It's cool with me
It's creepy
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If both are loved, reaching their goals and fulfilled, then so be it. I'd say same for older woman younger man.
I'd question what the reasons are, I had my own reasons for seeking comfort in older women, and unfortunately a few married ones. They felt more mature and "safe". I had fears of women, of intimacy.. someone not available was good. I suspect a lack of emotional engagement early on, and so was filling that wound with the love of other women as opposed to seeking a mate whom could make offspring. I wasn't emotionally conditioned to make a family.
So what is really driving these women to date older men? I dont know. As long as it fulfills their emotional hearts and they aren't oppressed, and she's not abusing him, it feels ok. Reality is... they can have kids with them, possibly have lots of financial support, etc.. So it may work.
I have a younger girlfriend by a few years whom I love and we are approaching getting married. We're very similar in life experiences and values, the age gap isn't an issue other than she has more energy than I. I didn't select her by age but by values, character, complementing my weaknesses (ex. she deals with issues quickly whereas I avoid), fun, adventerous, enjoy being with and talking to. That seems more important than age.
I think a big age gap can cause issues in communication, common experience to talk about, there may be unique frictions to work out.
It’s the word PREFERRED, this means to me they target a person because of their age, not of who they are.
The realities on a night out you can meet a girl and have a brilliant time, you can think she’s 35, in fact she’s 26 and you are say 43.
the difference to me, is meeting someone and dating because you like them, are compatible and great fun, versus dating someone because they are a number.
If there is a large gap guy 50 or more and girl early 20’s or less, then it’s money making that relationship.
I think they view a woman’s value only as far as their beauty and I find men like that shallow, uninteresting and psychologically underdeveloped. There is a very small percent that have a genuine connection with large age gaps. I think it’s sweet when it’s genuine but... like guys that are old and just want young puss to me are just gross men. I don’t think it’s creepy; I get they’re sexually attracted to young women, it’s natural. Women are beautiful. But, I think mentally there aren’t really redeeming qualities and I don’t really respect these type of men.
You mean like the 70 something cowboy country music band guy that tried to pick me up at the casino 🤔 talking about his 'ex girlfriend" (ring on ring finger), mentioning how much his house cost, how bout the ex a car,"you here with your husband" type of old guy... Yeah that was a no🤣
Does talking about the car and house's cost really do it? Like if the dude were a 35-year-old stallion, would that have done it?
@InventorofWarp no and that was my point.. Not his age, the fact he was saying ex, even though had ring on wedding finger and that he thought bragging about what he had would do it.. maybe some women care about those things but I'm not that woman. And men say women are gold diggers, but I'm my case it's been men offering stuff that I decline... Because not all women the same, not all women are after men for their money
The better question is what guy walking up to you in a Casino WOULD do it for you?
49 is still pretty old for a woman. If he's 70 and going to shoot for a younger girl he should have proably gone after 28-35 age range in my opinion
@Vegasrunner
Do you really think a 28-35 yr old woman would be interested in a 70 yr old man? Even a 48 yr old woman wouldn’t be interested in a senior citizen
@Vegasrunner 49-year-old women are old?
Interesting, news to me.
Seems to be that's right smack in the middle of the two-three decades where they become the most awesome/are the hottest.
@InventorofWarp IMzo 49 is a bit old. There are some exceptions but my point is if he's going to trick then he should do that w/ a younger hitter woman. He may have genuinely believed she was younger, but if we lined up 100 25 year old and 100 49 year old I doubt anyone is selecting the 49 years olds.
@Vegasrunner
listen dude, a 70 yr old man with money wouldn't have to settle for a 28-35 yr old woman. he can buy 18 yr old virgin pussies with all that money. It doesn't mean that 18 yr old girl truly wants him though. She won't be there if it weren't for the check.
@InventorofWarp
Even 35 yr old women are seen as old on here. All these sexists have nothing better to do.
@Vegasrunner Well actually definitely one guy here is selecting the 49-year-olds. And I'm far from unnattractive I might point out. I work out regularly to keep up my muscle and ab definition and I'm tall and heavily tattooed with a pride in my hygiene so... there'd be a lovely middle-aged lady getting fucked vigorously by a young man in this hypothetical scenario.
The woman I fancy, a close friend of mine, is actually in her early-40s.
@shaysh87 Lol, Probably if that's what he wanted but 28-35 range is higher value in my opinion, and the virgin thing wouldn't be a plus. Of course she would be w/ him for the money so, it should give him an incentive to make sure he has money. Most relationships are transactional anyway so I wouldn't worry to much about that.
@Vegasrunner
when a 49 yr old man is dating a 23 yr old woman, these relationships tend to be either transactional or short lived comprised of lust/ infatuation/ sex.
what people don't understand is that the bigger the age gap, the less likely both persons are able to relate / get along with each other. I don't believe most young women are physically attracted to guys in their 40s either. only weirdos like bald spots, white hairs, wrinkles, saggy balls, and muscle weakness.
@Vegasrunner
there is no "higher value" in a 28-35 yr old woman. These relationships are not comprised of emotional connection/ falling in love. If you were to pay for hot sex, why would you pay for a loose pussy of a 33 yr old woman while you can get a tight , virgin pussy with a hot 18-20 yr old?
you're paying for it, why not get the best of the best?
@Vegasrunner
I have been on "dates" with filthy rich men. I know from experience that Any time you hear of an old man 45+ who says things such as I don't date any woman under 35, there is a good chance that he's not looking for love. I've been on dates where the conversation went absolutely no where , there was absolutely no connection and yet he still wanted to see me again the next time.
@Vegasrunner
and I was just looking to be a sugar baby with these old guys during my college years because I was in desperate financial need. I really had no romantic intentions either.
@shaysh87 There's a lot to unpack there.
First off: At 45 I definitely don't intend to look like anything how you described and I know guys who look 25 still at 45. So you're obviously just not attracting quality men for one reason or another who keep up their appearances and take of themselves well into their older (45 really isn't that old) age.
Second: Yeah I've also been on dates where there was absolutely zero connection. I was young and stupid and thought I could still change things to where we would like each other so I still wanted to see her again. That's your reason. Men can be naively stupid too.
Third: Okay so one of my closest friends is 42 and I'm 24, I'm still sexually inexperienced and woefully naive. We get along pretty well. You saying there's no chance in hell there? It must go both ways, right? Both genders?
@InventorofWarp
Most young women can easily get a handsome young guy in his late 20s to early 30s that is a few years older than her. why would she trade a handsome young man for an old man out of his prime? we are not attracted to wrinkles, sagginess, white hairs just like you aren't attracted to wrinkles, white hairs, sagginess on women. Humans are designed to be most physically attracted to those with the highest reproductive value. Men in their 20s-30s tend to have the healthiest offspring. The same reason why you're more attracted to young women then old women.
most of us young people are also looking for someone who we can grow old with. you can't grow old with someone who is already old. I can't be 45 , still having sex , riding motorcycles while you're 60 and thinking about applying to the elderly home in a few years. I still have the rest of my life ahead of me to live. Studies have proven that couples with large age gaps tend to have much higher rates of divorce or if they do not divorce, they have a much larger decline in martial satisfaction.
@InventorofWarp
The reason why men and women in their 20s-30s date the most is because they are the most physically attractive at that age.
@InventorofWarp
[Okay so one of my closest friends is 42 and I'm 24, I'm still sexually inexperienced and woefully naive. We get along pretty well. You saying there's no chance in hell there? It must go both ways, right? Both genders?]
most 24 yr olds do not get along very well with 42 yr olds. Sure you both can have a conversation but really won't be the best, most fun , interesting conversation you would ever have. This is why people tend to befriend those around their own age. Its highly uncommon for a 24 yr old to have a best friend who is 42 years old.
@InventorofWarp
The truth is the truth regardless if you like it or not. You will not get more attractive as you age.
@InventorofWarp
Calling me ugly won’t make you look 28 at 45.
@shaysh87 Well no, actually you called yourself ugly first. You said 35-year-olds are unattractive and you're only 5 years behind so according to yourself that gives me an idea of what I should expect if I were to meet you in person.
Granted this is supposedly to be applied to all persons over 35 in your world, I guess?
@InventorofWarp
everyone gets unattractive at some point. Just like yourself.
@InventorofWarp
And by the way, I'm no where near 35. More like 10+ years before I hit that age
@InventorofWarp
i don't think you make any sense because 35-23 is clearly not 5 years.
@InventorofWarp You lost me. I don't understand the relevance of your statement, are you sure it is directly to the right person? I don't see any comment regarding your physical appearance, or understand what the "lovely middle age coment has to do with anything" Please eloborate.
@shaysh87 Most relationships are transactional in my opinion. Your age gap theory is interesting, but I'm not sure how we could prove it. Huge difference between 40 year old man and 40 year old women. 1) Men are more visual. They're going to be less likely to find an older women attractive, A good test is to line up a group of 50 twenty year olds and 50 forty year olds, outside of a club, and most intellegent people would agree that the 20 year olds are getting in ahead of the 40 year olds. 2) Women are more emotional and need driven - At age 20 very few men have enough resources to satisfy women, 40 year old men typically have had more time to establish themselves, providing them with assets and resources. In the same test if you lined up 50 20 year old men outside a club, and 50 40 year old men outside the club, The 40 year olds are more likely to have the resources to purchase tables, and bottles raising their value for the club. Traditionally you see more older men with younger women than vice versa.
@shaysh87 Excellent question. I'm saying for me personally I put a higher value on 28-35 year olds verses 18 year olds. I think you're making the mistake of believing that what's important to you is what's important to all men. Things like "emotional connection/falling in love is more of a female POV. Most men aren't actively seeking that in relationships. Regarding the other part. Women typicaly reach their sexual peak around 32 - 35 usually at the age of 18 women are still inexpirienced, insecure and less open to expirementation sexually. Also girls around that age haven't really gone through their "party faze" meaning there's way more drama to deal with. Women around 28-35 are typically more open to expiriementation and have a better understanding of their bodies and what turns them on. It's not a 1-1 but I think most guys (with options) would probably choose 28-35 over 18.
@Vegasrunner
I really don't think most men on here would agree with you that women in their 30s look better than girls 18-25. Most men find women 18-26 to be most attractive.
@Vegasrunner
Marriages where husbands are 10-14 years apart only make up 5% of all marriages.
Marriages where husbands are 15-19 years apart only make up 1.6% of all marriages
https:/
/en. wikipedia. org/wiki/Age_disparity_in_sexual_relationships
Just because men are "more visual" doesn't mean that women find men attractive.
@Vegasrunner
According to pew research, overwhelming majority of the world's marriages are under 10 years apart. The most common being less than 5 years apart.
https:/
/www. pewresearch. org/fact-tank/2020/01/03/globally-women-are-younger-than-their-male-partners-more-likely-to-age-alone/
@Vegasrunner
Empirical evidence has also accumulated in support of women's preferences for older men, and as you might expect, the data often overlap with those data supporting men's preferences. As this sample of Conroy-Beam and Buss's (2019) review suggests:
Cross-culturally, women report wanting partners who are (on average) 3.5 years older than them.
In online dating, women make the first contact with older men at a greater than rate they do younger men.
Marriage records show that women are marrying men who are older than they are by about 3 years.
https:/
/www. psychologytoday. com/us/blog/meet-catch-and-keep/201904/what-we-know-about-age-gaps-in-dating-love-and-marriage
@Vegasrunner
[Exactly! Your "sugar baby" relationship is a good example. The guys' value to you was his financial abiltiy while your value to him was your youth. Those relationship dynamics are much more common between older men and younger woman.]
I never had intentions to marry him. I just wanted to use him for his money until I can find a handsome young man I can fall in love with. Don't think that just because a woman is willing to use you for your money, that means she wants to marry you.
I can marry a man for money but I will be cheating on him with the man I actually love.
@Vegasrunner
Just because a man is willing to use a beautiful prostitute for sex, it doesn't mean he wants to marry her. The same way just because a woman is willing to use you for your money , it does not mean she wants to marry you.
@shaysh87 Now what I understand what you're trying to say. I think you're equating attractiveness with sexual gratification and overall value. What I'm saying is that women reach their max overall value at approximately 28-35. An 18 year old girl really doesn't have anything except her youth, and is not usually exprienced enough to sexual satisfy a high achieving man with options. A quality 30 year old women, could have a career, their own home, a 401K, the freedom to travel, etc. It's unlikely that an 18 year old anything is going to have those things. For the sexual aspect of it, they are usally still discovering their sexuality and aren't as usually as enjoybale to have sex w/ in my expierience And the virgin part is not a plus, I don't want to be anyone's first or their last. If you did your test and lined them up, and judged them strictly on their beauty than you may be correct, (but I'm guessing if a hot 28 yr old and a hot 18yr old posted a photo of themselves on here, they would get approximately the same response from thirsty guys). I'm not sure, but I'm speaking of overall value that they would have.
@shaysh87 I think you're focused on the wrong thing. You're heavly invested in the "marriage" aspect and I understand that, but I'm speaking about marriage, I'm using the term "relationship" to define various interactons between men and women. Yes men are more visual, so they are going to be more likely to select partners by their attactiveness, women are more emotional, so they are going to select their partner more off how they make them feel. There are way more unattractive men, with hot women, I can't even think of a public relationship where there's an unattactive women with an attractive man can you?
@shaysh87 Your second study sounds like you have found info to support my theory, so I appreciate you at least doing some research. I don't really put much stock in general online studies, without understanding all the factors. (How many people did you interview, where did you interview, demographics of the people) But it does seem to point to the evidence of more older men, with younger women theory.
@shaysh87 Again I think you're confused as to believing that "marriage" is the end goal for men. I can't speak for the guy, but the fact that you weren't interested in marry him isn't really relevant. I don't see any value in marriage for men anyway. What I'm saying is that you both presumably got something out of it. You got some bills paid and he got some pussy. It's a fair trade, I don't see any issue. When it's no longer benificial, you can look for another sugar daday, and he can just go find another chick. The big difference is, you only have a short shelf life of when you can pull that off. He has essentially until he dies or runs out of money.
@Vegasrunner
[I don't really put much stock in general online studies, without understanding all the factors. (How many people did you interview, where did you interview, demographics of the people) But it does seem to point to the evidence of more older men, with younger women theory.]
These are statistics from very highly trustworthy reliable sources. Just because you don't like the numbers, it doesn't mean they aren't true. Psychology today, pew research are one of the most trustworthy sources out there.
@Vegasrunner
The topic here was about old man perverts and young woman gold diggers. These relationships are all about lust, sex and money. Its not about how much she knows about mortgages or how well she will relate to the old man. So you can stop obsessing over how much "she knows". Because its nothing about how much she knows. Such relationships are typically about sex, lust. If a man was so obsessed over finding love, he'd likely go for a woman around his own age rather than someone 20-40 years younger.
I also think you need to realize that just because you are attracted to a 30 yr old woman, it doesn't mean she will be attracted to old 45 yr old men. People tend to date who they can manage to get, not who they desire the most. The typical 30 yr old woman would usually want a man a few years younger or a few years older than her. Not a 45 yr old man out of his prime.
@TruthBringer: yet another dupe account
@shaysh87 Lol, I dont think you're reading the statement. I'm saying the study seems to make my point. Kinda sounds like you're just regurgitating a preprogrammed response. Your statement about me "liking" number isn't relevant. If anything I would love the numbers they tend to validate my point.
@shaysh87 Now I see where you're confused. Re-read the question again. The topic was 'what do you think of older men who date younger women"? Words like "pervert" and "gold diggers" are your words and have nothing to do with the conversation. You also seem to be obsessed w/ this concept of "love" as if that's the basis of all relationships. No one in this thread is making an argument of anyone "looking for love" except for you. I have no clue why but it has nothing to do w/ the topic. You're simply making the mistake of believing that because you view something one way everyone views it that way. Reality is you can't really say who are why someone is "attracted" to someone else or what someone's motives would be for dating someone. All the evidence points against your belief, including the evidence you yourself presented. Also for some odd reason you've constantly fixated on ONLY THE WOMAN's POV as if the man has no choice of who they want to spend their time with. Your belief of people dating who they "manage" to get is true of low achieving people for sure and may say more about the quality of people you personally are able to associate w/. As for a 40 year old man getting 30 and 20 something old women it's not nearly as difficult as you think for some reason. As the evidence has shown
@Vegasrunner
If a woman is looking for love or a husband, she won't be searching through a pile of senior citizens. Because for the overwhelming majority of us, physical attraction is an important part of the mating process. Sure, some weird women are attracted to bald spots, muscle weakness, weight gain, wrinkles, saggy balls, possibly erectile dysfunction. But I can tell you that its not true for overwhelming majority of us women.
By the time a woman is 28-35 , she can still manage to get someone young handsome and strong. why would she pick an old man when she can get someone much more attractive?
if you don't like wrinkles, sagginess, white hairs on women. what makes you think women like that stuff on men?
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I am in a committed relationship now but if I was not, I would not approach a woman younger than her early 50's unless she sent me a very strong signal of interest, as one did about 18 months ago.
I think anyone who is honest must admit that the idea of having sex with a much younger partner is very exciting and flattering, but. . . a relationship needs much than sex to flourish. I doubt that I would have much in common with a girl who is 25 or 30 years old and if all were have is good sex, that's not going to last.
I also don't expect younger women to have an interest in me. I would rather have a few people think of me as an old fool rather than chasing a young girl and convincing everyone that I actually am an old fool.
I think it’s actually kind of pathetic. These guys are really wanting back their youth, or at least wanting youth to be with them. No 40 or 50 year-old man has any business being with a 20 year-old.
True but it's not illegal.
I think the only reason why a man would prefer to date a much much younger woman is because she will be more physically attractive hence better sex. They will unlikely have very much in common or much of an emotional love. Most relationships where the man is much older while the woman is much younger tend to be short lived and more about lust, sex, infatuation than true Love / deep emotional connection
This is why most people tend to date / marry people around their age. People tend to have more in common with those that aren’t too much older
I have had a three year relationship with a wonderful mum younger lady. Our connection is just that, it's all about the connection we share. While the sexual part is important as it is in any relationship, our connection is all about how much we love each other. Some of the generational differences are fun to deal with, while the others simply take a lot of love to enjoy them.
Let each person decided for themselves what their relationships should be all about. I would tell you fuck buddies are for worse off than any older/younger situation you come across.
@ScottStevens
By the time she is 45 and you turn 60, she will be looking for a younger man who can keep up with her. She’s 45 still riding motorcycles , high sex drive while you’re 60 , thinking about retiring to the elderly home. It’s likely she won’t stay with you. Studies have proven that large age gap relationships tend to result in much higher rates of divorce and larger declines in marital satisfaction 6-10 years down the road
What can I say? The bigger the age gap, the more problematic it can get in both relationship itself as well as how society views it. All in all, women generally date men who are older, not by a big gap like 20 years or something, but usually a few years. I believe if a girl wants to start a family and is able to grow old with her partner, then she shouldn't date a guy who is around or even 20 years older than her. If the relationship is purely sexual, then as long as it is legal and there is consent, I see no issue with it.
I don't have the innate disgust that people I know seem to have, but even so it's hard not to agree with them, it's hard not to see such a relationship as more of a transaction, and it seems weird to me as to why the man wouldn't rather have a relationship with someone of their own age with a similar relative experience, mindset, physical capabilities, etc. so it seems superficial; that he's just going for an attractive woman, and on that level I find it indicative of a shallow character.
On the other hand, as an old, unattractive, disabled man with their last few friends dying one by one, I could understand the option as a way to escape a depressing loneliness, to feel young again, and to share and reminisce ones experiences, living them through the eyes and reactions of someone new and inexperienced.
As a woman married to a much younger man I don't think I can be too against it if the age gap is in reverse. However, I will say that if he's only interested in her for sex (which I don't think is the case as often as some may assume, but if he is...) then that is really creepy and shallow.
I think some of them are easily fooled. Also usually they are rich and have some type of social status so they think because of that they can have even much younger girls. I personally wouldn't date a guy who is more than 10 years older than me but live and let live.
Maybe the guy has a bucket list and he never dated young attractive women so he wants to experience this. He is able to offer her financial support and if she agrees to it so be it. Just because two people use each other doesn't mean they don't care about each other. A person can use another and still develop feelings for that other person.
I feel pretty qualified to answer this because I met my husband when I was 21 and he was 40, and we have been together for 19 years, my advice - don't do it... What's hot at 21 is not the same at 40 nor 60...
Hun do yourself a favor. You are 40 years old with your entire life ahead of you. You still have so many years ahead of you. He is 60 , end of his life and probably thinking about going to the elderly home soon. You’re still having sex, riding motorcycles , traveling , hiking etc. he can’t do that anymore. If he still can, it’s only gonna be a short matter of time before he can’t. Not to mention you’ll likely be spending the remaining 25-30 years of your life dying alone. Women live longer than men.
Go find a younger guy who you can actually spend the rest of your life with. I doubt you’ll be attracted to a senior citizen either.
@rcljr yep, we have kids,
@StormyWinter
yea, you're likely the only parent who is gonna pay for all your children's college education. cuz your husband is likely gonna be retired before he's even finished paying their tuition.
and you're also not the first one I've seen to regret marrying such an older spouse.
As long as they’re both legal and they’re both happy, I don’t really care. Same with women who date much younger men. I generally stick with guys my own age but what other people do is their business. I would date a 50 year old, I would also date a 30 year old. I personally wouldn’t date anyone older or younger than that though.
So I’ve dated guys 20 years older than me. At first I never thought i would like it. I had two that I actually had relationships with. Almost got married to my last boyfriend. They were fun and thrilling but there definitely differences that caused problems sometimes. I don’t go around necessarily trying to date older men anymore although I’ve met some stand up good more mature men. My experience overall has been good.
That is disgusting
Well you entitled to your opinion 🤷🏽♀️ain’t mad at ya at the end of the day sister 👍
Well , not so much like the picture , but Im " One of those guys " and it would be virtually impossible for me to take a woman just 2 years younger , couldnt handle it at all. Well , unless I found an Elle MacPherson of the like..
Current difference is 22 years , and I've had bigger gaps than that..
And I can tell you , I've had great times with it , so have my partners , we had a similar question recently.
The path that conquered the quest...
Heaven , hell and even freedom are no than a state of mind and perspective and quite reachable.
For centuries men have failed to find the fountain of youth as they failed to see it for what it was, expecting it instead to be what they had envisioned it to be.
Honestly the heart wants what the heart wants. It's fine as long as she's not under the legal age.
What is an older man supposed to do? Stand in the mirror and say "I'm too old to date It's time for me to lay down and die because somebody somewhere doesn't like it"?
Can't blame them. Young women are hot and usually smell real nice even down there. But from an ethical standpoint, an older guy should realize he's been around and he knows stuff that young ones don't. There is a blurry line between seducing a woman and taking advantage of her, and I don't approve of guys who cross the line. But even young ones can do that. I think older ones can do that more easily.
I do not like feminist-type guys. I don't mean boot-licking guys who are feminists. I mean guys who don't think it's their fundamental job to prioritize their protection of women and children. Because then, especially older ones, can too easily turn younger women into prey for their predatory practices. If man is not protector, then I think very often he is sheep (coward) or wolf (predator). It is rare to find a man who does not fit neatly into one of these three categories, and so I am into raising men to be protectors. I don't care what the feminists say. Feminists are the worst examples of humans on the planet who understand men.
I believe you do what makes you happy. I've said this before I'm not one to judge what other people choose to do in their lives.
"do what makes you happy"... I read that as makes both happy and fulfilled. Important to not exclude the others values, goals. Otherwise, it's just selfishness and that's Jeffrey Epstein and friends...
People fetishise all manner of things this won't change a damn thing.
I bet amy money if he got the energy, her youth makes him feel younger.
My grandparents tell me all the time they still feel young but the body just reminds them to slow down.
That sounds like a prison to me! Don't you think?
The couple they know what they're getting from it. I don't understand it but I don't actually need to.
Good luck to them rather her than me
Some people look down on those who date outside their ethnicity, out of a sense that they "belong" to their own ethnic group. Society at large looks down on this attitude. Why should it not extend to their age group as well? As long as you're both adults, your decisions are your own.
Bad idea.
The bigger the difference in ages the more likely a couple is to divorce. Statistically speaking.
Also let's be real she doesn't find you funny, attractive or really likes you. She is there for the money. Much bigger chances she will cheat on you.
It's okay, as long as both parties are above the age of consent, 18. Men (young and old) being attracted to young women is not about morality it's about evolutionary biology and has been this way for millions of years and will remain so in the foreseeable future.
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