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I’ve seen it more common the other way around. Have you not seen some of the podcasts that men have? They’re bald and jobless and are whining about overweight women and want someone who’s hot yet they have a receding hairline, call themselves alphas, and don’t have jobs.
Let me just point out that you’ll never really see a really attractive guy with an average looking woman. But you often see very attractive women with average looking men.
@Angie221994 You do have men like that, but most unattractive men don't think they're able to get attractive women, but women who aren't staying in shape literally believe a man should love and accept her for who and what she is. A lot of these women are on dating sites thinking they can really link up with fit and attractive men. Or hoping they can.
@ManOnFire I second this. Two of my heavy friends lost their mind when they get rejected by some fit men but they won’t date fat men themselves. One of them seem to match a lot with men who are in a good shape, but none of these men stayed because obviously she is used as a booty call.
@desidoll I’ll second this as well. My friends are heavy as well and I have always encouraged them to go to the gym and they will also get upset when fit guys friend zone them
@kyleelyn199723 The fact that they even questioned why are they not getting attention from good looking men is pissing me off lol. So much of self-entitlement.
@ManOnFire unnatractive guys, at least ones that aren’t afraid of rejection, will hit on attractive women and usually end up dating them because a lot of other men might think they’ll be rejected by her anyway so they don’t even try. There’s a Psych professor from Stanford that wrote a book about “Dating Up” and talks about how attractive women aren’t hit on that often. Anyway. Anyone can have a preference. Not sure if you’ve seen on tik tok a bunch of bald men on podcasts talking badly about women who weigh over 150 lbs (by the way nothing wrong with being 150 since you can be 150 and be thin) but anyway. I think you can have preferences, it just doesn’t mean that you’ll get what you want. You might want a fit person yet you’re not fit and that fit person only wants someone else that’s fit. But I’ve also seen people who are fit that like people who are chubby.So it’s not completely far out for a woman or man who is overweight to be with someone who is fit. People are entitled to their preferences. If they’re fat and don’t wanna date other fat people. That’s fine. It just doesn’t mean that they’re entitled to a date with the person that they want because you have to look at the preferences of the other person. And in some cases, the other person might be into them also. In most cases, they won’t be.
@Angie221994 Attractive women aren't hit on that often probably because a lot of them are snobs and treat people - but especially men - as if they're better than them. No man wants a woman who behaves like that, and he doesn't want a woman who is in constant competition with other women over looks either.I know of men who are not in any position to judge women because of their bodies, and they're just as bad as overweight, unattractive women. However, the difference is that while these men may want better looking, healthy women, they still know their chances at getting them are not very likely. The overweight, unattractive women actually believe they're entitled to having what they want but is out of their league. To the point of trying to guilt the world into accepting their bodies so that men will "not be shallow" and take their overweightness.I believe in pursuing and being attracted to people accordingly. If I'm fat with a huge belly and I don't look great, why in the world would I think I can or should actually snag a healthy, fit, nice looking person? At the most, I can find such people to be attractive, but I'm in no position to feel like they should want me with poor figure, unless I'm actively working on changing my diet and lifestyle, which these women don't want to do.Right now my own body is not in the greatest shape. I'm not fat, but I definitely need some muscle building and toning like when I was 18, and I've been back in the gym over the last month. I am actively trying to change myself and my health, and do not think I deserve a woman with an incredibly sexy healthy figure until mine is decent. That's simply the way I see myself and life period.
@desidoll Ikr? Lmfao.
@Angie221994 you get your info from tik tok. How many of those bald men are trying to stir the pot for views and followers? It’s literally a known thing where people make up stuff in tik tok for views. This is where your argument falls short
On tik tok*
@Angie221994 why are ragging on bald guys like baldness in men is inherently unattractive? There are plenty of bald guys who are physically attractive
@JSmuve. I never said bald men are unattractive. But it’s an insecurity among men. That’s why the hair growing business is worth 3 billion Dollars. Lol
@kyleelyn199723 I was using an example. I wasn’t basing my argument on it. I based it off a marriage counselor with a PhD in Phsy from Stanford. So no. My argument stands. Lol.
@Angie221994 your example of a marriage counselor is literally saying attractive women do not get hit on often is because they tend to be bitchy and snobby and men know that. It has nothing to do with them being attractive, it has to do with the fact that most average men and below are called creeps if they approach those women. Every single person on this earth desires attractive people.
@Angie221994 you implied it in your first response
@ManOnFire how about we don’t make assumptions on women? You literally made a baseless assumption about how attractive women are snobs lol. Have you met every single attractive women on the earth, gotten to know her personally, and taken a poll to see how many are snobby? I didn’t think so. I never said you’re entitled to end up dating the person. I said you are ENTITLED to your own PREFERENCES. We CANNOT help what we find attractive. I work out religiously, and I’m attracted to dad bods. So it’s not impossible. You’re acting like “chubby chasers” aren’t a thing. There’s a whole section dedicated in porn to BBW lol. It wouldn’t be there if no one was watching it. Obviously some men are into bigger women. And some of those men are thin or fit or whatever. You are entitled to what you are attracted to. However, you’re not entitled to shame them for THEIR preferences. Let’s take you for example. You said you’re not fat or fit or whatever. Let’s say you’re average body wise (just an example). But you’re into fit girls. It’s not impossible for you to get a girl that’s fit. You are within your right to want a girl that’s fit. It just doesn’t mean you’re gonna get a girl that’s fit. All I’m arguing is that you can have whatever preference you want. But if the girl turns around and says she only dates fit guys, then you can’t shame her for it. (Which in other comments, you said similar things about this) people shouldn’t get mad if they don’t meet up to someone’s standards.
@JSmuve I was talking in a general way. Personally, I’m not into bald guys. Even if his face was attractive, I couldn’t get past the baldness and I’m not alone in feeling this way. HOWEVER. There are women who are into bald guys. That’s the whole idea about preference. What I’m talking about is that it’s something that MEN not women find unnattractive entirely. Most men who have gone bald, wish that they hadn’t. Which is why they spend money on products that promise to get their hairline back.
@kyleelyn199623 also don’t understand why you’re arguing with me lol. I agreed with you to a certain point. Your friends can like fit guys. But they can’t turn around and get mad if a guy who’s fit doesn’t like them b/c they’re not fit.
@kyleelyn199723. Um no. I never said that. I was quoting what manonfire said. The author of that book didn’t say that attractive women are snobby. Lol. You should work on those reading skills. The author only said attractive women don’t get hit on often. Manonfire is the one who said that attractive women are snobby and bitchy. I was disagreeing with what he said. Lol.
@Angie221994 you need to work on your reading skills because I never implied the author said that. I said to your point and the authors point, attractive women do not get hit on often because they are usually snobby to average men, which is the truth. Where am I arguing with you? I just wanted to point out that your point of bald men on tik tok is inaccurate because people use tik tok falsely to gain views. There’s people on there that literally falsify their views on life for attention which is another truth
@kyleelyn199723 so if men love being bald, why are they contributing to the hair growing business? Where is the 3 billion coming from? Because on the business model for Rogaine, a little over 93% of their customers are men. They have products for females too but their consumers are majority male. But you’re saying that’s false? Based on what? Oh ok. So do you know every single attractive women on the earth to know that every single one of them is snobby? I did t think so. So maybe, don’t make assumptions about people you don’t know. 🤔
@Angie221994 what does men being bald have to do with the point I just made? It seems like when people are proving you to be wrong, you keep throwing out info to cover up that you were just proved wrong. And how do I know every sing attractive woman is snobby? I don’t dude, but there’s history to suggest that that typical attractive women come off as snobby. Look at Instagram for example. How many attractive women will DM back every single guy that tries to talk to them?
@kyleelyn199723 so they’re snobby because they HAVE to reply to every single guy that messages them? That’s your definition of snobby? Lol. Men aren’t entitled to a reply lol. Her not replying to a message doesn’t make her snobby. Lol. Omg. That’s so stupid 😂Also. How am I wrong? All I said is that people are entitled to their preferences. You can’t change what you’re attracted to. (Doesn’t mean you’ll get it) but you’re allowed to like what you like. That’s what you’re saying is wrong? 😂😂
@kyleelyn199723 there’s nothing in history that suggests that ALL attractive women are snobby. Ugly people are snobby too. Lol. And not replying to every single Dude does not make someone snobby.
@Angie221994 so why would an average guy try to DM or talk to a woman that won’t answer him back anyways? Talk about entitlement.
@Angie221994 again, where did I say all attractive women are snobby? Never said that. And where did I say not replying to every single dude makes you snobby? Never said that either
@kyleelyn199723 Because men who aren’t afraid of rejection just hit on everyone. Lol. They’ll literally say stuff like “I got nothing to lose” and go for someone above their league. That’s not entitlement. Lol. There’s nothing wrong with flirting with someone. As long as you respect their boundaries if they say no or flat out ignore you. Like are you blind? Have you not seen very attractive women with average looking men? How did you think that happened? Lol. He asked her out and she said yes. That’s not entitlement. Entitlement is when they get rejected and they feel like their owed a date or a chance with that person. Entitlement is when you expect someone to reply to a message you sent (apparently to you that makes a person snobby tho. Lol. No one owes you a response)
@kyleelyn199723 you literally said they’re snobby if they don’t reply to every single man that messages them. Are you blind or do you have dementia that you don’t remember what you said?
@Angie221994 are you stupid? Did you really insinuate people aren’t afraid of rejection? LMAO then why do many men get hostile when they do get rejected? Why are many men afraid to approach women? When did I ever say entitlement wasn’t expecting everyone to reply to you?
@Angie221994 I never said that LOL I said men tend to not try for above average women because 1. They don’t reply to their dms anyways 2. They can very much be snobby
@kyleelyn199723 I didn’t say ALL men aren’t afraid of rejection. I said the men that aren’t afraid of rejection. You really can’t read, huh? Sorry that you’re obviously mentally disabled
@kyleelyn199723 I mean you’re ugly and snobby so what’s your excuse. And you’re mentally retarded to top it off also. Lol
@kyleelyn199723 you literally said it’s snobby to not reply to every single message you get. Lol. Retard
@Angie221994 🤣🤣🤣 you don’t even have a pic of yourself to suggest anything about my looks. You are a nut case and what’s even worse about you is you are a retard too. Your entitled self skipped right to insulting me when I proved your point wrong once AGAIN
@Angie221994 once again, I never said not replying to men you don’t want to talk to is snobby.
@kyleelyn199723 You sound like Donald trump. Lol. Denying stuff that you obviously said. And yeah you did say that. You said they don’t reply to every single message which makes them snobby. The only point you proved is that you’re mentally retarded 🥰
@kyleelyn199623 like you’re obviously upset because you’re a trannie and guys don’t want to date trannies lol
@Angie221994 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I’ve been in a relationship for 2 years you retard. Just keep making yourself look more stupid. It’s great when there’s multiple people in the comments witnessing you explode with trigger 🤣🤣🤣🤣 keep going
@kyleelyn199723 no it’s okay. I don’t like talking to the mentally ill like yourself. Have a good day, trannie. Hopefully your SO doesn’t dump you when he finds out you have a dick lol
@kyleelyn199723 oh so you’re SO is a retard also. Ok lol
@Angie221994 you don’t even know my SO and he is also BALD by choice. Are you mad? Keep going 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Angie221994 "What I’m talking about is that it’s something that MEN not women find unnattractive... Personally, I’m not into bald guys. Even if his face was attractive, I couldn’t get past the baldness and I’m not alone in feeling this way. "Can you not see the blazing contradiction in these two statements that you made? On the one hand you say that women don't find baldness unattractive, men do. BUT then on the other hand you say that you, presumably a woman, find baldness unattractive AND other women do too (presuming you have opinions to back it up). So you're really just talking out of both sides of your mouth."Most men who have gone bald, wish that they hadn’t. Which is why they spend money on products that promise to get their hairline back"Yes, but they wish they hadn't because of women like you who make it a point to say how unattractive bald men are. In fact, in your first response to @ManOnFire the first characteristic of these unattractive men that you describe is that they're bald. Not obesity or poor hygiene, but it's baldness that's the epitome of male unattractiveness, which is patently false.
@JSmuve wow you made a valid point that men only seeing being bald as a bad quality because they know many women are unattracted to it. But don’t bothering arguing with her. The moment I kept proving her points to be invalid and contradicting , she started throwing insults at me. Then once I started providing her insults to be false, she kept on going with different insults. She has no clue how to be wrong and the fact that she needs to read a book validating that men don’t go for the most attractive women usually is all I need to know. She read that as a validation point because she isn’t attractive in the slightest most likely
Proving her insults to be invalid**
@kyleelyn199723 Yes, I unfortunately read the entire exchange. Some women are like that; belittling someone instead of enriching the conversation."most average men and below are called creeps if they approach those women"I appreciated that you pointed this out. Not many women have the awareness to acknowledge this. It truly is unfortunate that we live in a society that says it's a man's job to approach and pursue, but then is called "desperate or creepy" if he tries too hard or with the wrong girl. Such is life though.
@JSmuve women do this all the time and what they don’t realize is, long before social media and iPhones, it was a NORM to approach women this way. Then women like her wonder why most attractive women do not get approached. They don’t for a reason. Their beauty has nothing to do with it. It has to do with the fact that most beautiful attractive women think they are superior to society. All you need to do is go on Instagram and look at Instagram models profiles to figure this one out
Even when I had an Instagram, I used to act superior to the men I didn’t find attractive and wouldn’t even acknowledge them even when they just comment on my pictures. Having beauty is a superiority game
@kyleelyn199723. Awe. I hurt the trannie’s feelings lol
@Angie221994 no one hurt my feelings hun, but nice you woke from the dead just to perpetuate more insults meanwhile I’m having an adult convo with someone else. I was just enlightening him that you are incapable of having adult conversations
@kyleelyn199723 nah some of us have a life. Bye retarded trannie
@Angie221994 you are so ample to throw insults you literally ignored the one person that actually tagged you to converse with you
@kyleelyn199723 yeah it’s impossible to have a convo since you’re mentally retarded
@angie221994 I’m retarded , but not one single person that has replied to you has agreed with you and your contradictions. Interesting. I guess we are all retarded to you
@angie221994 @JSmuve actually literally tagged you because he wanted to talk to you, but you literally dodged over his comment to insult me. This is how immature and ridiculous you are
Oh man. This gave me quite a few chuckles. Also quite a few thoughts of derision. The comments got way off the topic of of the question. What happened was; is the worst kind of dummy got involved one who thinks they are smart by speaking in double talk, projection and deflection every time she got shown she was wrong. This is very typical of these kind of combative type females. I think either this is a very narcissistic woman or more likely because of the lack of a profile picture a slothful type that doesn’t like the opinions because they don’t favor the slothful , gluttonous , and greedy types. People like this think they are the shit because they were born , or they know what they are and go on the defensive like a small child when confronted with bad behavior. Irregardless @Angie221994 you have completely shown your ass , and given all of gag the spectacle of your stupidity. Which I will hold up as typical female behavior when cornered. I suggest pulling the cotton from your ears and shoving it in your mouth. Also I’d suggest that you grow up and stop behaving as a child in a verbal tantrum. Adults can see through the projection , and deflection you engaged in. The amount of time and energy it took to do this further outlines your immaturity. Do yourself and the rest of a favor and seek professional help.
@AncientWisdom I think it’s hilarious for you to think that I would read your comment. I don’t have time for stupidity.
@angie221994 why aren’t you willing to read his? I didn’t even tag you in mine and you were willing to read mine 🤷🏻♀️
🤣🤣🤣🤣 she blocked me. What a dumb broad
Oh dear. My my my. @Kyleelyn199723 . Oh she read it. She just couldn’t say anything intelligent. Tell me are you surprised. I’m certainly not. Also make no mistake I don’t argue with these types of women. That serves their purpose. She isn’t trying to learn anything. She isn’t trying to gain knowledge at all. She is so caught up in her delusions she can’t hear or see anything that is in disagreement with her. I simply made a statement that I stand behind. Any argument it invites I will meet with silence for arguing with a fool only proves that you are one as well.
@AncientWisdom very wise stance and very true. I did argue with her, because I knew exactly what kind of person she was and I knew she was going to eventually name call me and I am not sure why I find it so entertaining when people get so wrapped up in wanting to be correct, that they start to throw jabs.
@Kyleelyn The easy answer to that is it’s fun. You have to admit sending a foolish person packing is very cool. I read the entire conversation twice. I then entered my opinion. I have put 200 years into my 55 I have lived and I packed it full of experiences. I traveled this world. I’ve seen and studied humans all of my life. I have worked the most dangerous jobs on earth. I take care of my body , and I exercise my mind in the continued pursuit of knowledge. I am a student of the human soul. I once did not speak or interact with humans at all for two years and 6 days. I lived in solitude so that I might become familiar with this man I am and the soul within. That being said people have become much like children to me in this modern day. It’s unfortunate that so many have no idea of their potential. Indeed most haven’t a clue of what we truly are as beings. I try to spread knowledge to the receptive. Trying to spread knowledge to a closed mind is an act of utter futility , and eventually remorse for another human that is lost.
@Kyleelyn199723 sorry I forgot the numbers.
I never understood the concept of "unattainable beauty standards". What standards? Beauty has no standards.People like different things, and people shouldn't try to attain beauty by altering their bodies or cramming makeup all over their face (as if we won't see the real them after it washes off).It's not a goal, she either is attractive to me naturally, or she isn't. But I keep hearing women say men give them this "unattainable goal", as if we expect them to transform like some polymorphing wizard instead of just rejecting them and looking elsewhere for what we want.
I hate living in this insane world. I wish this was the 1960s or 1980s and I was the same age in life I am now.
Men aren’t designed to look beautiful**
Women are naturally beautiful. But get brainwashed into thinking they need make up. Which a lot of the times it makes them look funny.
I agree. I may be attracted but I myself will be hitting the gym before I can date these guys.
@sweetpea95 well at least fit guys are your motivation to better yourself, but also do it for yourself! There’s so much benefits to being fit and healthy! I wish you the best!
Yeah being fit gives you a lot of confidence and makes you feel good about yourself. I appreciate girls trying to be fit because someone sexy like you is every man's desire :D
Ratings are really dumb my man. You're not a teenager..
Not really. You often see very attractive women with average looking dudes. Rarely is it the other way around.
Yeah I've seen it both ways but I see it more often where the guy is the attractive one with an average or below woman.
Depends on me. I'd gladly go with a cute plus size guy