Yeah. It's obviously an advantage. I'm not sure why so many people are pretending it isn't. You can literally make your face look more appealing. The contrast is like a guy could pretend to have a college education, or pretend to have a house. It's something that increases value with minimal effort with instant effect. I'm totally for makeup. I prefer women do wear makeup. But it's obviously an advantage. I don't care that it's an advantage. But it is clearly one.
Guys technically "can" wear makeup. It's true it's not against the law. But it is against social law. And, it is not a "masculine" thing to do. So even were a guy to wear makeup to enhance his features, the fact that he feels he needs to resort to that would make others look down on him, male or female. It is simply not feasible for males to wear makeup. I'm surprised we need to point that out.
But if we want to say social pressure means nothing, then okay, then social pressure means nothing for women who feel like they "have" to wear makeup. No. Clearly you do not, if we use that same reasoning. It is not against the law for you to not wear makeup. I'm sure those same women will use social pressure as an excuse later for why it's unfair that women are expected to wear makeup. You can't have both ways, lol.
Anyway, end of the day, it doesn't matter what advantages others have. The only thing that really matters is to improve yourself in what ways you can and grow as a person. There's a lot of things that simply "are". And the only thing you can do with those is accept them and find a way to adapt.
Not at all.
If anything, the advantage goes toward men: Men don't have to spend hours (and money) putting on makeup to go out to spend time with women and men don't have to deal with society judging men on whether or not they wear make-up.
Even if say a woman spends just 10 minutes a day putting on makeup.
In one week, that's 70 minutes. That's more than 1 hour a week. If we're generous and round it up to 1 hour a week, that means women spend 4 hours a month just on applying makeup. If we extrapolate that to one year - women spend 48 hours a year putting on makeup. That's 2 days in a year women spend putting on makeup. In a decade, women spend 20 days putting on makeup. In half a century, women would spend 100 days putting on makeup, that's nearly a third of a year.
I'd gladly take the "disadvantage" of being able to show up barefaced to work, on a date, or anywhere without people questioning why I didn't put in any effort into my appearance.
To an extent, yes. It's easy to pull a "natural" makeup look that appears flawless and minor, yet really involves a TON of makeup. I've done it myself, and the difference is astounding.
Also, for the women claiming that only idiots think women with dark lips and eyes and all the makeup look natural, I'm pretty sure that's not how most men think. It's reasonable to be shocked when you get used to a person wearing makeup, and then they take it off to show something completely different. And again, yes, makeup can really have transformative abilities depending on how you wear it (some girls I know don't change a lot, others look like different people entirely). It all depends on the person, though frankly, part of why I don't wear makeup is because I want to love and accept (and thus be loved and accepted) for what I really look like, my natural beauty, as opposed to coloring on myself with chemicals and wasting a ridiculous amount of time on something I'm going to wash off in a few hours.
A little but I don’t think that most women transform into something that different. I’m not a big fan of makeup but I wear it because I feel like I look tired/unprofessional without it. Weekends are usually makeup free.
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Only if you're dumb enough to think women wearing makeup is what natural women look like.
It's not a complicated concept.
The "unfair" advantage women have in dating is that there are fewer of them than there are guys, except in older age cohorts.
To an inexperienced male, yeah it's going to fool him.
To an old fart like me, I look at makeup the same way I look at her bra, and shirt. The push up bra makes em less saggy, it's covered up... I can get an idea of what's under there, but... you'll never know for sure until you see it.
Makeup is a painted on mask, clowns do it, warriors do it, performers do it, people do it for Halloween, and a lot of women do it daily because they feel the masked them will attract the attention the real them might not... other's literally do it out of self-esteem issues (the makeup gives them confidence).
But yeah like I was saying to the untrained eye, you'll get fooled. Add distracting music, darken the room, add some bright flaring lights flashing all over, and add plenty of alcohol (I'm talking about a club here), and you might just not notice that she's actually a pizza face (zits), because it's all covered up under her 'foundation or concealer,' or whatever they call that shit.
All I know is it smells like grounded up rocks mixed with thick oils... can't be good for their skin.
No. Why? Because guys chase girls "on the curve." In other words, they go for the best-looking girl that they can get. So... If all girls use makeup (not true, but to simplify the equation) then they ALL move up equally. There is no actual advantage except perhaps to the lesbians, because they can now attract a "prettier" girl than they would have before makeup.
Think of it this way:
Suppose I give everyone in a locked room a $1 coin to buy a Coke from a Coke machine (we'll assume everyone drinks Coke) and each can costs $1. Everyone gets one can, right?
Now suppose I give everyone in the room a $5 bill, but I raise the price of a Coke to $5... everyone still only gets one can. There is no real change.
I wish I could put a drawing here, but imagine two "Bell graphs"
Normally the boys' graph and the girls' graphs (of attractiveness) would overlap. If you "push" the girls' graph to the right, it LOOKS like the most attractive guys end up with less attractive girls, but in actuality, they simply go after "more attractive looking" girls, and each guy "down the line" (of attractiveness) does the same, until everyone ends up with exactly the same person that they would have before BECAUSE the sex ratio (boy/girls) is almost exactly 1:1.
On the picture in your post, there's a snapshot filter on it, different lighting, the angle is off, etc. Whereas the no-makeup photo is clearly catching her at a bad angle/facial expression. Her makeup is minimal, have her in the same lighting and angle as the first picture, she'll look the same minus red lips and filtering.
I think it can depend on how you use makeup. When you put on so much where you look like a completely different person, I can see why guys would say it's unfair, but when you just use some to enhance your features, what's the issue? Especially when makeup can only do so much. If a girl isn't naturally pretty, makeup isn't going to hide that (I'm proof of it) It also shouldn't be too hard to figure out what's natural and what isn't, so no, I don't think it's unfair.
Also, how long is this debate on makeup going to last? Not directing this at you strictly OP, it's just I've seen a lot of posts about this, and honestly, whether people like it or not, I doubt girls will stop wearing it anytime soon because it's fun as hell.
Isn't she still wearing makeup in the 2nd photo.
And if you mean advantage in terms of being able to be effective in attracting men? Arguably yes. But for women who don't wear make-up, it can put them at an even further disadvantage than the average man, due to the Beauty standards we tend to chase.
I personally can't say much in terms of that because of the way I work, but I'm not for or against make-up because I don't use it, but who said I can't use it? If you want women to think you don't have acne, go ahead, wear makeup, nobody is stopping you. If you want to use makeup to blacken your eyebrows, go ahead. Nobody is stopping you. The only thing that's stopping you is the fact you want to attract people, yet accuse others of cheating / having an advantage based on their gender, when police won't show up if you cover your cold sores with foundation.
Self image is one thing I can be concerned about personally, but overall, nobody should really care. If you see yourself as someone who doesn't need make-up, power to you. If you see someone with make-up as "having an advantage" then what's stopping you from doing the same?
Most people going on a date, and mainly on a first date, are trying to look their best. So, while girls put make up on, do their fingernails and hair, guys will also try to fine tune their looks also,
The big awakening will undoubtedly occur if there is more to the fist date in a public place and that will be the case for both parties.
So, yes makeup may give a woman a certain advantage but she will also have to realize that she will not always be able to hide her cosmetic disadvantages behind a mask. The same applies for a guy. He will not always be able to flex his muscles to contain his little growing pot.
Either you accept the way that nature made you and be happy to be healthy or then you don't and try to hide the small flaws which nobody really cares if they really love you.
I don't think it does in serious dating, cause the guy is gonna see her without makeup sooner or later. If you'd get into a relationship with someone without seeing what they look like without makeup then you're an idiot.
It definitely gives women an advantage when it comes to hooking up, or on online dating apps, and it might give them an idea that they "deserve" better looking guys than they actually do when they're not wearing makeup. But that balances out when guys see what they look like naturally.
If it were more social acceptable for your average straight man to wear makeup or if it were even attractive to people to see a straight man wearing makeup, then I'd say yeah it kinda does make the battlefield sorta unfair. What if you're an insecure man and you'd like a little more pop on your eyes on top of your carefully picked outfit and hairstyle? Well it isn't as simple as putting on eyeliner, since if you were a girl it'd be barely noticed, while on a man you'd instantly be branded an alien. Sucks but it's true.
I voted no because; not all women wear makeup, and not all are good at applying makeup and so some look worse with make up on.
I do know some that can literally transform themselves, but I also know guys that look like hell no in their pjs and messy hair but like a snack once they got a shirt and tie and fixed their hair + trimmed their beard.
I hate when guys say things like 'oh well you women have the advantage of makeup, which is deceiving', esp. on first dates *rolls eyes* because 9/10 times these particular dudes would not compare even if I had no makeup on and morning hair so them saying this just feels like their attempt to humble me. I started wearing no make up to dates but lots of guys don't realise because they can't differentiate between make up or no makeup anyway unless you are flaunting red/dark lipstick in the former.
Women have their advantages to a degree without makeup and pushup bras and fake hair, etc.
I don't say that men should start doing makeup, but maybe there should be something we can do that gives US an unfair advantage. Some guys have this with the guys they surround themselves with, or the money/fame they happen to be born into...
We men just need to learn how to do that (altogether) a lot better. I'm not opposed to wearing lifts, or a dude wearing a good hat or hiding his balding, if done well. I don't mind an effective hair dye (I may try to get rid of some gray myself sometime). I think we do need to get a little better at taking care of ourselves. Not like spa days or using avacados over the eyes or whatever, , but maybe some sunscreen when we go outside to cut down on wrinkles, learning how to dress better for our body type and build, that sort of thing. If we can figure out how to eat better now, we may help ourselves in the long run when we're older.
Makeup, or face paint as some call it, can give a girl a better self image, especially if she has any scars from acne. But there is such a thing as too much makeup as my pics show. One with no make up and one with. If you look good natural there is no reason to wear much except maybe some eye makeup. Natural is always the best way to go if you can. But it all depends on what the guys like in the long run.
Most of the time, no. The only instances that I'd characterize as "unfair" or examples of "false advertisement" are ones in which a woman wears an amount of makeup on a date that is not typical of her daily wear.
For instance, if a woman wears only mascara and eyeliner daily, and she does the same on a date, who's to say that is "false advertising"? On the contrary, she is presenting you the face that you could expect to see most frequently. That's perfectly fair if you ask me. I think one's "real" face is defined by the face they wear most often, not necessarily the one they were born with.
It would only be a problem if that same girl were to add foundation, concealer, contour, lip gloss, fake lashes, etc solely for the date in order to lure the man in, then return to her normal makeup routine thereafter.
Also, makeup doesn't exactly offer a comparative advantage over men, as there is nothing stopping men from wearing makeup, except themselves.
I think it depends really, some people can see past the make up and others just don’t. Men also wear the odd bit of make up these days as well
I feel less is more, personal preference really... however, I can appreciate the lengths some women go to achieve the look they want but it comes off
That is their disadvantage, some guys/girls may not appreciate the transformation back to reality! Plenty of videos on YouTube that demonstrate this as I am sure you may well be aware...
It is just nice to see the real person and then be wow’d or not when they slap on their warpaint.
At the end of the day, whatever makes her feel confident and comfortable... her choice!
Will say somewhere in between yes and no, there was no option 🙂
Guys can wear some makeup too like bb cream which just makes your skin look good and smooth. I've heard of guys who pluck stray hairs on their eyebrows and moisturize their face. I lived in Europe and I've only truly seen European guys take pride in their appearance. American guys... not so much. If you aren't going to try then why should women look at you when they try? No one wants chop liver. Plus I don't wear make up. But I still get hit on. I still put pride in my appearance which guy can easily do too. It doesn't make you gay to dress nice and know fashion.
Not really in fact makeup it's like a turnoff for guys these days , but for a true feminine woman like myself I really don't give a crap I just wear my lipstick regardless. I always used to never wear makeup because my parents didn't allow it but as soon as I bought my first makeup I've been hooked ever since. I think it makes me look prettier and I like looking pretty sometimes. But I really don't know what's guys problem why does the makeup bother you so much if your not the one wearing it. Guys need to be more accepting of the makeup culture. As someone who suffers from bipolar , makeup is really therapeutical to me. I look forward to do my makeup everyday and if I had to get injured in my face I would die cause then I will be ugly. Lord knows I can't handle that , I want to look like an angel.
Makeup is so freaking obvious. It doesn’t make anyone look better unless they had bumps or pimples. Guys think it’s hot but then want to call it deceiving when the girl takes it all off. Makeup isn’t giving anyone any real advantages in dating. You should know that no ones eyebrows are THAT perfect 😕 come on now. Dudes use that as an excuse to act clueless.
NO IT doesn't. I'm tired of hearing guys say how makeup conceals and all that shit, all makeup does it cover blemaches and ENHANCES a women's beauty. Its still there face just without dark spots and pimples and stuff. WTF is a "plain" woman no women are plain, everyone women has beauty that stands out and makes them beautiful. I'm tired of guys talking about women in makeeup like its plastic surgery.
An ugly girl in makeup is still not as pretty as a naturally pretty girl with or without makeup. Heavier makeup and prosthetics may be a bit unfair online, but they stand out pretty badly in person. Most men dislike heavy makeup.
If anything, plastic surgery is the only unfair thing in beauty these days. When you can even change your bone structure... you're messing with natural selection right there.
In either case, both men and women are able to use these things.
Wtf no? I think you are saying this because YOU are at a disadvantage for being too lazy to even put effort into your own appearance and taking the time and energy to find and wear clothes that fit and suit you for once. And now whining that women look hotter with makeup only. Oh no dear no. Then a poor guy wearing an expensive watch could get more advantage too. They don't.
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