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If I was a boy, that would be the type of person to avoid at all cost.
A person undergoing plastic surgery when there is no medical requirement is just an indication that she is a superficial person that has no self confidence, that is succumbing to group/peer pressure to be like the others rather than to be a person of character and have her own opinion.
No, she has to be like all the others and not stand out. That gives me a pretty good indication of what type of personality that lady possesses and that is not the type of woman I would like to spend the rest of my life with. I want somebody that has character, personally but above all a good intellect.
I had plastic surgery when I was 14yo for severe burns and scarring.
If guys "generically" won't date a girl with Plastic Surgery, then I would fall in that category.
I know you are meaning stuff like Boob implants, lips, hips, butts, tummy tucks/liposuction, etc...
Before I started breastfeeding, I was gonna get breast implants to make me go from a small A up to a large C or small D.. I was that desperate... AND if a guy wouldn't date me then, his loss..
Basically said it won't matter to me, as I mind more characteristics. But surely I don't like to touch plastic boobs (read: feels unrealistic) or where she later will have health issues with (read Internet).
No blame on her, but please really reconsider before doing this: Why do you REALLY need a plastic surgery on your boobs? On lips, that looks simply creepy or alien to me. And surely also a transgender is a clear no-go to me (guess why!).
For self-confidence I cannot agree allowing her doing that, I would always love her no matter how "small" her boobs are (small can be nice to grab, while big are nice for boobs-fuck).
If it makes her happy to have it and helps her self esteem and self confidence, then it's her decision. If it's simply to impress me, I would tell her that I would like her with or without the surgery.
In short, it has nothing to do with what I like, but rather what makes that person happy.
Self-confidence should not come from plastic surgery, it should come from herself. I met a woman who has A size and she was not happy until I told her that I don't mind boobs size. We split later due to other concerns (her interest was in my non-existing money, not love) and I later found myself an African with D size and she is not after my money.
@roland77 "Self-confidence should not come from plastic surgery". You're absolutely right, it should not. Unfortunately though self confidence does often come from SELF perception of your looks. Thus cosmetic surgery. Is it ideal, absolutely not. You'd wish confidence would be entirely intrinsic, but unfortunately that's not the reality.
@Cdubs27 Yeah, it isn't reality with all women. :-( I'm happy I found myself self-confident women so far, not those types asking us guys to pay expensive surgery for their "self-confidence" or "self-expression" thingy. I do down-vote such opinions here because it shows that their character is empty to me, means it has no class/style.
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I got my front tooth punched out at 19. I went above and beyond to cosmetic surgery implant that cost $5000 over a courseof a year, that ultimately got me the ability to use the "th" sound in words like "tooth". Also stopped my lettuce in my burgers pulling out and flopping on my chin. Ultimately the best $5000 I've ever spent.
Just at the cost of my mental bandwidth of everyday life of focusing on my mouth for a year cost me more then $5000. From the day i got it out i was planning on getting it fixed. Couldn't imagine a life long anxiety that haunted me in the same way.
Cosmetic surgery is ultimately an investment. My own self image is more important. How is anyone going to like me when i hate myself. $5000 is an easy fix compared to my other problems.
@roland77 the fight was with my cousin that was already up shit creek without a paddle in terms of money, settlement was going to be more then it's worth paying a lawyer.
I still make the joke you own me half when he gets pissy at me. That's when we tell each other to fuck off. That's added value onto itself.
We’d probably be dating before I even knew. That’s not something that comes up in a normal conversation unless she’s open about it. I can’t really tell if something is fake or not.
If it looked abnormal or something I’d most likely assume it’s a medical condition and wouldn’t ask about it. But plastic surgery wouldn’t be the first thing to pop to my mind unless someone pointed it out to me.
I’m gullible like that 😅. If she told me she had fake whatever I’d still date her. Unless she was trans.
@Badballie Depending on nothing? What if she was not self-confident with her "small" boobs and "needs bigger" for bigger self-confidence? Then that means a lot to me and I would probably not date her. Luckily mine has natural boobs (already saw them on authentic pictures of her).
I think plastic surgery is generally immoral because it tells other women with the same body type that they're not good enough, & it gives profit to companies that profit off of making women feel bad about themselves
If they got in a car accident and ended up with a big cut on their head and a plastic surgeon sewed it up to make sure they weren’t left with a visible scars then there is no issue there. If they aren’t happy being themselves and are getting nose jobs, fake tits, etc. then I’d avoid them if I notice it.
For me, plastic surgery is very normal in my family.
Nearly all my friends and family have gone under the knife, I wouldn't do it myself because everything I want done I know I can fix myself. But as a kid, I didn't really understand this so I nearly got double eye-lid surgery. But luckily, during the time I was too busy to get an appointment.
A persons body is their own. If they choose to get surgery for their own reasons than they shouldn't feel ashamed for doing so. Honestly, if you won't date someone because they've had surgery than that's more of a testament to your own poor character than theirs.
prefer a more natural look. over a fake look.
however if they had it done because they had an accident. so they just wanted to repair/replace the damaged area. to make it look close to how they looked before. then that would be fine by me.
borrowed this some another person but it fits well with my idea. *If its corrective surgery, yes. if its cosmetic surgery, no*
2 of my friends have lip filler injections which they look kind of weird not bad but it’s their face. If it makes them happy then so be it. I would date a guy with reasonable plastic surgery. Like my friend had back Lipo don’t know the right word but no amount of exercise was getting rid of what he had.
Depends really, I've soon on reddit that some women use it to cover up ugly scars and i get that + I'm fine with that. For me personally the only way i wouldn't date someone that does plastic surgery is if it's a regular thing that for a non medical ( or mental) reason. Cuz it's does cost a lot of money and gives health problems apparently so that's a yes and no answer from me
not gonna deliberately go after anyoen who has or doesn't have plastic surgery as i believe the personality is more attractive... and if they have a good personality then I know i'd find them attractive either way
It depends, sometimes people get plastic surgery to reconstruct part of their face after being badly burned or something like that, and often that's not super noticable. The more subtle it is the better, if it's hugely (no pun intended) apparent they've had 'work' done, probably not.
As long as it's not excessive. If they got some filler in their nose or some injections to keep wrinkles away then yea. I just dont want to date someone who looks like their face is made of melted plastic.
Depends, if it's just a small adjustment, dont for more confidence. It's totally fine.
However, when it actually gets noticeable and isn't for confidence, but rather for actual looks. Then it's a big no. It looks awful, and the personality around someone doing it is just as awful
It does not matter, she is still who she is on the inside
Depends. Generally I'm against it and often I think plastic surgery even when successful doesn't make the person look better. But there are some exeptions.
If a person doesn't look ridiculous or obvious, it shouldn't matter.
@Screenwriter It does matter to me because it means the person doesn't like themselves the way they are and that's not a good thing.
Actually, not true. Some folks get plastic surgery to correct physical and medical defects such as deviated septums, cleft palates, club foots, bad scars or other body problems. Sometimes the way we're born is outside the norm. I don't have a problem with corrective surgery. I think breast enlargement is foolish or turning every nose into something small and turned up is equally silly. If a nose is badly broken or twisted or difficult to breathe through, get it fixed.
@Screenwriter While not explicitly stated I think the question is about elective plastic surgery and not the kind you're talking about. They're two quite different things in my opinion.
Depends how apparent it is, the more plastic they seem the less attractive they are to me. I personally don't like Kim Kardashian body or Niki Minaj's body just to name some examples.
Depends on how much she's altered herself and her reason for it. Kim Kardashian, as far as celebrities go was one of the most beautiful and attractive women in the world to me. Now she looks so different.
Boobs/lipo I don’t mind but Botox creates a look I don’t like. It would really vary on the individual and the quality of work.
Mrs. #Boombastic with boobs of plastic? ;-)
She’s fantastic! Lol
A version of C - It is not a dealbreaker but my personal preference is the natural look so obvious plastic surgery may cloud my judgement
I would be willing to date a woman whose had plastic surgery but I would discourage her to have more if the situation came up
With the exeption of an accident like she I don't know had been in a fire and her breasts burned down or aynthing like that. No. If you can't accept what you have or work naturaly towards it... no
Depends on how much she's into it. If it was a one time thing or something she's always been self conscious about then not an issue. If she's always talking about it and seems addicted to it then no thanks.
I have. I don’t know if it was out of the normal or botched plastic surgery but her breasts felt like hard little tennis balls. I prefer natural. I also have a cousin whose implants ruptured. Years later she is still fight medical issues over it.
There's nothing wrong with changing it up a bit if its how you want to look. People should have the right to look how they want without being shamed for it. If they look in the mirror and like what they see when they didn't before, whats the issue?
thats not the question. just cos someone shouldn't shame them doesn't mean someone should want to date them. i would never date a girl with plastic surgery
cos people dont want someone who is fake. thats why dudes be out here takin girls swimming on a first date to see em without makeup
@DeshawnMGTOW Lets play a game. Their is a theoretical girl that has an ugly face and guys won't date her because of it. She has facial reconstructive surgery and now she's a 10. You still won't date this girl because now she's "fake". If you won't date this girl one way or another it's a reflection of your character, not hers.
I get that this is opinion based, but that doesn't mean a person doesn't have the right to call somebody else out on a shitty opinion.
@Cdubs27 there is no facial reconstructive surgery that turns a girl who is "ugly" into a 10. and that is some grade A bullshit. I dont want to be with someone who feels the need to waste gigantic amounts of money on something superficial. I think plastic surgery is creepy af and it also has health risks.
My opinion is completely valid. I saw some dude asked a question bout men wearing fake hair last week and many women were saying theyd be turned off. I didn't see your white knight ass coming there telling them their opinion was shitty because they wanted to date someone natural.
@DeshawnMGTOW Exactly that is what most people don't put into their head/heart: health risks! Look around on search engine how many surgeries went horribly wrong and the woman/guy (penis enlargement can go badly wrong, too) is getting nothing back in damage (lawsuit failed).
We have to stop that bullshit-industry!
@DeshawnMGTOW 1. I'll repeat, that is a theoretical girl in a theoretical situation. It was only designed to paint a picture. If you can't see or understand that picture, than that's a you problem.
2. Quit with the deflections, them being willing to take a risk (albeit usually a small one depending on the surgery) is completely up to them and completely unrelated to your reasoning about whether you would date them. Additionally, pointing to a different situation that affects guys has no impact on your opinion here. That's just another form of deflection.
3. I never invalidated your opinion. I said you have a shitty opinion. Example: You can have a completely logistical opinion about a certain racial culture, but that doesn't mean your opinion isn't racist as fuck.
4. You can use as many words as you want, but at the end of the day if you can't date someone because they had cosmetic surgery than all it means is that you're mad judgy.
@Cdubs27 Please come back to topic (means what @tiajoka writes) or go PM with him. I won't like my girlfriend if she has undergone a plastic surgery for only "feeling better" or so simply because that means no self-confidence in her to me. And I will ask her opinion about this for you. :-)
As I can speak only for myself, I *prefer* real, means natural boobs, lips and pussy, not dislike plastic at all unless it feels unreal and/or could mean health issues to her. I want her to be healthy and not a "perfect body woman" or so.
What Roland77 said. Claiming im deflectin just cos you can't answer is invalid. The reason why you can't answer is because we have VALID opinions and you some white knight SIMP who is just tryna defend women rather than use your brain.
People are attracted to what they attracted to. We don't like women who feel the need to be fake and waste thousands on surgery that is NOT needed and has health risks. Stfu with your judgy accusation bullshit.
@roland77 this is going to sound super rude and i'm sorry for this but my response was to deshawns response of "just cos someone shouldn't shame them doesn't mean someone should want to date them. i would never date a girl with plastic surgery", nobody was ever actually talking to you. So don't come at me with that "please come back on topic" remark unless you call him out on it as well.
As for your comments about surgeries that have gone "horribly wrong", while that is true it is more a scare tactic. While surgery is always a risk, the chances of something going wrong are not actually super common (statistically speaking). In fact usually the issue is that the patient didn't do their homework and went to a doctor that was cheaper but had a bad reputation. Over 50% of malpractice suits were performed by only 5% of doctors ( healthresearchfunding.org/.../ line 38).
@roland77 most people who get surgery do so because of some sort of insecurity. If you won't date her because of a lack of confidence than power to you for preferring women with a strong sense of self. Although I always appreciate the opinion of somebody that has experienced it (your girlfriend), that does not mean the experience of one is a representation of the whole.
It depends on what kind and how it looks... also if she does it while we are together... as in she is altering the person I fell for.
I dont like people trying to be plastic, natural is better
Hard to say, but if it was something minor or to fix an injury, then I probably wouldn't care too much.
Much less likely as its usually a turn off for me and also an indication she is not compatible with me on a mental front.
I feel as though I won't be dateable (if ever) because I would be needing a breast lift after breastfeeding 😖
Lol lucky her. Me not so
Was it for medical reasons? How does it look? Because the Jenner girl, im honestly not sure which one that is, looked way better before the surgeries. I remember that much.
All I care about is that I find the woman attractive. I couldn't care less how much or how little cosmetic surgery she's had.
Date sure. Marry nope.
A friend had breast implants. He teenage daughter wonders why she isn't developing like her mom. Awkward conversation ensued. Daughter crushed she will never look like mommy. Poor kid.
id date a guy with plastic surgery. As long as they looked cute before too or had a kind personality.
Nope if I was already dating her I would give her the benefit of the doubt. But if I already knew probably wouldn't pursue her.
No, just because i don't like girls with a lot of curves (i prefer flat ones, more interesting for me)
If it’s reconstructive like from an accident or to correct a birth defect yes. If it was for pure vanity no
Depends on the reasons for it.
To correct a legitimate problem, wouldn't be a turn off.
To inflate lips and whatever else, it would be a problem.
Those Kardashians look ridiculous, not great. That is what happens when you exagerate.
I mean, Ken loved Barbie even though she was 100% plastic...
Well, she DID go to a lot of trouble and expense to LOOK more attractive, but, from what I've seen, most of them didn't need it!!
I think it would be funny to have a child with the most beautiful girl in the world because she had plastic surgery and genetically see that your child is ugly and be surprised by it.
I wouldn't date a woman that had butt implants and lip injections. If she had breast implants or something it's ok with me as long as she didn't went overboard
If people are really unhappy and the surgery can be performs with minimal risk, then why not?
Most likely not. They need to be confident with themselves without the need for surgery
Some plastic surgery looks so fake i'd find it off putting. I prefer a natural look on a women.
Nose job or other cosmetic surgery, maybe.
Boob job, no.
If it's not overdone and doesn't feel so fake then sure why not but if I can tell that they're fake then I want nothing to do with it.
Nope!!! That’s almost like dating a guy with a fake dick lol
@sheepdip Okay, sure mine is then unnatural (for medical/hygiene reasons being removed in childhood, fine with me all along), I can live with that. :-) Still I found it "faking" when men enlarge them to impress girls with it. Mine is "natural size", means good. :-) Or as my girlfriend once commented: "That looks biiiig." ;-)
Depends on the surgery for me. If it was something basic, I'm fine. But major reconstructive surgery for any reason other than a catastrophic injury, absolutely not.
Only if it doesn't look weird (balloon tits, funny lips, etc).
Nothing wrong with plastic surgery, we shall embrace technologi and the miracles it can achieve. Valid as long as you're still in the 'normal' params, like... no duck face and no barbie looks, if it looks bad is bad!
Finding a girl without plastic surgery is as hard as finding pearls at sea. I don't like plastic surgery.
I am pretty sure I'd say a good amount of women have already had plastic done to some varying degree. Maybe even just a tiny bit of work on the face.
I'd prefer them to be completely natural, but honestly it doesn't matter. Most people won't know unless you tell them anyways
Which type of plastic surgery? I was just with a woman who had her fair share, I wasn't a fan.
Depends on which surgery, the reason, and how natural they look.
Not with the amount of plastic surgery this woman got
I live in the present. Unless we are talking about a trans then nopeeeeeeeeee
*Because if they don't love themselves to the point that they changed their fucking sexual parts so, why should I love them?*
Gender dysmorphia is a mental condition in the same manner as depression. Are people with depression also unlovable to you?
*moreover I am Not fucking gay*
Neither are the people who end up in relationships with trans people, for the most part. They just find them attractive, so at best they are bisexual, but the trend seems to be that heterosexuals end up in relationships with trans people, m2f trans people in particular.
@IamAboyXD Good you make your stand not to accept transgenders, same (no) feelings here, too. I don't feel love for them either.
*I am who I am. I dgasf about the trend cuz I'm not a brainless dog*
You'll forgive me for disagreeing in that case. Dude, you're 17, almost by definition you're an idiot.
I'm not saying you *have* to like something. I'm saying keep an open mind and don't be scared to try things.
*Good you make your stand not to accept transgenders*
Are trans people not deserving of acceptance? Acceptance doesn't mean you have to fuck them.
@sheepdip Well, Teenagers stereotypes will always be present in adults minds aren't they? Whenever we try to express ourselves you (Adults) thinking that you are superiour humain beings, caractrise us as rebelious, *idiots by defention*, immature and lazy ignoring completely WTF we were talking about meanwhile every single human being was a teenager at some point. Back to our topic. I don't beleive that dysphoria is a real mental thing nevertheless I believe that estrogen or testosteron can be higher than avarege in some cases nontheless it doesn't mean that you can chub your dick off or add one moreover even if they did the surgery they will still be not satisfied about how they look and they will enter an endless cycle of depression and nope I am not trying to be EDGY or SPECIAL, the whole thing is disgusting (for me).
*Well, Teenagers stereotypes will always be present in adults minds aren't they? Whenever we try to express ourselves you (Adults) thinking that you are superiour humain beings, caractrise us as rebelious, *idiots by defention*, immature and lazy ignoring completely WTF we were talking about meanwhile every single human being was a teenager at some point.*
Oh bless, you're so misunderstood. Don't worry, I'm sure your dad will day "I love you" to you at some point.
Adults were teenagers - so they know what the experience is like and have the perspective age, distance and experience grant. That is why we know teenagers are flawed thinkers.
*I don't beleive that dysphoria is a real mental thing*
Then you're not in alignment with the established medical authority and are saying things counter to reality.
*nontheless it doesn't mean that you can chub your dick off or add one*
Setting aside the desire to feel completely authentic in your own body, and the lack of empathy you have for that, what is morally wrong with making an informed decision about your body and its integrity?
All my cards on the table here; I don't like the idea of it - I think it allows people to harm themselves in permanent and unforseen ways. However, I don't have the right to infringe on someone else's right to bodily autonomy.
*moreover even if they did the surgery they will still be not satisfied about how they look and they will enter an endless cycle of depression*
Firstly, about half the people on the planet are depressed - depression is not the inability to cope with life (extremes exist however), depression is something a lot of us deal with by the simple act of having hobbies and socialising or going to the gym.
Secondly - the transition helps manage the depression. It is often what keeps the person alive as opposed to dead.
Thirdly- its not necessarily about *looking* s certain way, more that its about *feeling* a certain way.
*and nope I am not trying to be EDGY or SPECIAL, the whole thing is disgusting (for me).*
These people disgust you? Trans people disgust you? Is my assessment here correct?
*@sheepdip Call me being scared or being an idiot, I really DON'T CARE for any form of transgender, especially those with penis between the legs.*
Ok, first question; what do you mean by *DONT CARE*? Are you using it as a colloquial "I hate them" or a simple statement of neutral sentiment?
Second question; what do you find objectionable about a m2f Trans person.
*reasoning*
Is that what you were attempting?
I have never said you need to do anything - something I was quiet clear about. I do however think removing someone from the category of people you *can* love, based on actions they take that don't affect you, is silly.
You won't catch "the gay". You'll learn this when you grow up.
It's a hard no for me, unless the plastic surgery was for reconstructive reasons.
preferably no, how do I know what my kids r gunna look like will they need it too?
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