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The labels really don't matter to me that much. I have known some women who can tear down and rebuild engines and transmissions, and some women who look dainty in a dress and are at home at a society event. Some of those women are the same women. I have a real respect for people who can do things, whether male or female, masculine or feminine, dainty or otherwise.
One of the most feminine women I knew way back when asked me, while dressed to the nines at a formal dinner, if I thought women could learn to ride motorcycles. I looked at her, thought, "I'm going to take a chance here." and replied, "No part of the motorcycle is controlled by genitals. If the woman has hands and feet, and a brain and eyes, nothing says she can't ride a motorcycle." We were together for 7 years. I still miss the good times we had when we were people first, and boy / girl second.
I'm sorry, I don't mean to sound like an ass, but in truth what I look for in a woman is a Caring, Giving, Loving, Very Sexual and Strong woman, on the inside, The outside I like Her To be fit or close to it, I like a hard body, Don't get me wrong... I love it.
On the Other hand, I don't want her hard or harder than I am.
Damn, This question is harder to answer than I thought w/o sticking ur foot in your mouth.
I like a hard body but a Curvy, Soft & Supple Woman, With a femimine voice, Her voice has to be at least 5 octives higher than mine.
After reading some of these replies from the guys, I realize I am definitely going to single for a LONG time.
I'm not very feminine; I'm a tomboy and proud of it! I realize most guys prefer "girly girls," which is fine.
But you can be masculine AND still be a woman as well!
Do you shave the pits?
@Random_Guy_Online Oh my gosh yes! LOL.
Trust me I: shave, bath regularly, wash my hair, brush my teeth, and use nice smelling lotions. I'm not that bad :)
Ok good😂, you shouldn't have a problem finding a guy then
Yeah, you are 100% feminine.
by the way, nothing wrong with tomboys!
Have you looked at yes no ratings/percentages?
I don't think a lot of people think you can't be masculine as a woman. They're just saying that it's not their preference when it comes to dating.
@AD240pCharlie Which is fair, I understand that most guys rather not date a girl that's masculine; it makes them feel like they're dating a guy (lol). I'm just saying that some of us that do have masculine traits shouldn't be overlooked; if anything, we're worth giving a chance as well!
@Guanfei Haha, no. While I refuse to post my real life image online, I can assure you, I DO look like a female! I have curves/a figure. I just come off masculine in some of my behavior- such as I love tackle football, play wrestling, I don't mind getting dirty if I have to, I prefer guys over girls as friends (platonically), I hate makeup and dressing up... things of that nature. Can I be feminine? Of course. I'm just not your typical female and I'm quite proud of that.
Well, everyone has a different perspective of what "feminine" means, though. Personally, I don't see it being as much about your looks or the way you dress as the way you present yourself. Being feminine for me means being kind, gentle and things like that. You can dress like a man, enjoy video games and all those things while still being feminine in my view, so I don't care about that when it comes to dating.
This place isn't a representative of real life, don't worry babe
I don’t let guys push me around anymore and since that it’s very hard for me to find someone.
Probably a blessing in disguise
@hsshannah96 Girl, same here! That's thing about being independent: guys realize you don't put up with nonsense so they're wary to mess with you or approach you.
It's good in a way, but it always makes dating SO much harder too! The few guys that do talk to me just see me as a close friend or "one of the guys." :|
@hsshannah96 What's so unfeminine about not letting other people abuse you? You can be kind, gentle and respectful without being harsch. The strongest and most independent people I know are also the most kindhearted.
@AD240pCharlie exactly. I have tried the kind and respectful way and guys just don’t seem to respond to that sadly
@hsshannah96 That's kinda what I mean. People who can stand up for themselves don't become rude or harsch when they're not being confronted. In normal social situtions, they are still respectful and kind towards other people.
I don’t think guys mind if a girl is masculine at all, just as long as they aren’t more masculine than the guy, it’s a pride thing.
I kinda relate to your issues, as I have a lot of hobbies and interests that would make girls think I am a "fag" due to them being not traditionally masculine
@Michael__1 no bro no. it's different. What kinda man would want to date with masculine, tomboy girl? No one. This is natural in relationships. Love is exceptional.
Lmaoo 🤣 I’m not bi so I’m just looking at other answers here but I understand what you mean by non feminine vs feminine. However my question is why is natural hair considered less feminine? I love philosophizing about these sorts of things bc they don’t logically make much sense.
Only to a certain limit
Guys don't shave their pits, whats wrong with us not shaving them, it grows naturally on all of us
It is absurd that guys don't want to date girls with body hair, when in reality their girlfriend could actually have more natural body hair than the girls they talk down on. If we wouldn't shave, you guys would have nobody to date! The absurdity of it all is: women have as much natural body hair as men, only the structure and length differs slightly. I have to shave when I want to be classified as a girl, but if I didn't, I would have just as much visible body hair as other guys at my age, just slightly shorter and straighter, but not much of a difference. It's no exaggeration, it's reality. The reality is purposefully hidden from you. I wanted my boyfriend to see the reality, but, unfortunately, he wasn't open to seeing it. I'm not a man when I have body hair, I'm a real girl. I understand the love for smooth skin, but you guys, should be open to reality, because otherwhise you live a hard illusion. I'm sorry for being so straight forward.
Who said anything about body hair? Or armpit hair? @OptimisticDaria
It's true what you are saying @OptimisticDaria and @Neugier. I watched a film recently called "I am not an easy man" it was on Netflix on my region you girls might like it (at least watch the trailer). I understand my girlfriend can grow decent hair, but you are right most guys don't know, and they don't know the effort or pain.
Oh and if someone does do a my take, the girl in A is called Flo, you can read about her here: www.dazeddigital.com/.../masculinity-female-butch-lesbian-lgbtq-gay-non-binary-jess-kohl
@PeterAyre
Thanks for the info, I'll have to check that out
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My first girlfriend was actually what is in English called, a Tomboy. And I loved her a lot. It's actually convenient. Men are generally expected to do the chores, women be like protecting their nails, don't want to get dirty, trying to keep their makeup intact. Not her. She'd always help me if I needed help. My only other girlfriend was pretty feminine, and didn't do this stuff. Well, she didn't even live close to me (my first girlfriend was a neighbor, and she'd run to help as soon as she saw me doing something), so that might be the case, but anyways. I loved them both equally.
What does "unfeminine" entail? Wearing Jean's? Little to no makeup? Being muscular? Likening things that are traditionally considered male activities like sports or videogames? Because virtually no woman wears makeup and dresses and obsesses over "girly" things all the time
It entails armpit hair, apparently 😂
@Random_Guy_Online is that it?
Whats up with the armpit hair hate, everyones got it, guys dont shave it
I think it depends on the woman and on who the man is. I’m very girly and have a friend who is tomboyish and she gets more attention than I do from men so there definitely are men who will date tomboyish women but I’m not sure exactly about masculine women. The woman in the first pic really needs to shave her armpits though. That’s gross
i like girlier girls more, i think, but i can hang with dykey-looking girls or chicks who are grease-monkeys or have other less stereotypically femine traits or hobbies.
actually all 3 are super hot in their own way, especially if they really rock the style or seem comfy in being themselves. that's the best.
I was just like to point out that this is a very unfair choice for a lot of men and does not necessarily portray the situation in the question. Picture 1 is the picture of a dude, and picture 2 is my future wife! If you want to be fair and use a good visual example you should use two separate pictures of women, as opposed to a picture of a guy, and a picture of a girl. I'm just saying. Doing it this way kind of skews people's opinions in favor of no. in fact just because of the situation I seriously doubt you're going to get an accurate response.
Depends on what you mean by not feminine. Most women that call them selves not feminine are still feminine in my opinion, The following image is what an unfeminine woman is to me.. If you're not like that then you're more than feminine enough for me.. If that makes sense.
I'm attracted to feminine girls abd prefer to date them. Nothing "wrong" with a girl being more masculine of course, but tomboys just don't entice me sexually or romantically. Some guys are more feminine and prefer the girl to be more masculine, so there's a match for everyone.
Sexist scum, ALL WOMEN ARE BEUTIFUL IN THERE OWN WAY.
Who is sexist scum?
The people that are too stupid to live
Thanky thanky
I'm one of those sexist scums too and I'm a MGTOW Monk on top of that. I was having trouble figuring it out, why I and so many others have gone MGTOW. Thanks for helping me out with that.
No, but with a caveat. There is a loooooooong continuum between "unfeminine" and wearing a pink semi-formal and carrying a nosegay of flowers.
How about a nice Israeli Army commando girl?

Gotta love how men drool over these terrorists just because they are attractive.
@CubsterShura how is this girl terrorist
Ever saw how they torture innocent Palestinians?
@CubsterShura Are Palestinians really innocent?
I'll kick you out of your house to live in it, and when you will protest for your property I'll ask if you really are innocent for annoying me.
And fine, you don't want to believe Palestinians are innocent? Ok granted. Why do they torture KIDS then? You want me to believe the kids are not innocent? Why can't Israel just leave the innocent civilians alone and kill the actual culprits?
Because there is no real culprit. The real culprit is Israel, period.
@CubsterShura i think they see Palestinians as someone who want to take over their country. I mean jews finally get a country that also gets attacked by Palestinians and Arab countries, they are definitely taking the hard route this time.
I am not defending the Israelites coz they have become inhumane in stopping the rebellion but maybe Palestinians also need to be stop being so communal.
@AkshiJanjua Don't you dare being religion into this. They got a country? No they didn't. They kicked OTHERS out of THEIR country. How about I kick you out of your property and tell you 'ah I've been homeless my whole life let me have my own fucking home now'?
@CubsterShura i don't think you know the whole history
@AkshiJanjua yeah the whole history is that people decided Jews need a country out of pity and decided it has to happen at the expense of kicking Palestinians out of their homes.
And doesn't even matter what the history is when Israelis torture innocent Palestinians like that.
I like strong women like this but they are still feminine.

Are you a strong woman Cindy? 😗
oooooooohhhh yeah
Physically god no lol
that gal in the picture don't look that strong, but that's the style?
@LEADFOOTboi that girl in the picture is Juli Firso and is training in multiple combat disciplines and competes in Muay Thai, kickboxing, and jiu-jitsu tournaments. 😉😎
Come on Cindy I bet you can fight. 😋😎
fighting dont necessarily take raw strenght, but some helps... disciplines take better to endurance and speed... toning, and i can tell she got that...
@alongcamecindy can probly fight... but don't push her XD
The woman in the first pic could be feminine and that might just be a photo, and the woman in the second pic might be a tomboy/Butch and that photo might have just been a photo as well. Femininity goes far beyond these mere pictures.
yes as long as she was still affectionate.
Regardless of her personality, I would still like to cuddle, share little kisses and just nice little romantic stuff like that.
But if she was too cold or robotic or just not interested in affection then I could not date her.
Never. That is very unattractive to me. Unfeminine women are not wife and mother material.
*counting the downvotes*
Besides the armpit hair, the tomboy girl looks really hot. If I was a guy I would want a girl who's just in the middle. Not too girly or makeup/fashion obsessed but is well put together.
Define "un-feminine" you can still be a tomboy and still maintain a degree of femininity. One of the most amazing women i know is a bit of a tomboy. It's because she knows who she is. She not ashamed of being that person and that self confidence is incredibley sexy. But when the situation calls for it she can ditch the blue jeans for a dress and she crushes it. Basically it's her incredible heart that shows through all the time. She genuinely cares about other people.
Yes, I'd try to force her into clothes on special occasions like weddings and so forth but causally I'd be totally fine with it as long as we will still both affectionate with each other rather than acting like a couple of dudes
Yes. Tom-Boys are very attractive. Celeste Bonin is very attractive and she's very Tom-Boyish.
I'd go as far as saying that I prefer it, to very girly.
No, I am not into the butch types at all
I haven't met too many women who were actually unfeminine. They may express their femininity differently or not look the same as what is considered the feminine ideal in the cultural norms of the time but not unfeminine
The masculine ones are the girls I go for honestly, I'm not a top 😂
I don't mind dating tomboys. Even if a girl is 'masculine' she is still a girl and she can be feminine in a different way. Beauty exists in different varieties.
It depends on how. She can be a grease monkey and have as many male hobbies or interests as she wants but I wouldn't want one that become masculine as a person.
"Masculine as a person" What does that even mean?
What's a male attitude?
Yes absolutely, but the armpit hair is a dealbreaker for me. The girl in the top picture I would date if she didn't have armpit hair.
I am not a lesbian so neither way i would. But girls with rude behaviour and use curse words a lot is pretty evident that they are just unattractive
What would be the point of that? Literally the defining attractive attribute of the opposite sex and she doesn't have it? Why date then?
Yes yes yes, my wife is just like a guy but has tits and a twat.
I'm more feminine then she is. At least that what she says
unfeminin how? like she has a dick? what does unfeminine even mean cause both pictures look feminine to me
the top one looks feminine?
I would consider her masculine from her pose, facial expression, hairy arm pits lol but fair enough
Of those? Neither just inbetween
So what makes a girl not feminine? is it the hairy armpits? In some areas women do not shave under their arms. That does not mean they are not feminine, it means others judge them on what they do not know about them.
I mean I am not looking for Butch as a girlfriend but a little hair doesn't bother me.
I prefer her to be feminine but also can have a so called tomboy side that likes to ride dirtbikes for example. Now if she was one that was mainly tomboy whose main foot wear are boots like this similar to this then that is too tomboy for me.

I can handle one that likes to camp and hike for example but still would need a feminine style moresssthan not even if uts an alternative style.
I'm bisexual and to me it depends on how masculine she is. I like a woman who is kind of masculine.
I'm extremely masculine but I'm not gay or bi... so if boys don't like me or if no one lets me be myself in general, then I might as well just be nonbinary or be aromantic cuz fk people let me be myself damnit
@Zach1457 Im just sick of people in real life telling me that I can't do something or act a certain way cause Im girl and they keep trying to tell me im bi for acting a certain way and Im just mad.
Like the other day my friends were comparing nail lengths and mine are short and bitten due to anxiety not because I like other girls... god damn stereotypes
@Zach1457 thats fine lol. I have a shy side to me as well so by masculine, I just mean hobbies and how I don't like feminine activities at all. But my personality is still pretty sensitive and sort of emotional
Most girls don’t dress up or do makeup on a daily basis. I think as long as you don’t act walk or talk like a man , you should be fine
The underarm hair is disgusting. If she expects a man to do anything manly like open doors or pay for dates or whatever, then she needs to at least shave her body hair.
I prefer a girly girl but I don’t mind if she has a little tomboy in her , I just don’t want her dressing like a dude lol
I find that even a lot of the "tough" ones are still feminine in some ways. They can be fun to hang out with.
Sorry but no, I like feminine women. If you dont want to be feminine, that's fine thats your right. Just dont complain if not as many guys are attracted to you. Just like women are attracted to masculine men, us guys like feminine women.
I am open to the ideal of dating either or. however I prefer a woman in the middle. nice 50/50 or 60/40 blend
I used to get in my head about this until I started seeing some of my ugly friends get married. Then I looked at couples in public. There’s plenty of hot guys with girls who have short hair or wear sweats or who never do their makeup.
Any Woman is not unfeminine! Femininity comes with being a woman; some chose not to show it, but deep down there's no escaping it! I'd rather have a tougher woman than a total pristine Woman!
As a woman myself I believe it doesn't matter if your feminine or unfeminine. What matters is how you see yourself and the person you date see you.
I'm a tomboy and don't dress girly and i have a boyfriend so...🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️
The first one really doesn't try to look like a women tho. She might be more feminine if she wasn't dressed like that. I might be into her then, but generally no, i would prefer a more feminine women, which is not just about "wear pink".
Every woman has a feminist about her though a woman who's very unfeminine or is manly in her mannerisms or stands and moves like a man is usually a lesbian case in point Ellen Page who is real pretty yet she stands and runs like a man.
I was going to joke and say only if she had a big Dick but I couldn't even do that.
Depends on *how* unfeminine. Completely? No. Just enough to not be "girly"? Yes.
Unfeminine intellectually and emotionally, yes.
Physically, no.
Usually do, just don’t have anything in common with girly girls
Not for me but I do there is something about under arm hair...
Nope! If I wanted a masculine partner, I’d go gay and date those who do it best: men 😅
Yes.
But that armpit hair is a deal breaker.
Would have one night stand with A. Would marry B and later tolerate her if she became like A.
Yep. I'm a lesbian, and I find masculine women just as attractive as feminine women.
Yes, most of people think is "unfeminine" or "unmasculine" is simply someone's personality traits.
Of course, as long as she has a good ass and and legs, indeed it will be more fun, open a world of possibilities. like she can lift me and put my cock in her, and then I do the same to her... More games to play
I mean to some degree I can. If she's like a tomboy that is perfectly fine, but if she is like that chick with the hair armpits, hard pass sorry lol.
No such a thing as "feminine" or "masculine". These are social constructs 😁
But I do love beautiful women.
I have. Unfortunately she turned out to be a lesbian. But on the bright side, she was super low maintenance.
But sometimes there's something hot about a tomboy.
Define feminine. Most people can't be put in a box.
I like femininity too much, I'm afraid. I have dated tomboys, and that was okay. I think the best mix for me is a girly girl who isn't afraid to crawl around in the mud.
I would not date unfeminine girl at all, I prefer feminine girls, girly girls.
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