Cause confidence is not always attractive to every guy? People keep doing this thing where they group mentalities and opinions based upon gender, which has causes these stigmas to grow. Every guy is different to their own degree upon how much confidence is necessary in a relationship. We should be looking at each others individual interests rather than what meaningless correlations occur within genders, which at the end of the day do not exist. Not all Men do "This or that"; the same way not all women do "That and this". It is a toxic mindset that is going to lead to quick stereotypes that infects how you think of a person before you even interact with them. This is how racism, sexism, and all the other 'isms' are constructed.
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It seems you are projecting here. Confidence is extremely important to women in their attraction to men, but the same is not as true in men's attraction to women. Confidence is a component of masculinity, but not so much of femininity. Vulnerability and modesty are much more important in femininity. So your question is based on a false assumption to begin with.
And I know you don't want to hear it, but many women who view themselves as confident and strong do have personality issues that make them unappealing to men, and they often do not know how or are unwilling to treat a man well. This is a point that cannot be overstated because it's very common.
The women could be choosy or the men would like different qualities other than confidence. Just because someone is attractive doesn't mean they're someone; men would like to date. Yes, being visually appealing can be great but some people want more than just being confident and or attractive
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The first factor is that I don't agree confidence is necessarily as attractive in women.
Second thing is, it's not confidence as women see it. Confidence in men is seen to manifest as assertiveness. In women confidence manifests as gregariousness. As such, "knowing who you are" or "standing up for yourself" doesn't really do anything for me.
I would say, what's important is not being high in that trait, but rather being low in another trait: Neuroticism. And gregariousness then lets people see that you're not neurotic.
If you're so confident, then cold approach a couple hundred men and try to pick them up. See if anyone bites. If you want a relationship, then you have to put in the work. What good is knowing who you are, if who you are is a lazy person that puts no work into relationships? Do the fucking work and put in the time, if you want to form relationships... If that's what you want, then it should be worth the effort.
Confidence is an attribute, not the whole picture. If a woman was gorgeous with zero confidence it would be annoying but most guys would put up with it. If she has zero confidence and was average and complained everyday you'd want nothing to do with her
First of all, you are probably not socially smart enough to know what confidence really is so I won’t believe someone is genuinely confident just because you say so!
It could indeed just be cockiness and a ‘woke’ mindset which you seem to think is confidence.
And there are many more factors involved in making a woman attractive and many of those factors are more important than confidence.
Any guy who has had an insecure girlfriend will tell you it's better to have one who is confident in the sense of being ground and self-assured. But perception means a lot in dating and it's possible she is perceived incorrectly. Or more likely, she hasn't found what she wants yet.
You pretty much answered your question by your updates. You may not see it but many men will. Confidence is never a turn off. So if you still fail then it must be some other factor that your confidence can't overcome or your confidence may not be construed as confidence by men. Which is most often the scenario. There is a fine line between being confident and being a dick and there is a fine line between confidence and being a bitch. Find the line and tone it back would be my advice.
Well dating takes 2 people, right? So you have a bunch of insecure and unhealthy women, but you also have a bunch of insecure and unhealthy men. If you think about it, it's way more likely that the person you're talking to is unhealthy than it is that they are healthy.
An emotionally healthy woman will appeal to an emotionally healthy man, but since there are so many more unhealthy people than healthy, being healthy is going narrow your dating pool options considerably.
A lot of confident women are content with themselves and will not accept a mediocre man which limits their options. There are many insecure women that will accept a loser because they don’t believe they can do better. If you’ll accept a crappy relationship it’ll make it easier to find one.
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Honestly, how would you know that some of these women aren't the problem? Just because a woman is confident and knows who she is, doesn't mean there aren't other issues with her that would make her incompatible to a lot of men.
Confidence is attractive but also it can be intimidating. There is also the risk that it is hubris, or overconfidence, I think that people who are arrogant are to be avoided usually. I appreciate people who can back up there confidence but it’s a thin line sometimes.
Men are lying. They are the most insecure on this earth. They lie to shield their own insecurities and the fact that they are afraid to due alone. Women have no issues being single. We don't go around hounding men for dates and phone numbers. That's what they do.
Maybe they were slutty and can't get guys to commit. Maybe they are trying to bite off more than they can chew and the level of guy they want is only willing to have them as hookups not girlfriends. Maybe they're not attractive, maybe they don't seem approachable, maybe they're single moms.
When you make broad statements like "why confident/attractive women single" it's pretty hard to give a definite answer.
Because they choose to be single. They most likely enjoy working on their careers and not interested in the drama that comes with long term relationships or marriage
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Who says guys like confident women? I’ve never heard that in my life lol. Kind, caring, funny, smart, sure, but confident? Nope. I could seriously care less how confident my girlfriend is. All that matters is if she is comfortable with me and that I’m comfortable with her. I don’t need her to be comfortable doing an elevator pitch or public speaking. Wtf lol.
For years (two decades lol), that is something that I have heard women say waaay more than men.
I have an understanding where you're coming from but to be honest i would think it's we are more atracted to a combination of playful timidness and femininity.
But if you will, enlighten me where you got this idea/notion from.
Because they have an ego and a wall up, usually at least. Confidence isn't really a priority for men either, femininity is, submissiveness is. Men dislike indisiveness and cowardice I think, it's not so much we look for confidence in women. Men want to be the protectors. We don't want a masculine woman.
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Cause confidence is not always attractive to every guy?
People keep doing this thing where they group mentalities and opinions based upon gender, which has causes these stigmas to grow. Every guy is different to their own degree upon how much confidence is necessary in a relationship. We should be looking at each others individual interests rather than what meaningless correlations occur within genders, which at the end of the day do not exist.
Not all Men do "This or that"; the same way not all women do "That and this". It is a toxic mindset that is going to lead to quick stereotypes that infects how you think of a person before you even interact with them. This is how racism, sexism, and all the other 'isms' are constructed.
It seems you are projecting here. Confidence is extremely important to women in their attraction to men, but the same is not as true in men's attraction to women. Confidence is a component of masculinity, but not so much of femininity. Vulnerability and modesty are much more important in femininity. So your question is based on a false assumption to begin with.
And I know you don't want to hear it, but many women who view themselves as confident and strong do have personality issues that make them unappealing to men, and they often do not know how or are unwilling to treat a man well. This is a point that cannot be overstated because it's very common.
The women could be choosy or the men would like different qualities other than confidence. Just because someone is attractive doesn't mean they're someone; men would like to date. Yes, being visually appealing can be great but some people want more than just being confident and or attractive
The first factor is that I don't agree confidence is necessarily as attractive in women.
Second thing is, it's not confidence as women see it. Confidence in men is seen to manifest as assertiveness. In women confidence manifests as gregariousness. As such, "knowing who you are" or "standing up for yourself" doesn't really do anything for me.
I would say, what's important is not being high in that trait, but rather being low in another trait: Neuroticism. And gregariousness then lets people see that you're not neurotic.
If you're so confident, then cold approach a couple hundred men and try to pick them up. See if anyone bites. If you want a relationship, then you have to put in the work. What good is knowing who you are, if who you are is a lazy person that puts no work into relationships? Do the fucking work and put in the time, if you want to form relationships... If that's what you want, then it should be worth the effort.
Confidence is an attribute, not the whole picture. If a woman was gorgeous with zero confidence it would be annoying but most guys would put up with it. If she has zero confidence and was average and complained everyday you'd want nothing to do with her
Men don't care about a woman's confidence, men are looking for pretty women.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MenAreStrongWomenArePretty
First of all, you are probably not socially smart enough to know what confidence really is so I won’t believe someone is genuinely confident just because you say so!
It could indeed just be cockiness and a ‘woke’ mindset which you seem to think is confidence.
And there are many more factors involved in making a woman attractive and many of those factors are more important than confidence.
Any guy who has had an insecure girlfriend will tell you it's better to have one who is confident in the sense of being ground and self-assured. But perception means a lot in dating and it's possible she is perceived incorrectly. Or more likely, she hasn't found what she wants yet.
You pretty much answered your question by your updates. You may not see it but many men will. Confidence is never a turn off. So if you still fail then it must be some other factor that your confidence can't overcome or your confidence may not be construed as confidence by men. Which is most often the scenario. There is a fine line between being confident and being a dick and there is a fine line between confidence and being a bitch. Find the line and tone it back would be my advice.
Well dating takes 2 people, right? So you have a bunch of insecure and unhealthy women, but you also have a bunch of insecure and unhealthy men. If you think about it, it's way more likely that the person you're talking to is unhealthy than it is that they are healthy.
An emotionally healthy woman will appeal to an emotionally healthy man, but since there are so many more unhealthy people than healthy, being healthy is going narrow your dating pool options considerably.
A lot of confident women are content with themselves and will not accept a mediocre man which limits their options. There are many insecure women that will accept a loser because they don’t believe they can do better. If you’ll accept a crappy relationship it’ll make it easier to find one.
Honestly, how would you know that some of these women aren't the problem? Just because a woman is confident and knows who she is, doesn't mean there aren't other issues with her that would make her incompatible to a lot of men.
Confidence is attractive but also it can be intimidating. There is also the risk that it is hubris, or overconfidence, I think that people who are arrogant are to be avoided usually. I appreciate people who can back up there confidence but it’s a thin line sometimes.
Men are lying. They are the most insecure on this earth. They lie to shield their own insecurities and the fact that they are afraid to due alone. Women have no issues being single. We don't go around hounding men for dates and phone numbers. That's what they do.
Women aren't settling for them.
Maybe they were slutty and can't get guys to commit. Maybe they are trying to bite off more than they can chew and the level of guy they want is only willing to have them as hookups not girlfriends. Maybe they're not attractive, maybe they don't seem approachable, maybe they're single moms.
When you make broad statements like "why confident/attractive women single" it's pretty hard to give a definite answer.
Because they choose to be single. They most likely enjoy working on their careers and not interested in the drama that comes with long term relationships or marriage
Who says guys like confident women? I’ve never heard that in my life lol. Kind, caring, funny, smart, sure, but confident? Nope. I could seriously care less how confident my girlfriend is. All that matters is if she is comfortable with me and that I’m comfortable with her. I don’t need her to be comfortable doing an elevator pitch or public speaking. Wtf lol.
I would think to say you have that one reversed.
For years (two decades lol), that is something that I have heard women say waaay more than men.
I have an understanding where you're coming from but to be honest i would think it's we are more atracted to a combination of playful timidness and femininity.
But if you will, enlighten me where you got this idea/notion from.
Because they have an ego and a wall up, usually at least. Confidence isn't really a priority for men either, femininity is, submissiveness is. Men dislike indisiveness and cowardice I think, it's not so much we look for confidence in women. Men want to be the protectors. We don't want a masculine woman.