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I consider myself to be a person who wants to pursue a university education, and etc. However, I've always been more drawn to guys who didn't want to follow that path. Our society is a system, and a lot of our success comes from education, building our career, etc. But you don't need an education to become successful. You can take a look at some of the most successful people in the world; many of them haven't gotten pass a high school education. It's attractive when a guy can take initiative of his own life, take a risk, work hard, and accomplish his goals. It's important to keep in mind though that most girls do want a successful guy, so I don't think it would work well in the long run if a guy doesn't have a good education to pursue a career, AND he's lazy and doesn't to crap. People say love is the most important part of relationships, but if you were to get married and start a family, love doesn't really pay the bills. I do consider education to have some value, but it also really means nothing if that's all a person has (their own education, but they don't have life skills) I tend to think of education just as a hobby you know? If you're into it, I'm cool with that, if you're not, that's fine. For example: If I find a boyfriend, chances are he's going to be more athletic than me ( I guess those are just the type of guys I'm drawn to). Not trying to sound cocky or anything, but it would be unreasonable for him to just look at my athletic abilities and not wanna date me. It's just not something I am really into, and I would feel disrespected by him if he just forced it on me. I can do many other things. I can skateboard, I can paint, cook, sing, etc. The point I'm trying to make is, as long as you can find success in what you do, and it's not hurting other people around you, I'm sure many girls are willing to date that kind of guy :)
College isn't everything. In fact, it'd be hypocritical of me to simply not date someone due to a lack of their college education as I'm not entirely sure *I'm* going to attempt getting one. It's just not the thing for everyone. And it's not as if every great job requires a college degree. College or the lack of a college education doesn't dictate one's success. Anyone who truly thinks that is, in my opinion, pretty mislead. I don't ever see myself dating a complete bum, if that's honestly what people think no college education results in a human. I'd date the person for who they are, not their education.
I have 8 professors in my family so I really care a lot about school but a non-educated person has a chance with me - just a much lower chance than an educated person. I once met a jewellery story owner who never graduated from high school since his parents were always switching countries when he was a child - I would have gone out with him if he was single but he told me his parents had already chosen a wife for him so we stopped talking.
Absolutely.
For context, my gal has a doctorate, and I have two degrees myself.
But, ultimately, what are college degrees? They're certificates which state that the holder has satisfied a series of examinations, and that is all they are.
They're not a badge of intellect or character, and they're given out like confetti by some pretty mediocre institutions these days.
Additionally, I've noticed that plenty of graduates are entitled, and know very little indeed about how the real world works, and do not bring skills to the table which are particularly useful. Many of them also fall back upon their degree as a key measure of identifying who they are. I don't find that especially valuable.
The people that I'm closest to on here, and who I'd genuinely turn to for advice, either do not have degrees or if they do, I'm unaware of that. For various reasons, be those life circumstances, or personal choice, they didn't take a degree, and that is utterly irrelevant to my personal regard for them.
I would also apply this to my dating life. It's about the person, not about a piece of paper.
^^ MHO
college degree means nothing. it means you were able to temporarily cram some knowledge into your brain and barf it out onto paper in the finals... i'm not saying a dumb person could easily have a degree but it doesn't take a degree to be a decent person.
Ex-fucking-zactly!
As someone, who has a college degree I can confirm, that I did NOT become smarter. I was just told to do a bunch of stuff, find answers to questions and make academic projects. All of this earns you the "certificate of being smart", which is a complete illusion and BS.
But unfortunately it's exact this piece of paper, that the employers like to see because of laws.
If I had known this, I'd spend my time more efficient in the past. Now I'm stuck with knowledge, that my academics have little to no uses for.
But now, that I'm continuing studying I know how this shit works and how to get that degree without studying things outside of what is required.
@Unit1 actually i am doing my bachelors now. i worked without a degree for a few years in a different profession and when i started to study at university i was kind of shook cause i really always assumed that they are all super smart people at university but they are just normal people to me. some even slightly dumb xD
and i heard from a few peers that studied abroad that even americans top unis like the MIT are actually pretty ridiculous in comparison to our technical university, which already isn't the cream of the crop in my opinion xD
It's the illusion of being brainy. Self Advertisement. "Study here and you become smart" as if you can't be smart without it. They should just be more fucking honest and say "Study here and you gain the privilege to work in these fields". It shouldn't even be called education. It should be called "certified privilege to work".
But laws were made this way, so we have to deal with this shit.
@Unit1 i think apprenticeships like we do in Germany make you way more fit to do a job. Cause you are taught the job by professionals in a factory or company plus there's a set curriculum made by each professions guild that we still have here in Germany so you go to a specialized school for the profession plus you do work in the actual field. If you're done with the apprenticeship, you are litterally fit do do every thing that is needed in your craft... University qualifications are kind of wonky. Employers don't really know what to look for most times and students are never taught what jobs they can really do with what they learn.
@Unit1 Deutsche Weiber sind total verklemmt fast so schnell so schlimm wie Americans.
The dual system is falling apart slowly tho. Cause no employer wants to pay the loan you can demand being fully job fit educated. They rather put you on a production line and pay you minimum wage for the one thing you're told to do...
Specially since the American bachelor level of education that we adopted here is worse in quality than our basic school system we have in place already... So adopting it for the sake of being globally compatible actually hurt us. There is no such high level education in America that would be comparable to the diploma system we had before the globalization with bachelor's and masters.
Dann welche Weibchen gefallen dir? Altmodische und Traditionelle so wie im Osten? Wo sie nach Männer mit Geld hinterherlaufen und sich arrangieren lassen oder sowas? Oder welche dann?
Where I am (in the east) the education system is really not any better. The overall education system is just fucked up. So there's little to no point comparing those.
I get my knowledge and intelligence mostly from the internet anyway, not the schools or books.
Oh and don't dare to make any obvious advances, that's pretty much instand rejection.
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Hell no. But it goes both ways to be honest. At least an associate's or bachelor's degree would be a minimum I guess, which many women have (think nursing, PR, marketing) but too much such as like a doctoral or medical degree is a turn off as well. I don't like my gfs more educated than me and also women with PhD/MD degrees are just way too narcissistic - comparable with their non-educated albeit bombshell sisters
depends
probably not... not cause the degree matters.. but I noticed women that haven't been through the process of training their minds to better their minds --> they are most often lacking depth and a certain type of awareness that you kinda only get from a person that has been subjected to competing with others academically
Without college, people can't be smart or have successful careers and make lots of money!
oh wait THAT'S NOT TRUE AT ALL comon people college is not some angel or god, you can learn anything you can learn there from the internet or a willing teacher outside of school if you have the will and discipline.
Yup, neither my husband or I have a degree so we’re well matched lol
Yeah, I don't have a college degree either. I want a guy who either has or is pursuing a career, though. My career of choice is healthcare and I'm learning certain parts of the trade. I want a guy with a plan.
statistically women are less likley to date someone with a lower education. It's led to tons of articles online about women "being worried they aren't finding good men".
Men on the other hand don't tend to care.
Collage degree doesn't make you worthy boyfriend material
Yes I would, it doesn't make you any less intelligent. I chose not to get a degree and I'm doing extremely well for myself!
Yes I would, as long as they have something going for them. A job, a plan, a direction their life is going.
Of course I would. The number of people sans degree outnumber the people with one, so I'd be limiting myself quite severely by only seeking those privileged enough to be college educated. That's just asinine.
Never say never, but I have a hard time imagining it work.
Doesn’t have to be a degree, but she needs to be smart and good at *something*.
I say yes because school is expensive and not every one can afford it or wants to be thrown into a life time of debt
Well yes... It all depends on their work. And qhat major they took in High school before (Different but better school system here)
Probably not, I really push for education and my parents (The Seventeen Monks) always pushed for my education and once I get married and have kids I'd want someone who pushes for education on the kids.
I wouldn't care if she went to college. No. Really.
High education does not imply high intelligence. I have met plenty of educated morons to know that.
I definitely would date someone without a college degree
these days, if she ain't got a good job its not gonna be easy, we have bills to pay
I would. I went to college and it felt like an extension of high school.
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