+1 yI hate to admit it, but guys are weird about it. For some reason, "it" works better when he pursues you. He needs to put in the effort into it. I can't explain it, it must be some subconscious thing that causes guy to lose interest if they're not the one's pursuing you. Odd... I know. I can't explain it. Also, in the book Men are from Mars Women are from Venus, Dr. John Gray talks about this exact issue. He said, "The way to forge a bond is for a woman to see if a man will pursue and try to win her. And the way for a man to see if he's really interested in a woman is to be allowed to be the one to do the pursuing! " In other words, he should pursue you. BUT you did the right thing. He needs to know you're interested in him, now that he knows, you need to let him pursue you. Weird I know.
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While I do agree. I have to say that it does vary. I would say if the guy grew into this culture or that culture. I personal like girl talking to me first and paying for stuff when we do go out. I don't mind it at all and shows me she likes me enough to stop a dying tradition where men should pay for everything. I suppose I am a hater on that traditional manner.
I also believe it's due to me growing up with ladies only. Mom and three sisters. No dad.
Overall, there r people who don't mind who is paying and who talks to who first. Just shows u r intered in this person. That's a real good sign because that means u want to try. That's my two cents on this manner.
Lastly, I'm sorry that happen to u. I would have knocked his teeth out and gotten ur number... some guys r just weird. - +1 y
All I can say is... what in the fuck are you talking about?
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+1 yImagine having an ego so fragile a woman can't approach you without it getting damaged.
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Yes, positively. Most guys don't like having to jump through the hoops and bullsh*t of the dating world. We just have to. I don't know what fellas you're talking to, but I think the only way you'd emasculate them is if you're tall and come off aggressive; like a guy might do. Maybe your technique is wrong. Don't listen to those guys implying you shouldn't do the asking out first. This shouldn't even still be a gendered thing, anymore.
It's annoying to hear progressive women whine about wanting this magical, so-called non-existent "equality" they claim they don't have, but still will bitch about not having six foot eight guys who look like Chris Hemsworth come up to them and chat, but ugly five foot ten guys doing that being "sexual assaulters." F*ck them! Don't be like those chicks. You're showing bravery by doing things other girls may dislike, in the pursuit of a relationship.
Just maybe figure out if you're doing something wrong, or perhaps, just talking to the wrong kind of guys. The taller and more good-looking they are, the chances are the more they'll be into the traditional methods of courtship.10 ReplyI so need to chime in here because I am a woman who has never been afraid to approach a guy. I remember I had just finished coming out of the pool cause I used to be a lifeguard and I looked like absolute garbage but I still approached this guy who was who seriously was like the most gorgeous man I've ever seen in my life and he fully was like ready for it and I guess even though he was really cute he was a shy guy. But I didn't steal the deal. Got nervius at the end. He was wayyy out of my league. He was an investment banker.
I guess being in that field he appreciated my guts since he was shocked I was above 18. Baby face for life. 🙌
But anyway whatever. But in my normal experience the guy will like me but they will be so intimidated that even if I give them all the green lights they won't seal the deal. So even though I will let my interest be known I am not going to chase after a man. But I just don't understand because I read post after post about guys begging and pleading that women would approach them and then when I come along they chicken out.
I mean if you keep staring and look shell shocked and I like you I WILL ask "wuts up" and confess "yes, I like you back. What's good?"
And this is not like spindly A/V club wallflowers (no offense). This is like tall strapping dudes who are like husky and all of that. Terrified of me a little woman. I don't get it.18 Reply- +1 y
"I remember I had just finished coming out of the pool"
"I looked like absolute garbage."
Um, these two phrases do not go together.
A woman coming out of a pool is the sexiest thing ever! - +1 y
"a stringy mess.". But you don't understand. That's HOT!! 🙂
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And haha no worries. You are fine. I wasn't offended.
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Awww
I've definitely noticed guys become a bit more timid when I'm the aggressor. I didn't used to be that way because of how I was raised, but times have changed and now men seem fearful of asking women out because they don't want to come across as misogynists.
Sadly, the modern feminist has caused a lot of men to question themselves more. In some ways it's a good thing, but I think the downsides outweigh the good side.
But yeah, I definitely can tell they react much different when I'm the one that strikes up conversations or ask for dates or sex, etc.10 Reply
+1 yWhen I was in my late teens and early teens I would approach guys that were attractive and did not think I had a chance with. I was surprise they would actually talk to me and gave me their number. Some wanted to actually date and hook up but to be honest I turned them down. Wasn't feeling it with them and they were only good for their looks. I actually date a guy I approached and thought was attractive who I thought would not have a chance with. He was my longest relationship 6 years! He contacted me out of the blue telling me I am his right girl, he could see himself marrying and having a family with, but I turned him down since I've moved on from him.
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*meant late teens and early twenties*
+1 yNo that’s fairly normal where I live, a girl will ask a guy out or chat him up, it’s been like that forever.
Also ref your update, the North East of England has historically had high unemployment, this means one day guy is working next day unemployed.
couples simply accept that the person with the cash will pay, or they split or don’t go out, there is no emasculation about simple facts of not having any cash.
There is nothing wrong with a girl making first advance and nothing wrong with a girl paying for stuff.11 Reply- +1 y
@karaspara @coulis from looking at the various responses to this, there is definitely a culture thing going on.
For me this is simply nothing new, in Newcastle, Glasgow, Liverpool, etc this type of thing just happens.
I’ve also had similar in Norway and Denmark.
This type of situation is particularly true for women that work in certain professions that are routinely hit on (Barmaids etc), where they will often either make the first move or drop a HUGE hint.
It definitely does not detract from how the girl should be thought about and it’s not a modern thing.
3.1K opinions shared on Dating topic. I am more flattered if she approaches me first and I feel she must really like me , it makes it easier cuz it eliminates the question Mark if she likes me or not compared to myself approaching a beautiful girl and not really knowing if I have a chance or I am just another guy on her list trying to get her , Most girl’s have a lot of guys trying to get her compared to a guy that doesn’t have that big of a list. I don’t look at her differently I just look at it as I have a better chance if I like her the same way back. It just eliminates a lot of question marks is the way I look at it , well for the most part , her body language and the way she looks at me is a huge turn on
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yI'm sorry but I have a hard time believing that "guys you talk to say that it emasculates them". I can imagine maybe one or two insecure guys saying that, but you seem to imply most guys feel that way, which is completely bullshit.
Everyone, man or woman, is flattered and their interest is piqued when someone goes out on a limb to show they are interested in them. Now that isn't to say guys will necessarily be interested in a woman who approaches them if they find her unattractive, but that is obviously true of both sexes.
Countless times I've seem women here at GAG say they tried approaching a guy and it didn't go well so "obviously guys don't like it when girls approach them". Can you imagine what would happen if every guy who approached a women and it didn't go well decided women don't like men to approach them? The human race would go extinct, because for the vast majority of guys it doesn't go well most of the time.10 Reply- 2K opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 yIt shows she goes against the norms of the sheep society we're in and takes life into her own court. I have a much better impression of a girl that approaches me because it shows clear interest and I'm more likely to give her more of my time than I girl I approach. It's not emasculating for me in the slightest. I prefer confident girls I can talk to easily rather than struggling to brrak the ice with shy ones that take forever to get comfortable around me
20 Reply I love when girls approach me. I’m super confident in my appearance but I’m also super shy and pretty socially awkward and kinda have low self esteem so I can never approach girls first so when they do it first then I get validated and already know she’s into me if I choose to pursue her
00 Reply2.3K opinions shared on Dating topic. If you're dealing with a traditional guy or you want a traditional guy you should always let him make the first move. There's a lot of reasons for that. A non-traditional guy would love you to do all the work for him and basically beg him to go for you.
I don't think the guy was right to yell at you although when I was young I did have a woman yell at me just for asking her out. She later apologized but I had zero interest in her then.00 ReplyNeither negative nor positive for me. It makes things easier if she approaches and gets flirty. Leaves the guesswork out of it.
With that said, I'm a bit old school about dating (I like to lead on a date and, in exchange, I do pay for it; the woman is my honored guest). So I don't like women asking me out on a date. I prefer they just pass me their number and let me ask them out and decide where we go. They take away some of my initiative and ability to lead on the date when they do that.00 ReplyIf a woman approaches you, you might be able to sack her easily enough, but don't ever date or marry this kind of woman.
She is masculine. These make terrifying partners. She is going be or turn into bossy and hard to deal with. She will make your life such a misery.00 Reply461 opinions shared on Dating topic. Yes I'll have the most respect for the girl, cause being a guy you almost always gotta be the one to approach and I gotten to the point where the risk is far outwaying the reward to the pijy where I just ask. Well what's the point? Knowing how syedsful it Dan be on top of that, it can take guts especially in a public place.
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+1 yI am confused at how to answer this. Hey I would be flattered and yes my pride may kick in a little but if you want to pay so be it. This is part of the feminism movement. I believe now if they ask they pay whether it is the girl or the guy. I am becoming a modern man. :)
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+1 yEmasculating is deprivation of a male's role or identity. A woman doesn't have that much power of emasculation in one simple approach toward a man. If a man feels that from a woman who simply comes up to say Hi then that man has other deep rooted issues.
I do not view a girl differently I actually welcome the approach.02 Reply- +1 y
@CrotchRot It's different but shouldn't be a big deal in 2021.
+1 yI actually encourage this. Women complain way too much about being approached the wrong way or by the wrong guys so let them do the approaching. Also it depends on how u approach. Don't approach like a guy would, find a feminine way. Just saying hi and starting a conversation is more than enough, any masculine man would pretty much take it from there. Also women need to be ware of this because this is how u end up with feminine men who u don't want (assuming that's not what U're in to).
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+1 yIn my personal opinion and experience. Yes I now look at them differently. As all the girls that approached me, wanted something. They all had a plan to get something out of me. What they wanted went from money to using me to get in the country. All the girls that did not approach me but I approached them, was for the most part honest with no side plan. They all where extremely nice ladys and I enjoyed getting to know all of them.
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+1 yIf a girl approaches me first, it's to ask me to move or they ask if they can take a seat and then proceed to walk away with a seat or to tell me their friend likes me only for me to find out it's just a cruel prank. Girls don't approach me except in the ways I already stated above. or want me to approach them
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@yofuknutz no, I just avoid being around people.
TOTALLY!! I love it! I think she is really like what so many women say, about being an EQUAL! Her approaching me, makes me think she really FEELS like an EQUAL, and I LOVE dating the ladies that KNOW they are!
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+1 yBullsh*t. I don't know if that is some macho thing the younger generation thinks but I would love just once for it to be the girl who makes the first move. Emasculates? lol that's a good one. If that's emasculation then go for it.
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+1 yIt’s a huge turn on. I feel bad because of mainstream media and propaganda that modern day young men are bitches. They cry easily, they sit at home playing video games all day, don’t exercise and don’t even know what to do with their own dick.
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+1 yWrong, almost every woman I went with picked me up. That is the way it should be. It is stupid for the man to chase since women are the finicky ones while the man will basically jump anything that moves.
00 Reply1.7K opinions shared on Dating topic. Yes but it doesn't change my taste in girls, so if wrong girl approaches it will lead to a rejection. However I would say that she got better odds approaching and giving it a chance then if she doesn't and wait for me to pick her and do the job.
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+1 yHe must be very self conscience or too masculine.
I have had no issues with this, I view it as a good thing as most guys, including me... are oblivious and may not even know someone is interested in us.00 Reply
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yGenerally positively. Could be negative.
The short version is that if you approached me and it was negative then the reasons that made that so meant that it probably wasn’t going to work anyway. So functionally it has no negative effect, but it does have the advantage of making things happen.00 Reply
+1 yNo, I would really like to see women approaching men and engaging in meaningful conversations become more mainstream. If we all out here fighting for sexual equality, then we should encourage women to take charge of the conversation!
But that could just be me! I try to keep an open mind at all times🙃00 Reply- 363 opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 yI think it's kind of the same for women. You probably like it if a guy that you are attracted to approaches you, but if it's a guy you are not attracted to it may be awkward.
00 Reply 2K opinions shared on Dating topic. Nope. Quite the opposite. Most of the girls I've been with, approached me.
Guys that are insecure, tend to have issues with people doing things for them, or approaching them.00 Reply
Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yWell I'm waiting for you to ask me how let's go why you standing there for with your mouth all open say something do something.
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Would depend on her body language & how she interacted with other guys after. I would be suspicious she may of been around a bit. I try not to judge but that's not for me. My Venus is in cancer.
10 Reply3.7K opinions shared on Dating topic. You are around some very insecure moron guys if they feel emasculated by you approaching them... pussies.
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+1 yYeah it's a good thing but now in the present climate between MeToo, how busy I am and all the faults I'm not subjecting anyone else to.
I just don a wedding band and drink my scotch alone at the bar00 Reply Emasculates? No lol, I like to be the one who make the first move though. Honestly when a girl is approach its kinda scary because some women do it for just attention or play you which it did happen to me. But some guys love it
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+1 yShe's brave, knows what she wants, and I know she's interested.(and non of this does she actually have romantic intentions or just being nice shenanigans)
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+1 yi doubt there will ever be a century or millenium in which it becomes more common for women to approach men, its apparently against a womans DNA to refuse to approach a guy, even if she is attracted to him
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+1 yThe one thing I would love, and probably expect, in my life. For a happily ever after I kind of find it compulsory (because I have a huge workload of politics, so a girl I need to do things for, not sure could cut it).
00 Reply976 opinions shared on Dating topic. In general, it wouldn't have any major impact. Other factors would matter more.
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+1 yThe guys who you say felt emasculated, well you can't speak for every guy, but yeah I doubt this will ever become more common or mainstream
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Asker+1 yI want you to. date me
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Asker+1 yI see you comment a lot and I want to get to know you, I think we would get along greeeaaat
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16.5K opinions shared on Dating topic. Yeah, more positively for having the gumption to do it.
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+1 ywell there's no way in hell im ever gonna approach a girl, so if she wants anything to happen the girl will have to make the first move
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@CrotchRot I've been rejected like 100000 times n it jus makes me sad every time i get rejected... not worth it anymore lol
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@CrotchRot i jus be myself and act the way i want, changing my approach would mean being fake and being an actor... i dont want a girl to be in love with someone im not... so i will keep my approach.. its jus that no girls like who i am like the real me :(
It would definitely earn my respect and tell me that she's confident, I would most likely say yes to a date if I like her.
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+1 yİt's an act of confidence and even maturity, you don't usually get what you want standing in your place regardless of your gender
10 Reply 382 opinions shared on Dating topic. For a woman to approach me awesome ! I'm a lost puppy very aggressive super duper friendly. Often willing to jump in your lap without even knowing ya. Some people call it a vibe nope it's loneliness.
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+1 yJust make sure you know what you want
The last girl who approached me, only wanted to hookup. I didn't14 Reply- +1 y
Stop talking
Asker+1 ygo fist yourself
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Asker+1 yand im just saying to go fist yourself
+1 yIn my life, those relationships last longer. I love a women who can speak her mind. I’m usually clueless when women like me, so it really helps out breaking the ice.
00 ReplyGuys who feel emasculated by it aren't very masculine to begin with.
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+1 yI LOVE WHEN WOMEN APPROACH... hate having to make the first move. let them do it.
I know a man who is a 9 and he will date any woman who approaches him even if their ugly. He never approaches as he is scared.00 Reply It tells me that she's serious. I view her more positively.
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+1 yI would be extremely impressed, and she would automatically earn my respect.
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The new information you added makes things somewhat different.
If someone is broke, you have to understand that someone inviting you to something that involves money can be anxiety-inducing.
Maybe it would have been better to hang out with no food, or just bring a picnic and share it with him.
He shouldn't have yelled, though.
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yWow. That guy is a baby. Emasculating? He needs help. They act like they're being castrated.
I would feel flattered when a woman asks me out on a date. There's a very low chance I would reject her.00 Reply- 8.8K opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 yi'm not sure what to vote. i don't see them differently but it's not negative to me xD
00 Reply I mean I'd love some attention from the opposite gender.
00 Reply850 opinions shared on Dating topic. I'd be extremely flattered but also be judging her choice, I'm not a good catch.
00 Reply19.1K opinions shared on Dating topic. If she is loyal sweet and kind it makes me melt and I’ll basically do anything for her
10 ReplyI would be very flattered if a girl approaches me first and i would do my best to reciprocate the feelings to make her feel secure
00 Reply807 opinions shared on Dating topic. I like when girls start talking to me and that happens a lot, maybe just because I'm tall and they think I'm handsome, but I'm older and look younger.
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+1 yOf course it's hard thing to do and takes courage so get respect for that right away. If we hit it off or not is another thing
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+1 yIt depends on how she does it. If she does it with class, I'd love it.
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+1 yif she is being too aggressive men will most likely think she is easy
10 Reply507 opinions shared on Dating topic. Yes, I see that’s she’s interested and I would feel flattered. Any girl that approaches you wants you so that feels good
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