more of a response to a different question).
She is MGOTW.
@Aislin9 What does that mean?
It's a hate group, a group that hates feminists so much that they make death threats to women on it.
@Aislin9
She literally says in the take that she doesn't date men who've been involved with MGTOW.
I canβt stand MGTOW lol
But you're a legit Nazi.
@Aislin9 Iβm neither white nor German π€·π»ββοΈ
And her I am just trying to figure out what the initials MGTOW stands for; but no one wants to answer my question. :'(
@saffoler No worries, itβs stands for Men Go Their Own Way. Itβs basically men who spread the message of βIβm tired of the way women treat us so now Iβm no longer going to concern myself with them.β
@yads_is_back Thank you.
@RagnarRedbeard
That's just so no one suspects it.
@Yads_Is_Back Nazis never died out, they spread to the US and worldwide (therefore not German). Neo-nazi is a misleading term but the new movements of anti-feminism are funded by these people. Those women you posted are likely paid by them.
@Aislin9 Think what you want because who cares? I don't know you, you don't know me, none of my friends know you, etc. I could argue everything you're saying, but you sound firm on your stance and I kinda have better things to do, so it's not like what you say or think will impact my life. I mean, you're free to think I'm a murderer if you want to.
@Yads_Is_Back Yep, I am free to think what I want and you're free to be a part of this (neo-nazi) movement ignorantly or otherwise.
@Aislin9
It isn't, you don't properly understand the things you're talking about here. You're making false connections. There are so many different groups which are anti-feminist, and there are actually conflicts between all of those groups too. You're mistakenly lumping them all together into one big group.
MGTOW: men who encourage men to avoid relationships with women, marriage, and having children while they talk about how men are treated unfairly in divorce courts, child custody cases, and for the more misogynistic/bitter ones how all women are out to get men. These guys tend not to believe that any systemic change is possible which is why they just avoid serious relationships with women.
MRM/MRAs: men who campaign for men's rights when it comes to divorce, child custody, male victims of domestic violence, anything else which they see as being unfair to men. These people only butt heads with feminists because feminist organisations do all they can to undermine them and the way they see it, they just want feminists to play fair. Other than that they agree with feminists on many things particularly gender egalitarianism and a dislike for traditional gender roles.
Neo-Nazis: much smaller in number, they're more traditional in their views of gender roles. Neither MGTOW nor MRAs would be compatible with their worldviews. What they want is a return to traditional gender roles, for men and women to marry and have lots of white babies. MGTOW and the MRM get in the way of that.
@Aislin9
MGTOW wouldn't accept Yads into the movement because they don't trust women at all. MRAs wouldn't accept Yad because of her ideas on gender roles. Neo-Nazis wouldn't accept Yads because she's Latina.
The idea that all of these groups are funded by Neo-Nazis is also just false. The MRM and MGTOW movements are filled not just with white men but black and Asian men, they're anti-racist. It's just a bunch of different groups with different goals, often in conflict with each other, who dislike feminism. That's all it is.
@RagnarRedbeard Thank you
@RagnarRedbeard Nope the alt-right/(Neo_nazi movement started on /pol/ and after gamergate and has grown into a huge movement of white supremacist misogynists that hate feminists. They are all united in their hatred. I know all about 4chan. Look up alt-right on wikipedia, it lists it all right there. There was a movement by the Nazis to get conservative white males into the alt-right and many fell for it, MAGA/Pepe strung from there. You obviously don't know what you're talking about.
@Aislin9 Neo Nazis have been a thing since long before gamergate. I know they have been around since at least the 90s probably earlier.
@RagnarRedbeard Oh and thats not to say that neo-nazis didn't exist before but the merged with the conservatives, to form the alt-right, MGTOW is a branch of the alt-right, I remember it's origins. Also you're foolish if you think Yads is that person in the picture. When 'she' goes on youtube and starts talking about it, I might believe it. Until then, I won't believe it.
@Aislin9
The Alt-Right did start around then but the real Neo-Nazis have been around long before them. The Alt-Right is also not linked with MGTOW or the MRM. I know what I'm talking about because I've studied all of these groups. I've seen the conflicts between all of them and I understand the different aims of each. Most people who haven't, feminists in particular, tend to lump them all into one group as you're doing.
@Aislin9
MGTOW isn't a branch of the Alt-Right, they were around before the Alt-Right was even a thing.
I addressed that in the last post as I thought it might be confusing saffoler.
@RagnarRedbeard I just addressed that about the Neo-nazis. MGTOW didn't take off until it merged with the alt-right. Look it up. They all merged to form the alt-right.
@RagnarRedbeard I've been on and around people on 4chan since it started, I know how this all went down. I've been fighting those assholes forever.
Oh would you look at that? She's wrong and she knows she's wrong, so she's blocked me. I knew it was coming because she does that quite a lot to people who give her a good argument which she can't counter I notice, and can never admit that she might be wrong.
@RagnarRedbeard I blocked you because I know exactly what type of a person you are, YOU ARE WRONG this is from wikipedia:
"Originally libertarian, the community later began to merge with the neoreactionary and white-nationalist alt-right. MGTOW has been described as misogynistic.[10] The Southern Poverty Law Center has identified the community as a male supremacist group, placing it "on the borders of the hateful incel community""
@Aislin9
What type of person am I other than someone who disagrees with you? I don't belong to any of those groups, just so you know. I studied them because I was just curious to know what they were all about.
Not everything you read on wikipedia is correct. MGTOW has been around for a very long time, much longer than the Alt-Right. Early-mid 2000s. They haven't actually merged. Go to youtube right now and look up MGTOW channels, a very large number of them are black guys. It would make no sense for them to ally with white supremacists would it? Sure, the Alt-Right does attract incels, but they're not the same people.
@Aislin9 The SPLC is a joke they classified the OK symbol as a symbol of hate because some people on the internet thought it would be funny if could get someone to believe that nonsense and the SPLC fell for it hook line and sinker. And I would appreciate it if you weren't condescending towards my intellect. I might not be abreast of the current state of fringe groups; but that has no bearing on my intellectual prowess.
@RagnarRedbeard Oh you're one of those. I should believe you and not wikipedia. LOL
I saw them all merge with my own two eyes, MGTOW was libertarian (I knew the original people) and wasn't even a thing until the alt-right took it over. I saw it all unfold, I know what I'm talking about, you don't.
@RagnarRedbeard People edit things on Wikipedia. You know that, I know that, pretty much everybody knows that. I don't know what either of you are talking about, but her saying I'm for MGTOW when I hate it is kind-of insane. I don't even get why she's trying to make this pointless argument, so if she's chicken enough to block you and then unblock you (lol) then I'll just block her. Again, I don't know anything about what y'all are arguing about, but it's a little annoying and she started it by saying I'm MGTOW lol so I'll get rid of this once and for all
@RagnarRedbeard Some people hate their own race by the way or they don't even understand who is behind their movement.
@saffoler
She always likes to think she's smarter than everybody else, and is never wrong. It's fine, the more people notice that the more she loses credibility.
@yads_is_back
Yeah, everybody knows that, she's being dishonest.
@Aislin9
MGTOW has absolutely nothing to do with race, so the idea that those black guys either hate their own race or are too stupid to know that the MGTOW movement - which has been around since the early-mid 2000s - is run by Neo-Nazi white supremacists, is just nonsense.
@RagnarRedbeard I don't care if she thinks she is smarter than me or not. I just don't want her to think of me as an imbecile; based solely on the fact that I'm less informed on a particular topic.
Omg this Asilin chick thinks sheβs right and the world is wrong. Let people share their opinions wow
@BMWE46M3
How dare you disagree with her? It's obviously only because she's a woman, you misognyist pig.
@RagnarRedbeard no one is a pig but u πππππ
You are a true woman and rare gem in this harsh world!
You should read my mytake.
Why?
You hit the nail on the head
Some will say you're the perfect girl
Now this deserves respect.
men and women are not equal
good mytake :)
Thank you
Yes. Feminism is a bad lifestyle to live.
If that's your story lol...
Well said!