I totally agree. Men generally like a whiter amount of the female population while it's not like that for women.
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Insinuating that rejecting someone is worse than being rejected?
@Expecto_patronads To him, yes.
That's a laugh. I've been subject to both. Getting rejected is a lot worse than having to reject someone. Both are very awkward, but at least one doesn't make you feel like a worthless person
Well, that's not how he sees it.
Well I think it pretty obvious the definition of feminism has altered since the 1920s those feminists marches are full on anti male but I don’t really care about feminism I just wanted to see who people thought had the advantage dating so please vote if you can thank you
I think in general women have advantage before marriage : more choice , easier to be accepted , etcbut men have advantage after marriage : no need to go through severe physical mental change when have kids , can mostly like keep working without being affected
I don't think not being able to give birth is considered an advantage, nor is wanting to keep a job to help your family out.
What strategy is that?
It depends on what you want and if you know how to get it without the hassle. For example, if a woman wants a committed relationship, she’s not going to waste time on guys who are just trying to get laid. That means she’ll have to avoid tinder and meeting guys at bars and clubs.
I did that too and got like, no responses at all. It’s confusing, huh?
@R_Cakes91 ha! Guys say they want us to message first. When we do they see us as desperate.
Yeah something like that. Are the guys that message you the same type that you messaged first. I message the ones I find attractive, but the ones that message me look like serial killers
@R_Cakes91 omg yes!! It’s exactly like that. Plus the guys I messaged are the type I used to date so it’s not like I’m going for someone out of my league.
The guys I message first look like lumberjack mountain men. I’m a park ranger and a mountain woman but they never respond. I have a feeling that a lot of those guys want a girly girl and they don’t actually do all the mountain men activities they say they do.
@R_Cakes91 I think you’re right. I think they’re all fake lol!I also think one a girl messages them they get cocky and super picky. Needless to say I’m not ever texting first.
So you do not want ugly guys texting and you have no problems rejecting them. But you are not happy when you text a cute guy first and he doesn't show interest? Even if you think you are talking with guys within your league they might not see it that way. Believe me you looking desperate for texting first is not why they don't show interest.
Don't get me wrong you have every right to turn down guys that you are not attracted to. But don't think that the guys that don't give you the time of day do it for any different reason than "Not really that good looking"
It sounds to me like you are using something like Tinder. Men have the same issues except neither option is more effective and it’s more a game of chance. While men would typically rather have women text first just so that he has a better bearing on how interested you are, it is extremely rare. So rare, in fact, that the only matches in most cases that text first are spam bots who try to bait them for their credit card. Men try to text first anyway because they have been told that they need to because the woman would never answer first.
Whoa dudes, chill out.
Sorry, I meant to say that what I was saying had nothing to do with the comment chain but it looks like I forgot 😅
I don’t message a guy first because I’m desperate. I message a guy first usually because we have a lot in common and he seems like someone I’d actually like to meet in person. I won’t meet just any rando. You kidding me? Heard o’ date rape?
@R_Cakes91 I don’t think anyone was making the desperation argument, in fact I think the very notion is stupid. I have actually heard of this argument on the reverse side too and it is just as awful.
@Snakeyes7 I was responding to the other guy who was kinda rude about it
@ThisIsMyOpinion so what you’re saying is that I should forget that I used to date athletic guys I used to date because I’m also athletic and we have a lot in common and instead should switch to couch potatoes because that’s somhow is my league too?
@R_Cakes91 apparently guys don’t care about having things in common. They just look at your picture and say Nah!! We shouldn’t even try to send any messages of a substance. Just half naked pics with million filters will do.
Yeah, I mean I never said anything about rejecting ugly guys, but I did mention them having a rapey vibe. I mean if it’s ok, I’d rather not respond to those and message men who seem mentally sound, have a job, don’t live in their parents basement, and take a shower at least 3 times a week. Is that asking too much? 😉
@R_Cakes91 I never said that you texted first because you were desperate. I said that no guy will ever turn you down just because you texted first.I also said you have every right to turn down any guy that texts you. I am not saying that you should say yes to every guy, of course not.
@R_Cakes91 I had no intention to be rude.
@Anonymous no, of course not. You have every right to go for what you want and turn down what you don't want. I simply said that the guys you text first also have that right.
it's not that we see you as desperate, but when I usually got messages first, it was always a bot trying to get me into a nudie pay chat room. Most of the profiles that messaged were fakes.
I just meant that the guys I text first who don’t message back makes NO sense to me. Like, we have everything in common, like the same music, are into the same outdoor activities. I don’t get upset or angry when they don’t text back, just confused. I also rarely get messaged by a guy who is similar to me. It’s usually a dude who hasn’t left his house in a while and is looking for a woman to “show him the world.” Which... there’s nothing wrong with that. I just don’t get the disconnect between myself and the opposite sex that seemingly has the same interests as me, ya know? I’m not saying that they have to message me back, I just think a lot of dudes find me intimidating. I’m a back country ranger at a national park and have all these amazing stories to tell. Maybe those “mountain men” don’t want to be outshined?
@R_Cakes91 That doesn't makes sense to you. Just because you have a lot in common with someone doesn't mean that things will happen. I practise muay thai, I like video games and I am a civil engineer. My fiancee never had a fight practice in her life, doesn't like video games and works in finances. We have almost nothing in common besides loving each other. And we both like TV series a lot xD Anyway if they don't text back it's because they are looking for something else, not because they are intimidated. I get that it can get frustrating, but that's the way things work. You will find your guy.
I meant to put women pretty much only have to wait for a bite.
That works very well if you are a hot women
@ThisIsMyOpinion no the woman doesn't have to be hot but don't expect the guy to want anything more than something casual. I guess they often think a guy wanting to sleep with them means he wants to marry her.
That becomes a problem when a woman has no one chasing her.
As if being dominant is easy.
Men are not born with dominance its not in our DNA its something the society built upon men.
@Daviid_ I kind of disagree. I think in any natural world without society men would be much more in control, all based on physical superiority in terms of strength. We can see this when looking at societies pasts where men were almost entirely in control. It took modern ethics to rationalize giving women rights. Naturally though, men would not give women that power. It took a lot of critical thinking to figure out that it's fair.
@Daviid_ you’d better stop thinking this way. Otherwise you won’t get anywhere in this world.
@Daviid_ I get what you're saying, I'm saying that the world gives men more opportunity to be dominant. Does that make sense?
@Aiko_E_Lara What I meant was that there is more of an opportunity for men to be dominant than there is for women.
I'd push it up to 35. I (almost) got married at 32 but I turned down his proposal (long story... don't want to get into that!).
Where's my sandwich?
I want one too.
Well from my experience women have always been the ones bringing up the "what are we" talk. If anything I feel like I've had that control. You must mean at the very beginning which I agree with. Everything changes though once we talkin about commitment.
@cavmanier fair enough 🙂
@cavmanier haha thanks for the subtle compliment 😜
@cavmanier it really does. How considerate of you 😊
Actually that's hard stuff! ... Also, what if you were a woman dumb enough to pick an asshole that always likes the new models! Looks can't save you there! Looks fade. Maybe if you have a child (or two) with said ass hole, then maybe MAYBE he'll stick around, and give you money for your hair appointment but if not, it's bye bye for you and you're out in the streets to look for a low wage job with your non college (or even high school drop out) self!
Time to spend money (that you don't have?) on face lifts, butt lifts, hair extensions to attract that older fella with money as well! BUT then you look at the clock and you're pushing 38 having a birthday next month. You then try to settle for your supervisor at Walmart if he'll even have you even though he still lives with his mom (aka his "roommate") and plays video games all day!
@SueAnon84 I do have money, and I work very hard for it, if that's what you're suggesting. If you want to go around spending money you don't have, that's your own fault. Even ugly women still have guys approach them while average guys are left alone as there's always a better guy around.
1. You're just generalizing about that stuff (I did agree that women had the upper hand by the way).2. No I wasn't referring to me, I was just illustrating an example of a woman that can also make mistakes in her younger, "prettier" years. No body is perfect.. unfortunately lol! :)
Well I've always had women hit on me if I hang out in social groups so that's not totally true. I agree a guy isn't going to be hit on if he's walking around Walmart or something lol while that can happen to women.
What makes you say so?
A guy in college can get with someone his moms age easily and when they get older they can get with someone that’s in college.
And a women cannot?
I man doesn’t look down upon for dating someone way younger than him
A man doesn’t get looked*
Well I think people should have the right to be Cougars if they wanted! Fair is fair! :)