Do you believe in the concept of High Value Males?

Question

I see online things about being a high value man or hear men mention they are one or women referring to wanting a high value male. Naturally I wonder who actually believes in this concept?

Seinna · Accepted Answer

I do, though I also think men and women tend to disagree on what it means exactly.

Men seem to think it's mostly about physical attractiveness, money and status while women value other traits as well - faithfulness, potential to be a good partner and father, resourcefulness, strength (both mental and physical), character and integrity. Some of these traits are unfrotunately lacking in many men who straight out call women gold diggers and try to fool themselves and everyone else into thinking that is the sole reason they've been rejected. Also, when speaking of a single man on a dating scene, a high value man is not too old unless the woman isn't interested in having children. For me a man's value as a potential partner decreases as he turns 35 because every passing year he has less time to father healthy children and ultimately that's what I seek in a man. Yes, being financially stable and capable of supporting a family is required to be considered a high value but unlike what some men think, it's not the only thing that matters and for many women not even a deciding factor. A man who's playing around and using women is not high quality no matter how rich he is. Money is not the thing that defines the value of a person, however their ability to earn it regardless of circumstances is definitely a big factor for men. Good health is also a requirement to be high value.

Like it or not, people are not equal. You're worth the effort you put into yourself and into your life. If you chose to play games and work at McDonalds or Starbucks until you're 30 then your value as a partner is less than a man who has different priorities in his life. That being said, to me the concept of high or low value is strictly used for dating, meaning if a man is say 50 years old and I'm nowhere near that age then I don't view him as high or low value because it simply does not matter to me. Of course, there are also high and low value females though for women the things that make them more or less desirable as partners are different - age and physical attractiveness play a much more significant role.

WonderBell99 · Accepted Answer

The societal definition of "High Value" is different from mine. Having abs, making 6 figures or being 6ft is NOT a high value male. How does it define who he is as a person? He could have a personality worse than filth. I find it cringey whenever someone refers to themselves as a 'high value' person. What do they mean? Does it mean that they are "better" than everyone else? I find them to be pompous and conceited.

Personally, I look for mutual physical attraction, the ability to have scintillating conversations, trustworthiness, authenticity, hard working, kind, good sense of humor, mature and a good listener. I want someone I can count on when I'm feeling down. I want someone I can share my life with. I wouldn't revolve my life around them, and I certainly don't want my partner to do the same. I like travelling, so preferably someone who loves travelling as much as me. You know what's better than staying up until 2am with your partner and talking about the most random shit ever? Nothing. I want passion and comfort.

crossdressingrihno · Accepted Answer

I am not a man but speaking with something that I do have experience with I'm going to use the term high value women or women who are more how do we put this it's difficult cuz saying sexually attractive isn't the entirety of it cuz there's more to a woman's value than sexual attractiveness although that is a very important part
How about overall relationship value or ORV

A woman's ORV is based off of how attractive they are to other people within their age range as well as how their personality, demeanour, health and a general status is

A woman who is physically ugly but is very kind is still going to have a low ORV and thus will probably be less likely to gain a attractive or high ORV mail not impossible but unlikely

I don't believe people should be confined with dating people within their ORV I believe they should date whoever is willing to date them and who they are willing to date as long as they're not doing anything morally bankrupt like cheating on their wife or trying to slip something the woman's drink or whatever else

I do happen to believe in an ORV or overall relationship value because it is just a thing that exists we are naturally going to value one person as a partner over another person depending on certain qualities those qualities may change over time along with our cultures and science and stuff like that but the basic idea of this person hot and this person not is just going to exist until we stop needing have sex entirely and even then it's still probably going to stick around for a while longer unless we end up like the pandas which I really hope humanity does not end up like the pandas

TheSpaceGnome · Accepted Answer

What is considered high value is based personal preferences, same for 1-10, its too subjective to be a "league".

SecretsofKB · Answer

No I don't... this isn't some card or video game. People are people. Making more money doesn't make you "high value". Neither does being attractive or whatever else.

HighValue · Answer

Some people ARE higher value as a partner than others.

Being a more desired/preferred height, being strong, having an attractive face, being good with kids, being intelligent, being able to come up with successful solutions to problems, self discipline, having an acceptable past, having a respectable/good job, etc. all add value to someone.

The only people that deny those things add value to someone are the low value people that bring very little to a relationship/potential partner.
Examples of low value would be, short weak men, fat women or ones with an unacceptable past, (drug use for men or women, financial irresponsibility and large debt, bad with kids).
Different qualities DOES add to or take away from someone's value as a potential long partner.

People that don't believe it should go get a broken down used car from a junkyard to have for their primary vehicle. It is just as valuable as others right? How about eating food from a dumpster instead of clean food from a store or restaurant? It has the same value right? Only ignorant people, or people in denial due to their own low value try to claim that everyone has the same value.

Hanrej · Answer

It absolutely exist. In The sense that there are men who have more reasorces or influence, men who are more able than other men. Here's the problem though and it's true for women as well; they're very unlikley to actually do anything for you. Gaining that value and keeping it means they can't just flaunder it and so they usually have very high expectations on people they'd do anything for. Somtimes those expectations even exceed what they're willing to do in turn wich means that for all they've got you become one of their assets rather than the opposite.

So what do they do? Well, they display their wealth, inflate their importance, make people want THEM rather than go for who they want and when they have somone on the hook they'll be like "yeah I can give you a much easier life, you can live in better standards and I can offer it to you for a far less cost than you're currently spending on your living situation". They won't actually use those excact words but once you think that way yourself you're trapped.

So you agree and you let go of your own home, thinking you've made a great deal but you've just lost your independence put yourself under somone else. Sure you live better, sure it's cheaper but at somone elses mercy.
That's why there are certain laws to protect the interests of somone willing to relocate and become dependent, otherwise people just wouldn't do it.

Sun_Kim-Ai · Answer

More than "High Value Males" or "Females", I believe in "High Value People" - goodhearted, kind, morally strong, and determined.
In my opinion, people can be divided in three groups - tomatoes, apples, and grapes.
Tomatoes are red outside, and red inside - they are good people both within and without.
Apples are red outside, and white inside - they appear as good people and might be, but need counsel, kindness and understanding to stay on the right path and live well.
Grapes, on the other hand, are irrecuperable and sour. You can do nothing with them and if you are not careful, they'll grow and spoil the bunch.

Lliam · Answer

Of course.

I suppose some characteristics a high value male would being masculine, gentlemanly, bright, motivated, hard working, energetic, capable, kind, compassionate, understanding, generous, honest, loyal, protective, authentic (not affected), communicative, fun loving, funny, ... stuff like that.

Notice that I didn't mention height, 6 pack abs or six figure incomes because, although those things might be a bonus, they aren't what it takes to get a high value woman unless one's definition of a high value woman is a materialistic, beauty queen, gold digger.

ohshee · Answer

No I bust up laughing avesta clapping wouldn't guys tell me that there are an alpha male I cannot stop laughing when they say that for me I'm just who I am I can tell you all the great things about me and I can tell you all the bad things about me and they both counterbalance each other I would never tell anybody that I was a high-value male never ever you would find out if something drastic happen are natural disaster or something where it was an emergency of some sort or even playing baseball Sports building something I am who I am and I don't want to be anybody else but high value never

SimpleGuy95 · Answer

Yes because so guys are working harder to prepare for dating or are working harder to reach their dreams than other guys.
Some guys know what they want and they don´t waste their time and life on stuff that seems interesting at first but has no benefit for their lifes.
That doesn´t mean that other people don´t have value because everybody has value in themselves but there are people that have a higher value for something specific like for a relationship or an advanced position in a company.
So I think the whole idea depends on a certain incedent they don´t have high value in general plus it´s nothing that one could say himself.
It´s an attribute others give you.

Anonymous · Answer

I don’t think High Value Males Exist.

The fat and ugly ones , the so called “nice guys”. Are unbelievably UNATTRACTIVE.

The hot Brad Pitts , Chads, the Hotties. Are wanted by all the “H03S” and usually have hella STDs, and even have children most of the time. So that’s also a NO-GO!

Then you have the SuperRich guys who either buy women with their riches and buy sex. Or they are Rich and Hot and have it all and don’t need nobody.

there's no winning.
Women on the other hand can get majority of men no matter how ugly or fat they are.

itsalyssaagain · Answer

I definitely believe in the concept of a high value male!!!

When you date around and meet new people, there are men who will respect your values, be clear on what they want out of this relationship and treat you with respect. That is a high value male.

There are also men who will never say what they want out of you and stumble when you ask them; they will not respect your boundaries and their actions will not match their words. They are men with no value.

The secret to a healthy relationship is filtering out the rubbish men and dating men with high value. It goes beyond just money and looks. It's the way they carry themselves.

Lookingforthetruth · Answer

Tinder/ok cupid studies both support it. Women view 80% of males as being physically unattractive. Many guys in the 80% have to compensate with status and money (hence why 69% of men still pay for meals with women to get them to continue dating them).

So yes. There are high value men. Some of these men are valued for their physical looks and don't need to compensate on wealth/status.

See for example, Jeremy meeks who was a common criminal when he became media famous and yet had tons of women throwing themselves at him for sex/relationships.

Other men need to bump up their status/money to very high levels (top 20% of males) to be considered high value.

Also whether your value of being high value often depends on geographic location. A man who is 6'2" and fairly good shape in America may not stand out as much in say Germany where the men are 5'10".

zyxacb · Answer

A popular vs. high quality anything are 2 different things - broccoli is high value, but far less popular than heroin, which isn't high in quality (i. e. provides meaningful benefit to one's life) - people often choose not what's high quality, but most popular (usually emotionally stimulating) - if you're concerned, think of TokTok - far from the most useful use of time, but far less people will be watching lectures online to educate themselves.

I believe in the concept, but don't care, as much of society now turns out obese, addicted to (controlled by) food & technology... I don't envy the misery that I know few but myself who can be content to sit by water for 3 hours with my own thoughts... to me that's a high value male (confident, happy, etc.) - not one who measures value in external gratification.

TheUniqueOne96 · Answer

I think high value is up for interpretation, like what's high value to one, isn't always going to be to another.

Personally, I do believe it exists in dating, in the sense that it's to do with desirability, like if you're a guy that most women want to be with, then that makes you high value in the dating sense.

Subarugirl · Answer

labeling someone as "high value" is just way of dehumanizing and objectifying people. Some people add value to your life others don't, but everyone has the same inherent value. To argue otherwise is to argue that some people are less than human, which is the same argument that was made for slavery and the holocaust.

hi_it_is_me123 · Answer

Do I want a highvalue man, if I prefere a tall nice virgin or man with low bodycount who is not a sex worker? I dont understand my obsession with tall and virgin men. I am very jealous of people who dont care about looks. Maybe it is because all my male cousins are tall or majority of men in my surroundings are tall? I swear i dont understand and I really hate my shallowness

front2back · Answer

It's only a foreign "concept" these days due to embracing mediocrity, laziness, and easy sex.

Men have always worked towards bettering themselves and the world around them, scolding those who didn't contribute. Now it's the opposite and the guy trying to read more books for knowledge or being driven seems like a cult member.

Creampiekarl420 · Answer

People who think there is no such are losers who say the prize isn’t all that great because they couldn’t grasp it “yea you got the gold medal but that doesn’t make you the best” it literally fucking does we all are doing the same thing but I have much better results that makes me high value

DWornock · Answer

Just as their are differences in the value of diamonds, horses, and art, obviously there are wide range of differences and abilities and therefore value of men. Girls and women value men that are tall, good looking, smart, and very athletic over men that deformed, short, retarded, blind and crippled. I find it hard to imagine that any intelligent person would claim otherwise.

Uptowngirl88 · Answer

You don't know what a high value man is so why even discuss this topic. You literally said in your update that there is nothing positive about a high value man which is 100% incorrect. Stick to what you know

RationalMale · Answer

Yes. Simple example:

Low value male: has a cruddy minimum wage job, high school diploma, no savings, shitty car, few social skills or future prospects.

High value male: has a good job, promising career path, educated, financially smart, good future prospects.

GrantArmstrong · Answer

Different people value different things. There is no universal ranking of priorities, or even anything close to one. This is also why there are no leagues. My wife and I used to watch a reality show called undateables and it was lovely because they took these people with *severe* issues and found someone for them. And not just someone with equally bad issues to settle for them, but like a nice normal person who just wasn't bothered by their flaws and was into them.

Anonymous · Answer

A lot of people interpret it differently. But the concept comes from dating statistics among the wealthy elite in large cities. A “high value man” would not necessarily be the right man for people out of that environment. Since it typically refers to wealth and power and those men are usually not monogamous.

MCheetah · Answer

Yes, it's a thing in society. However, it's highly subjective. One person could think wealth makes a man "high value," while another could say character, discipline, and integrity, makes a man "high value."

Bubbles45 · Answer

I don't believe in it personally, but I'm sure there's people out there who put themselves on a pedestal and think they would be considered high value, possibly.. sounds like something someone has bound to have done at some point.

CallmeTheKnight · Answer

Just another way of saying Alpha male. Both of which are just used to highlight shallowness and insecurities in people

NamerOfStars · Answer

Nothing but derogatory claptrap, from the same people- or at least the same mindsets- that brought you eugenics.

UniquelyBasic · Answer

I think people have their own definition for what they see as high value. Some see having tons of money as being high value maybe its looks or its personality.

Anonymous · Answer

I don't like these terms. What kind of values are we talking about? A lot of people might think of different things when they hear "high value", so it's pointless in my opinion.

I don't believe or like leagues when it comes to dating at all.

Anonymous · Answer

High value man... pfft. aren't they those big babies, who want a mommy v2 type of girlfriend who is basically nothing more than an obedient housemaid?

there is one thing i learned from most women and its that big money and dick doesn't make a man "high value".

High value means what? is it high net worth? Chains and jewels? Personal values and beliefs? There are gaps in this definition or it has a big enough ambiguity.

DonkeyDan · Answer

There is no such thing as high value anyone, male or female. Anyone that thinks you can put a value on a person's worth is a moron.

Intothevoid666 · Answer

Women collectively agree that some men are more attractive than others yes this a fact otherwise beauty standards wouldn’t exist. Male models tend to all have certain traits this is a fact. It’s a joke that we’re even discussing it quite frankly

Alcoholic_Wannabe · Answer

It's crap.. just like the concept of a high value woman is crap. You're better off focusing on figuring out what kind of man/woman you're compatible with and then playing the numbers game from there.

lofii · Answer

High value males exist, High value women exist
Everything from money to personality goes into how much a person is valued to another depending on dating standards.

There are some people who do settle for mediocre partners that have nothing to offer. Those are the people who don't believe in the system.

NathanDavis · Answer

only an idiot would believe these things... as they go about it

Adam1978 · Answer

Well yes but it's not set by men but by women and it might differ between women what that is. Same as high value woman isn't defined by what men wants, not what women think. So I can be high value for some but unfit for others.

Anonymous · Answer

Unless you believe all men are equally attractive to date, then you too believe in the concept of High Value Males. So, uh. . . yeah.

LovingLoverReturned · Answer

Of course. I don't value drug addicts, abusers or the like

genericname85 · Answer

of course. because otherwise you'd have to give litterally every male on the planet the same chance to date you. same goes for women.

OpenClose · Answer

Reminds me of "Alpha male", though at least that term is starting to turn into "meathead".

ArtemisSilver · Answer

Yea but the right woman can propel a middle performer to great success. Unfortunately having a bad partner can do the opposite.

Shamalien · Answer

What kind of moron wouldn’t believe in it? What even is this? Yes of course a man with a 6 figure income is more valuable than a fking chodestain gamer in his mom’s basement

OddBeMe · Answer

Ehh, I looked up the traits and they’re meaningless cliches. Success, confident, assertive and masculine; funny, likeable, caring, intelligent, loyal. Could you be more vague?

Dargil · Answer

I'm not much on one myself, but I believe in the concept.

zagor · Answer

I don't think it is a specific thing, just a reference to men who are capable of supporting a family.

Browneye57 · Answer

This level of confusion is astounding.
If you don't choose a high-value man for your mate you'll be sorry. I guarantee it.
A woman would have to be insane for choosing a loser, or a girlie-man, a momma's boy.

MatteBlaxk · Answer

Of course. One has different levels in life. Different people, different standards. You know. Same goes with women.

Anonymous · Answer

No. The west is just extremely shallow and ignorant.

VV3ZZY · Answer

No, I think Value is just a made up word. Tiny Ants on a rock in space. Nothing matters. The end.

AlwaysBelieving · Answer

I did before. Not now. More labels. Makes me want to throw up.

RandomGuy1030 · Answer

Is this a joke. Ok here's a REAL world example. The reason Putin isn't on the front lines is... why? Guess.

Chthou95 · Answer

Oh very much. You're high value men are the top 20% of men. The rest are in the bottom 80%. Very real

Anonymous · Answer

Well there's no question there are certain men and women who are more valuable to and sought after by the opposite sex.

Dat-Alpha-Lion · Answer

Don’t go to r/FemaleDatingStrategy. Please. Just treat men like you’d treat your other friends.

Anonymous · Answer

Of course but it's not a set rule everybody has different definition of value. We might see a murderer with tattoos and cigarettes low value, but there will be a few women who think that's high value

This_Is_My_Opinion8 · Answer

How funny that most women don't. And the one that do don't have the same definition that guys do.

Anonymous · Answer

Nah, it’s something that the Female Incel group “female dating strategy” on Reddit came up with to justify their sexism and double standards

Slim57 · Answer

Yeah but women don't see the difference between them and douchebags 😂

dolemite89 · Answer

yes, if you don’t think rich, handsome guys have a better chance with pretty women than your’re either lying or very naive.

Anonymous · Answer

I laugh at the concept of alpha male and QUEEN  both are stupid

exitseven · Answer

No, I hate this term. Everyone has value.

KatherineJ · Answer

My question on that is “who gets to define it?”

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