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I'd rather aproach and make the first move. Yet if I'm aproached I wouldn't turn it down because it took a lot of courage for a girl to do it.
Yet if I'm not interested I wouldn't bother at all.
Some may want to be aproached other wouldn't.
Each with his poison.
I don't and I never did.
I imagine those who have primarily faced rejection would appreciate being the ones approached instead, on the simple principle that they are getting the guarantee that the woman is in fact interested in them.
Ironically, though.
I don't believe this gives any guarantee that such an approach will actually be fruitful.
As many women can probably attest, on here and in general, making the first move on a man is surprisingly unsuccessful as well.
In my experience, a man can be attracted to a woman and view her sexually and respectfully. I. e. marriage material etc. But the moment she does the masculine thing by taking action, her value plummets from Miss Right to Miss Right Now. Men are constantly on here about how they want women to approach.
Don't listen unless you want to be viewed as a hookup.
I have never had an issue moving things forward but I have now chosen to be patient and be courted. It's harder since I'm intuitive and restless. But it's the more feminine approach and is better for my desired relationship outcomes.
Be approcahble, easy and vulnerable but DO NOT do the asking out, approaching proposing. It can go well but it mostly doesn't.
Do u seriously think not asking guys out is how u get proposed to
@RandomDude212121 making men comfortable is how you get propsed to. If you make it clear you are a sure thing but stopping short of propsing him you maintain more value. If you propse him he will certainly be happy and elated but I feel it lowers your value and you get a lower quality of treatment from the man. That has been my experience.
Maybe men are sick of ur princess attitude
@RandomDude212121 yes, that must be it.
You're confused.
It's little to do with first moves, and more to do with alignment. Do you recall what was wrong with the last guy that you rejected? Of course you do, and so will the last guy that rejected you.
Just like a failed interview is not always going to take you down point by point on why you were rejected. You have to take some responsibility for not preparing well enough and aligning yourself.
You are adults. You need to grow out of the childish notions you have of how dating, and relationships actually work.
Modern woman: "I hate traditional gender roles and think they should all be abolished"
Modern man: "But what about dating conventions like the man always having to ask the woman out and paying for the first date?"
Modern woman: "Whoever asks the other person out should pay"
Modern man: "But men are always the ones who have to do the asking, so they are always the ones who do the paying?"
Modern woman: "So?"
Modern man: "So men are the ones who have to risk rejection and humiliations, and they are rewarded for that by also having to pay?"
Modern woman: "Stop fucking whining you simp"
Modern man: "Modern women are very hypocritical"
Modern woman: "Fuck you"
To answer your question directly... yes, men REALLY want women to stop being hypocritical, cowardly and entitled and start making the first move.
Hahaha, so true!
If you want to be really traditional, women expressed interest first. They'd drop something, a guy would pick it up and they'd talk. So she'd drop her handkerchief or some such to get a guy to pick it up and talk to her. So women originally made the first move. Now that they want equality they can be more direct.
if you want someone... go for it. Doesn't matter if you are a man or woman in my opinion
100% agree.
Men really just want women
I chose equal. I'm pretty shy so I don't have the guts to make the first move. So far, it's always been the guys that approached me first. I would be open to confessing first to a guy if I feel like I can't miss the chance.
I was pretty old minded on this one and I've never had a boyfriend. Time has changed girls, we should approach too, or at least be nicer to the ones who approach.
Never once asked a girl. And that's how I work so unless if they ask me it will never happen so that's their choice really. So yeah I am pretty clear that I want women to ask.
I think there should be equal approaching on both sides. Women who never approach men or think they should never make the first move are clearly misinformed.
It depends on the situation, when I'm sober and right minded I like to make the preliminary approach and assess from there. If I'm inebriated I know I need to make the first approach because I drop the ess off assess, and am just an ass. If she's inebriated I know to be afraid, be very afraid
Whoever makes up their mind first should do their move. Don't wait to see if the other figure it out, give them a better chance to actually align with you by doing your move.
It should be equal. Im tired of these ‘its the mans job’ to approach rules.
everytime i see any of those girls complaining about ‘there are no good guys’ i roll my eyes. ‘Have you tried approaching yourself?’
It's natural for men to approach. but unnatural for them to need to worry about being jailed for doing so. Thus the two cancel each other out. When women have approached me, they have done a terrible job of it, but that's because it is not natural.
I think that women are usually the more reserve ones. Hence the job of a man is not to declare himself to her, but to make it easy for her to feel comfortable and show any interest she could have. So she feels free to decide.
The moment I started treating women like this, it has been like day and night.
Equality...
Men can also be as fearful of rejection, Plus in this day and age, if you like someone go do something about it or you may miss out...
I always think that if they say NO then your in no different position than you were, but there is that possibility of a YES, where as if you don't ask, well its an instant NO...
Shy Bairn's Get Nowt as the old saying goes...
both I think I think it would help if girls / women were to give a true answer I been told no and walked away and latter been asked why. if you walk up to any guy / man and ask a question he will in 99% of the time give you a truthful answer
Rejection is less of the problem than the sheer amount of manipulation and time wasting that women do.