Yeah. It's obviously an advantage. I'm not sure why so many people are pretending it isn't. You can literally make your face look more appealing. The contrast is like a guy could pretend to have a college education, or pretend to have a house. It's something that increases value with minimal effort with instant effect. I'm totally for makeup. I prefer women do wear makeup. But it's obviously an advantage. I don't care that it's an advantage. But it is clearly one.
Guys technically "can" wear makeup. It's true it's not against the law. But it is against social law. And, it is not a "masculine" thing to do. So even were a guy to wear makeup to enhance his features, the fact that he feels he needs to resort to that would make others look down on him, male or female. It is simply not feasible for males to wear makeup. I'm surprised we need to point that out.
But if we want to say social pressure means nothing, then okay, then social pressure means nothing for women who feel like they "have" to wear makeup. No. Clearly you do not, if we use that same reasoning. It is not against the law for you to not wear makeup. I'm sure those same women will use social pressure as an excuse later for why it's unfair that women are expected to wear makeup. You can't have both ways, lol.
Anyway, end of the day, it doesn't matter what advantages others have. The only thing that really matters is to improve yourself in what ways you can and grow as a person. There's a lot of things that simply "are". And the only thing you can do with those is accept them and find a way to adapt.
Not at all.
If anything, the advantage goes toward men: Men don't have to spend hours (and money) putting on makeup to go out to spend time with women and men don't have to deal with society judging men on whether or not they wear make-up.
Even if say a woman spends just 10 minutes a day putting on makeup.
In one week, that's 70 minutes. That's more than 1 hour a week. If we're generous and round it up to 1 hour a week, that means women spend 4 hours a month just on applying makeup. If we extrapolate that to one year - women spend 48 hours a year putting on makeup. That's 2 days in a year women spend putting on makeup. In a decade, women spend 20 days putting on makeup. In half a century, women would spend 100 days putting on makeup, that's nearly a third of a year.
I'd gladly take the "disadvantage" of being able to show up barefaced to work, on a date, or anywhere without people questioning why I didn't put in any effort into my appearance.
To an extent, yes. It's easy to pull a "natural" makeup look that appears flawless and minor, yet really involves a TON of makeup. I've done it myself, and the difference is astounding.
Also, for the women claiming that only idiots think women with dark lips and eyes and all the makeup look natural, I'm pretty sure that's not how most men think. It's reasonable to be shocked when you get used to a person wearing makeup, and then they take it off to show something completely different. And again, yes, makeup can really have transformative abilities depending on how you wear it (some girls I know don't change a lot, others look like different people entirely). It all depends on the person, though frankly, part of why I don't wear makeup is because I want to love and accept (and thus be loved and accepted) for what I really look like, my natural beauty, as opposed to coloring on myself with chemicals and wasting a ridiculous amount of time on something I'm going to wash off in a few hours.
A little but I don’t think that most women transform into something that different. I’m not a big fan of makeup but I wear it because I feel like I look tired/unprofessional without it. Weekends are usually makeup free.
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Only if you're dumb enough to think women wearing makeup is what natural women look like.
It's not a complicated concept.
I think the two men who downvoted have never seen a women without makeup before.
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Nobody thinks that makeup is what actual women look like, at least most men don't. But the fact is that you can't tell what a woman looks like without makeup if she's wearing makeup (duh!).
Imagine living in a society where ALL men wore masks of handsomeness, wore fake expensive clothes, and had padded muscle suits on. In this world, you meet a really nice guy, you have a few dates, he invites you over... and then it turns out he lives on minimal wage, is ugly as sin, and has the body of a geriatric.
Would you feel it fair if we said "well, you knew what you signed up for! You KNEW that wasn't his face!"
Of course you knew he was wearing a mask, and maybe a bodysuit, and maybe fake expensive clothes. But it could have been that he was handsome under the mask, he could have had a realtively good body, and he could have been relatively successful. The thing with makeup is you can't extrapolate the girl's actual looks from what she looks like in makeup.
The "unfair" advantage women have in dating is that there are fewer of them than there are guys, except in older age cohorts.
To an inexperienced male, yeah it's going to fool him.
To an old fart like me, I look at makeup the same way I look at her bra, and shirt. The push up bra makes em less saggy, it's covered up... I can get an idea of what's under there, but... you'll never know for sure until you see it.
Makeup is a painted on mask, clowns do it, warriors do it, performers do it, people do it for Halloween, and a lot of women do it daily because they feel the masked them will attract the attention the real them might not... other's literally do it out of self-esteem issues (the makeup gives them confidence).
But yeah like I was saying to the untrained eye, you'll get fooled. Add distracting music, darken the room, add some bright flaring lights flashing all over, and add plenty of alcohol (I'm talking about a club here), and you might just not notice that she's actually a pizza face (zits), because it's all covered up under her 'foundation or concealer,' or whatever they call that shit.
All I know is it smells like grounded up rocks mixed with thick oils... can't be good for their skin.
No. Why? Because guys chase girls "on the curve." In other words, they go for the best-looking girl that they can get. So... If all girls use makeup (not true, but to simplify the equation) then they ALL move up equally. There is no actual advantage except perhaps to the lesbians, because they can now attract a "prettier" girl than they would have before makeup.
Think of it this way:
Suppose I give everyone in a locked room a $1 coin to buy a Coke from a Coke machine (we'll assume everyone drinks Coke) and each can costs $1. Everyone gets one can, right?
Now suppose I give everyone in the room a $5 bill, but I raise the price of a Coke to $5... everyone still only gets one can. There is no real change.
I wish I could put a drawing here, but imagine two "Bell graphs"
Normally the boys' graph and the girls' graphs (of attractiveness) would overlap. If you "push" the girls' graph to the right, it LOOKS like the most attractive guys end up with less attractive girls, but in actuality, they simply go after "more attractive looking" girls, and each guy "down the line" (of attractiveness) does the same, until everyone ends up with exactly the same person that they would have before BECAUSE the sex ratio (boy/girls) is almost exactly 1:1.
Look at it like this.
GIRLS (before makeup) 1 2 3 4 5 6
BOYS (before makeup) 1 2 3 4 5 6
GIRLS (AFTER makeup) 1 2 3 4 5 6
/ / / / / /
BOYS (AFTER makeup) 1 2 3 4 5 6
Sorry GaG takes out the extra spaces so that didn't work.
On the picture in your post, there's a snapshot filter on it, different lighting, the angle is off, etc. Whereas the no-makeup photo is clearly catching her at a bad angle/facial expression. Her makeup is minimal, have her in the same lighting and angle as the first picture, she'll look the same minus red lips and filtering.
I think it can depend on how you use makeup. When you put on so much where you look like a completely different person, I can see why guys would say it's unfair, but when you just use some to enhance your features, what's the issue? Especially when makeup can only do so much. If a girl isn't naturally pretty, makeup isn't going to hide that (I'm proof of it) It also shouldn't be too hard to figure out what's natural and what isn't, so no, I don't think it's unfair.
Also, how long is this debate on makeup going to last? Not directing this at you strictly OP, it's just I've seen a lot of posts about this, and honestly, whether people like it or not, I doubt girls will stop wearing it anytime soon because it's fun as hell.
Isn't she still wearing makeup in the 2nd photo.
And if you mean advantage in terms of being able to be effective in attracting men? Arguably yes. But for women who don't wear make-up, it can put them at an even further disadvantage than the average man, due to the Beauty standards we tend to chase.
I personally can't say much in terms of that because of the way I work, but I'm not for or against make-up because I don't use it, but who said I can't use it? If you want women to think you don't have acne, go ahead, wear makeup, nobody is stopping you. If you want to use makeup to blacken your eyebrows, go ahead. Nobody is stopping you. The only thing that's stopping you is the fact you want to attract people, yet accuse others of cheating / having an advantage based on their gender, when police won't show up if you cover your cold sores with foundation.
Self image is one thing I can be concerned about personally, but overall, nobody should really care. If you see yourself as someone who doesn't need make-up, power to you. If you see someone with make-up as "having an advantage" then what's stopping you from doing the same?
Most people going on a date, and mainly on a first date, are trying to look their best. So, while girls put make up on, do their fingernails and hair, guys will also try to fine tune their looks also,
The big awakening will undoubtedly occur if there is more to the fist date in a public place and that will be the case for both parties.
So, yes makeup may give a woman a certain advantage but she will also have to realize that she will not always be able to hide her cosmetic disadvantages behind a mask. The same applies for a guy. He will not always be able to flex his muscles to contain his little growing pot.
Either you accept the way that nature made you and be happy to be healthy or then you don't and try to hide the small flaws which nobody really cares if they really love you.
I don't think it does in serious dating, cause the guy is gonna see her without makeup sooner or later. If you'd get into a relationship with someone without seeing what they look like without makeup then you're an idiot.
It definitely gives women an advantage when it comes to hooking up, or on online dating apps, and it might give them an idea that they "deserve" better looking guys than they actually do when they're not wearing makeup. But that balances out when guys see what they look like naturally.
If it were more social acceptable for your average straight man to wear makeup or if it were even attractive to people to see a straight man wearing makeup, then I'd say yeah it kinda does make the battlefield sorta unfair. What if you're an insecure man and you'd like a little more pop on your eyes on top of your carefully picked outfit and hairstyle? Well it isn't as simple as putting on eyeliner, since if you were a girl it'd be barely noticed, while on a man you'd instantly be branded an alien. Sucks but it's true.
I voted no because; not all women wear makeup, and not all are good at applying makeup and so some look worse with make up on.
I do know some that can literally transform themselves, but I also know guys that look like hell no in their pjs and messy hair but like a snack once they got a shirt and tie and fixed their hair + trimmed their beard.
I hate when guys say things like 'oh well you women have the advantage of makeup, which is deceiving', esp. on first dates *rolls eyes* because 9/10 times these particular dudes would not compare even if I had no makeup on and morning hair so them saying this just feels like their attempt to humble me. I started wearing no make up to dates but lots of guys don't realise because they can't differentiate between make up or no makeup anyway unless you are flaunting red/dark lipstick in the former.
Women have their advantages to a degree without makeup and pushup bras and fake hair, etc.
I don't say that men should start doing makeup, but maybe there should be something we can do that gives US an unfair advantage. Some guys have this with the guys they surround themselves with, or the money/fame they happen to be born into...
We men just need to learn how to do that (altogether) a lot better. I'm not opposed to wearing lifts, or a dude wearing a good hat or hiding his balding, if done well. I don't mind an effective hair dye (I may try to get rid of some gray myself sometime). I think we do need to get a little better at taking care of ourselves. Not like spa days or using avacados over the eyes or whatever, , but maybe some sunscreen when we go outside to cut down on wrinkles, learning how to dress better for our body type and build, that sort of thing. If we can figure out how to eat better now, we may help ourselves in the long run when we're older.
Makeup, or face paint as some call it, can give a girl a better self image, especially if she has any scars from acne. But there is such a thing as too much makeup as my pics show. One with no make up and one with. If you look good natural there is no reason to wear much except maybe some eye makeup. Natural is always the best way to go if you can. But it all depends on what the guys like in the long run.
Most of the time, no. The only instances that I'd characterize as "unfair" or examples of "false advertisement" are ones in which a woman wears an amount of makeup on a date that is not typical of her daily wear.
For instance, if a woman wears only mascara and eyeliner daily, and she does the same on a date, who's to say that is "false advertising"? On the contrary, she is presenting you the face that you could expect to see most frequently. That's perfectly fair if you ask me. I think one's "real" face is defined by the face they wear most often, not necessarily the one they were born with.
It would only be a problem if that same girl were to add foundation, concealer, contour, lip gloss, fake lashes, etc solely for the date in order to lure the man in, then return to her normal makeup routine thereafter.
Also, makeup doesn't exactly offer a comparative advantage over men, as there is nothing stopping men from wearing makeup, except themselves.
I think it depends really, some people can see past the make up and others just don’t. Men also wear the odd bit of make up these days as well
I feel less is more, personal preference really... however, I can appreciate the lengths some women go to achieve the look they want but it comes off
That is their disadvantage, some guys/girls may not appreciate the transformation back to reality! Plenty of videos on YouTube that demonstrate this as I am sure you may well be aware...
It is just nice to see the real person and then be wow’d or not when they slap on their warpaint.
At the end of the day, whatever makes her feel confident and comfortable... her choice!
Will say somewhere in between yes and no, there was no option 🙂
Guys can wear some makeup too like bb cream which just makes your skin look good and smooth. I've heard of guys who pluck stray hairs on their eyebrows and moisturize their face. I lived in Europe and I've only truly seen European guys take pride in their appearance. American guys... not so much. If you aren't going to try then why should women look at you when they try? No one wants chop liver. Plus I don't wear make up. But I still get hit on. I still put pride in my appearance which guy can easily do too. It doesn't make you gay to dress nice and know fashion.
Not really in fact makeup it's like a turnoff for guys these days , but for a true feminine woman like myself I really don't give a crap I just wear my lipstick regardless. I always used to never wear makeup because my parents didn't allow it but as soon as I bought my first makeup I've been hooked ever since. I think it makes me look prettier and I like looking pretty sometimes. But I really don't know what's guys problem why does the makeup bother you so much if your not the one wearing it. Guys need to be more accepting of the makeup culture. As someone who suffers from bipolar , makeup is really therapeutical to me. I look forward to do my makeup everyday and if I had to get injured in my face I would die cause then I will be ugly. Lord knows I can't handle that , I want to look like an angel.
Makeup is so freaking obvious. It doesn’t make anyone look better unless they had bumps or pimples. Guys think it’s hot but then want to call it deceiving when the girl takes it all off. Makeup isn’t giving anyone any real advantages in dating. You should know that no ones eyebrows are THAT perfect 😕 come on now. Dudes use that as an excuse to act clueless.
"Makeup is so freaking obvious. It doesn’t make anyone look better unless they had bumps or pimples."
Bullshit.
I know plenty of 5/10 girl who looked like a complete bombshell after just putting on a bit of white foundation, some red lipstick, and eyeliner. Red lipstick in general can propell an average looking, 5/10 girl to an 8/10 REALLY easily. Well, at least for white and Asian women. I don't know what color works best for black women.
"Guys think it’s hot but then want to call it deceiving when the girl takes it all off. "
YES. THAT IS THE BASIC IDEA BEHIND DECEPTION. That you are tricked into getting with someone who is less attractive in reality than she appears with makeup.
Imagine buying a car that looks like a Ferrari, paying as much for it as for a Ferrari, and then finding out it is a 40 year old Lada from the inside. Are you, the buyer, the one at fault here?
"You should know that no ones eyebrows are THAT perfect"
How should we know?
1) You can barely see women WITHOUT makeup at all, so the standards are all over the place.
2) Why couldn't someone's eyebrows be perfect?
3) Who the fuck cares about eyebrows? Haven't you heard this classic? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS7NRRCvmKM
"Never once in the history of mankind has one man said to another "Check out the eyebrows on her!""
@Benedek38 Thank you 😊
NO IT doesn't. I'm tired of hearing guys say how makeup conceals and all that shit, all makeup does it cover blemaches and ENHANCES a women's beauty. Its still there face just without dark spots and pimples and stuff. WTF is a "plain" woman no women are plain, everyone women has beauty that stands out and makes them beautiful. I'm tired of guys talking about women in makeeup like its plastic surgery.
Makeup makes a HUGE difference in a womans appearance. If it didn't then why wear it?
Have you seen the crazy Make up Chinese girls do? They look completely different. Their makeup involve tape and weird clay stuff
A woman with makeup can look like a model. Without makeup she can look like a plain Jane. It's a difference
All these GUYS who thumbs down can stfu because they dont understand shit, and girls who did it well screw u.
@Sparda20xx you can't say makeup makes a huge difference in a women's face because not ALL WOMEN wear pounds of makeup that make them into a whole new person. And why do they do it you ask? Sometimes everyone needs a little boost in their confidence, some women just loves the way it makes them look, some women are insecure. If the women you keep dating is wearing pounds of makeup then MAYBE thats what you like. Every women has their reasons but who are you to judge? Why do guys take PRIDE in having the biggest dick? Or measuring it? Why do people excersie to lose weight? Everyone does what they want to better theirselves, so the fuck what.
Damn lady, who's pressing your menopausal buttons? Take a chill pill
@tonicandgin Lol no one just soo tired of hearing guys diss women because they choose to wear makeup. I see too many guys saying crap like this.
Did I say all women or women. Saying all women is an, absolution. Saying women is a generalization. There's a, difference. Furthermore because those women don't wear makeup they can't be part of the equation now can they
Wtf no? I think you are saying this because YOU are at a disadvantage for being too lazy to even put effort into your own appearance and taking the time and energy to find and wear clothes that fit and suit you for once. And now whining that women look hotter with makeup only. Oh no dear no. Then a poor guy wearing an expensive watch could get more advantage too. They don't.
An ugly girl in makeup is still not as pretty as a naturally pretty girl with or without makeup. Heavier makeup and prosthetics may be a bit unfair online, but they stand out pretty badly in person. Most men dislike heavy makeup.
If anything, plastic surgery is the only unfair thing in beauty these days. When you can even change your bone structure... you're messing with natural selection right there.
In either case, both men and women are able to use these things.
@TripleAce Actually foundation looks good in pics but pretty bad in person.. It looks like you're wearing a mask. It also clogs pores, not allowing your skin to breathe, thus ageing your skin. Women who wear it everyday damage their skin and don't know it.. Lipstick, mascara and concealer is ok but anything else looks bad.
@wolfcat87: not always. It depends how good is the plastic surgeon and it's a matter of luck, if it the surgery will be successful then.. I see people getting lip fillers or a nose job and looking pretty bad with them. On the contrary, Bella Hadid be came a supermodel after her surgeries
@TripleAce I'm saying that there's no way of smoothing your skin. It has to do with genes, eating healthy etc.
Make up can definitely make mild blemishes disappear. All foundation does not look horrible in person. Some types do. I have had my mother stand a foot away from me with a full face of makeup on, and she could not tell the difference! We were talking for like a half an hour, face to face, in a store. I told her that her makeup looks nice, and she asked me why I wasn't wearing any! Ha ha ha. If you use matte, cheap, caked on makeup or just makeup that is garish or not right for you, then it will be more obvious.
On the other hand, people very experienced in picking out makeup can still usually spot it. Myself included.
Also, makeup can only really cover flat blemished. Any raised area will still be there. That's one reason why acne prone people love matte makeup. The dull surface makes it harder for light to reflect off of pimples.
I agree that it can add a point if done right. It can also take away points when done wrong.
@TripleAce The 6 and 7s are very rare actually. If attractiveness is a normal bell that means that the majority of women are around 5. Only 25% are around a 6. 10% are a 7. 5% is a 7.5. Only 2% of women are very good-looking, an 8 and only 1% a 9. Don't be ridiculous. Most women aren't a 7 with makeup or no makeup.
Besides guys always get girls with their money or height. I've seen very average looking guys (facially) getting beautiful women just because they happen to tall and well-dressed
@gothgirl997 You assume that attractiveness is a bell curve model. In fact, there is no reason to believe that. An ugly lady who will screw anyone and has 8 kids will have more say in the gene pool than a 10 who has 1 kid or no kids. The same can be said in reverse. 10's could outnumber 5's by 100 to 1. Attractiveness is only really universally measured in symmetry and general health.
As for makeup changing the point scale... It's a bit true. Most men agree I'm a 7-8. In makeup and heels most men agree I'm an 8-10. It definitely alters how many men are attracted to you in that moment to some degree.
Girls can get men with money and height as well. A lot of men love that I am tall. Some men have a short girl fetish. Most men love money.
Were you assuming those men only got women due to being tall and well dressed? All I hear is healthy and takes care of how he looks. Makeup is in the same category I would say.
@TripleAce Okay, a darkly lit bar or club makes it a definitely advantage. Especially with all the drunk people around. Brings to mind the term "coyote Ugly" ha ha ha. It definitely would give her an edge in one night stands.
I don't know that I would say these women expect a higher quality of man. I see plenty of women put on makeup to go out, then they end up with a pig.
I don't think it's about the make up at all. I think it's the fact that using make up shows a sign of effort. Using make up (wether minimal or overdone) shows that a girl cares about her appearance to make the effort. My ex preferred me natural faced but always appreciated the extra effort for date nights etc.
So I am noticing a high percentage of women going no but ladies, I don't know if you see this but 54 percent of guys are going yes. Let me put it this way, men and women get rosy cheeks when they are young, when you get older, men lose them and women wear blush, I am just sayin'
One thing I had notice Latina girls almost pull the whole case of makeup lile
Cmon woman you full of make it. Geez I wonder why so much make up. Honestly I don’t like it and I like girls who wear no make up or a little bit is just fine but too much. Gtfo
Only if you are an Asian master of makeup like the ones in this video
I feel regular girls don't usually wear that much makeup to create such big difference in comparison with their natural look, so it's not that hard to imagine a girl without makeup. Unless they are the masters of makeup I showed above.
Watch the first girl closely, after she's taking off the makeup her eyes move farther apart. Those are two different girls. This is fake.
Not really. If you look at it from that angle, women are really only painting themselves into a corner, because at some point the makeup will have to come off anyway. If looks really matter that much to you, go for girls who wear no makeup or natural looking makeup.
I guess.
If you broke it down really the issue is that we like their faces too much and they can just do it even harder with makeup. But they’re fake at the same time so it’s not like makeup is always better. Most of the time no makeup is better, and therein lies the issue. With or without they look good and guys just... don’t and there’s not a lot a guy do about it in the short term. You can really fake attractive, you either work out a ton or put effort into your career or whatever and get some manner of tangible gains. There’s no stopgap like makeup.
No because you don't have to date someone who wears makeup. You can choose to date someone who wears more or less makeup or even none. I personally find makeup unattractive. So many stupid idiotic girls are obsessed with/ wear a lot of makeup. Some people think it makes them look better so I think you have to accept that insecure fake girls are more likely to wear it. Also you can wear makeup if you want. And also you shouldn't be so insecure. it gives a girl an advantage in a one night stand in a club or bar.
Im sure guys can tell if a girl is wearing TONS of make up, so hopefully they would realise that she would probably look different without it.
However, if its just a small amount of make up, just to enhance their appearance slightly, then i dont see a problem with that
She was talking about the difference between wearing a lot of makeup and just a decent amount of it. She meant that wearing a lot of makeup changes your appearance drastically compared to a decent amount of makeup
@Naruto_Uzumaki Yes, but the question wasn't whether your appearance changes drastically, but whether it's improved. Even a small amount of makeup can drastically improve your looks, while not changing your fundamental facial structure and looks. So in fact small amounts of makeup, AKA "natural" makeup, is MORE unfair than industrial amounts of powder on your face that's blatantly obvious.
Not really.
If we pay attention we can see if a woman wears a lot of makeup. For me, a ton of makeup is a turn off. A small amount, and more natural look is more of my preference.
A guy can also look just as good if he takes care of his skin. Using quality facial washes, moisturizers, and sunscreen can give a guy just as much advantage over other guys.
nope, if it really transforms her than you'll see she has a tone of make up and so if you wanan avoid that - dont go for those
by the way she looks prettier to me without make up ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
a lot of girls dont know how to put make up too and make themselves look uglier...
Why the fuck are women replying to this? Unless you are genuinly lesbian then you would not know. They obviously do. My two previous girlfriends looked hotter with makeup on, meaning if she didn't wear makeup I would probably have approached another girl.
Yes it does. A lot of women think they're above most guys, when without makeup they look like shit. That's why I encourage guys to use whatever means they can to make themselves more attractive. Girls do.
not really because they are competing against others wearing makeup.
think about it like this. do baseball players compete against the ball or another team of players? their objective is to hit the ball. girls objective is to get the guy or girl. in such they are competing with others in the same objective.
a strange and probably not perfect analogy but rather apropos i think
Well no, because any girl can wear makeup. It takes skill to know how to do makeup. I can't do makeup so i dont wear it. But think about it this way, if beautiful girls put makeup on they usually just look better and same goes to plain girls. So in the end it doesn't matter
I don't think so. But I look deeper than the skin. But if you are asking if men should be able to wear makeup I say why not. If your laying down some foundation should not be that bad. But I am not to sure about doing the colored eye lids. But that's just me. If you want to wear makeup then knock yourself out.
It does give them an advantage. Its quite insane just how much of a difference makeup can make for a womens appereance. One of the hottest girls in my school class looked like your average 4/10 without her makeup. But she did it so perfectly (and everyday) that a lot of guys had a crush on her.
I dont think its "unfair" though. I seriously dont care
Also the girl in your picture looks 10x better without make up
You actually sound stupid... The ugliest dudes get women way above their standards all the time. Beauty standards are especially higher for women because we live in a patriarchy and have women like Kim K.
1) Kim is an idiot.
2) You can opt out of societal standards at any time.
3) Beauty standards are often set by women themselves.
example: thigh gap.
I, and many other men, had never heard of such of thing before girls started writing about their desire to have one.
This is entirely your creation.
@Naydyonov Nah, you wouldn't understand.
If anything, it might give them an fair disadvantage. some guys, like myself, don't like a girl with gobs of war paint all over her face and would rather be with a girl he can actually see for who she is rather than who she pretends to be. In the pictures above, both girls are very pretty but, I think I'd rather go for the one on the right. I might like the left one better if she didn't wear make-up, or at least not as much.
ugh haha, this picture is a part of the problem. that's not just make up.
she has a snapchat filter on. AND it's a different pose, lighting, and then make up is the last thing haha.
I think recently this belief that an ugly woman that wears make-up can become beautiful or even is beautiful is a completely nonsense and even outrageous.
in my opinion, she may look better and more "presentable" and even LOOK beautiful, but she cannot BE what she is not.
Fools will be fooled (including the ladies who think that).
That girl isn’t attractive in whether picture. Makeup doesn’t help everyone. If you look like a totally different person without then yeah it could be very deceiving. However, hopefully you don’t expect all women to look like they do when wearing makeup.
Make-up can do wonders, yes. BUT... the problem is if you only see a girl with make-up on the first few dates and then see her without it and there's a big difference in her looks, it becomes awkward. I prefer a girl wear as little make-up as necessary at any time, but especially on the first date.
Easy way to tell if she's ugly underneath all of that bullshit.
Look at her up close. Its like going from a 480p television across the room to 2k definition up close. You can see all of the marks, smudges, splotches, eyelash gunk, overdrawn lipstick etc. If you see too much of that shit on her face. Definitely ugly.
Well it's not really unfair, since there is nothing forcing them to wear makeup and us to not. But it is an advantage. Most guys like makeup so I don't see why we should complain about it anyways. There's girls who go without, and it's not like you can't see her without until you're married. It's an advantage, yes. But it's not that big a deal.
It could but then when a guy wakes up and figures out he’s been catfished, he’s gonna runaway. Lol
If you’re pretty you don’t need make up, if you’re ugly, you’re still gonna be ugly but if you do few things to correct your face look or draw more attention to your good features then it’s fine.
It's not unfair but it is an advantage. Physical beauty is the first thing people notice. That includes clothes, hair, shoes, and how clean it all is. Of course, looks get you as far as the "hello," and then it's up to the person's personality to carry them through.
Makeup is worth every penny a girl spends on it, she uses it to attract guys - But it is not an unfair advantage, it does help every girl that uses it, but it is the girl herself that will keep a guy with her.
look, first: make up is only use to hide stuff, it doesn't make a girl hotter, it just hide her imperfections, after all there is a reason sometimes people say that you should have a date at the pool or the beach.
second: have you seen a man with make up? it looks ridiculous and very egotistical.
third: unless you are gay or bisexual with prefference for men, obviously you are going to find women more attractive.
A women is 100% allowed to look however the fuck she wants, same as a man. If a man is dumb enough to talk to her more simply because of added makeup, all blame is on him. You wouldn't like it if women talked to a man more because of steroid made muscles would you? Ok then. Same applies.
I think it's deeper than make up. The culture for women is still big on beauty standards generally, which is what attracts men. The culture for men is changing into one that favors traits like agreeableness more and more, which is viable, but isn't sexually attractive.
Too balanced the number, I expected more No, furthermore here are the girls who looks to be more rational.
"You dont have to be faster that the lion, just faster that the other bree"
It means I dont compete with her, I make it with the others guys on her enviroment, furthermore, it means that we are more visual and they know how to use it.
Yes but no...
It is available to all women so it is even on that and what makes a woman appealing to a man is not really the same as what makes a man appealing to a woman in a general sense of that anyway so it is not really an advantage since me. Could use it but it just wouldn't give them much
Luckily I can tell about a persons actual physical appearance as opposed to cosmetic ones.
Such as their posture, aspect ratio, how they walk, facial features, arms etc.
So it don't fool me ;-)
A healthy fit body is a beautiful one
yes nowadays it does these makeup artists are amazing they can take a woman that looks like nothing and make her look like Miss America and then when you get a home and you take the makeup off she looking crazy so yeah I think it's an unfair advantage more like false advertisement LOL
If you're ever unsure wipe her face with a baby wipe. I do it just for fun.
Guys can wear make up if they like. Anyhow women wear make up bc more is expected of them looks wise. That’s why I don’t wear make up - bc I want to be appreciated for _me_.
I have seen women with too much makeup, or they dont know how to use it right. So, if you use it correctly , then it does make you more attractive. I would say most women are a fright without it. It also depends if you have seen them with makeup, then without it will be negative.
Possibly. Just so you now, the girl on the right is still wearing eye makeup, and probably a blemish concealer too. You'd be surprised at how much of a difference just eyeliner and mascara makes in how a girl looks.
If that's the same chick in both pictures, I would say the makeup is an unfair DISadvantage because, sooner or later, home boy is going to figure out he didn't get what he paid for, and he's gonna be up there at the fuckin return line Q-U-I-C-K!
I’m gonna say no. I don’t all of a sudden have higher standards because I look better with makeup on. Eventually the guy I date is gonna see me without makeup. ALSO, I don’t wear a lot of it. I don’t even use foundation. I just use mascara. For special occasions, I’ll use tinted moisturizer, mascara and some lipstick. But I still look like me. I don’t look extremely different. The only thing that looks different is my skin since I’ll have dark under eye circles since I never get enough sleep.
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