Gender different then sex, isn’t innate. I do not think they are saying they have no sex, just that they don’t ascribe to cultural expectations associated with specifically being male or female.. which I don’t have a problem with it can be quite healthy.
Most people I get along with really well are already not confined to gender stereotypes they just don’t label it. I really don’t see the big deal. If I’m attracted to them. I’m sure there will be more NB people I won’t be attracted to then will. Just like with binary people 🤷♀️😊
If they are using gender to mean sex.. well I’m not sure what to say. In this case they are arguing against the idea that sex is one thing and gender another - which seems oddly regressive for someone claiming they can choose if they were born male or female. I’m jut sure I’d be comfortable with this bc I don’t think your sex alone defines you.
It’s a bit too much running Around a fire to avoid getting burnt🤨
Non binary has nothing to do with sex. It’s choosing to not label oneself as a definite man or woman. It’s like choosing to forgo having a definite gender.
I wouldn’t date someone non binary, or it’d be tough. I mean.. I’m into men not only because they have dicks. I like that they’re different than how most women think/feel/express themselves.
No, I wouldn't. I dont have any problem with them, I would befriend such a person but dating is just too personal. My mind is not yet fully accepting of them. Maybe befriending will change my mind
@Tslaveee uhh I don't know what you're talking about. I have absolutely no problem being associated with them in public and hence I said that I would make them my friends, what are you talking about?
@Tslaveee You're being rude. If she is for example straight and wants to date males why would she have to date a genderfluid person? The person might identify with some characteristics one day she is not into so it's understandable. And mentally ill people do often have it hard in life but that's a different topic. I'm also mentally ill and I understand when people have a hard time dealing with my problems. It's unsual for them and they don't know how to act around someone who has it but that doesn't mean they think of a person as less just because of it.
@becks3 rudeness is being honest. If only we acted like children before we were socially conditioned to have filters the world would be a more honest place. But people are too afraid of hurting peoples feeling over the truth yet people always claim they want the real
I prefer dating cis-gender people. I'm not into dating transsexuals in general speaking, but if they can pass as the gender they wants to be hundred percent and if I barely notice any differences I may be fine with it. But they've to be extremely attractive in order to me being fine with it.
When it comes to none binary expressive people it depends on how good looks they've, how they behaves and if it looks too trans or not. I've a huge preference for a cis-gendered look. I think it's a huger turn off with a butch or masculine woman than a feminine man since femininity often tends to be more beautiful. The Sprouse and Carney brothers are feminine with a somewhat none-binary look. That doesn't make them look bad. When I hears about none-binary females I think of masculine looking ones like Rain Dove, Casey Legler and Elliot Sailors. That's a major turn off to me after being old, fat and having a dog.
Serious though, by their own logic you can't be non binary if gender is a construct created by the oppressive heterosexual white male patriarchy. To be non binary is to admit a binary exists. But this would negate the idea that gender is a construct. These people are going out of their way to look ambiguous are basing themselves off already predisposed ideas of feminine and masculine expressions. So really, they are reinforcing gender stereotypes by assuming you have to look a certain way to be non binary, ae; gender neutral clothes that give them a gender defying appearance.
I would not touch that with someone elses dick, its a liberal fad... it's extremely rare to see a gay Republican. The Democrats decided to favor the minorities such as blacks, gays and fat women in this respect to collect a vote... now we have fads such as people that don't understand gender entirely because they where taugh gay is ok... gay is ok but its not a decision you consciously chose... it is cool to be gay now so its ok and socially normal which is probably what you have been taught... gay is a hormone imbalance. Not a decision. That non-binary bullshit is like saying the earth is flat when we have firm evidence its not. Look at this. Have you noticed gay people purposely dress diffrent to show there pride. thats cool but why does a gay person have to dress differently to show they are gay, i dont dress differently to show i like women, it is a fad, it is cool and has taken on its own style that appeals to dumb asses.
"Non binary" is a made up libtard fad (and I say that as someone who leans liberal politically-- I just don't swallow all this ridiculous crap about invented genders etc)
I think everyone here are associating too strongly with their sexual identity and forgetting that if they spent time with a non binary person, they might find themselves become attracted to them.
Also, your sexuality may not be so clear to you once you hit your 30's.
If they can't love what God and science willed them to be, how can they love someone that considers both to be superior to subjective feelings? I don't have to be cruel, per se, but that is a dealbreaker. That, and their statistical link to high occurrence of comorbid serious mental disorders and drug abuse. I'd sooner date a gangster woman. And while a lot of them can make for great casual socialization, that doesn't make them wife material.
I wouldn't date anyone who used the words non binary. Let alone anyone who actually thought they were one. Nor would I date anyone who used the words gender identity. I would not date anyone who thinks there is anything other than male and female. Anyone who thinks oteherwise is majorly scerewd up in the head.
My initial sense is no, but tbh, I really have no clue what it means.
I mean intellectually I can say back the definition.
But I don't GET what it means. I've never met anyone who identified as non-binary. I know trans people, but they're like … they just want to live a normal life as a man or woman. I don't really understand the difference between being n-b versus say being a tomboy. It should be more, but some of them talk like it's not.
If they just mean they don't want to conform to super strict gender roles, like … I dont' think you need a term for that, but if they have one, I don't know if I care.
If they feel like they're a dude half the time, I suspect it's gonna be an issue, because i'm not bi or pan.
If they just feel like they're 'not like other girls', I find it a bit eye rolling, I mean, everyone feels that way, it's almost always sort of true, and sort of not true.
Nope, i don't like the whole ideology around it and we would likely be strongly opposed to each other. But i have fallen for and dated tomboy's, especially if they still enjoy things like long hair so she looks like a girl even if she enjoys more masculine activites and tshirts.
No because they are just an attention whore who wants to feel special (because their is not such thing as "nonbinary", their are two genders and while some times their is cross over, their is still a defining male or female charactersic (and the brains that are more androgynous in structure are rare to begin with). Besides which I am attracted to femininity.
I couldn’t see myself doing that, simply because I’m attracted to people who present as male. I have plenty of non-binary friends. That’s just not the gender I’m attracted to. It doesn’t subtract in any way from it’s legitimacy as a gender.
I'm not opposed to dating an androgynous woman, but I'm very much attracted to a certain level of femininity, so there would definitely have to be something else initially drawing me in, or we'd have to already have a great friendship or something else that would pique my interest.
Also, it's hard to be androgynous with your clothes off, so there's that.
No. Pick one and lll call you that. I don’t care what you identify as, but I don’t accept the notion that you are somehow not male or female. Short of being a hermaphrodite, such a notion doesn’t exist.
See, what you call them is /their/ decision, not yours. You should 100% care about what they identify as. Being someone that is unwilling to tolerate other people's decisions in THEIR lives, you are the problem.
Then they don’t need to be in my life. I do not give a crap what you identify as. But unless you are a hermaphrodite, you are biologically male or female. Want to be seen as male or a female? Cool no problem. But you will not try this shit with me. I’m not some sentimental snowflake.
You don't have to be a sentimental snowflake. All you have to do is shut up and ignore it. They aren't harming you by making a decision in their lives. And blessed be any poor soul that comes across you and wishes to be whomever THEY wish to be because, sorry, this must be YOUR world and we're all just in it. Get over yourself. It isn't and will never be about you or what you think.
Why should I have to ignore nonsense in my life? Not a chance. Harm or not, it’s annoying and illogical. When you are in my life, you are in my world. You don’t like my rules? Get out of my life.
Funny how you attack my character instead of my argument. Good job 👏
No. I mean where would it go? They've not male, or female. Can they even have sex? Would anything happen if they did? If so, what? To confusing for me. I like women, and women only. My wife is bi so the more women the better as long as everyone gets along.
Ugh these terms stress me out I’m learning at work to keep up. No I wouldn’t. My issue comes when I ask what you identify as and someone says “They/them” well where is the other person? It’s confusing.
Probably not. While I do think it's perfectly okay to do that, I'm just not interested in anyone who is going through something like that. It's a huge life decision and most are young, usually too young to know what they want.
Said this somewhere on here already... Long as their born female an still are female... Not so understanding of this.. Its not about what a person considers themself.. But yet how they treat others an how they care for themselves would make most the influence on if I would date them
Realistically why bother with gender and race or anything like that... can we not just all come under "human" because the only thing labels to is allow for seperation... and more importantly... if aliens come to earth theyre not goin to say "oh look a black guy... oh look a white guy" theyll say "oh look a human"... just my opinion
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