Could you date someone with no long term goals?

[Desconhecida]

[molonski2]

Oh Hell NO ! I've done this once or twice , these people all return to their common denominator , and that is being a lazy , unmotivated , complain about everything , world owes me a living , welfare handout attitude , Ohh , but she has a " good " heart , and was void of opportunity ! hahahaha NOPE ! She was a lazy unmotivated bitch , and guess what they remain the same , both male and female.

You can't SAVE the unmotivated , welfare , lazy attitude , and again , they will ALWAYS return to same , motivated people are motivated no matter what their background or opportunity , that's a different thing.

[UniquelyBasic]

Having long term goals doesn't ensure that a relationship will work or the other way around. You dont have to have a pinpoint plan of your life but just be passionate about something and be willing to work towards that goal. Some people are content being where they are and thats fine, its their life and its not my place to tell them otherwise.

[Kkstarzz96]

As someone who had no long term goals, the right person made me want to strive for long term goals. The person you love inspires you to do things you did not think you could do before. So if you're dating someone and they have no motivation to do anything beyond today, they don't see a future with you or for themselves. But if it's for themselves you can do the best you can to encourage them to dig deeper but it's ultimately their decision and when they're ready to make it, and you don't have to wait on them unless you see a potential. No one actually thought I was stupid they just knew that I was lost.

[WhatTheHeckkkk]

Hell no. Sorry, but if there’s no long term goals for their own personal life, then I don’t even know if I could be in a relationship with them. Like, they have no idea what they want? That also affects relationship goals too… So, no.


I’d rather date someone who at least has a general idea of what they want in the future…. A certain career, a house, marriage, kids, etc.

[TonyMetal___86]

Well said 🙂

[Account]

Yes, for sure. I like spontaneous people who live in the moment. I don't give a fuck if they have long term goals or not.

[Account]

Of course living for the moment doesn't mean that they are not working or that they are lazy. There is a difference. I wouldn't date someone who doesn't work though.

[TheRealSalami]

That would be fine as I'm still learning what I want to do with my life as well. We would probably find out what the hell to do with our lives together and if not, well... we have time. It's not like we're dying tomorrow. I do not have any long term goals whatsoever. All I know is the present, which is being in the military, but as for when I get out, I have no fucking clue. Is that a deal breaker when dating? Probably for other people, but since I experience it myself..., I think it's fine to date someone with no long term goals.

[wheresmrcunnunglis]

Nope and I learned that the hard way. If one has no ambition and you're dating them. They will simply try and downplay and belittle yours so you can have no drive like them.
It's actually made me resistant sharing my ambitions with partners now and now extend the practice of the phrase " don't share your goals or aspirations that you have planned. As the act of sharing is equivalent to the act of doing." To ALL forms of my relationships. Platonic or intimate.

[Anonymous]

I’m sure you can , even should.
Dating is to get to know a future possible that partner. You should be able to study that person and get to know them on a more personal level before making long-term decisions with him/her.

They could turn out to be:
aggressive
Impulsive
manipulative
narcissistic
bipolar
be a mommas-boy
be a daddy’s-girl
be lazy
be criminals
have history of cheating
have kids or hiding that hey have kids
have several Sexually-Transmited Illnesses

You just never know. I’ve seen it all.
Please study a future partner.
Please take your sweet-a$$ time with them, Please don’t become too invested.
Make your intentions clear to someone.

Dont make long-term decisions with someone without knowing them well.
Like having babies
Getting a car
Moving In
Moving away

Things can go left REAL FAST

[Anonymous]

The desire to want your partner to have specific long term goals is to believe they will be successful.

It can be an attribute of being lazy and unmotivated to work, but it is also an attribute of being flexible. The difference is whether or not the man IS working hard for money and is committed to you.

Flexibility is a survival trait for a large amount of people in fact it may be among the most valuable of them all in today fast changing world. Having a fixed goal your stubbornly focused upon may indicate will and hard work but it could also be an liability to a relationship.
How many relationships fall apart because a partner is too committed to a goal rather than family?

I for one would not date or marry a dedicated career woman with lofty goals because it leaves too little time or interest for the family I would be marrying her to make.

[Chaneille]

That's alright I guess. To some extent though. My current boyfriend doesn't have any long term goals but he's very successful. He's one of those who live in the moment. I don't think there's anything wrong with having no long term goes but be tackling some daily goals to sustain yourself.

[shaysh87]

you better be careful about marrying a guy like that. Someone with no long term goals tend to be lazy, unmotivated, and will never ever succeed in life. Chances are he will be the type who would sit in front of the tv while you do all the housework. you need someone who wants to do things in life.

[Lionman95]

No because that would mean that the relationship isn´t going for long well. No goals means to me that a person has no deeper interests in achieving anything and I can´t stand that because these are often times the people that are blaming others for their problems.

[DaveJord]

At 45 I can, because I have achieved all I need to achieve for myself and am finically secure for life. I do not need anything from a partner other than them being self supporting and available to me emotionally and physically.

Now at 20 or 30 or if your even 40 or 50 and struggling finically or have not reach the panicle in your life, hell no stay way from losers.

[HawkPerception]

Goals are not a prerequisite requirement for my ideal partner. I have goals of my own and that's all I need. The only thing I want in a partner is chemistry (similar views, interests, sense of humor, and sense of understanding one another) that I fully trust.

[ChrisMaster69]

Yeah I could and have in the past,

it’s just been mutual to date knowing that in say 8 months they go home and I go home.

it sounds better than saying we just fucked each other exclusively for 8 months.

i am in a relationship at moment that possibly has no long term goal.

[ohshee]

For baby about 10 minutes LOL do we as people we're always growing and if nobody has any long-term then they're not going to grow and if they're not going to grow you going to grow up way past them and then you're not going to get along anymore a relationship takes two people and it takes hard work but you have to understand that and then you have to put the work into it and that's the beautiful part. About that is growing together

[Lliam]

Probably not if she didn't have a decent job already and had no relationship goals or hopes and dreams for the future. Such a person would be rather hollow.

I only dated girls who were determined to make their own way and build lives for themselves.

[Gaibriel]

Yes because I don't plan on having kids and as long as they are financially responsible, who cares?

Meaning they know how to save and don't spend it all randomly.

Other than that what am I? Their damn long terms goal advisor?

No they can live life how they want as long as we are compatible in thought such as they too don't want kids. Otherwise I'd be letting them down.

[jim_moriarty]

Men don't care about long term goal or career of a woman. 1) are you beautiful 2) are you loyal 3) what is your body count 4) do you have family values? These are all the questions that matters

[Emiliamazing]

I think it’s important that you each have goals and perhaps if this is going to be a long-term relationship, your long-term goals and even short term goals, benefit not only yourself but the relationship as a whole. Clarity is key.

[GingerGuy]

Of course. "Meaning" behind that 1) isn't necessarily true, and 2) judgmental. You'd have to get to know them better before (which requires dating) to know them better and how they are. Not necessarily "bad".

[HD1450]

I like your answer...

[Telekinetic-Potato]

No, and this is something I learned from the last two women I dated. I will not date someone who doesn't know their purpose or isn't at least looking for it.

[Kaneki05]

What if one's long term goal is to get a partner? And if it wasn't then why are they dating me then. And I would have to say no.
But everyone has a long term goal if they want a partner.

[1-3-2-4]

No! I learned the hard way my wife (soon to be ex) pretty much I had to push her so many times and I got in many of arguments over her not really wanting to work while I’m footing all the bills.. been married for 4 years.. I’ve had enough!

[Telekinetic-Potato]

Is that the meaning of your username?

[1-3-2-4]

@Telekinetic-Potato nah it’s the firing order of a 4 cylinder Subaru.

[FinalFantasyBro]

If she is currently on the undecided group but she is planning to change I don't mind it, I wouldn't mind helping out with her but if she is flat ass lazy or request me to do all the work than that a big fat no.

[ChiTown33]

I would need a better definition. Most people I know don't have long term goals. And if that were true I wouldn't be willing to date just about anyone.
But I think very different than your avg. Cat. I was planning my retirement at 25. Lol

[ChiTown33]

I'm less concerned with her goals than her values and drive.

[ImDusty]

Yea, I don't care if she has her own goals, she can support mine and be along for the ride.
"Behind every great man.."

[KejKej]

I am afraid because I started figuring out what I want this year when I will be 33 years old. I hope it's too old for me and girls won't give me a chance

[HD1450]

Come on man you are still a puppy yet. If a woman will not even give you a chance and has her nose that high in the air to be that judgmental then I can't see where you would want to be with her to begin with. I am an old soldier at 66 years of age and if a woman tries to brush me off that's fine and I move on. I guarantee you that there is someone out there for everyone, you just need a little patience.

[KejKej]

@HD1450 It's not about women. I meant that there is probably too late for to START pursue my dreams/goals/passions/hobbies/whatever.

[BCA6010]

No, in fact I consider the "I don't think that far ahead, and just live in the now" mindset to be a red flag for a bad relationship.

[Sour-rose]

I don't think so. Can't have some dumb bish sitting on my couch just watching netflix all day and not making any money.

[Phoenix-gb]

As I've failed every long term goal I set myself when I was younger and have the depression and feelings of worthlessness to prove it, yes I could.

[NathanDavis]

yes, I could... short and medium term goals does not necessarily imply aimless or careless as the picture in the question seems to suggest

[Jamie05rhs]

Define "date."

If we're just starting to date, then we can just go with the flow.
But we get serious and start "dating" each other, then we need to have goals for the relationship.

[Jamie05rhs]

I feel like everyone else here answered a different question than I did.

[Iron_Man]

Well you always have to have some type of a goal but to answer your question yes I will because I’m talking to a girl now that sits in her bedroom all day long and barely leaves the house She’s 30 years old

[crossdressingrihno]

Depends
I certainly don't want to be with mooch or someone with no drive but if they have themselves set up straight then they are a maybe

[TheSpaceGnome]

it depends on if they get things done fast enough to have everything be short term goals, or if they have everything they want already. if they aren't a creative type though I'm not interested.

[Agape93]

No. If I'm the only one with ambition, you're an anchor holding me back and I will cut you loose.

[__cassiexxx]

Yes as I’m young and still trying to figure out where I want to be in life

[XhmadRooz]

I believe, I really don't need to explain my life goals to someone who is going to be for a short period of time in my life.

[TyLeeAndPink]

No. Where would the relationship even be going? I don't see the point in a romantic relationship with no plans or even ideas for the future.

[The_Shadow_Dweller]

Nope.
I am not the hookup type guy. I can tell you that.
So someone with a plan would be good.

[Selena1987]

You and your partner should have the same goals in the relationship
I myself never start a relationship with no long term goals
I don’t waste my time for the one who’ll not be in my future

[Avicenna]

Yeah, but I would not support her financially, let her move in with me or have a kid with her

[maverick2022]

[Nigjt]

Yes but only if she was willing to let me do the planning for us both.
Then if she show me that she was no longer willing to the she would have to go another words get the Hell out.
God Bless

[dragoblack]

Yep. Goals are not always set in stone. Sometimes it is certain events that change goals. Even if she just wants to live in the moments, I'm fine with that.

[Juxtapose]

We are all born just to die so our only goal should be to have fun while prolonging our lives.

[Juxtapose]

I wouldn't care if she had goals or not.

[Alyssa_11]

No because I don’t want to end up paying all the bills

[jim_moriarty]

Why not? men have been doing it since the beginning. Why don't you women marry a man with no money and social status and be breadwinner of the family?

[TonyMetal___86]

@jim_moriarty what if she's a lady who wants to become a housewife and find a man who will grant her this wish? Would you tell a housewife: "why don't you pay all the bills?"...

She's already paying something a lot more important than bills, which is taking care of you, making you happy, cooking for you, washing you're clothes and doing all the house chores plus raising you're kids!

You were given strength so you can work hard outside to provide and bring food to you're family while a girl is given the nuturing part so that she stays at home and does her role...

I know that times have changed but the basics are still the same, you can never be a woman and a woman can never be a man!

[jim_moriarty]

@TonyMetal___86 hello , this is 2022. Did you came here with a time machine from 60's?

Anyway if women could become housewife, why not men become houseman? Why don't all the rich successful career women marry uneducated or unemployed men and make them housemen. They could take care of the household and cook them food, take care of children etc. Why do they bother about career of men anymore? Women have golden opportunity to destroy the stereotype, all im asking is why don't they use it?

[TonyMetal___86]

@jim_moriarty you have you're views and i have mine and i'm very happy because at least i have a time machine while you don't 😂

[jim_moriarty]

@TonyMetal___86 we are not talking about "tony's view" here. I asked a specific question to a woman. And you came from nowhere and speak something that have no relevance to the topic. Women wanted to fight against patriyarchy and destroy it and still want men to protect and provide for them , thats absurd. Thats what im talking about here

[LadiesFavoriteToy]

Seen that before but she loved to pay for his sorry ass.

[TonyMetal___86]

@jim_moriarty if you are truly living in this era which is the year 2022 than if you're smart enough you would of knew that there are 2 types of girls, the majority are the gold diggers, the rare part are the good girls and there is this like 2% of women who accepts to provide for a man who is unwilling to do a thing or becoming a househusband!

Feminists only supports women who destroys men from all sides and the majority of the world is being poisoned by feminazis, i hope that you get the message now!

[jim_moriarty]

@TonyMetal___86 if you were smart enough, you would understand that im just exposing the hypocrisy of modern women.

If you were smart enough, you would know there only gold diggers only because there are gold givers. You cannot blame a group of women for receiving gold when there are group of spineless men ready to give them gold because they have no other value or skill. Women have a separate organ dedicated to sexual pleasure, they have multiple orgasam , and there are still men out there who believe the best way to get it is through spending money. Women are not coin activated , they are voice activated. Men should be responsible with their own money and protect it at all cost.

You cannot classify any women into good or bad these days. Good girl image could be a trap. You should always expect the worst. The one you thought as "good" could be the one who divorcerape you in family court. Just accept the realities of modern world and make wise decisions to protect yourself and your assets.

And Feminism is not at all a bad thing. It liberated men the same way it liberated women. Its not my responsibility to take care of a woman anymore, its not my responsibility to sacrifice myself for the society, family and children. Men used to sacrifice our life , fruit of labour for the benefit of society and family, we don't need to do that anymore. Before Feminism, we had to marry women to have $x with them, we don't need to do that anymore.

Men are being punished in family court because of the laws men created themselves to punish other men. Some men thought its the duty men to pay for their wife, feminist didn't create the concept of alimony, traditional men did it. The "protect and provide" mentality is our curse. Men are our worst enimies not Feminists.

[rocksongwriter]

Well, historically, women have kids and men work to provide resources to the children. Asking a woman to have children and then sending her out into the workforce to provide for both the children and you while you stay home and not work... well that's something new. She's going to wonder what exactly you are contributing to the relationship.

[jim_moriarty]

@rocksongwriter , good thing we don't live "historically", its a new world. Women could bear children and men could take care of them. That way women don't have to be oppressed by the "patriyarchy of evil men". There are plenty of single moms out there, why don't they marry such unemployed men and make them take care of the household. at least its a fight against patriyarchy. Men don't have problem with marrying someone who don't have any education/job , why can't women do the same? at least to fight "evil patriyarchy" they always complain about. They always blame men for patriyarchy, but the truth is women created it out of their necessity and now shamelessly blame men for everything. Female hypergamous nature is the foundation of patriyarchy. Aslong as there is female hypergamy, there will be patriyarchy. More men should be aware of this fact and stop women from blaming us anymore for their weakness.

Nb: I don't hate Feminism, I only hate hypocrisy

[rocksongwriter]

@jim_moriarty I'm pretty sure it's spelled "patriarchy".

[jim_moriarty]

@rocksongwriter , English is not my first language, I do my best with what I know

[Alyssa_11]

To whoever’s complaining about my comment - i said what I said 🤷🏻‍♀️ lol

[jim_moriarty]

@Alyssa_11 I wasn't complaining , I was just wondering. Like, Why not? men have been doing it since the beginning, taking care of family financially. Why don't you women marry a man with no money and social status and be the breadwinner of the family? Why do you bother about the long term goal of men anymore? Don't you want to destroy "evil patriyarchy" that oppressing you, like all the evil men who are working hard for their family. Aren't you fedup with that oppression, don't you want to reverse it?

[Alyssa_11]

Actually I like being the lady of the house and contributing to the home in a different way. Through providing for my partner a clean cosy home and his favourite meals and kids. My career isn’t about money for me it’s about having something for myself which boosts my mental health

[jim_moriarty]

It is actually sad that men don't have the option to be the man in the house and "contribute to the home in a different way" like many of the woman do. Women have the option to choose career or be unemployed without any stigma. From your comment it seems you are a traditional woman but you have a "career" , seems like you are selectively traditional. If career is not about money, would you do it for free? People do job to satisfy their needs, I don't need to hear any bs. Anyway best of luck 👍

[TonyMetal___86]

@jim_moriarty why don't you just accept the facts the way they are and move on!
If that's what you want in life than go fetch it!
You're attacks are lame because people are different and you cannot force you're views on anyone!
Humans were like that since the dawn of times, also god created us this way and nature have shaped us to become the people who we are in the present day while you want to change all of these in a blink of an eye...

Who told you that all men wants to be a part of you're ideology? I'll never accept to sit at home and does nothing cause i'm not good at all doing a female role inside the house, i do my role and she does hers...

Only a simp would want to sit like a couch potato at home to act like a girl, well there no stigma about women becoming housewives, it's because it's in their nature and because it's their basic role in life and for a successful family, you need the man to work outside and the woman inside doing their traditional roles to accomplish a happy family!

You're physical structure and mentality was given to you for a reason and same for women!

You cannot have the right person in the wrong place nor having the wrong person in the right place!

[TonyMetal___86]

@alyssa_11 miss alyssa rapunzel some people are just hard headed and just wanna argue for no reason 😏

[jim_moriarty]

@TonyMetal___86 do you honesty believe these women give a shit about you? To these women, men like you are "evil men perpetuating evil patriyarchy" whereas im a good guy who don't want to oppress them. People like you would be considered as sexist and misogynist for suggesting female roles (they expect traditional male roles from you hypocriticaly, but don't you dare suggest them to become traditional woman and to keep their virginity till marriage, stuff like that).
Nobody has any gratitude for men like you. You are doing favour to bunch of ungrateful narcissists

You are living in a lie , wake up dude. Its because of men like you we men are in this unfortunate situation. You are afraid of women, you don't hold them responsible for their own actions , you don't question their hypocrisy.

I have my own career, But I always make sure that we share the expenses equally , if I get married, I will have a pretty good Prenup. Im very strict about the money that I spent , Im not going spent it on any modern women, why would I pay for something other men got for free?

This is the situation of men in this day and age:
1) Almost 50% of marriage endup in divorce, and women file 80 percent of that divorce.
2) women are more likely to get the custody of children
3) paying her legal fees
4) losing half of your assets
5) family courts will believe anything a woman says including false accusations
6) going broke after divorce
7) lifetime of alimony.

Do you still want to contribute like a bafoon? If you don't realise whats happening in this world, if you are not careful, you are Fkd. There are no traditional women anymore, they are like unicorn, stop living in your fantasy or you will be divorceraped in family court.

And , Why the hell do we still pay alimony anymore? Aren't we all equal now? Men are getting punished because of brain-dead men like you. Why do men have to go through this shit?

[TonyMetal___86]

@jim_moriarty i agree with you on some of the points which are legal points!
Anyways i'm a real man and i don't go with the flow, you see i don't give a damn if women likes me or not, what made you think that i care? Well i care only about the ones who cares about me and the world still got some nice women out there who aren't evil and won't do all the things that you have mentioned!

Look i've been through all this sh*t and came out victorious to prove that people like you are wrong, i admit that it was hard but when you're a real man and everybody believes in you than you will smash all the liars and evil actors!

If you believe in equality than you're the one who's living in la la land because you do realize that feminists wants all the good things that men have to be robbed, it's like taking the meat from you and throwing you back as a bone!

Men created laws to protect oppressed women from violence and rale and to have these rights as a human being because she is a human just like you!

It's those radical feminazis who brought all this sh*t, destroying men and trying so hard to give all the privilidges to women under the name of equal rights, they don't give a f*ck about you if suffer or die or felt oppress with a specific justice system, all they care about is revenge and making you a slave to them till the point of worshiping them and they want you to have no right at all and to make you're life worth sh*t while theirs is priceless!

Why do you still pay alimony? You ask yourself!
It's because it benefits the feminism movement, they remain quiet about it and because men these days are just male cockroaches, do not say no about anything!

Why there aren't men movements, why don't the men in position piss on such laws and f*ck the feminazis off!

You just wanna sit you're a*s at home and having a girl providing for you, than good luck in finding you're impossible wish!

[TonyMetal___86]

Learn something dude, no girl will ever love you if you aren't able to give her something, love for us means a specific thing while for women they see love in a different way...

EVEN if someday you find a woman who's willing to act like a man and make you a house husband, than let's see how will she treats you and don't come to me nagging and crying telling me that i always right and for sure you ain't a Brad Pitt looking guy to attract women to you!

Women aren't like men, they were born with a different mind, different views, different feelings and a different body... etc

Good luck in finding a girl who accepts to give you this lifestyle!

[jim_moriarty]

@TonyMetal___86 1) I know female nature and I know its hypergamous. Only pets, women and children are loved unconditionally, men are loved under the condition that they provide something. Thats not going to change ever.
What I asked her was a "rhetorical question" knowing these facts. I didn't expect you would come up with some other nonsense in the middle of it.
2) Alimony is legalized slavery and men must fight against it

3 ) "Real man" is a term invented to make men stick to basic traditional male roles just like "real women" was invented to keep women in kitchen. Its nothing but a trap created by society. I don't need such definitions. You see, I guide my fate. I fashion the course of my life, I make my own definitions, I don't need somebody else to tell me what to do. I don't give a fk about societies expectations.

4) You said all women are not the same, of course not. But how do you know which one is good? Do you have any reliable scientific measure to find out which women is good which is not? Only time will tell you that. The woman you knew for 20 years, one you thought as "real woman" , one you loved and trusted so much would later would fk somebody else for fun. And you would endup paying huge sum of alimony and childcare. While she go out there and have more fun , you will be forced to pay her bills. Men like me would be fkg her at the expense of men like you. You are useful that way

[jim_moriarty]

In US , almost 50% of marriage endup in divorce and almost 80% of it is initiated by women (its almost common everywhere and will get worst in the future). Men loose substantial amount of hard earned wealth after divorce. I have no sympathy for any man who get married in this day and age without strong Prenup and assurance. I don't know why there are still brain-dead men still want to get married. Why there are men who think" it wouldn't happen to me".
It would happen to you at anytime, thats the truth. When you go sky diving and instructer say you have 50% of survival, would you still jump, I know I wouldn't.

5) men are now able to have $x with plenty of women without any marriage. We don't have to follow the "real man" responsibilities on home anymore , we could call women sexist if they demand anything. If men are smart enough, we could use Feminism for our advantage. There are plenty more benefits with Feminism. It actually liberated men morethan it liberated women.
Being a family man is not glamourous anymore, its a thankless job and you will be portrayed as baffoon in medias, embrace the change and reap its benefits. Im happy with it anyway.

My professor (in MBA class) once told us , " be the change, before the change changes you" .
i) The companies that are able to adapt to changes during or just after a change in market will be able to survive in the market.
ii) The companies that are able to forsee changes in market and capitalize on it before it happens will be able expand its business and achieve great results
iii) The company that sticks to the old rules, onces that cannot change with time will go out of business.
Its a great lesson applicable in real life.

[Alyssa_11]

@tonymetal__86 you’re right lol but @jim_moriarty selectively traditional is a funny term to use. I don’t identify as anything I like what I like and I love accordingly. Would I do my career for free? Absolutely. Like I said, it helps with my mental health. It doesn’t matter what you think of me because I’m not your wife. Maybe you’ll find a wife with the same mindset as you who will make you a house husband :) more power to you.

[jim_moriarty]

@Alyssa_11 you like what you like because of your "female nature".
Men and women have different needs. Women look for someone they could depend on mentally, emotionally, psychically and financially. Men are not looking for any of these qualities. Our first priority is beauty and loyalty, second most important priority is femininity and submissiveness, like someone who would follow our lead , someone who could give us peace of mind instead of drama. Men don't look for protection in a woman , we don't want a woman who call herself an alpha women. If she financially independent good for her for being an adult, but thats not a quality that attracts any men.
"Oh man, look at her phd and career" said no man never. But for man, being masculine, career driven , being an achiever are all attractive qualities because of female hypergamy. Female hypergamous nature is the foundation of patriyarchy.

we don't need rich women to pay our bills.
To men, a woman with good career and women with no job are the same. Men have no problem with dating women with no job , but woman cannot imagine marrying to a guy without any job. Many women think men are intimidated by them when they make more money than us. Truth of the matter , we are repulsed by such women who have many masculine qualities, its really unattractive.
Women look up, men look down, thats how mating is done, if both looked up there would be no interaction.

There are plenty of women who stay in abusive relationship. They suffer years of abuse from chad with no problem. He would hit her , cheat on her with plenty of women, no problem. But once he gets into any financial trouble she will quickly get self love and self respect out of nowhere. Its a True story , a guy told me about his friend who stayed with her abusive boyfriend for 20 years till he start taking money from their savings, no woman can forgive that even if they forgive abuse and cheating. its common everywhere.

[jim_moriarty]

men are territorial in nature. We don't even love a used car the same way we love a new car. Used car has been part of another man's life, we feel like its not out. Men care about past of a woman, women care about future of a man. If you are a woman with more body count, no man will never take you seriously, just forget about real love and real relationship. Men will only use you if they think you are a h0. Women care about none of that , they would forget about a guys past if he has a bright future

Look at it this way , Are you willing to marry a man with no job and no education? Definitely no, no sane women would agree to that. But men have no problem with marrying an attractive but poor woman without any educational qualification from any third world countries.

Are you shallow for avoiding men who make less amount of money, or less confident , less dependable? No. We have our differences thats it.

But the problem is when we talk about our preference, its sexist, women could have their preference, no problem.

[Kabluie]

you could, if you have none yourself so you just swing in the direction life goes for both.

[Fireguy17]

nope, you at least should have a plan, and some ambition.

[exitseven]

I could date them but after a while would probably have to break up with them.

[linka_pat307]

All us have confused goals cuz life is strange, yeah I would

[KrakenAttackin]

Yeah, just nag the fuck out of him, that will work.

Maybe his goals are short-term by necessity, i. e. survival.

[TonyMetal___86]

Nope i can't because i'm searching for a real love and a serious relationship that leads to marriage...

[SurströmmingLover]

Yeah, people who live for the moment are also welcome. Of course, a balance between future goals and living for now should be encouraged.

[kitkills]

Fuck no. That's the biggest reason why I get tired of people.

[Andres77]

Nope.
Lack of ambition is actually a "I will dump you" offense.

[cookiecrusher]

Not a problem.
Sometimes people just like to have a time off. Everybody will get a goal at some point, something that they like doing.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

It's cool with me. I'm all about being happy and if someone desires to be happy with how they live their life I'm fine with it.

[motownplayer2000]

Yeah. But if I did make them I know I have no right to expect her to agree

[SAMI_DABBAB]

Although it would fit me and my planning, I'm generally not attracted to people with no ambition

[DownIndaDumpz2]

Yes because the past and future xodsnt exist

Only thing thG matters is now

[Meatunnel69]

Not unless she was super hot and super loyal and also didn't smoke or do drugs.

[Contra1166]

never! Ideally a relationship leads to all sides working towards the same goal (s) too.