It's a well known fact that the vast majority of women go after assholes in their youth and only want nice men when they are much older, less desirable, mentally fucked up in the head and are now looking for a beta provider (aka retirement plan).
As for women the most attractive professions is law enforcement, fire fighters, military, and things like that. NOWHERE on the list does it say career criminal or deadbeat
The so-called Bad Boys have and use personal wealth with more style and panache and it is probably the lucre that is providing the charm not the lack of conscience
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Actually, I am a sucker for cocky arseholes. It's a challenge to make him want me only. It never worked lol and for the record, I am into other types too! But the keyword is always "don't be too available= be a challenge"
Ugly truth but kudos for honesty. For every girl who admits this there are at least 10 others who lie to others (and themselves) that they’re not like this.
But just remember miss anon that when (not if) the assholes screws you over it’s on YOU. You saw the writing on the wall. You made your bed so now lay it it.
The only thing worse then women chasing assholes is when they predictably get screwed over they look for f*cking shoulders to cry on. The most insidious outcome is that’s usually a nice guy’s shoulder. If there was any justice in this world it would be legal for a “nice guy” to backhand a girl who tries that bs. That’s what she really deserves for insulting him like that.
@globetrotter22 No worries, I know it's on me. If you want some more honesty, these cocky arseholes were not really bad in a way, they never led me on, they were honest from the start, not looking for anything. I really don't blame them at all. I knew exactly what I was getting into,
I like the take-charge attitude of the bad boy because nice guys don't usually plan or initiate anything. I am looking for a mixture. Nice guy in morals and habits but assertive and masculine in other areas. This is probably why I am single.
Not bad, a little incomplete, but it bad. Nice guys, and girls, get used and abused all the time. The trick is to be a nice person yet not let anyone push you around.
I believe that’s referred to as porcupine pacifism, I. e. there will not be any aggression originating from me, and so we can be friends, we can be strangers, but if you come at me you’re leaving with a few extra holes.
I think it’s more of an evolutionary trait. “Nice” is a weakness. Nice doesn’t advance you in this world. When someone refers to a nice person, no one thinks of masculinity.
I mean call it nice or call it kindness. a lot of these guys that think it is a weakness are not actually good people. It's an act. True kindness comes from a rich spiritual depth which comes from recognizing love and beauty in things. In fact people who are kind can become very unkind if someone is being ugly and that is part of it.
Nice is not a weakness. Cruelty is a weakness. Maculinity has got nothing to do with being nice or not. Your mentality is degraded. I am nice. My dick is bigger than yours amd I bet ill beat the shit out of you.
You are trying to justify your spiritual failire as a human being as a certain superior toughness. Its not. Forexample im nice to everyone and makes life great but if I end up being nice to a psychopathic narcissistic person, they think im sucking upto them. I've learned to deal with these trashy people like the failire garbages that they are
Women are not objects to be obtained and consumed by men. And frankly, you’re giving me second-hand embarrassment by your implication that the only way to obtain a woman is through manipulation tactics and traps that ultimately leave them worse off than they originally were. (Exactly what fishing is)
Ever heard of an analogy? Stop thinking im saying women are objects. Im saying that women don't know how to attract other women. You ask the guy that knows how to. This flew over your head lol
You're using your feelings here and not actually looking at the point of the analogy. Why would i ask a woman that has no actual clue how to attract other women when i could ask the man that has skill and experience attracting women?
"nice guys" that complain are usually guys that use their nice behavior as a transaction. The other side are guys that are actually nice guys, they just need help to improve themselves, find interesting hobbies, have goals, be in decent shape, improve confidence, be financially stable, dress better, improve hygiene, etc
No... you don't. You see women "whining" about inequality, sexism, and the government taking away reproductive and atomically rights... while men whine about not being able to get laid...
Exactly... so I think those "nice guys" should take a step back and realize whining about that makes them even less attractive because women have more important things to worry about
They also think of things in black and white, and human relationships are more complex than that. It's like they can't fathom of being a genuinely nice guy that a woman can feel safe with, while also being a guy that can turn a woman on...
oh dating and getting laid are two different things. For example I can see someone as sexually appealing and have not interest in building a relationship with (aka dating) them. I think that train of thought is where some people get confused. Just because a person may find you physically attractive doesn't mean they want do build a relationship with you. A lot of that boils down to the psychological and social differences between how men and women not only process information differently but also how society views them.
Well of course, they are different. But the guy you want to date, is usually also a guy you find sexually attractive. That's why I included everything, some of these guys only care about getting laid, some want a relationship
I get you, I just think they need to help themselves inside and out, and leave the self entitled victim complex. Every thing else will follow, if you're a nice attractive guy that just goes about things normally, there will be many chances to get laid, and many chances to date and have a relationship
Well there are so many traits they can work on, but you're right, nice isn't a character trait. They can be kind, adventurous, generous, ambitious, etc
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It's a well known fact that the vast majority of women go after assholes in their youth and only want nice men when they are much older, less desirable, mentally fucked up in the head and are now looking for a beta provider (aka retirement plan).
This guy perfectly sums up how female operate in the dating game.
https://youtu.be/_U3wVvv3Dtc
Is it a fact? Or just something that fits up with your world view? You never dated a women you ended up breaking up with?
@Lookingforthetruth This is why I like Darius. He always points to reality.
As for women the most attractive professions is law enforcement, fire fighters, military, and things like that. NOWHERE on the list does it say career criminal or deadbeat
The so-called Bad Boys have and use personal wealth with more style and panache and it is probably the lucre that is providing the charm not the lack of conscience
Actually, I am a sucker for cocky arseholes. It's a challenge to make him want me only.
It never worked lol and for the record, I am into other types too! But the keyword is always "don't be too available= be a challenge"
Ok good you're honest
Ugly truth but kudos for honesty. For every girl who admits this there are at least 10 others who lie to others (and themselves) that they’re not like this.
But just remember miss anon that when (not if) the assholes screws you over it’s on YOU. You saw the writing on the wall. You made your bed so now lay it it.
The only thing worse then women chasing assholes is when they predictably get screwed over they look for f*cking shoulders to cry on. The most insidious outcome is that’s usually a nice guy’s shoulder. If there was any justice in this world it would be legal for a “nice guy” to backhand a girl who tries that bs. That’s what she really deserves for insulting him like that.
@globetrotter22 No worries, I know it's on me.
If you want some more honesty, these cocky arseholes were not really bad in a way, they never led me on, they were honest from the start, not looking for anything. I really don't blame them at all. I knew exactly what I was getting into,
Well suit yourself. But don’t be surprised when things don’t work out the way you thought they would.
I find bad boys to be immature and weak minded. Very unattractive.
I like the take-charge attitude of the bad boy because nice guys don't usually plan or initiate anything. I am looking for a mixture. Nice guy in morals and habits but assertive and masculine in other areas. This is probably why I am single.
Of course not! That's why they're all dating or married to assholes and none of us nice guys can even get a girl to look at us twice!
It’s interesting that you would put yourself into that category
Why not? I am!
Not bad, a little incomplete, but it bad. Nice guys, and girls, get used and abused all the time. The trick is to be a nice person yet not let anyone push you around.
Exactly, don't be a "nice guy" just be kind.
I believe that’s referred to as porcupine pacifism, I. e. there will not be any aggression originating from me, and so we can be friends, we can be strangers, but if you come at me you’re leaving with a few extra holes.
I think it’s more of an evolutionary trait. “Nice” is a weakness. Nice doesn’t advance you in this world. When someone refers to a nice person, no one thinks of masculinity.
and the words bad or boy aren't really associated with masculinity either... how ever kindness is universal
If the price I have to pay for "advancing in the world" is to become a horrible person, then I'd rather be a poor outcast.
I mean call it nice or call it kindness. a lot of these guys that think it is a weakness are not actually good people. It's an act. True kindness comes from a rich spiritual depth which comes from recognizing love and beauty in things. In fact people who are kind can become very unkind if someone is being ugly and that is part of it.
@Subarugirl You don’t think the word “boy” is associated with masculinity?
Nice is not a weakness. Cruelty is a weakness. Maculinity has got nothing to do with being nice or not. Your mentality is degraded. I am nice. My dick is bigger than yours amd I bet ill beat the shit out of you.
You are trying to justify your spiritual failire as a human being as a certain superior toughness. Its not. Forexample im nice to everyone and makes life great but if I end up being nice to a psychopathic narcissistic person, they think im sucking upto them. I've learned to deal with these trashy people like the failire garbages that they are
Meh, maybe you just haven't met the right narcissist yet :)
Never knew the Nice guys finish last related to sports like American football. Thank you for your history lesson.
They want "bad boys" that they can convert. And they're also "exciting" as women tend to get "bored" easily it seems. "Good guys" are boring!
Women just sort of follows what society thinks is acceptable as cool and attractive. Nice isn't acceptable and is seen as a detracting character flaw.
I think you mean people... people in general do that.
not all women
but a lot really do go for assholes.
So I've had to dial up the asshole levels a bit to keep a girl interested.
That’s called manipulation
It's called playing the game.
There's no deception involved.
It's like when girls push a specific persona to attract men.
It's just part of the game.
Bruh it's really the only way to get young women to like you. Apart from being rich and really good looking.
You don't ask a fish how to catch fish. You ask the fisherman
Women are not objects to be obtained and consumed by men. And frankly, you’re giving me second-hand embarrassment by your implication that the only way to obtain a woman is through manipulation tactics and traps that ultimately leave them worse off than they originally were. (Exactly what fishing is)
Ever heard of an analogy? Stop thinking im saying women are objects. Im saying that women don't know how to attract other women. You ask the guy that knows how to. This flew over your head lol
@YungBahlr yes they are objects. anything i can touch is an object
@YungBahlr Jesus Christ, learn what an ANALOGY is.
It’s a shit analogy if it doesn’t hold up the slightest scrutiny. That’s my point
@YungBahlr it does hold up to scrutiny. you didn't even scrutinize it. you just pretended it wasn't an analogy
do you even know what scrutiny is?
If these two dudes get it, how could it be a shitty analogy?
Because equating women to prey is shitty and says volumes about how you view women
You're using your feelings here and not actually looking at the point of the analogy. Why would i ask a woman that has no actual clue how to attract other women when i could ask the man that has skill and experience attracting women?
@Subarugirl that's responding to the analogy, not the point
Guy's; You seriously know that you're in trouble when a girl throws you on the bed and Announcing that she is you're her bitch LMFAO
I had a woman once tell me that she likes the "thug" in guys... and that if she ever ran into a nice guy, she would "tear him to pieces."
Congratulations?
Thank you! Of course, that was my last date with her...
Women are attracted to handsome and rich men.
Personality is secondary. If she doesn't find him arousing she won't be interested. Doesn't matter if a guy is good or bad.
What really matters is genetics and wealth.
They’re into HOT GUYS that tend to be bad
Lol, women love men that have a certain look and status, nothing to do with being nice or not.
oh and men don't have a certian look they go for?
Didn't say that, it's just that there's not a bunch of "nice girls" whining about it lol
"nice guys" that complain are usually guys that use their nice behavior as a transaction. The other side are guys that are actually nice guys, they just need help to improve themselves, find interesting hobbies, have goals, be in decent shape, improve confidence, be financially stable, dress better, improve hygiene, etc
No... you don't. You see women "whining" about inequality, sexism, and the government taking away reproductive and atomically rights... while men whine about not being able to get laid...
Right we call those mentally stable well balanced human beings
Exactly... so I think those "nice guys" should take a step back and realize whining about that makes them even less attractive because women have more important things to worry about
Many of those guys also ignore women that aren't a 9/10 looks wise, but could be compatible personality wise
Absolutely,.. like focusing on how to be a better person, how to be kind, and a well rounded well adjusted human being.
They also act like women have no difficulty with dating, women have so much to worry about, such as safety, and men seeing them only as a sex object
They also think of things in black and white, and human relationships are more complex than that. It's like they can't fathom of being a genuinely nice guy that a woman can feel safe with, while also being a guy that can turn a woman on...
oh dating and getting laid are two different things. For example I can see someone as sexually appealing and have not interest in building a relationship with (aka dating) them. I think that train of thought is where some people get confused. Just because a person may find you physically attractive doesn't mean they want do build a relationship with you. A lot of that boils down to the psychological and social differences between how men and women not only process information differently but also how society views them.
Well of course, they are different. But the guy you want to date, is usually also a guy you find sexually attractive. That's why I included everything, some of these guys only care about getting laid, some want a relationship
Of course but the main point is that just because you find someone sexually attractive doesn't meant you want to be in a relationship with them.
I get you, I just think they need to help themselves inside and out, and leave the self entitled victim complex. Every thing else will follow, if you're a nice attractive guy that just goes about things normally, there will be many chances to get laid, and many chances to date and have a relationship
Well nice is superficial, kind would be more accurate.
Well there are so many traits they can work on, but you're right, nice isn't a character trait. They can be kind, adventurous, generous, ambitious, etc
That’s a valid point