Isn't comparing short guys to fat girls in dating scene an invalid argument?

[Anonymous]

I have seen that a lot of women prefer a guy to 6ft tall. And the women who support these arguments say that men also don't go with fat girls so it's the same. But actually it's not.

Let me explain you.
Being short is given by birth and it's an uncontrollable factor. Short guys should rather be compared with short girls. When you compare short guy with fat girls it's totally a different metrics.

Meanwhile being fat is mostly because of choice and I do agree some people have it hard for losing weight or gaining weight but it's at least controllable.

I believe fat girls should rather be compared with fat guys.

I think that height preference is the most shallow thing on this planet. It's like basically a stereotype that short guys are not masculine. And people justify this by comparing to fat girls. This argument is not even valid.

If a girl wants to be attractive she can just lose weight and boom! She is attractive.

Meanwhile a short guy is completely doomed no matter what. Even if he goes to gym and becomes like the most athletic guy, he'll still be unattractive because he is still short.

Society has made short guys inferior. And don't give the BS argument that we can't control who we are attracted to. It's shallow af to judge someone on their height.

[MCheetah]

Yeah, it is an invalid argument. Weight can not only be controlled, but many men (although not the majority) prefer thicker ladies. I'm one of the ones who do. But almost ALL straight women prefer a taller guy. While most of them would have their ideal/perfect guy being a bare minimum of six feet/183 cm tall, almost none of them would be comfortable with a guy who's shorter than them.

It's not 100% true that height is fully uncontrollable, though. Getting plenty of rest (8-10 hours daily) is what maximizes height growth during puberty. Yes, your parents give you a certain height range potential you're locked in, which is why it's rare for two short parents to produce tall children. But you can reach your maximum within that range potential by sleeping a lot, eating healthy, and doing plenty of cardio throughout the week. This is why student athletes end up growing so tall and lazy kids or kids who don't sleep, end up short.

And yes, for most people, being fat is a choice, but not all. For example, I have Hypothyroidism and have been doing martial arts for 11 years now. So I hate it when people just assume I'm a glutton when I only eat one meal a day, under 1400 calories. I also disagree that "only fat people should be with fat people." Some big girls, like Robyn Lawley or Ashley Graham, can also be really attractive.

But I do agree that being overweight is changeable, while being short is not. I'm short myself; I know DAMN WELL how much it eats at my soul that I'll never know love because I didn't reach that six foot one mark.

I also agree that height requirements are the most shallow thing in the world. I also agree that being athletic/fit means nothing if you're under six feet tall and not a multi-millionaire. Even Zac Ephron and Taylor Lautner get girls dogging them cause they're only 5'7". Tom Cruise got it a lot in the 90s as well.

Yeah, women can be shallow about this. And then blame YOU for being angry about THEIR shallowness, as if you're supposed to just be positive and happy about dying alone anyway. But like I said before in another post, it's best to just move on from pursuing women and to find happiness on your own. That's for the best, anyway.

[Anonymous]

Yes. But you'll never get women to admit this lol.
I mean really if you're a woman all you have to be is attractive.
If your a guy you have to be attractive, good hair, well dressed, muscular, tall, nice small, funny, smart, affluent, and then the intangibles such as timing, saying the right things at the right time etc.
But as I said while women are gigling to themselves right now reading this because they know I was dead accurate... again, you'll never get them to admit it. 😁

[Anonymous]

The ”bs argument” that you can’t control attraction is what it’s all about though and it’s an absolute fact. If you’re kot attracted to someone then you’re not. End of story. Imagine a person who has all the traits you find completely unattractive, you can’t just decide that now you’re attracted to them anyway. You are the one making bs arguments and you’re obviously bitter and butthurt. There are many women who don’t care about height but you’re still butthurt that some women do, vecause apparently everybody have to be into you. You’re just making yourself look pathetic and bitter, and that will for sure scare away more women than your height. And if you think it’s shallow is irrelevant. It doesn’t change the fact that they’re not attracted to you and they don’t want you. If they’re shallow for it then whatever. It shouldn’t matter to you and it’s non of your business. Focus on the women who actually are attracted to you.

[Asker]

Yes it's anyone's choice be with anyone but ruling out someone just because of height is BS and very shallow. Perhaps you are one of them who want a 6ft tall guy to feel the so called "protected and secure". It's shallow to reject someone on the basis of height which is an uncontrollable factor. Say whatever you want doesn't change the fact of you being shallow.

[Berethor]

She might be shallow but she no fool, uncontrollable factors are more meaningful.

tvtropes.org/.../NatureVersusNurture

[Asker]

Well, I'm opposing. It's shallow and that's it. Not everyone is gonna agree. You live your life I live mine. I'm good with my point of view. If people are still stuck in the stone age mentality I'm better without them

[metaldragon563]

No height does matter if you're a short guy. As a 5'4 man there's way more women that don't like my height than the other way around. I've liked women of different heights they didn't like mine. I feel like if I was in Asia it would be easier, but being a short guy in Europe or USA is brutal. More than half of the women that I come across are my height or taller. They obviously want taller guys lets not downplay this

[Berethor]

Yea women are going for tall genes, and much of that is biological.

tvtropes.org/.../LargeAndInCharge

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[MCheetah]

@Anonymous
Your argument that "many women don’t care about height" is a complete strawman, and I'm willing to bet money that despite all this shit you're talking, you wouldn't date a guy who's 5'2", or even just shorter than you.

I know who you are, anyway. You're that troll on here pretending to be female. It's doubtful you're a real woman with how trashy and crude you talk. You talk like a frat douche.

[JHAYES317]

Because it’s annoying that we can never be as attractive as someone like Chris Hemsworth or Henry Cavill due to our height

[lrina]

i think that both have similar chances to dating. very few decent options want/would be fine with a fat girl, and not too many options would want a short guy. i'd say i somewhat agree with this argument.

[JHAYES317]

They aren’t because fat girls can lose weight short guys can’t get taller

[metaldragon563]

Short men can't be considered equivalent of no woman of any type. Even fat women are attractive to certain men. Even ugly women might have men that are pursuing her. Short men are in a different category than everyone else. We are considered to be the "physically awkward" category. We have a trait that can't be controlled but a lot of women view us as physically awkward. Fat women can lose weight or if guys have a BBW fetish then they'll love obese girls. But as short guys we are unique in the way that we are different from everyone else in terms of attraction as literally every type of human being other than short guys is seen as physically attractive.

[Berethor]

Short girls don't considered unattractive, that's why short guys are compared to fat girls.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OneHeadTaller

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BeerGoggles

[Kaamraj]

The comparison is valid, sexual selection is highly amoral and doesn't care how you get there, as long as you get there. What I advice short men (including myself) to do is to compensate in other fields of their life such as social proof, socio-economics, etc. being short is a handicap but not death sentance.

[zagor]

I would say an otherwise fit, good-looking short guy has a better chance than a fat girl (I mean actually fat and not just a little pudgy) at finding someone, unless he's extremely short as in under 5'4.

[JuanVelasco4]

Discriminate women because of their age, the beauty of women is fleeting.

[JuanVelasco4]

I discriminate *

[Berethor]

A lot of men are doing that, good point.

tvtropes.org/.../MenGetOldWomenGetReplaced

[Asker]

I don't do that. Just because someone else is shallow doesn't mean I'll do the same in return. I stick with my morals.

[Dchrls78104]

It might be. You can change your weight, not your height.

[Anonymous]

Nothing worse then being a short guy with a small penis

[Anonymous]

Welcome to the messed up reality of dating scenes

[BarryLiverstone]

Reported

[Asker]

Why?

[BarryLiverstone]

You have asked this q before

[Asker]

What? I never asked this first of all. And even if I did ask, how does this thing look like something that should be reported?

[BarryLiverstone]

It’s a duplicate q

[Asker]

It's not. Anyways you report whatever you want it's not gonna go down.

[In_Trance]

yes it is