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A PSA to Women: Don't Confuse your Sexual Value for your Relationship Value! (Page 2)
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I feel this is pretty obvious. And it goes both ways! My 'standards' for hookups are also way lower than my standards for relationships. I have to think someone is a decent person to sleep with them, but to date them I have to be in love.
Interesting! So you would be okay sleeping with someone you were attracted as long as you thought they were decent, but you wouldn't want to go on a date unless you were very emotionally attached?
Kinda. I'd go on a first date if I wasn't emotionally attached yet, but I'd only go on a second if there's anything there.
Simply put romantic attraction and sexual attraction are just not the same
I thought guys on GAG would only date girls 18-25 when her sexual market value is the highest. Any age after 25, men grow less interested because sexual market value declines. Apparently this isn't true
@Kenzy009
I don’t date man whores. If you want me to take you seriously as a man worthy of marriage , stop sleeping around.
Thats because you don't listen to what you are told, prefering to be angry about something you dont understand.
@Guffrus
I don’t listen to what perverts say.
You dont even know what a pervert is.
@Guffrus
Why do you think you’re still unmarried at your age? Cuz you’re a low quality guy.
Sure, go for a personal attack if it makes you feel better.
It's not going to help your understanding of the world.
And FYI, I am not at all interested in even emptying my nuts into you never mind marriage.
You should use that as a gauge for your value.
@Guffrus
I don’t date guys who claim they only date women in their 20s. A man who only dates 20 yr olds will not stay with you once you hit your 40s.
Why do you think you’re still single at your age? Saying things like this doesn’t prove you’re a marriage material guy
@Guffrus
I’m 26 by the way.
I dont have to prove anything to you or anyone else.
@Guffrus
I don’t date guys who spend years shitting on older women on here. If your life was happy, you wouldn’t feel the need to spend enormous amounts of time talking shit about others on here
You keep talking about how older women don’t look good, have you ever even considered taking a look at your own face? I wouldn’t date you in a million years , fat old man
@Guffrus
Ugly ass old man constantly talking shit about other women not looking good enough. Why don’t you go stand in the mirror?
If you want to comment on what I have said then quote me but I am not going to address critism of things you imagine that I have said.
Secondly if you are going to try to hurt someones feelings by insulting them you should try to be accurate, I am well aware that I am good looking man.
Also you seem to be failing to grasp the fact that I dont care what you think; you demonstrate repeatedly that you don't have a clue what you are talking about.
You just want to try to hurt me and it isn't working.
So maybe just shut up and fuck off now?
@Guffrus
You go around constantly talking shit about how older women look like shit. Now I tell you that you look like shit , now you can’t handle it?
@Guffrus
When you look like that, no 30 yr old woman would want you either. A 30 yr old woman would have way better prospects than someone who looks like you.
As I have said; quote me.
You dont get to just make things up and then presume to attack me about them.
That isn't how this works.
Also I am handling your critism just fine, you are having no impact on me what so ever, I dont care about you, I dont care what you think, I dont have any respect for you because you can't think properly.
You may as well be a 3 year old telling me that I am stinky poo poo head.
You are nothing to me.
Your words have no meaning.
There is no connection with what you say and reality, so it has no substance outside of your mind.
Rest assured that I am far better positioned to understand my situation and the factors involved.
My situation isn't relevant however, if my situation were any other situation you would still not have a clue what you are talking about.
There is no link between these things.
The reason you are talking about it is because you want to hurt me and that isn't working.
All you are doing is showing anyone who cares to read this thread what a horrible cunt you are.
@Guffrus
That’s what you get. It’s called karma.
Continue talking shit, fat ugly old man
What is that even supposed to mean?
@Guffrus
its really funny how the most unattractive guy on earth would go around GAG talking about how 30 yr olds are undatable.
Let me let you on a wake up call: even a 30 yr old woman is out of your league.
@Guffrus
[The reason you are talking about it is because you want to hurt me and that isn't working.]
it doesn't change the fact that you're still a fat, ugly old man.
@Kenzy009 Women never truly understand that men control access to relationships. They male the mistake of trying to use their metrics as our metrics. A Man will bang anything a womans value is if they can keep one and the majority just can't which is why you see the frustration.
@Vegasrunner
I don’t date guys who sleep around. What is the value of a man whore?
@shaysh87 Not sure why you're sharing this w/ me. Something a lot of women fail to understand is that you're only special to you. You may not date a "man whore" but most women like men that have been w/ a lot of women.
@Vegasrunner
There’s a vast difference between being “experienced “ versus having slept with every girl on earth.
There are tons of guys who are experienced without ever sleeping around
@Vegasrunner
The last guy I went out with , was a huge man whore , I stopped seeing him after the third date, everything else was great until I found out he was a man whore
@shaysh87 Not possible. The only experience acceptable to men is actually banging a women. If a guy can't then he loses credibility amongst other men. Also women hold sexual leverage all the time so sleeping w/ them demonstrates that as a man you understand how to bypass that disadvantage. Finally and a lot of guys dont under this, the only way to learn how to please a woman sexually is to have sexual experiences w/ a lot of women. Women dont like to hear this because it validates that they're only special to them.
@shaysh87 To me it sounds like that's good for him. He can just move on to the next chick. Guys shouldn't invest to much time and energy into one girl. Someone like you is easily replaceable.
@Vegasrunner
A man who had three or four girlfriends over the range of 10 years would be considered experienced.
@Vegasrunner
Inexperienced guys are the guys who never had a girlfriend but just slept around 5 times a year. From my experience, men who have long term relationships tend to be most experienced
@shaysh87 No that is a small number. I've had sex w/ over 250 women in 20 years if a man doesn't at least have half of that body count he's not that experienced in my opinion.
@Vegasrunner
Men in relationships or married men tend to have more consistent sex than men who have to go search to sleep around. This explains why they tend to be more experienced
@shaysh87 How could that be possible? If there in a "long term relationship" they're only get the opportunity to learn from one woman at a time. A guy like me gets to learn from 5-7 women at a time. That's why a lot of guys in relationships struggle when the relationship ends, a man has to continue to practice, how else are they going to learn about women?
@shaysh87 Unfortunately that's false. Majority of married men or men in monogamous relationships actually have less sex. Think about it if you only have one women and she denies sex how are you going to get sexual experiences?
@shay87 That's false. Women attempt to spread this fallacy because they want people to believe in their narrative but a bur a guy w/ one woman rarely has the experience as a guy w/ multiple women.
@Vegasrunner
who do you think has more sex? a married guy who sleeps with a woman in his bed every night / a guy who sees his girlfriend twice a week VERSUS a single guy who goes out every 2 weeks to bars trying to get a hookup? most times, he fails to get a hookup.
@Vegasrunner
I'm an experienced dater, I can tell you from many years of experience that the men who are the BEST at sex tend to be the ones who had multiple long term girlfriends over the span of many years. The guys who sleep around tend to give the worst sex. Because man whores who sleep around tend to treat sex as less intimate or valuable compared to guys who don't sleep around. And typically man whores tend to be more selfish as sex partners - more into pleasing themselves than to pleasing women.
@shaysh87 All of those sound equally lame. The answer would be someone like me who has a pool of women to pick from and a consistent nightly rotation.
@shaysh87 Yea but your experience pales in comparison to mine, and also a lot of that probably has to do w/ the quality of men you're able to attract. Also you're attempting to make your issue someone elses. A guys goal is volume. Your part about being selfish is the first logical point I've ever heard you make. For years I was a selfish lover, and it wasn't until listening to many women that I was able to change and put more focus into pleasuring my partner. However I would have never learned this had I committed myself to only one person. Guys in LTR struggle w/ improving sexually because they're only getting feedback from one person.
@Vegasrunner
You’re just upset about the fact that women don’t like man whores. Women who don’t like sleeping around don’t tend to respect or date man whores. Man whores usually tend to end up dating female whores.
You’re just calling it lame cus you’re hurt by the reality.
@Vegasrunner
Guys who sleep around tend to give the poorest quality sex. They also have less sex than married people or folks in relationships. Who would have more sex? A man who sleeps with a girlfriend / wife in his bed every night or a guy who has to go to hunt for sex twice a month?
@shaysh87 I doubt anyone gets upset over 1 random persons false opinion. Besides as we already established you dont really have enough relationship experience to speak for yourself much less all women. Majority of attractive women all share the same 20% of men. Unfortunately it sounds like you haven't been able to attract that yet, so your experience is from your dealings w/ the other 80%. Those options are lame because no man wants to do either. Married men tend to have the least sex. A guy w/ a girlfriend he sees would probably have a little more and the guy at the bar could have more or less depending on variables. The guy who has the most is usually a guy like me. In the 20% w/ an abundance mentality who has the option of sleeping w/ different women every night.
@shaysh87 At least you're willing to admit you dont know. Have you been married b4?
@Vegasrunner
You write like you have completely no social / dating life outside of GAG. I know this because all the knowledge you have are false rumors from this website. You don’t seem to have any real understanding of the real world
For me it’s 100% true in fact for me the cut off is 21 and that’s pushing it to start a serious relationship. Fuck no way in hell I’d start a serious relationship with a girl who’s 25 maybe when I’m 35 my mind will change but doubtful tbh.
@shaysh87 Lol, no that was funny especially considering people can actually read what you said. I doubt anyone lives in this fantasy world w/ you that you've created for yourself. Small town people usually think they know everything because they're limited to who they can interact w/. This seems to he what's holding you back because none of what you've shared is remotely accurate.
@Vegasrunner
why don't you go cry and throw your tantrum elsewhere?
@Gangactivities911
Most couples are on average 3-4 years apart.
@shaysh87 That seems to be a perfect description of what you do. Why would I throw a tantrum just got out of some pussy? Best kind too 34 years old. You probably just need some more experience.
I’d only start a serious relationship with a girl 18-21 max but I’d def stay with them forever.
@Gangactivities911
You’re just gonna date 18 yr olds then dump them by the time they turn 25 for another 18 yr old. This is what you call a pervert.
@Vegasrunner
I’m not the one who is 44 and still unmarried , ok?
@shaysh87 Yea it's unfortunate they have double standards on you so you can't enjoy life like me. Lot of pressure on older women like you to get married. I'm fortunate I never fell into that trap.
No I’m not and I specifically said otherwise… I think I’m entitled to my wife when is at her most attractive or I don’t want her long term. Seems perfectly fair to me.
@Gangactivities911
From my experience, guys like you don’t tend to ever marry. And even if you do marry , you will never make a decent husband. Not lying. I just know from years of observation
@Gangactivities911 You not entiled to anything you get what you earn. You do make a good point if you accomplish enough you should be selective in the bride you choose. I think marriage is foolish for men, but if you are going to do it make sure to be extremely picky. Choosing the wrong woman can ruin your entire life.
@Vegasrunner
You say marriage is foolish? You shouldn’t even be talking about marriage cus you can’t even get a date. Why are you talking about marriage if there is no woman in sight who wants anything to do with you?
You’re the last man on earth to ever be even thinking about marriage as a possibility. This type of stuff doesn’t concern you
@shaysh87 Lol, interesting now you're pretending as if we've met b4 when you know that's not true? Kinda invalidates all of what you're saying dosent it? You should probably focus on actually getting dates of your own considering your age and how important marriage is to you.
@Vegasrunner
I don't need marriage to have a family. I don't have to be a bitter, sad, lonely old man at the age of 44 with no kids or family. YOU need marriage. I don't.
@Vegasrunner
there are a few things we need to get straight here, women don't need a husband in order to have a family. Men need WIVES in order to have a family. I don't need to date at my age and I will still end up with what I want.
@shaysh87 Lol, If that's true then why are you the only one bringing up marriage?
@shaysh87 Tell yourself whatever you need to help you get through your below average life. Again you're the only one bringing up marriage and you talk about it nonstop. Men certainly dont need wives in fact any man foolish enough to settle for one women gets what he deserves. Men increase value w/ age while women decrease, that's why you see so many women your age panicking to find a man that they can keep.
@Vegasrunner
Mens value decreases as he ages too. Men hit the wall by 35 actually. By 40, he’s typically lost all his sex appeal. The only way ugly wrinkly old men can get women is only if he’s mega rich. Otherwise , a man your age can’t get any women.
@Vegasrunner
Continue dreaming if you think mens value increases with age, it really doesn’t. How many 25 yr old women are dating 38 - 45 yr old men? None. Such examples are very hard to find
@shaysh87 This is why it's good that you visit platforms like this now u an actually learn some uncomfortable truths. Sounds like you're attempting to use a male metric to measure a female one. A man's value is in his resources and ability to provide which peaks around 45-50 womans value is in her beauty which Peaks around 25-29. Take someone like Tom Brady he's 45 his teammates are in their 20's yet he can snatch anyone of their chicks anytime he wanted simply because of the value he's created in himself. A 40 year old woman no matter how successful she is dosent stand a chance in hell of stealing a man away from a 20 something year old. Most people understand this, however I can see why someone w/ your limited experience would struggle w/ this concept.
@shaysh87 Ahh now you're using a female metric to measure aale metric. Men care about banging chicks women care about keeping high quality men. How many 40 year old men are banging 20 something? We'll I love in Las Vegas so including me I know about 45 personally that are. How many 40 something women are hanging 20 year old men? I know none. Skewed to only give my perspective I know, but you asked hope this helps.
@Vegasrunner
Why don’t you take a look at marriage statistics? Most men marry around the age of 33.
If men hit their prime 45-50 then why do vast majority of them marry when they are young?
And I’m not interested in marrying some old grandpa or old fat uncle that I don’t wanna have sex with, just for few bucks.
@Vegasrunner
You’re 44, you must look like shit already. You’re just bitching cuz you know no young chick in her 20-30s want you,
This Wrinkly ugly old man with hair loss and malfunctioning saggy balls is pissed
@shaysh87 Because most men dont know their value. Main reason why 20% of men bang 90% of the women. That's also why women initiate 80% of divorces because they marry guys who are at the low end of their peak value. Overall marriage is foolish for any man, and you once again proved my point.
@shaysh87 I'm just happy that you're sharing your view on this platform. I always try to help guys understand women and your ridiculous statements highlights just how little most women understand about relationships. Because of your limited experience your forced to guess and make up random statements that you hope will make you feel better about yourself.
@Vegasrunner
Continue bitching , saggy old man. I’d marry a handsome young 33 yr old over someone like with saggy balls on the verge of malfunction and hair loss like you any day.
You talk about womne marrying old guys for money. Bitch , you don’t even have money or resources.
Go cry somewhere else
@Vegasrunner
Nobody wants your shitty sperm either, a man your age only can have retarded kids or kids with Health or emotional problems
@shaysh87 there's a handsome man that wants to marry you? Why aren't you married then? Seems odd you're the only one whining about marriage yet you can't find anyone to committ to you.
@shaysh87 Then your dad must have had you when he was in his 90'.
@Vegasrunner
Womne don’t need men in order to have a family. You need marriage more than I do. You can’t have kids without a wife
@Vegasrunner
The only reason why Mr. wrinkly , hair loss / Saggy balls thinks he looks hotter as he gets older is cus he doesn’t have a dating / social life outside of his room.
@shaysh87 Marriage is one literally one of the dumbest mistakes a man can make. Women need to get married because they're only as valuable as the man they can keep.
@shaysh87 Thank you for sharing but I don't know who that is. Perhaps if you did something worthwhile w/ your life you wouldn't be limited to those people.
@Vegasrunner
Why would you keep talking about marriage if no woman in sight wants to marry you?
Continue begging ugly balding old man.
@Vegasrunner
A man’s prime for marriage and dating is 25-35. Not some old wrinkly old man with hair loss Ans saggy balls on the verge of malfunction who thinks he’s hot as fuck cus he’s 44. Not attracted to you
@shaysh87 You're literally the only one that brings up marriage. I realized your obsessed but the reason you can't keep a man is probably due to your inability to listen. I hope you get the help you need
@shaysh87 If that's the case then why is peoples "sexiest man alive 53 years old? In fact 4 out of the past 5 men to win the award have been over 40. Off the women voted as the sexiest the youngest is 25. Meaning the entire world disagrees w/ your nonsense. Unfortunately you're old and have a short shelf life I hope for your sake you look at least half way decent because you dont seem to have anything of value to bring to the table. Meanwhile I think I'm just going to keep banging 20 years olds because that's the advantage men have. By the looks of it sounds like men remain hot all the way into their late 50's while unfortunately women peak in their 20's. You know the sayingen age like wine women age like bread. Gl finding a man that wants to keep old bread w/ no social skills.
@Vegasrunner
Male desirability to women peaks in the late 20s and does not fall below the average for all men until 36.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_attractiveness
@Vegasrunner
Empirical evidence has also accumulated in support of women's preferences for older men, and as you might expect, the data often overlap with those data supporting men's preferences. As this sample of Conroy-Beam and Buss's (2019) review suggests:
Cross-culturally, women report wanting partners who are (on average) 3.5 years older than them.
In online dating, women make the first contact with older men at a greater than rate they do younger men.
Marriage records show that women are marrying men who are older than they are by about 3 years.
www.psychologytoday.com/.../what-we-know-about-age-gaps-in-dating-love-and-marriage
@Vegasrunner
According to pew research, vast majority of marriages in this world have less than a 10 yr age gap.
www.pewresearch.org/.../
@Vegasrunner
Another statistic that shows vast majority of couples are less than 10 years apart.
en.wikipedia.org/.../Age_disparity_in_sexual_relationships
@Vegasrunner
there is overwhelming evidence and research that women do not want men that are over 10 years older than them.
@shaysh87 What age does female disability peak for men?
@shaysh87 Good I"m glad you found a study that validates my point. Ty for sharing.
@shaysh87 Again w/ the marriage nonsense. For someone that can't keep a man you certainly seem obsessed w/ marriage first some reason.
@shaysh87 So you're saying young guys dont date old women. I'm the one that told you that.
@Vegasrunner
There is no evidence that the vast majority of young women desire men much older than them. Your fantasy about young women wanting old men doesn't exist in reality but only in your own imagination. Evidence already proves you wrong.
@Vegasrunner
You've already hit the wall. I'm not attracted to you. Why dont you go home and keep your misery to yourself?
@shaysh97 Seems like the world just gave you overwhelming evidence of the fact that men reach their peak desirability in their 40"s you couldn't refute it so you just chose to ignore it so I'll ask you again. Why are men in their 40's the ones being voted as the world's sexiest men?
@Vegasrunner
[@shaysh87 So you're saying young guys dont date old women. I'm the one that told you that.]
Vast majority of young women don't like to date old men either.
@Vegasrunner
[Seems like the world just gave you overwhelming evidence of the fact that men reach their peak desirability in their 40"s you couldn't refute it so you just chose to ignore it so I'll ask you again. Why are men in their 40's the ones being voted as the world's sexiest men?]
just because an angry, bitter , sad old man who hates the fact that he's old says that men in their 40s are sexiest, DOESN'T MEAN ITS TRUE.
Just take a look at the science , research and data.
@shaysh87 But it's much more common for older men to be w/ younger women right?
@shaysh87 Actually there's no evidence that younger men want older women which scares you because your old and haven't been able to keep a high value man.
@shaysh87 Lol, who cares who you're attracted to unless my life goes really wrong I would never be around someone like you. Literally millions of better choices in the world. Let's be clear no one wants you, which is why you're spending your time crying about not being able to keep a man. I definitely dont want you, so please stop bringing that up.
@shaysh87 Notice you still avoided the question, guess that's what you do when your beliefs are proven wrong. So I'll ask again so the audience can see. Why are 4 out of the last 5 "sexiest men on earth" all over the age of 40?
@Vegasrunner
[But it's much more common for older men to be w/ younger women right?]
I don’t think it’s significantly much more common. I think it’s just that there is more of a bad sigma or weirdness of an older woman dating a much younger man than it is for a much older man to date a much younger woman. Cougars get ridiculed and get much more weird looks than men for dating younger women.
So far Over the past 2 years , I have known 3 women who have married significantly younger men such as 10-20 years younger.
Men who like older women tend to be too ashamed to come forward to admit they chase older women. Same way how there are plenty of men who like thick or overweight girls who never ever come onto the media to brag that they like fatter women.
@Vegasrunner
[Notice you still avoided the question, guess that's what you do when your beliefs are proven wrong. So I'll ask again so the audience can see. Why are 4 out of the last 5 "sexiest men on earth" all over the age of 40?]
If old men were so sexy , then why do statistics Ans records show that the VAST MAJORITY of young women are marrying guys less than 10 years older than them?
Why don’t you answer this question first and foremost?
@Vegasrunner
Young women are marrying young men because women have evolutionary evolved to find men in their 20-30s more attractive. Young men are more likely to produce healthier offspring. Men who are young are stronger , fitter than old men which makes him more capable of defending her and her offspring. Go to a strip club with male strippers , you will never ever see a balding, wrinkly , overweight old man as a stripper. All the male strippers are young handsome men in shape with muscular bodies. Nobody finds old men physically attractive. Sure maybe a few weirdos do, but not the vast majority
Sure you can still attract women with money , but I doubt the vast majority of women would want to marry someone they don’t want to have sex with just so she can have a few extra bucks. A broke desperate gold digger would marry you but I doubt the vast majority of women would
@shaysh87 Oh so you're saying old women are the same as fat women and men would be embarrassed to be seen w/ them?
@shaysh87 Kind of hypocritical for you to beg someone to answer a question when you can't answer one of your own. Men dont like hypocrites do this could be another reason you're single. So I'll ask again why have 4 of the last 5 "sexiest" men on earth all been over the age of 40?
@shaysh87 Marriage is waste of time a stupid for men. Marriage is a way for women to demonstrate their value by showing the world what kind of man they can get to settle down w/ them. I'm part owner of a strip club and the overwhelming majority of the girls in the club date older women. TBH your biggest issue is you simply dont have enough experience. You're out here giving advice but you have no man, no money and haven't accomplished anything of significant value in your life. You cry about people on GAG yet you're always on here. Marriage is your issue, the one thing you've proved is that men want to be married as bad as you say, then why dont any of them want you? You act as if 40 or 50 the end of life which tells me you've never been around anyone successful because overwhelming that's the age where men are at there most successful. You've been given tons of evidence to refute your ridiculous belief but can't handle the truth. That's why your still single. Successful men do not care about marriage, and women are only a form of currency to us. I realize this breaks your delusional heart but that's the truth. It's just unfortunate that you've never been properly taught by anyone that's successful. Women use these platforms to complain about men, but when challenged act is if somehow the mans POV isn't realivent because they're on the same platform as you?
@Vegasrunner
Womne only like older men who are typically less than 10 years older than them. Statistics and data have proven this. Sorry I hurt your feelings again , ugly wrinkly old man
@Vegasrunner
Want me to show you the data again?
@Vegasrunner
I’m 26 and I like older guys but only guys 33 or younger. Not some old aging 44 yr old who still thinks he’s in his prime. Men in their 30s still look good. But 35 is usually when men start looking like shit as every year passes by. By 40, vast majority of men have hit the wall
@shaysh87 Obviously you're not the best person to speak for all women if only because of your limited experience.
@shaysh87 Again? You''be never provided any data on this subject. I told you if you can show data that shows the number of 40 year old woman who get 20 year old men vs the number of 40 year old men who get 20 year old women I'd be interested in seeing that, but you have been unable to do that.
@shaysh87 No one including me is interested in who you like It's not relevant to the convo if we were using our personal experiences then you I would have already proven you wrong as I personally bang women ages 25-49.
@Vegasrunner
Typically the few guys who have kids in their 40s tend to have met their girlfriend or wives prior to the age of 43. That seems to be the latest age where a man tends to marry. After 43, there is a 95% chance a man will never get married in his life.
And usually when guys in their 40s get married , they’re married to a woman in her 30s rather than a woman in her 20s.
You’re wayy past your prime for marriage. No woman would go for you unless you have a lot of money, which you don’t
I wouldn’t go for marriages with large Age gaps because you can’t grow old with someone who is already old. It’s only a matter of time before you grow unhappy being married to a senior citizen. I simply don’t see it as a happy ever after type of marriage
@Vegasrunner
There are a lot of women who regret marrying a guy so much older Ans it’s a mistake they didn’t get to realize until these women got older into their 40s. I’ve seen some of them advise me on here to not marry too much older
@shaysh87 Perhaps what is limiting you is your strange fascination w/ marriage. Is there a reason you feel the need to share w/ me who you "would marry"? Especially considering no one has asked.
@shaysh87 How would you know that? How many women in their 40's have you dated?
@Vegasrunner
does it really hurt you that badly that a woman in her 20s may not go for you?
you're clearly just throwing a temper tantrum on here. No real debate is going on. Just an angry old man trying to argue his frustrations away.
if you're that desperate for a woman in her 20s, I suggest you go buy a mail order bride from the Philippines right away and not wait much longer. Because your chances of finding a 20 something yr old girl for a romantic relationship really slims down as you age.
@shaysh87 I wouldn't be the best person to ask that question because I bang plenty of women in their 20's. I also bang women in their 30's 40's and 50's so I'm not sure if they're any relevance to the question.
@Vegasrunner
I know you don't bang anymore. If you had such a fantastic eventful life, you wouldn't be on here cursing at me when I told you that I'm not attracted to an old man like you.
@shaysh87 It's not possible to "know" what someone you've never met does. Lol, perhaps you're struggling to debate because of your dishonesty. I'll allow you the privilege of engaging w/ me but there's no point of just making up things we both know aren't true. If what you were saying was remotely true you would share it.
@Vegasrunner
Doesn't matter if you call me dishonest because fact of the matter is vast majority of young women do not find old men to be attractive. I'm gonna emphasize "vast majority".
@Vegasrunner
here's a video of a dating coach for men on youtube. here what he says :
[As we (men ) get older, you lose your sex appeal, you ain't as sexy as you once were, you won't attract any women unless you have a lot of money]
skip to 9:35.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlSvmLxrcls&t=626s
@Vegasrunner no a guy is entitled to his wife’s best years. I used the correct word there.
@shaysh87 Lol, it's funny how you search so hard for anything that you believe that justifies your weird beliefs. 100 guys have told you you were wrong but their opion doesn't count but some loser on YouTube outs together a video and it's somehow the truth. I don't mean to be ride but have you ever thought of getting professional help? I mean if your argument was remotely true why would you even need to be telling me this? Why do you care so much about who I have sex w/?
@Vegasrunner
It’s funny how you’re soo in denial cus the truth is just too painful for you to bear
@Gangactivities911
Only thing is a woman in her best years won’t go for a man in his worst years
FACTS…
@shaysh87 Umm the truth is the best thing to hear because I truthfully bang chicks in their 20's so why wouldn't I want to hear that?
@Vegasrunner
so what? there are a lot of men who would bang a fat lady, it doesn't mean he wants to marry her. Don't confuse your sexual value for your relationship value. You don't have to be very attracted to who you have a one night stand with.
@Vegasrunner
i would sleep with a guy in his 40s but i would never date or marry him. I've had sex with guys from 18 to 40.
@shaysh87 I dont but you seem to.
@shaysh87 Then you proved my point TY. That's all I would want. Not interested in the relationship part.
@Vegasrunner
even the mens dating coach (linked above) said that men lose sex appeal as they age.
i don't think there's anyone who agrees with you that old guys get more appealing with age.
@shaysh87 there's no one that agrees w/ you that 40 year old women have a better chance of getting a 20 year old man verses a 40 year old man w/ a 20 year old woman but that hasn't stopped you from believing it. So you're saying that if one person on YouTube says something it's true?
@Vegasrunner
40 yr old women don’t crave 20 yr old men like 40 yr old men crave 20 yr old women. It’s not an appropriate comparison
@shaysh87 Probably crave them at the same level. From the start I've told you that you were wrong about the level that 40 yr old men want 20 yr old women. Is it cool to bang a 20 something but it's just as cool to bang a 30, or 40 something. I told you I like my women ranging 28-35 that's when they're their best. I mean last night I had a date w/ a 44 year old but I cut it short to pick up a 38 yr old who I knew was a sure thing so it's all relative. The one part that's not debatable is the number of 40 yr old women getting 20yr old men vs 40 yr old man getting 20yr old women. I realize you live in a 1 stoplight town but if you go to Miami LA, Vegas or anywhere in the real world all your going to see is hot 20yr olds w/ 40 something yr old men.
@Vegasrunner
actually this men's dating coach explains why women never hit the wall. he clearly states that a woman will always be able to bang more than a man , at any age. A woman would be able to get sex from older or younger man at any age.
Just watch the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlSvmLxrcls&t=1s
@Vegasrunner
watch 8:45 to the end of the video
@Vegasrunner
[ Is it cool to bang a 20 something but it's just as cool to bang a 30, or 40 something. I told you I like my women ranging 28-35 that's when they're their best. I mean last night I had a date w/ a 44 year old but I cut it short to pick up a 38 yr old who I knew was a sure thing so it's all relative. The one part that's not debatable is the number of 40 yr old women getting 20yr old men vs 40 yr old man getting 20yr old women. I realize you live in a 1 stoplight town but if you go to Miami LA, Vegas or anywhere in the real world all your going to see is hot 20yr olds w/ 40 something yr old men.]
I don't care if you went on a date with a 44 yr old woman. I still wouldn't be attracted to a 44 yr old man. I still would pick a 30 yr old man over a 44 yr old man.
@shaysh87 I'm glad you feel the need to share that but I dont care who you date. Date who you can.
Yes women always control the sexual marketplace at any age this is true however this becomes less true with age and regardless men at any age control the marriage market. So go ahead sleep with whoever u want but keep in mind if ur goal is marriage or long term monogamy of any kind that is not in women’s ballcourt. Men have all the power there and they get even more of the power there with age. Just so we’re clear here.
Those are good points. I’d also like to add that a girl’s dating pool is made even lower than you led on due to men’s general disinterest in relationships and even lower interest in finding love.
So, like another user said, a girl can be perfect in every way and it will not keep a guy from just using her for sex.
No but it will widen her pool of men who want serious
The men who are interested are usually in the friendzone though.
Either that or trying to weed through their own stuff
What dating is like for men ↗
@MrtoddsWildRide My guy, the 'friend zone' is a myth concept. "They're not games to be won. They have their own minds & hearts, & they don't owe you a relationship just because you're attracted to them. And if you don't value friendship with a woman, you don't deserve anything beyond that anyway."
@Shamalien It widens the pool of users even more. Average-ish women have the biggest pool of serious love interests. When you're "perfect", only entitled people are interested.
@Hedera no it’s not. I’m sure you have a guy that you arnt interested in dating but just wanna be friends with… I can give you likes to well known female channels that said they do it… Thing is guys that want relationships arnt interested in you as a friend and getting less then you want is insulting. When a woman want a man to commit but he only fucks her she gets offended well guess what… friend zones the male version of one night stands for women.
Let's see! It's been observed that 1 in 3 children born to UK mothers her husband is NOT the father. A bit over half of ALL marriages in the western world end in divorce, almost 80% of these started by the wife! With these stats, maybe it is time to start changing how we give relationship advice? Folks, this current bullshit ain't working!
No one's gonna wife up a slut except a desperate dude with no prospects. That's just facts kids. You want a man you play nice. If not you always got the sorry sack. But the moment another option presents himself he's gone too. Enjoy.
It happens all the time. What's more uncommon is that men don't wife up sluts.
Not really. The USA, UK, France, Germany, New Zealand, and Australia aka slutvilles don't make you the larger world.
*up the larger world
I mean, it's the same for guys as well. Not all the women who would bang you would want to date you.
That can happen, but this advice is 1000x more relevant for women. A guy will bang anything if it’s easy enough, unless he has a strong spiritual will, but if a guy can bed a woman, he can probably date her
Speak for yourself, much? Not all guys are like you.
I’m not speaking for myself, I can actually resist sex and I am telling you the vast overwhelming majority of men cannot
@Shamalien
i'm friends with a lot of guys. a lot of guys are really desperate for sex. they will bang anything including a fat chick. but when it comes to dating, they usually go for acceptable looking women. Men care much more about looks than women.
@shaysh87 yeah that’s my point thanks for helping me make it, not sure why u had to insult me
@Shamalien "I can actually resist sex and I am telling you the vast overwhelming majority of men cannot"
See, you make guys sound like mindless animals who can't control themselves around women and only think of sex all the time, which is a load of BS and is the kind of excuses rapists use (not calling you a rapist, just how many times have you heard 'her clothing was provocative, she was clearly asking for it' ).
Pretty much all the guys I know don't just go around banging chicks will-nilly and have standards (whether those standards are personality or appearance-based, usually a combo). I dunno, maybe the people I hang around with are just not trashy human beings?
You make it sound as though all the women on the hook-up scene are looking for a long-term partner when most of them are just chicks in their 20s and early 30s fooling around and having some fun (like a lot of guys who do the same).
Good god. Allow me to rephrase: cannot resist sex when OFFERED WILLINGLY. Jesus. You reveal much about your mindset through how you choose to interpret my words
@Shamalien So you're saying most dudes will band ANY chick that comes up to them and offers sex? Age/appearance/wealth/marital status whatever?
@Hedera
Due to the prevalence of culture of casual sex nowadays, sex is really not a sacred thing as we saw it as in the past. Virginity isn't either. But no man will ever refuse a sex offer from a woman. Men are way more desperate for sex than a woman is.
@Shamalien
i never insulted you
Hmm maybe? I don't think it's nearly as relevant. Imagine two circles over each other. For guys, the circle of "I'd sleep with that girl" is MUCH bigger than the "I'd have a relationship with that girl" circle. Like imagine a 10 foot circle on top of a 5 foot circle for example. My girlfriend and I did an experiment with Tinder and made her a profile saying she wanted casual sex and we both looked at the results. She had 700 likes within a few days, ranging from very ripped guys to chubby slobs.
Meanwhile I would very much say that if a girl will hookup with a guy, she would *usually* be game to date him.
@Opinion owner ,
The fact is it’s extremely hard for men to even get any sex nowadays. Men have to put in a lot of work and wait time in order to get sex. Womne don’t have to look too far to get sex. In fact most women have men begging them for sex
Another fact is , guys get much more delighted when a girl is interested in them versus vice versa. This is because guys typically never get any attention from women or any girls liking them. Men are used to doing all the pursuing. So typically men would date absolutely anyone unless she is just plain ugly. Many guys would even date a chubby overweight girl if she showed any type of interest.
The only exceptions to these rules are if the guy is extremely good looking which doesn’t encompass most guys
@Opinion owner
Guys would stick their dick into anything that is living and breathing. They’re desperate. They would even fuck a cat or dog if they were desperate enough.
Glad to see some people still talking sense in this world. It's sad young women are thinking of casual sex instead of waiting for marriage
Didn’t read all of that, but read enough of it to get a general feel for the entire take.
I agree with a lot of it.
This is a good mytake a lot of good advice! Lately I've been chooing number 4 lol.
I think a lot of people with a high ego needed this post
there are so many women i would bang but never date. they forget this
it's especially bad for them after 30 as their relationship value goes down but not necessarily their sexual value
Are you saying inexperienced virgins are not the best to have a relationship with?
No. I'm saying that some women don't realize--their sexual market value is not the same as their relationship market value. AKA girls can hookup with hotter guys than they could actually get dates with.
You said younger inexperienced women need to realise that...
Correct. Younger women who are more inexperienced about dating need to realize--their pool of potential hookups is not the same as their pool of potential relationships.
Put simply if you made a dating profile and said "looking for casual!" the amount of matches you get would be a lot larger than if you made dating profile saying "looking for a serious relationship that leads to marriage." It's not an insult, it's reality.
I have attracted many 6' tall guys who wanted to marry me.
Also when you say self improve does it mean improving the looks as that's what most guys care about?
Physical and mental/personality improving, yes. Such work out and get in shape, or improve your social skills, or your dress style, or deal with personal issues that would be baggage/red flags in dating, etc.
What if someone wouldn't date to marry because of a factor I can't change like my race?
Then you gotta shrug and move on. Data from Okcupid, if I recall, has shown that preference for dating people of your own race has actually gone up, not down, over the last decade.
What if I like someone different from my own ethnicity more? What if I am more attracted to certain features which are more common among a certain race?
Well, then either try to meet guys in your favored race who would date or marry your race, or give up on that idea.
Haha. Relationship samationship. If she's not DTF there is no relationship. PERIOD.
Well duh. Mens hookup pool is larger than their dating pool also.
Actually, it is not.
@EmbraceThePain
How come?
@Pohjolan Yeah see? You'll find a lot of chicks who are down for a bit of fun but aren't looking for anything long term. A lot of dudes like to fool around in their 20s before settling down later, and a lot of chicks are the same. Nothing wrong with it as long as both parties are aware of it.
@Hedera yeah but there’s also a lot of men who are actively looking for a relationship in their 20s unlike most women. In fact most 20yr old men are looking for a serious relationship. More young men than young women are looking to settle down. That’s how I am. But now at 26 I’m really not looking anymore at least not with women my on age. I will not start a serious relationship with a woman over 21 that’s weird and gross to me. So do not make this assumption that all young men are not looking for anything serious cuz that’s actually far from the truth.
Nowadays, women have to be a slut to get a relationship with a guy of equal value. This advice is dated.
W. t. f?
@bamesjond0069 Yeeeeah. Not understanding that one either🤨
@ManOnFire Lol, I speak Womanize what she is saying is "I can't get a man that a really like unless I give up sexual leverage and I dont want to give that up because I will need that if I'm going to have a chance to keep a guy that will impress my friends"
@Vegasrunner yeah but its still wrong. She can't get a man she thinks is "equal value" because what she calls "equal value" is actually far out of her league. Thats the issue.
@Vegasrunner I was thinking that must've been it.
the only women who have to be "sluts" to get in a relationships are those who believe that one night of sex is a precursor to a relationship. and why am I not surprised that you are 30-35 since after all its millennial women who tend to have this type of mindset the most
@bamesjond0069 As a rule of thumb men typically date down so you're probably correct but I can't judge someone I dont know anything about.
@Vegasrunner you're already buying into a dumb narrative. Date down in class? Sure. Date down for casual sex? Yes. But for a serious relationship men want someone equally valuable however not equal. Men and women are different. A rich man and a gorgeous virgin are closer in value than a rich man and a rich woman. However feminists want to pitch some gorgeous virgin waitress as low value.
You certainly need to bring something to the table, sounds like you know where your skills lie.
That's why so many women claim they are looking for love when they get older, after pole jumping in their 20's.
When you don’t have the nuts to post your trolling under your real name
If I post anon and the people I have blocked can post, then the amount of people who may read it is a lot bigger.
Women have to be told this? Isn't it kind of obvious?
Makes a lot of sense, hopefully a lot of women will see this and understand