I've always considered a first date dinner an interview opportunity, doubtless as does she.
In 'polite society' picking up the tab for this evening is 'quid pro quo' recompense
for consuming a portion of my date's prime-of-life's waking hours she'll never get back.
And if she's equally pragmatic, she's 'tarted up' dressed to her nines empowering HER
by HIS appetites... to deserve... to elect... where this interaction progresses to.
In the greater scheme of things, 'Courtship'~
In MOST species, she who potentially gestates THE ovums, dictates terms~
Otherwise, as fertility wanes; relationships are essentially cuddly 'platonic'.
Life teaches that the One least emotionally-invested, dictates 'terms'.
The two aren't related in my mind. If a girl likes you enough for a second date while you're still on the first one, a guy will know it most of the time.
You know coach, I think it's kind of funny (as in funny pathetic and sad, not funny ha-ha), that some women think they should pay for their own meal in order to feel "free and clear of any implied obligations, especially sexual". If a woman accepts a date with a guy and thinks he's the type of man who will expect you to "owe him something, sexual or not" if you DON'T pay your own way... don't you think that's NOT the guy you want to be dating in the first place? If a guy gives off that vibe, why would you date him even once?
I just won't go out to eat with any man anymore then... Problem solved...
And then people wonder why dating, relationships fail these days 🤷🏼♀️ Anyone who has to make a big deal out of such a minor petty detail🤷🏼♀️
And just because someone pays for your dinner is no obligation or guarantee they'll like you or have sex with you, nor should it be...
If who pays is such an issue, then don't ask em out to eat... Again, there's so many free things that can do...
Out of politeness and habit, I will always offer to pay for my share or go dutch. Of course, if the guy insists on paying everything, it is also fine by me. I will also not argue with him over it. I will just say I will pick up the tab on the next date.
For me, whoever is paying, is not an indication that I like the guy.
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I've heard of girls that use dates to get free food so I'm gonna say no to this...
For guys- Beware of women who wudn't even offer to pay or split. They may be freeloaders and may be seeing many guys everyday for a free meal.
I understand you might feel emasculated if a woman pays for your food but you need to be a bit smart.
nope but if we insist on paying our own we really don't like you
I paid for a date I didn't enjoy any bit of to "clear myself of any debt or obligation" to the arrogant asshole who turned out to be a huge disappointment. He was willing to pay but I didn't allow him to because I didn't want him to think I might like him even just a bit. Paying for the meal was my way of "buying myself out of an obligation" and future contact.
Not necessarily.
It can be that she just feels she deserves that free meal after spending hours with you.
Or she doesn't want to appear as an angry feminist.
Or she avoids confrontations.
Or she might like him but she goes home, starts thinking and nah, next.
Of course she might like him too. Not enough information to decide.
No, some women think they're entitled to never pay for a date, regardless of their interest.
In my case, I'd like to split the bill or pay for what I consume if I don't want to see him ever again, as I'd feel in debt with the guy in question. Otherwise I can let him pay once and next time it will be my treat.
No I thought it was the man's job to pay for the date. If she accepts a second date that's when she wants to go on another.
I wouldn’t assume that. If it’s someone 40 or older, I’d assume it’s because she expects the guy to pay. A younger woman is more likely to be thinking like that.
It could mean verious things, like.. if he absolutely insisted he would pay but the date didn't turn out to be what I expected then of course a second likely wouldn't happen. It really just depends on the actual situation when the time comes.
Most men like to be gentlemen and pay for a ladies dinner, regardless if they do or don't isn't really something I concern myself with.
No... its tradition for the guy to pay for dates
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These Western traditions are making me barf. Seriously.
Not at all. If a man invites you out, planning to pay for a meal or whatever, you owe him nothing more than common courtesy. You don't owe him a hug or a kiss or another date.
If it bothers you, then you can offer to split the expense.
I have friends who would accept dates just to get free food or experience things with the mindset that “well he offered so might as well.” Then block the dude the next day.
Not necessarily... a lady could let a guy pay and still not like him or she could still pay and still not like. So it doesn’t determine how she’ll feel about it.
No. I will literally let any man pay for anything and everything for me. I like free stuff, but that doesn’t necessarily mean I like them.
So if you like me, you make me spend MY money?
Makes no sense
To me it means she is definitely not getting a second date.
That usually means she wants his money to be spent.
I wouldn't pay on first date anyways
She should be able to take care of herself. I don't want gold diggers
😂😂😂😂 It means she got a free meal!
If she likes him, she's going he'll take her out for another free meal; and if she doesn't, she's laughing at him for being a simp
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