+1 yWe had an exchange on this site which was hilarious, you obviously are not just attractive but have a fun personality so it's not you in your natural relaxed state.
I am just going to throw out a theory that may or may not apply but I've encountered situations where I have decided not to pursue really hot girls; and they told me I was the first person to "reject them." The reason why was because of what I sensed as a mixture of anxiety, high expectations and lack of patience. In other words, they were getting insecure and seeking something to make them secure and what they were not doing was (1) being present and enjoying the moment (2) I didn't feel they were attracted to me as much as a concept of being together with someone "In love with the idea of being in love" and (3) the experience feels very impersonal.
This scenario has happened to every girl and many don't understand what just happened. However, imagine being the guy... she doesn't know you (at least that's how the guy will feel) and therefore the guy will not feel it is genuine and more about them than you. As a guy you feel that it will be impossible to make her happy because the expectation was so high and so rapid, before getting to know you, and you even though she thinks she is not being unappreciative about whatever is happening (a date for example) she doesn't feel present which can be interpreted as "being with me now is not good enough for her" and I know, having 3 sisters, this is just a huge miscommunication however it is all fueled by "looking for love and acceptance vs. Being present and open to options" and maybe only little pieces of this applies to you, but a guy and a girl can always sense this energy from one another even if they can't articulate it.02 Reply- +1 y
Just being you and relaxed and patience is your solution. You don't want to dive into a relationship anyway; if you are you, not seeking a goal or trying to look for clues and stressing about where a relationship is going, overthinking and over analyzing, just relax as you do around your girlfriends and be you; mr right will find you before you know it
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I get what you're saying and I agree with all the points and maybe I am doing all these things but 1. I am into these guys, not the idea of them. 2. This isn't a few dates in. This is 5 - 7 - 8 months down the line. We've established something - even if it's not a set in stone thing but I feel part of this persons life and then they reject me, that's why I'm so hurt and pissed off about it. I get drawn in when they act like they like me, tell me some bullshit about being 'beautiful' or whatever and then they pull away. I am not forcing anything on anyone but at the same time can you blame me for wanting something more?
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+1 yYou are obviously pretty enough to be girlfriend material judging by your profile picture, so it won't have anything to do with looks. Face, anyway.
That leaves a few things. If the problem is on your end, it will be either your personality or your mannerisms, but the problem could very well be on the other end, meaning that either you are looking for the wrong guys, the guys you like are at an age that they aren't looking long term, or they are not able to see the 'real you', which is probably a joint problem having to do with both presentation on your part and perception on theirs.
It can be difficult to give a solid answer when you are only able to hear from one side of the equation - you hear a lot of questions on here about people that worry about being single and describe themselves as being smart, beautiful, funny, kind, loyal, successful, fun and outgoing... and so part of the problem is clearly that their vision of themselves doesn't match the way other people see them, because if they were all of those things they wouldn't have the problem that they have. Maybe they get really clingy really fast, maybe they have some annoying quirks, maybe they get painfully jealous, maybe they get pouty when they don't get their way, maybe they are rude to waiters, maybe they never have anything interesting to say, or constantly cut you off in a conversation, maybe they don't have any interests or passions of their own or any strive towards personal growth. There could be tons of reasons why someone ends up rejected, a lot of them falling through the cracks that a person usually self-presents.
You are definitely not alone is suffering from a lot of rejection though.210 Reply- +1 y
I know I'm not alone but I really feel like everyone I know is in a relationship or is with someone and I'm not. I spent all last year being rejected and I really really didn't want to go through it again this year. Clearly i am not something someone wants long term. I am just sex and nothing more. That's all I will ever be to anyone. Thanks for the insight.
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I promise you that it will not be all that you ever are to anyone.
When I went through my 20s, there were a lot of girls that I knew that felt very similar to you. They had personalities or quirks that made it harder for them to find guys wanting long term relationships in their early 20s. And a lot of them did end up feeling a lot of despair about the situation, and some overtly made the claim that they would be single forever.
Not a single one of them remained single forever though. They all found someone, though some took longer.
Something to keep in mind is that the prefrontal cortex of the brain doesn't fully finish development until around the age of 30. And that part of the brain is the main driving force for long term planning and the ability to put off immediate pleasure for things that build more slowly over time. The way guys hormones work, a lot of them have a very hard time properly planning long term until that part of the brain is finished. - +1 y
I know it sounds shitty to say "have patience" when you've been dealing with an extended period of difficulty, but it really will change over time as the guys around you start finishing their brain development and start becoming more able to look further into the future.
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If you want to pm me, I can try to analyze what the problem might be in more detail.
Otherwise the only real advice is to have patience as it will change over time, you just have to find the person that is going to click with your personality. - +1 y
i dont think the problem is where you think it is. The problem is you have bad self esteem and you're trying to get validation from men and you're trying to fill some kind of void, but no matter how awesome and smart and cool you are, you have to fix yourself before getting in a Relationship. DOnt look at relationships as something you have to do, its ok to besingle and its ok to take some time to find yourself first :) i dont see why you're in such a hurry to date someone and feel their approval
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@coolgirl19 I'm not in a hurry. I'm not scared of being single, I was single for three years prior to my ex boyfriend... yes I have crummy self esteem but I always have.
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well work on ur self esteem tbh :) u have to build urself up before giving urself away to someone else :)
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@coolgirl19 I'm not bothering with dating or trying to build a relationship with anyone ever again. I'm just going to stick to being by myself and interacting with people as little as possible
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do that for nowi thinkits right and eventioally ull meet nice friends, etc
+1 yGod I know exactly what you feel like. My life really just hit an all time low a while ago, die to the sheer amount of crap people were giving me. This is going to sound so weird, but music was my savior. I would spend hours every day in my room just listening to music because music wouldn't criticize me or tell me I wasn't good enough. Fall Out Boy taught me I'm good enough, that feeling worthless doesn't mean you are worthless, and someone will always love you for who you are, you just might not have found them yet. Pierce the Veil taught me that taking care of yourself is the only way anything will get better, and that hurting yourself hurts everyone. My Chem taught me I have to be myself, I shouldn't conform to what society wants me to do, and that no matter what I wear or who I like, it doesn't make me less of a human being or worthless. Thought I should share some lessons I learned, now that I'm much happier, and encourage you to find something, anything, that is like music was to me
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I'd like to add that if you want to get a little more involved in your local music scene, you'll very likely meet people going through what you're going through, and maybe a potential boyfriend. It sucks when you go numb to things, but you just have to keep pushing through and realize that it will get better one day,
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I don't even want a boyfriend. I'm not desperate to meet someone. I just want the people who pretend to like me for months, to stop lying to me and messing with my head. I'm fine being single, it's not even really about that, it's about these rejections. Friends have done the same to me, non romantic ones. But thank you, I don't know how I feel about trying to force myself to meet people. I'm not very confident in that respect.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXYiU_JCYtU this song reminded me of you and my former self, just thought you should listen
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Start with stopping the belittling of yourself. Next, give yourself some time! People find love at all different ages. Also consider rejection isn't always about you. Just because someone doesn't want to be with you doesn't mean you're not worth being with. Not everyone will automatically want to be with you.
Deal with it by reminding yourself you are a great catch and when that right person comes along he ( or she ) will appreciate all those great qualities you know you have!07 Reply- +1 y
Also, no good can ever come if you continue to tell yourself you're not good enough. You teach people how to treat you, but you can't teach them if you yourself don't even believe it. Try to forget that garbage and focus the more positive. If you still struggle then try seeing a therapist to help you figure out why you won't allow yourself to feel better.
It makes me sad to think you see yourself in such a negative light.
+1 yI think once you stop trying to be the best person you can be because you probably genuinely are, rejection is tough and some people deal with it in other ways than others, there's also other reasons besides someone not being into you is the reason they reject.
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This is coming from a 25 year old virgin who hasn't even obtained a kiss yet, and is by no means holding out for religious reasons. You're not worthless. Just because something hasn't worked out yet, doesn't mean it never will. At the very least you're attractive, although that's a blessing as well as a curse. On one hand, people will feel drawn to you, but they won't all be well intentioned. You will have choices though. Just make sure to remember that you have value besides your appearance, and that you deserve someone that will respect you for it.
Others aren't as lucky, and have to accept what comes. For example, a few weeks ago I placed a photo of myself on here asking to be ranked on my appearance from 1-10. The average I got was a 5, going as low as a 3. I don't have many options, but if I allow that to bother me too much, I'll have absolutely none. Even with those poor odds, very little of the attention I receive from women is genuine; most often it's just the result of some insecure chick reassuring herself that she's desirable.
So appreciate the circumstances you have, try to smile through the pain, and look to find someone that deserves you, especially if you don't feel you deserve them. Best of luck in finding someone special.03 Reply- +1 y
Don't talk about yourself like that! Three years ago, I had no car, lived with my parents, and would have a panic attack if I saw someone I used to know from high school on the street. Some days it was just a struggle to continue existing as myself. However, this past year alone I have moved into my own apartment, bought my own car, regularly visit the local bars in my hometown, and have even had the good fortune to be able to visit China without being accompanied by family. I still struggle daily with simple things, and hell, for all I know I may still die alone due to my appearance despite my personal accomplishments. But you don't just give up on yourself like how you're trying to do. You're young and attractive, and still have a large world of opportunity to explore. So stop hating yourself for your failures, and do something that matters!
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You can't say I'm attractive. You can see one picture of my face that's decent but you don't know what I look like. I live with my parents. I have anxiety and depression. I just lost my job. I have nothing going for me. I promised myself I wouldn't do this year because I knew I couldn't handle it. I wish I'd kept my promise to myself.
I think I know why based on some of the stuff you've said to others. It's not a nice answer but I'm being real. It's true that when you look different to what people think your like they latch onto what they thought you were like subconsciously. I have a male Freind now who at the start I thought was standoffish and kinda arrogant. I know him well now and guess what he's not like that at all. But then there are moments that happen that make me think he is actually like that.
What I'm trying to say to u is people might date you because your pretty and likable. But (based on what you said) you are used for sex meaning you probably give off a vibe that says I'm 'fun', however you may really be giving off the vibe that your sexual. When he gets to know u he learns that your not like that. The catch is that anything that confirms his subconscious belief pushes you away from him. The 'Sex' vibe is usually always associated with a girl who's 'Fun' and therefore he may assume you not long term material.
You never truly get rid of the assumption you first make of someone therefore I advise you to not give off the 'Promiscuous girl' vibe but the 'Relationship' feel. I'm not encouraging you to make drastic changes like changing you hair colour to brunette haha but maybe be less upfront and eager at the start.
It's not really a case people intentionally trying to hurt you its more the mind already has a plan for us that we haven't thought about on a conscious level.01 Replyyep, been rejected... you know what I did... rejected that ! That isn't what matters most, what matters most is how you feel about yourself. It is actually a fact that we will eventually become what we expect ourselves to be. I read it on the internet it must be true. Also, I read that when we change our internal dialogue, you know what that voice in our head keeps telling us, we can change reality... yep, it's true, this I have actually tested... it's worth a try, tell your self that you are good and awesome and unique what ever words are most comfortable for you just make them positive, I'm hot... smart... do this for a month and watch what happens... it's not easy but you can do it... ;-)
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+1 yI don't think you are defective, hideous, or unloveable.
* I think you are a capable person to do the things that you need to do.
* You are very attractive to people out there. I know that it may seem like lots of people aren't attractive but there are people who will find you attractive.
* And not everyone is supposed to love you to the point of marriage.
I know that you feel this way and I won't minimize it, but if I said these things about myself you would say all the right things to pull me out of my funk. Maybe it's my turn now. :)03 Reply- +1 y
That is very understandable.
I think if you make a guy work for your affection then he might realize you are not a revolving door and treat you with more respect.
501 opinions shared on Dating topic. What do you mean by trying to be the best version of yourself? Putting yourself in the best light? Toning down certain elements of your personality that might be off-putting to many? Often, people have a strong personality trait (like outspokenness) that most people don't know how to handle.
Comparing yourself to others is not being fair to yourself. Relationships come easily for some people. Others simply have lower standards. People with unique personalities have a much harder time finding compatible friends or lovers. Such people are rarer and harder to find,. I suspect that's the situation for you.
You mention trying to mean something to someone else. How about trying to mean more to yourself? The more that the strengths of your personality (and the quirks too) shine, the more likely a compatible person will notice you.05 Reply- +1 y
I just mean being myself but making sure I'm a good person and I try and be loving and caring to everyone who comes into my life. I am flawed, like everyone else but yeah I guess I try and make sure I'm real but I'm also someone nice and likeable. But I'm obviously not doing it right. My perception of myself is formed by how I've been treated my whole life. I've been rejected by friends, family and potential relationships. I really don't feel like I can do anything right and be someone that people will care about. I'm really lonely and sad.
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There is no one in your life who sees you for who you are? It would be really helpful to get an objective view of how you come off to others and why certain people respond to you the way they do. I can't imagine that you deserve that treatment but not knowing you I can't explain why it's happening.
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I can see why you wouldn't want to let others in after all the pain that's brought you. Although this may also keep the right people out. Choosing who you do open up to is very difficult since a wrong choice can be devastating. It's not true that if your family doesn't get you, then no one ever will. They are often the last ones to understand a family member who is very different than they are. For what it's worth, here is a take I wrote about the mixed blessing/curse of being unique:
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a25195-the-paradox-of-uniqueness
Keep swinging! The world is a cruel place. Think about how saying "nobody wants me" is somewhat short-sighted. There are many good people that would love to be with you - you just have to do the difficult and persistent work of finding them. I hope you don't give up.
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let me get what i want
Lord knows it would be the first time...
unless your profile pic is hiding huge fat rolls, it's not your appearance.211 Reply- +1 y
You talk about working on your personality, i think... that's probably backwards. And you talk about working on yourself, then saying your body isn't great. Is 'not great' meaning 'its not quite perfect' or 'not great' means 'it's kind of shit but i work hard on being a nice person'.
Looks matter, a lot, in dating.
If by work on your personality, you mean trying to be more pleasant and inoffensive, that won't work well. - +1 y
Nope, other way around.
The problem with trying to be pleasant all the time is you are suppressing your personality. If you suppress your personality, nobody can dislike you. But nobody can really like you either. You're pretending to be bland. That doesn't make anyone want to date you. You have to risk actually being yourself, letting your real personality shine through, not hiding what you're like and what you desire.
And then? A whole bunch of people will NOT LIKE YOU.
And some others WILL like you.
As for your 'shit' body, lets see it and we can tell you if it really needs a ton of work or its just your low self esteem. Because i don't trust your self assessments, and i mean that kindly.
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I really don't want to keep complaining or giving excuses but I'm on medication that makes me big and I also have some health problems that make it difficult for me to do things like cardio. I know I need to lose weight, I think my body is disgusting but right now I can't do that much about it until I'm a little healthier and more finically able to join a gym.
841 opinions shared on Dating topic. Maybe take a little break and try to vent some emotion... go have a nice walk in nature from time to time and do relaxing things like reading a book :D
And than... try to get smiling again, that will make the guys feel like wanting to be around you. If you're bitter only your closest friends will continue to support you. A guy with a crush will probably run away :-(02 Reply
+1 yYou're already the best version but you're just stuck pretending otherwise...
And so you go on pretending and trying. You falsify your person and what you receive in return turns out to be equally false- a porcelain plate easily dropped and broken.01 ReplyMore guys are opting out of dating, I'm one of them. But I still can't see why guys would reject you. You look pretty good.
I've only been rejected the once, but I've only ever asked a girl out the once. Never did again. Been single my whole life out of personal choice.06 Reply- +1 y
I opted out of dating because I found women in my area to be backstabbing, bitchy, egotistical and the like. I got fed up so I threw in the towel. I started looking for women who were only interested in mixed wrestling.
As a result I became happier, my urges still got satisfied and with none of the BS.
I'd say opt out of dating but keep an open eye for anyone who could change things for you.
Personally I think you look great. :) - +1 y
I'm sorry you had to deal with women like that. Where are all the guys like you in the dating scene? I can't seem to meet anyone genuine. Or then I think I do and I'm not what they want. Thanks :) I'm definitely giving up on trying to find someone, I definitely feel like not everyone deserves to find someone in this life, I'm clearly not worthy :/
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You're definitely worthy, just there's a lot of blind people out there.
I'm sure you'd make a loving, cuddly, romantic and fun girlfriend. I'd be willing to bet everything on it.
by the way I'm on Skype and facebook if you want to continue chatting in the future. I'm into long conversations. In case you wanted to that is...
Don't try to be the "best version of you", because the best version of you is really just a distorted, pretend-you.
Just be you.
Men who get rejected just needs to suck it up, generally. there's not really anything else to do.03 Reply
+1 yIam genuinely shocked. You look so pretty beautiful eyes.
Why do you think this is? Surely your getting first dates? Or is it you can't hold on to guys. Love to chat more to see why it is your struggling.06 Reply- +1 y
I get dates, I get to the beginning of a relationship, heck I even got a guy to date me for 8 months before he rejected me. The rejection comes at different stages. They only want one thing. Whether I give it up first thing or not, that's all I am to men, sex. I'm just trash and nobody wants me.
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You've just been very unlucky and this has given you low self-esteem. You seem very nice everyone deserves to be happy.
What sort of guys do you like? Could it be you like bad boys.
It also concerns me you talk about sex as giving it up. Do you feel it's like that , don't you enjoy sex or have you now got to the point where your worried once you have sex then they will leave you - +1 y
I've never really had any self esteem. Don't know what that feels like. I've tried dating lots of different kinds of people. The person who just rejected me is a nice guy and he said 'you're the girl the bad guys want'. Basically saying I'm not the girl the nice guys want. I enjoy sex and I like having sex but it doesn't do me any good.
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Interesting. . Please don't give up on guys. It's sad when sex is used like this by guys. You should enjoy sex and not have to worry wether the guy is using you or not.
Iam trying why your last guy would say what he did. - +1 y
Your not trash. You must not think that's way. This is why these guys treat you this way. No woman should ever be treated that way.
You have to break the cycle of being low so your treated so poorly.
+1 yDuh, it's not your looks, that's for sure.
I don't really have any advice, but you should know you're not alone, that I'm like you.13 Reply- +1 y
I'm not alone. I have a few friends, you included!
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+1 yJust focus on life. Maybe you're trying too hard for a relationship. I just got a feeling you're very clingy. You just need to find a guy who really wants a relationship over sex. you're a rare breed these days.
01 Reply Please explain what you say is rejection.
Given that the social norm for females of your age is to wait for the male to make the first move, I do not understand what you are experiencing.03 Reply- +1 y
Ah, I see.
Nearly all the relationships that we will have will also end one day.
If that is happening to you a lot, it might be time to re-evaluate the selection criteria that you are applying to males who express and interest in you.
Your profile pix (which you said on your profile was of yourself) is of a young woman who should have no difficulty attracting male attention.
If you want to do better, I can make some suggestions that may be helpful.
Read the following books:
1. The instant millionaire, by Mark Fisher. This is not about making money, per se. It is about how the choices that we make are determined by our level of self esteem. This includes our choice of intimate partners.
2. How to win friends and influence people, by Dale Carnegie
3. Skill with people (there is an extensive series of these books)
4. Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus, by John Gray
5. Awaken the giant within, by Anthony Robbins
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+1 yWell that all depends.
How much dignity do you have? I'm sure you could find a boyfriend quickly if you have little.
If not then you honestly might be asking the wrong guys out.03 Reply- +1 y
You can easily get a guy by being "easy". Most women with dignity don't want that.
Honestly if it IS you, it's not your looks. Maybe you're coming off too strong or maybe there's something about your personality that doesn't make it seem you want to date?
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+1 yIf that's you in your pp, you're not hideous.
You wouldn't last a day as an actual ugly person.01 Reply
+1 yYeah thats because you are trying to control the outcome too much, try simply enjoying yourself, the more real you are as a person the quicker you will be accepted
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That could mean a number of things, it could mean you are fooling yourself and not even knowing it, it could mean you are depressed, it could be that you are not coming off as authentic thusly people leave because they feel like they are unhappy around you... do you need more variables?
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Whelp if you never addess the problem how can you solve the issue.
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sorry it hurts you that much..
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Thats one way to take it. instead of looking at me calling you a depressed asshole look at it like i am giving you variables, it does necessarily mean they are true, thats for you to decide. But denying the existence of problems is not the way to solve them. I am sorry you are going through this much hurt
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I'm not deny the existence of problems. I'm aware that I am the problem but I don't know how to fix myself when I have nothing to fix myself with. I'm a depressed asshole, I get it. I'm not worthy of being around others because I can't fix myself. Thanks for your help, I've decided I'm just going to stay away from other people as much as I can.
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No that is just giving up, how is that going to assist you? how will this improve who you are?
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Everyone deserves love, care and compassion. Why would you be human? it's a gift to share love and care, not a curse. I mean if that's the direction you want to go in and you are drawn too go and see if it's for you, i have tried it, it's a bottomless pit from my experience.
Improving yourself takes time, i would suggest looking at how you treat yourself, often how we treat ourselves is how we would close friends or the world. That's a step if you wanted one. But my heart goes out to you regardless.
5.6K opinions shared on Dating topic. Just do things that put a smile on your face or that you like. Be happy wirh yourself and forget the rest!
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... I take lexapro and another one with a fancy name but its for sleeping. I can't afford thearpy either but i get free city help. Its a free service and basically all I did was call and make a appointment. Before hand i brought a statement letter and sign a few paper basically states if i get health insurance they will start charging me from their. I vist my thearpist once a week for 1 hour! (: Its nice having someone to talk to!
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That's great! I'm really happy you can get the help you need. I live in the UK, it's very difficult to get any help. There is a little bit of free stuff on the NHS but nothing long term, nothing like a proper therapist. I need a proper therapist because I don't have anyone to talk to or keep me grounded. I promised myself I wasn't going to do this year, I wish I hadn't broke my promise to myself :(
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The NHS is the national health service. Everyone's taxes pay for the health service here which is good if you have a physical illness but mental health isn't good, it's difficult to get help for it. If I want therapy, I would have to choose a therapist and pay £50 an hour for the pleasure.
+1 yWell, no, I have never gone through this much hurt because I don't suck that much, but if I were that useless I would probably just cry about it for a while until it ended.
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Of course!
+1 yWell the problem isn't your looks. Dig a little deeper.
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+1 yYou don't deal with it, you get past it... accept yourself and maybe other people would too...
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+1 yLet's have it private. I'm with you and I know you'll be better just one day from now.
10 ReplyStop trying and pretending, start doing and mean it,
01 ReplyIt's your mind, not your looks, and judging from this question, it confirms that
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+1 yHello,
I'm sorry to hear your struggle. May I ask how long you are waiting before sleeping with the guys?01 ReplyDon't concentrate on pleasing others so much.
01 ReplyWell you might not be hot? Lol
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+1 yAt first you don't succeed, try try again
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Don't please anyone, please yourself
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That's impossible, who cares about everyone. Just do you
+1 yHave u tried me yet?
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Have i reject u yet?
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Then why are u complaining? Get outta here ;P
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