1.7K opinions shared on Dating topic. Women.
Men lie and cheat and may manipulate to have more freedom and avoid being judged or try to avoid women changing them or getting them to do what they want; and they tend to more often juggle other women in their life at the same time.
But women are more calculated and complex in their manipulations. They also tend to try and stand on the moral high ground when they have faulted as well.
Here's an example. I just watched this on the TV.
Guy and a girl, close to 30, they've been together, on and off, for 7 years. They're from two different countries.
It was LDR and he lived abroad mostly, but she didn't like his country, so eventually he moved to hers permanently. While they were apart, him trying to make plans to move, she cheated for a year and a half of that with some other guy. She lives in a small town and everyone knew about it.
Who told the guy he was being cheated on? The guy who she cheated with! He felt really bad. They were also friends, and he said he couldn't lie to his friend anymore. The woman only fessed up once she was caught.
He forgave her.
But when she broke up with him (years later, unrelated; she was always mad and fighting with him) and said they could both see other people, then he got into a four month relationship with another woman. But he still loved her so begged for her to take him back.
She asked if he had been with anyone else. He lied and told her just for four days, but it was a relationship for four months.
Then later he comes clean and tells her the truth, to clear the air. They love each other and are back together.
But she flips out and cries and is angry, and breaks up with him yet again, claiming "Because he lied." But she was cheating for a year and a half! And he didn't cheat. She broke up with him, said they could see other people, and then berates him for doing so.
Why? "It was a test." "I thought if I broke up with him he would realize how much he missed me and he would do the things I wanted in the relationship."
She's on screen again saying, "He is really dumb, but at the same time he is really manipulative. He knows how to get inside my head and change my mind and play with it."
That is not at all what happened. She is the one who manipulates him, and convinces him he is always in the wrong. He's begging for her forgiveness, again. And the only thing he did that was wrong was lie about 4 months vs. 4 days. She threw him away, didn't want him. He found someone else. But wanted her back more. She's hurt, jealous, and angry that she wasn't always the only one. She's an absolute hypocrite. Her tears are real tears, but she's convinced herself that she has no blame.
If anytime a partner is honest, the other berates them for it, the relationship won't have honesty. And that breaks trust. And that ends relationships.
This is the shit that women pull. These psychological tests. They set the rules, make a trap, and then try and convince the guy that he's an immoral piece of shit.63 Reply- +1 y
ah and then there are the ones who try to pass off other men's children to the honest man. This is why it's so worrisome for men. I've heard some women try to justify it as "bringing us closer" or "he gets to be a dad now". NO! That's easy when it's your kid, and you want that man or just his resources or stability. But DO NOT act like men want/like that. It's such a raw deal. It screws with our emotions. For a man when everything else falls apart he's got just two things to himself; his pride and his dignity. THAT'S IT! A man's self worth is totally different from a woman's in this regard. As for his guy "friend"... I've had the opportunity to do that with some of my friends' exes. One was EXTREMELY beautiful. A Polish/Italian girl, striking green eyes and dirty blonde hair, cute smile and all. I even felt like i was falling for her months prior. But even with alcohol in my system and her coming up to me (uninvited) for a lap dance and then started touching me I told her to STOP. You're with my bro, there's nothing that's going to happen here. I mean they were together for FOUR YEARS! She stopped talking to me after that... well they broke up after we all found out she went to a sex party... just her and 8 other guys and she was the main attraction... I just... I don't know what world we're living in.
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@AmandaYVR its like we're connected. I did read all that you wrote but from the beginning you captured exactly what I meant in my post
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@t-8900 Yeah that's definitely the most diabolical one.
@livin_hi_808 Thanks. 🤛
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+1 yHmm I'm biased because I don't think of myself as playing games.
I've had some men play some dumb ass games.
But mostly the basic standard one. They want sex but know they can't get it unless they lie about wanting a relationship. So they play the game until they have what they want then they start back tracking.
Saying they want to be together but create distance, only to show interest if sex is on the cards.
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u +1 y1. I am 100 heterosexual male, so all of my relationships have been with women. I have no idea how other guys act in their relationships. So I can't compare men to women in general. Since IMHO I don't play games, the answer is automatic: women play far more games. And if I was a female, the automatic answer would be that all MEN play more games.
2. Since I am heterosexual and engage only with women, why does it matter whether they play more games than men? How many games they play. . . that's what they do and I've got to deal with it.
3. Experience may teach you that gender differences on issues such as this are greatly exaggerated and how much a person is a game player is a very individual matter and not determined by their gender.11 Reply- +1 y
Well said, TY for sharing that.
547 opinions shared on Dating topic. Guys... and it's because women fall for it (over and over again). As @DizzyDesii explained, guys will just say, "Fuck this bullshit" and bail.
I cannot count the number of threads from otherwise intelligent young women who say, "My boyfriend promised me that he's going to A) stop drinking or using dope, B) stop hitting me, C) get a job, D) become a better father, E) other.
"How long have that two of you been together?"
"Five years."
"What!"
"I've left him twice, but came back because I don't want to be alone. Do you think he'll really change this time?"
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+1 yI don't think that's determined by a person's gender, more by the kind of person they are..
30 Reply1.6K opinions shared on Dating topic. I'd say women and its taken 2020 to 2021 for men to start playing those mind games as a result women are now the ones being told you want a game then I'll play YOU'RE game. And the ugly part is a lot of women don't like it XD.
Such as the white lie left women made up that they hate it when men they consider "weird and gross" approach them. The result as of 2021 most men are like okay thanks for telling us. You can then approach us instead. ROFL.10 Reply892 opinions shared on Dating topic. By far the guy's play more mind games than females do. It has gotten even worse to the point of gaslighting the female. Hey, if a guy is making you feel crazy, you gotta get out and fast so you can keep your sanity. Remember, whatever guys do to girls, they are just training the gals how to treat them like the way they treat us. So, guys, better watch out how you play your mind games, because the girls are taking notes! And yes, we are comparing our notes.
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+1 yMen are more likely to admit they were wrong. So in that sense can be a mind game of women seeking one-upmanship. Men often have bigger egos. Women are more likely to be manipulative to get married or what they want. So it really depends on the motive. Some men play mind games with women for sex. Some women play mind games with men over him to pay for her expense. In a long term relationship women play more mind games to get the best outcome from an argument in their favor.
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+1 yWomen try but often fail lol. Guys just say “fck the bs” and leave. Guys try and some women keep chasing to understand why theyre not good enough. Im glad i stopped being that girl back in HS
30 Reply 453 opinions shared on Dating topic. Without a doubt women, simply because young women inherently have value by virtue of being young and attractive (high sexual mean value), but lack the physical strength to protect themselves from a man. So in order to maximize the small window of time when she will be in her sexual peak, a woman has to mentally manipulate men into giving her what she wants, be it commitment, or various things, by keeping them in the friendzone.
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+1 yWomen, for sure. Men's minds are simple - they want sex, and if they don't get enough, then most of what they do is an attempt to get it. That's not very complicated. Women on the other want, want a LOT of different things, including sex. Once they learn that sex is the easiest route to getting all those different things, the games begin. But it's not the "only" way they get, or try to get what they want - there are plenty of other mind games they use.
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+1 ywhen it comes to sex and relationships prob women but that’s cuz they have the upper hand anyways, but in life in general i mean men are more likely to be the drug lords and serial killers so i’d think we’re far more capable of being devious and calculated to a deeper extent 🤣
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+1 yMy classmate was dating this guy who is our local magistrate
and he kept leading her on and wouldn't marry her and trust me
this girl is a wonderful person but he is older than her it took
many years before he finally made it official to marry her
so I believe men could lead women on vise versa some
women will do it cause they are involved with babies
to another man00 Reply999 opinions shared on Dating topic. On average, men abuse physically more easily and women abuse emotionally more easily.
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Very true
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Actually women commit more domestic abuse than men. It's just that, no one cares when a man is abused by a woman; "she can't hurt you; she's just a girl!" Also, women's domestic abuse is excused because they abuse to manipulate and physically hurt men, while men abuse to control women, but women being more fragile, have more noticeable damage when they're abused.
I can't find the specific data right now, so the next best thing I have is this.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2968709/
I think men try to play more games. Woman are just naturally more mysterious and maybe moody so difficult to predict and emotional.
10 ReplyDefinitely women. I'd even go as far as to say the majority of women play mind games. Women are the ones that expect men to be mind-readers most of the time. And almost no men play mind games. The few men who do, everyone knows are assholes.
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+1 yBoth do, however a woman will be more emotional and may come over as paying mind games.
Proper mind games are cold and calculated.
both are very capable of playing games to destroy the other.10 Reply1.1K opinions shared on Dating topic. Both can be manipulative. But in my experience, women play more mind games. I'd have to guess if she liked me.. Men have to make all the first moves, and women just sit there looking pretty, with a huge choice in men. I do not understand why a grown ass woman can't say how she feels, and you have to guess what she thinking. Way more pressure for men. Say what's on your f'n mind!
00 Reply400 opinions shared on Dating topic. I think it's even up. If you're so shallow that you have to play mind games with your partner you really need to find someone that gives a shit what you say.
10 Reply1.1K opinions shared on Dating topic. Definitely women. We are wired for cunning and strategic social gains.
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+1 yI’ve definitely had men play mind games with me however, I have also seen my male friends get fucked over by women playing mind games so I’m going to say both do it equally
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+1 yOh, women for sure. I grew up with two sisters. Women are far more devious than men would even think of.
10 Reply women, I think we do it because we are vulnerable and want to make sure he is the right one
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+1 yWhen it comes to abusive relationships statistically speaking, women tend to do that more.. They also make men do idiotic manipulative childish shit tests to prove them selves. Men do not.
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+1 yWe do but women are more crazy and end up fucking with our heads just as bad.
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+1 yWomen... they play mind games on themselves and blame the guy for her thoughts, or not noticing what she thinks
00 Reply2.3K opinions shared on Dating topic. Women for sure, especially when it comes to false accusations and turning kids against their fathers.
00 Reply500 opinions shared on Dating topic. Any narcissist plays mind games equally well regardless of their sex
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+1 yWomen are much more cunning than a man. Us men don’t have a chance with them in shrewdness and cunning.
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+1 ythey both play the same ammount of stupid games. just for different reasons. men to get laid. women to confirm that they get the commitment that they want.
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+1 yMen, they do and say all the right shit to get into your pants, and once they FK you they ghost you,
00 Reply1.7K opinions shared on Dating topic. Women, men are simple and basic and don't waste time on mind games.
00 ReplyI think age plays a big part. The older or more mature you get, the more simplicity you seek in relationships and SO's.
00 Reply15K opinions shared on Dating topic. Both equal. Everyone plays games some people are just better players
10 ReplyWomen perfected it. Men most likely created it as far as who does it more? It depends on age and location. Ima go with young women. I know some who got so much game that they game themselves out of good Situations trying to benefit the most
00 ReplyWomen, by a long way. I thought that was a well known accepted fact. Perhaps I'm wrong.
00 Reply8.4K opinions shared on Dating topic. I will admit to being prejudiced but in my experience it is women that play the most games.
10 Reply1.6K opinions shared on Dating topic. Women.
They, as a whole, tend to have a lot more time on their hands.
Both do, in my opinion women tend to do it a bit more.00 Reply
+1 yMen though I recently when my stbxh knew I don’t want children. Still married me thinking I’d change my mind. I didn’t budge. He got another girl pregnant I filed for the big d.
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+1 yBoth of them play mind games! Women are just less discreet and more clever, duh.
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*more discreet.
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You think so? Most womanly mind games are basic, to be utterly frank.
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+1 yWomen. BY FAR. The definition of mind games. Dear lord, you girls INVENTED that shit.
10 Reply That's hard to tell but I do know that my wife plays more of them then I do.
00 Reply597 opinions shared on Dating topic. In general, women but it all depends on the actual person.
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+1 yI don't think there's much of a difference really. The difference is probably more in what kind of mind games men and women play.
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+1 yI think it’s biased to say either. Men play their games and so do women.
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+1 yPretty easy one. Women, they can't really help themselves
10 Reply Women. Change my mind. Pro tip, you can't.
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FYI: You can always changed your mind. Man or woman
3.1K opinions shared on Dating topic. what a pointless question when women are clearly the masters of this game.
00 Reply833 opinions shared on Dating topic. I definitely think women play more mind games than men. At least that's what I've seen
00 ReplyWe women do, way more, to the point we don't even realise we do it
10 ReplyWomen. They never tell you what they want, even when you’re in a relationship with them.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yWomen constantly play shit tests and dumb games
most of the games women think men play are just women over thinking everything like women do.10 ReplyWomen teach men mind games and then whine over it. They can't play their own game
00 Reply455 opinions shared on Dating topic. Usually women, but the average guy is doing more often.
00 ReplyWomen, the reason men play mind games with women is beacuse they have too
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+1 yMen , except women are more schemers than men. Like getting pregnant to hook a guy.
00 Reply 2K opinions shared on Dating topic. Women have to because they lack the physical strength to influence others.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yHow is this even a question. Women obviously play mind games more than men do.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yWomen, Men do not have the time.
Us Guys just find a Woman attractive and we just want to have sex, Women have more time to think about it.10 Reply775 opinions shared on Dating topic. It really depends on the person rather than the gender. It may be a statistical dead-heat!
00 ReplyWomen. Or at least they would with me if I didn't have strict limits that push me away.
10 ReplyWomen because they are shorter then men and want to trick men by wearing heels
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+1 yYo think yes no or no sei know do you have nao sei de nada
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+1 yIs this a serious question? Women. Hands down. No contest
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