I may be mistaken. So I am inherently a good person so I am nice to women I date but end up getting taken advantage of. I came to a conclusion that you have to talk down on women and be an asshole to let her know you have value. It is complicated to explain why this works but if you talk to her shoulder to shoulder and look up at her then she won’t see you as dominant. However, if you talk down on her then she will see you as dominant and that’s what girls are into so you have to be a little bit mean and not a total asshole but I think I figured out the guy I want to be. I tried to be the nice guy and it just didn’t workout for me so I am done being the nice guy.
(Nice guy turns into bad guy) Why should I continue being a nice guy if nice guys just get walked all over? Am I mistaken?
Our societies in the West are very much uncultured. In more cultured societies, bad people are more outcasted socially and good people are more encouraged and empowered. It is not that being good is weak. It is not. It is actually strength and very much of it. It is just that in uncultured societies there is no such a thing as social justice. Noone cares unless a violent crime has taken place. The women of today think that "Bad Boys" are stronger. The truth is they are weaker and way weaker. They are soulless and degraded. They have sold their soul to the devil. Power over others is weakness disguised as strength. People from more cultured societies know this. Being a bad boy is much easier than being a good person. The way our social situations are structured, doing the wrong things lead to empowerment. In high schools the narcisstic bullies are the popular guys. And for some reason I can never figure out women seem to have some very toxic attraction to these backwards people. Perhpas they see them as dominant. I don't know. a lot of women have rape fantasies. I think it is mass mental illness. If we lived in a society that empowered good people to stand up to the bs, more good men would and women would find the good men more dominant. The way things are today, specially in the West, for a person to do the right thing it feels like they have to go against the whole world. But for a bad person to do the wrong thing, it is as if society supports them, won't punish them and women are even attracted. There is intensive for it. With regards to your situation, you are born alone, you die alone and all you really have is your own soul. Do you want to sell your soul for more respect in an inherrintly backwards society? Don't be as such as people can take advantage of you neither. If needed disown most people. But be true to yourself. Perhaps workout and take some martial arts classes. Seek meditation and healing and self improvement. Do what is right for you. Don't turn into a demon because a lot of people are doing it. These people have no lives and will never get anywhere and will be in unbearable regret when they are on their dying bed. They wasted their whole life. I am not religous but I have heard that Jesus says, "They gain the world and lose their soul". When they truly realize they have lost their soul, that is your retribution. And they will. It is better to be alone by yourself, than be amongst people who think kindness and goodness is weakness. Things you must aspire to be is looked as weakness. These people don't know what they are talking about. Don't let the psychopaths fool you. Be a better more careful judge of character and trust your instincts. Women who give you a bad vibe, don't go around them, let alone be in a relationship with them. There are still lots of good people in the world, they are just not loud and in clubs doing drugs. You are going to the wrong places. When I was young, I was alittle bit of a bully, I was alittle bit of a criminal, and I drank a lot, smoked a lot, smoked weed a lot, did some drugs. Girls were all over me. But as I became older and conciously became a better person, slowly friends disappeard, girls got less. It was truly shocking to me. Second part of this I am writing in next message. There is limt to the number of words.
Until I realized we live in a very backwards toxic world. Be true to yourself my man, even if the whole world is against you. Ignore, disown, move on. You know in your heart what is right and what is wrong. Just because everybody is doing the wrong things doesn't make it right. Heal your wounds, empower yourself and you will stand like a mountain. Most of these girls that are attracted to those guys don't end up having good lives. a lot of them are single when they are old. And a lot of them regret their whole life and realize that the shaky shy guy who they friendzoned was the kind of guy who would stand by them till they are 90. But they chose the rich toxic guy and now they are used and abused and broken and noone truly wants them or will properly love them. My main point to you is, prioritize yourself and your own wellbeing. If you do meditation and are alittle sensitive to energy, you will see, these people are full of garbage toxic energy. They are not well inside at all. They are damaging to themselves and everyone. Most of all, they are fast sleep, unconious people.
You shouldn't. You don't have to be a "Bad Boy" either. Just unapologetically be you, regardless of what people think. Don't fake anything for anyone. It's SO much more liberating when you don't have to keep BS'ing to impress people who'd never like you, nor matter how golden your personality was.
One thing I will tell you about women: Most of them (who aren't gay) will want the SAME exact f*ckin' type of man: Over six feet tall, chiseled jawline, abs, broad shoulders, athlete's body, between 25 and 40, etc. While men have a huge variety of women they go for and there's pretty much a type of female body for all straight men on Earth, the same does NOT apply towards women!
Most women end up settling with someone they don't love, but don't outright hate, either. Someone who can simp and kiss their ass just enough to last 10 or 20 years or so. Once you've talked to enough women, you start to realize just how little personality actually matters. How do you think some of the worst men on Earth still get women? Yes, it's easy to point to them being "bad boys" as the case. But the truth is, they just don't treat women as important. They, ironically, treat women the same way so many women treat men: As a commodity. As someone to use and get things from.
I'm not trying to drop a full bottle of Red Pills on you. I just have enough life experience and wisdom to know what 20 year old me did not. The simple fact that MOST women are not worth the bullsh*t they come with. No amount of sex in the world is worth that. Just look at Johnny Depp; MF'er was a multimillionaire and he's still being f*cked over by Elon Musk's ex.
Another ironic thing is, I'm probably one of the most romantic men out there. I'd give me heart and soul for the right woman. I'm just smart enough now to know that woman is a pure fantasy. The type of woman I'd do that for doesn't exist and real people are covered in too much sh*t and piss for me to get my hands dirty.
The sooner you realize most people suck (men and women, but I'm assuming you're not gay) and the more you talk to men who got divorced, the more you'll learn to be grateful to be single, rather than being with the wrong one. (Most women are the "wrong one." Like 98% of 'em.)
"One thing I will tell you about women: Most of them (who aren't gay) will want the SAME exact f*ckin' type of man: Over six feet tall, chiseled jawline, abs, broad shoulders, athlete's body, between 25 and 40, etc. While men have a huge variety of women they go for and there's pretty much a type of female body for all straight men on Earth, the same does NOT apply towards women!"
No thanks. Serial killer documentaries and movies sort of taught me to be careful around overly handsome men of any race. Like if I was a CEO or something then I would be relaxed because I'll see these type of men all the time; but I'm just your average Jane so having a guy of that status and flawless appearance randomly come up to me like, "Want to got for a ride on my Yacht," makes me feel like I'm about to be trafficked or murdered for my organs.
However, I know what you mean by many women wanting the fairytale prince to be everything they ever wanted; life just doesn't work that way. Perfection is a fantasy, there's no man out there without flaws.
@mcheetah You're spot on in my opinion. I've been w/ a ton of women in my life I'm a 6'2 former athlete over 40 still w/ my abs and w/ money. I've never had a problem getting a woman partly because I just treat them like a disposable commodity, and keep an abundance mentality. Only thing I disagree w/ is that most women dont settle for the simp it's probably 33/33/33 between the simp the high value guy that cheats and someone basic.
Asker I recommend you read Corey Wayne’s “how to be a 3% man”. He gives good advice on things “nice guys” do to turn women off but he doesn’t say turning into an asshole.
As a former “nice guy” myself I know EXACTLY how you feel. It sucks. Especially at your age. But truth be told you will never be able to completely transform your personality unless you get Brian damage or PTSD from a very serious combat situation (military conflict). And you don’t want that to happen. Trust me.
@EmyyWolf Not sure why you felt the need to tag me I've spent a lifetime banging chicks. Rule number 1 never take relationship advice from women as you just proved they do not listen or comprehend very well.
——- ASKER: Any man that tells you they bang chics. They don’t do that shit. No hot, tough, fearless man gonna say they “BANG CHICS”. They don’t haveeeee to say it. Trust me… 😑
Not everyone is hot, some people can't just turn hot in a few seconds. Unlike women, guys don't have something like makeup to put a fake mask on of how they look like.
@EmyyWolf steroids are terrible for you, horrible for your body. It would be as damaging as taking heroine. Sure it bulks you up faster but eventually the guys dick stops working, can't grow facial hair, and some even go bald. It's just all around terrible for you
@EmyyWolf That's just something you need to tell yourself to help justify your narrow belief. It's easier to tell your self that then actually provide any substance to the conversation.
@Vegasrunner Dude.. I’m trying to help him. You’re a simp and full of 💩. I never met no Alpha guy that was using the internet this much… they don’t tend to be on their phone… unlike women fags and simps.
They take advantage of you because they know you are good. Which is not your fault, it's good that you have a good heart. I've had similar experience in my earlier years and it taught me to have clearer visvision.
Western women love good men if they can get something from you and still look at you as a chump at the same time. Meanwhile their unclean hearts want men they see as more masculine with aggression and knacks for outsmarting, disrespecting, or abusing others - the women included.
I am not going to tell you to go the route of being this way to attract women, because if you do ultimately you will be unhappy when you get one, because her heart isn't really good and she's only attracted to you for being one of these bad "alphas." You're only doing something to attract a woman who won't like or love you for who you really are.
Same for men, there are no excuses for shit-tier women who take advantage of others; I'm sorry you had to endure whatever BS you had to go through.
My advice is lower your expectations on appearances, set clear boundaries for no one to cross, become more assertive, and focus on core values you have and want in a future partner. Work on yourself, and develop healthy habits. If you're healthy body (exercise, eat right, etc) and mind (therapy, medication if needed), you can get a girl who may not be a boss bitch and have that bad bitch look, but instead has a lot of room for improvement (willingness to exercise with you without being forced, etc) and already has the personality/compassion/empathy/patience/love to be a great partner/parent. Even though this is unpopular to say, women gravitate to men who can lead and set a good example through compassion/honest with that bit of male assertiveness that can command a room, we want to be lead.
Much like how some men take a good woman for granted, us being attracted to bad boys is our immaturity showing its ass. When you see that shit, walk away, we'll learn our lesson when we're 40 and still single with or without children.
Excellent feedback @skycastle90 especially about the “drawing the line and walking away” part. I had to learn to do that later in life. It’s about taking the power back.
I don’t want to throw all women under the bus because some like yourself realize the bs that’s going on in society. Women are self sabotaging themselves with this modern feminist bs. They think that taking advantage of men shows they are “strong”. They might enjoy some short term benefits but in the long run they will realize the huge mistakes they made.
With that said it’s good for men to be gentlemen to women who deserve it. But honestly boys and young men are extremely confused nowadays on what it is to “be a man”. It’s not easy for them and society doesn’t help. They need coaching.
It's such a vicious cycle. You got women having babies to save relationships and men who walk away from the woman, but sadly from their child as well. There are good single mothers out there, I've met one once; but then you have majority of single moms who live in doubt, anger and fear that are raising children who are growing up confused and guilty for just being alive or even worse, punished for their gender depending on who the mother hates the most, the father or herself.
As for women who was raised by your stereotypical angry single mom I can definitely say our single mothers feed us the highest dose of poison because we are neither taught how to even talk to men nor understand them, instead we are taught to use them and to view them as gullible, sex-driven subordinates. What saved me is that I grew up around my grandmother who is a dedicated wife to the same man since she was 19 or younger, so she taught me all she could until it got a bit too dated.
As for men, I see my male family members cheating, divorcing, and remarrying; they're lost and picking women who act like their destructive single mom, so I agree with you 100%.
@skycastle90 the 60s sex revolution really screwed a lot of this up. It was supposed to be “liberating” for women to make choices on who to sleep with whether they are married or not. This in turn led to what you described above which in turn led to hordes of confused and angry “nice guys”. Most of these guys would of been happily married in a different time era.
Anyway I’m glad you got this perspective. But honestly it’s tough very tough for most single well meaning guys out there nowadays. I’ve been raked over the coals when I was younger because of this bs. I did go through a “man whore” don’t give a shit phase in my late 20s and early 30s. There are drawbacks to that as well. But really from a man’s POV there is really nothing worse than treating a woman with respect just to have her reject you (usually by friéndzone) because in her mind your boring and lack challenge.
One of the best things in life was discovering the red pill. It is after I indulged in it that I started to find meaningful relationship free of toxicity like the one I'm in now.
If it wasn't for my grandmother showing me what it means to be a true wife and mother, I probably would have went through a whore phase too and popped a few babies out, but instead my fiancé is my first and only. I'm not his first though, which is alright I never expected to be lol.
@skycastle90 motherhood is severely under rated. Yeah you would of likely slept around and chased “bad boys” thinking you would get some romance novel fantasy form to fruition (meanwhile ignoring many good guy opportunities)
The problem is these so called women we being told to “follow their heart” only to indulge their debase inclinations and wind up heartbroken. But its their own god damn fault. Meanwhile good guys get burned and bad boys get rewarded. Hence the vicious cycle that makes originally genuine guys like the QA and myself feel pressured to “learn the game”. In the end everybody loses but again I do confidently blame radical feminism for screwing this all up from the start.
Most guys are well intentioned. We may feel impulses to be promiscuous but really we too yearn for a meaningful relationship, marriage and fatherhood. None of those are intended to “control” women like feminists claim.
I get the whole bad guy thing, its weird why women are so into that. But in the end, the bad guy thing doesn't really have any value. When you are a nice guy, women look down on you as they think of themselves of the upper factor of the relationship which is not many like, some do but not many. On the other hand, when you are a bad guy, you become the upper factor of the relationship by being mean and talking down to her but in the long term, that doesn't work out because the bad guy charm then turns into something they don't want because they can't see a future in it. Being a bad guy is only a short term thing because it makes women feel more alive or something similar but then the feeling dies out and they want what the nice guy could have given them. I know, complicated as hell. So the best thing to do is be neither of the both. Don't be a nice guy or a bad guy, when you meet a person, be a gentleman but you need to show them that you are like this out of courtesy and good behaviour for yourself. You are not a gentleman for them or any other person at all, you are a gentleman for yourself.
It was said, "Be a King for yourself first and many will follow later". Be nice to people in general and not with just women but also be brutally honest about your opinion if someone needs to hear it. Bring factors from both a nice guy and a bad guy, but never completely become one or the other.
We've all been there at some point in our lives. The point is, you should not remain a nice guy. The whole point is that you become the 'bad boy'. Because like you've pointed out, that's what women are attracted to. They can deny it as much as they want in order to save face, but the truth is, they don't want the nice guy. They want that dominant man who is emotionally stable and even shows stoicism. We've heard women cry about "toxic masculinity" around. Yet funny enough, they themselves are attracted to some of these "toxic masculinity" traits. They want the guy who doesn't give a rat's ass about them and who isn't scared to drop them in a heartbeat.
In the end, life is all about adaptation. It's all about survival of the fittest. If you want to achieve things, you have to adapt in order to get it. And women want bad boys, so go and become the bad boy. And as someone who is considered to be a 'bad boy' myself by many others, I can tell you that the only time I had dealt with most heartache, confusion and headaches was the time when I was being the nice guy.
Every guy and girl at some point gets taken advantage of or feels taken advantage of at some point in the dating process. At the end of the day you just have to stay true to yourself and take every experience and opportunity to hone your dating skills to get better at it. In the process make the changes you need to make to become the best version of yourself possible.
So yes I think you are mistaken, but everyone changes over time no matter what it is... nothing ever stays the same. But its not about being bad or good. Its about doing the right thing and being honest with people... some people will respond to it in positive way or bad way. But that does not make you good or bad... its just knowing what you want and going after it... and being honest with yourself and with the other person.
With some people they just make themselves door mats and they never figure out why that is. In the end its always about the choice they made... so I hope you can figure out the point I am making here and start making better choices.
They're probably enjoying that you're taking a more dominant role, not any concept of "good" or "bad". I mean, if that's the dynamic you want in a relationship, then go for it, but it is a lot of work being completely dominant. You're in charge of decisions for two people, entertainment, reading their mood and directing it.
I went that direction for a while because it's enjoyable when playing around to mold women to what you want, but it gets old fast. Aside from them throwing hissy fits and tantrums, you become the only source of meaningful input in the relationship, which can be boring as hell.
Figure the type of partner you want to be, the type of partner you want, how realistic that is to achieve, and how you would go about achieving that dynamic. Be yourself, and if other women take advantage of that, cast them aside until you find someone who will work with you.
Ultimately if you act as a character who you are not, eventually you will be in a relationship, and need to maintain that character. That's a headache and a half compared to maintaining the character of you, even if getting to the starting line is more difficult. If it's a.1% chance, that just means you have to throw yourself out there thousands of times. It sounds like a lot, but you'll find if you go out and just do it, you can throw yourself out there hundreds of times in a week. If you burn out one area, drive to a college.
I am afraid this is just a sterotypical trend of this day and age. Not thats its any more new than it was twenty years ago. there's nothing wrong with be a nice person but you have to understand at the same time that not every woman on this planet is going to be attracted to that just like there are woman who are not attracted to mean guys. I am a genuine kind soul and because of that I have been walked and trampled over in my life, but reguardless of that I have not let that define who I am or who I need to be. Letting other people decide who you are is no better than just getting trampled over. Its merely exchanging one misery for another. You can't be something your not, and if your truly are a kind individual than turning into an asshole won't work, it may get you some tail but it will get you no closer to anything worth having.
So your done being the nice guy, thats your choice, but your only letting yourself get used all over again in a different manner. Your still being taken an advantage of and that won't change no matter what persona you take on. Embrace who you are, accept that person for who they are, do this instead of trying to change. There are over 6 billion people in the world and I am 110% positive that you have barely meant 0000000.1% of them.
Be a good person for yourself and not for others or for what you believe you can get from others for being kind. Know it is okay to say no when people try and take advangage. The people with respect will be there afterward and the users will leave quickly.
Being a "good person" is literally the minimum effort. In fact, being "good" shouldn't even be an effort for you, that's how basic it is.
If treating women with respect and goodwill, without expectation of anything but respect and goodwill in turn (not sex, just being treated like a human), is too much effort for you - it's no wonder no one wants to date you.
Being nice isn't a substitute for a personality or a life someone would want to be part of.
It’s more complicated than that. Women claim that nice guys are boring and lack personality. Some of them actually have very interesting lives and backgrounds but were raised to be chivalrous to women. Modern feminism has made such behavior come off as “weakness” and a so called “strong woman” is in her right to take advantage of that as way to fight “patriarchy”. Like she’s entitled to be a pos or something.
Yes this guy had things to work on. But it’s not that simple given our environment. @skycastle90 had some good insights.
@globetrotter22 Women today create any reason or excuse to harp on men who are decent or "nice," even when men are not even proclaiming themselves to be nice.
Anyone can be boring and may need to add spice to their lives or activities, even a badass. But these women who are harping on good or "nice" men will still do it even if the men have great things about them and aren't uninteresting, because deep down these women simply do not like that he is decent or upright. They are attracted to darkness and men with bad behavior, rudeness, risky lifestyles, etc. because that is what they like, plain and simple. A dark heart wants dark things.
@ManOnFire abusive behavior in men also validates female insecurities.
We got to remind ourselves that a lot of shitty dating decisions is unforturnately instinctive for women. Subconsciously thanks to evolution this is what turns them on.
However men have shitty impulses as well (promiscuity, violence, etc) but we have slapped hard on this for the last few decades. Most of us have listened and responded. We are adaptable. We can own up to being wrong. But why can’t women own up to their shitty behavior? Some can. But most won’t.
If you think being good is minimum effort, you know nothing about men or life or love. It is the very opposite. Being good takes tremendous almost out of worldly strength. Specially in today's world.
You are probably a nice guy, if you look like this:
He has to nice or I won't give him the time of the day. However, if you look like that, I don't want you. Instead, I want the star soccer player. He's hot.
If you are not hot, you can’t get a girl by being a bad boy. Bad boys don't get girls because they are bad boys, but they can get girls if they are hot. What girls really want is a hot guy that will treat them like the foregoing nice guy would. The problem is, every girl wants the star soccer player so he doesn't have to be nice.
@mantelk Just telling it like it is. It's not my fault if you reject good advice and believe, if you pray to God, chant, or make a wish, you fantasy will come true.
I dont have to be nice. its how i choose to be. u think everything men do is for women? you are not as important as you think you are. men have lives of their own
@yofuknutz Young girls used to imagine a guy that will lift them up and make intense love to them and happily ever after. Nowadays they wanna get railed hard, borderline abused lol. Wtf happened?
Probably programming them just thinking like that with all the TV and Netflix and smartphones it makes you wonder if all program to turn us into monsters
You are either dating the wrong women or you have the wrong about what it means to be nice. Nice does not mean having no boundaries or fawning over a woman in the hope that will get you into her bed.
"end up getting taken advantage of..." That has nothing to do with being nice. If this is happening repeatedly, it's not because you are nice. It's because you have poor boundaries and invest too much in a relationship too soon. This will make you attractive to women who are happy to take advantage of weak men, and turn off women looking for emotional maturity.
And you act like an A—HOLE… and you treat people “women” poorly….. Ain’t nobody gonna want to F—K you! All you’re gonna do it get jailed!
__________________ They call them “BAD BOYS” not because they’re “evil”. That’s just a metaphor.
The hot guys tend to be narcissistic and full of themselves because women spoil them. All the women WANT them, therefore these women spread their legs and spoil these men like you’d never know! That makes those men feel privileged and entitled. But their looks back them up. They KNOW they got the looks.
That’s why women go for the so-called “BADDDD” boy. A. K. A the “HOT ENTITLED BOY”.
I don't think you know what a narcissist is. It's a mental health condition. They are abusive psychopaths. The type of guys you are referring to aren't bad boys. They are just attractive guys. They are normally good people
@SeanshterMonster@mantelk I’m saying that the attractive ones tend to be more entitled. That’s why they call them the “BAD BOYS”. Because of their looks they feel they have more options, than if they weren’t BRAD PITTS. and truly they do….
It’s not about being “EVIL AND VILE” and treating women like SH—T. That gets you nothing, it don’t gain you any respect. That’s not being red-pilled at all. You’re delusional if you think you’re gonna get women by treating them poorly whilst you look like this:
@SeanshterMonster Stop calling it “BADDD” guys. It’s only gonna confuse you. That terminology is wrong.
It’s the TOUGH guys. Yes.. women tend to go for the TOUGH ANGRY guy yes. I’ve seen it happen time and time again. I saw a young woman cheat on her husband (baby daddy) of her two kids. With a literal BRAD PITT at my job, that I also had a crush on. They F—KED each-other easy peasy. Just like that!
Girl looked like this:
Literally got D—KED by BRAD PITT within a month from meeting him. And she was married. CHAD wasn’t rich or anything, he just had the guns and the looks.
I’m telling you. It’s all about the looks. You have to get on steroids any get some gains going.
But to call it “BEING BADDD” is wrong and confusing. Spread the word and help your bros out.
Yes. Help people by making yhem ruin themselfs eith steroids. You can't fill the lonley empty hole in your heart with meaningless sex. Looks are important, but having your own life and hobbies and caring about the people around you is more important. Yes, there are bad guys. Guys who are dicks, guys who manipulate.
Again, bad boys are usually more criminal minded, they are more narcissistic, they are usually bullies or drug dealers. What you refer to are just good looking guys. Maybe alittle arrogant that's it.
@mantelk I said to do both. Go to gym , become buff and tough. And healthy steroids can help you. But you have to take the healthy kind. DO YOUR RESEARCH
I don't think any healthy person would damage their body with steroids just to fuck a few whores. The kinda girls I like don't care way too much about these things. I have a handsome face and decent body and it is enough. Life isn't about girls. I know you girls think you are the most important thing in existence. You are not. No man in his right mind is going to change everything about himself just so the shallow sluts would get on their knees more quickly. The fact that you expect guys to change themselves just so you'd find them attractive shows you are a nightmare and only good for one thing.
Girls have found me attractive all my life. And I go to the gym. Have a decent body. Don't need steroids. Not all girls like food monkeys and it makes you irratible and hostile and shrinks your balls
@mantelk You probably should consider the quality of the person trying to provide this advice. Sounds like she's been hurt because of her inability to keep a quality man and now she's pretending to give "advice" which just disguises her own failures.
@Vegasrunner You’re just disregard my advice because I've offended you.
Never had a boyfriend. Never intended to have one. I’m telling you exactly how it is. And what you need to do to obtain women. You need to look like a CHAD BRAD. END OF STORY.
If you’re rude to women and you like this You ain’t gonna get no P—SY!
@EmyyWolf I certainly can understand your need to believe everyone is as emotional as you. I think it's cute that you share immature outbursts however my point is no one should take your advice seriously because You have zero real world experience on this subject and are basically just sharing social media buzz words to hide the fact that you have been unable to attract a quality man of your own.
Dude. You’re advice for me is to #1.. BE RUDE #2.. BELITTLE WOMEN #3… LOOK DOWN UPON WOMEN #4… ASUME THEYRE ALL SL—S #5…BE REDPILLED EVEN IF YOU LOOK LIKE A NERD
Now you're acting suspicious and accusatory you don't respond to messages it's a one-way street with you when you communicate people on here so your communication styles is either very poor or your fake account you seem to be too aggressive to be a female and pushing hard on this type of narrative when I asked you about STD rates you blew over me so something is wrong here
I do consider myself a “nice guy,” but I don’t consider myself someone who will let others, specifically women, take advantage of me, use me, etc. Also, while I’m a “nice guy” I do many things that may be characterized as stereotypically masculine such as train fighting, shoot guns, lift weights, etc. I’m currently in the US Army working as an infantryman, which is perhaps one of the most man dominated jobs in any military all across the world. I think what I’m trying to say is, having balance is ultimately what is attractive. You don’t want to be a “nice guy” who lets women take advantage of him or men for that matter. Also, you don’t want to look like you can’t protect your friends and family.
I dont live for others. I won't be what others expect of me. I WILL return the same energy you throw at me. If you radiate sunshine then ill care if you yell ill yell back.
there's a difference between being a badboy and being a nice guy... And being frank and not caring if you hurt some bitches feelings when she's being a sassy cunt isn't being a badboy its being an asshole and i support that. Being kind to get somewhere in life isn't being a nice guy. Its being a manipulator at best a SIMP at worst...
Dont live for women or society. Its not hard to be a better person and just accept what comes your way. Not every man or woman wil get a partner. Many will die alone. Especially women these days lmao. It does no good to try and be what society and women want when societies chaging and women dont know what they want... Just do yourself and see what comes along.
Are you a nice guy or a "nice guy", notice the quotation on the latter. A nice guy is a man who is genuinely cordial and pleasant to everyone irrespective of his sexual interest. He treats them nicely because he himself is secure emotionally and doesn't feel the need to put anyone down to make himself feel better or bigger.
Now were you trying to act extra nice and accommodative to your dates? That is a big red flag for women because they inherently know and realize that your perceived sexual mean value (SMV) is lower than theirs and act accordingly.
Don't be the nice guy, nothing dries a girl up faster than them knowing how much you like them. You have to be indifferent about them, then they will try to get your attention.
Sure they like to phrase it in stupid ways like "be nice without expecting anything in return" so just what I said, be indifferent, they like guys who don't care if they're there or not..
Seems stupid to me,, if I don't care about weither or not I get the girl then I don't fuck with that girl,, I try to be around girls I care about,, but that just gets you rejected or worse,, friendzoned. Their idea of treating people like people is very different from mine.
Nice isn't synonymous with weak, which sadly is often what guys really are when they're talking about saying being a nice guy. You're just too weak to stand up for yourself when it matters.
That's not the same thing. Nice is more about the general tone and if you the actions that you take. You can protect yourself while not being an asshole oh, but you do need to have the ability to be an asshole when it's warranted
If you're nice, because you don't have the ability to be not nice. You're just weak and that's unattractive
But I will give you one thing. Girls do call a lot of shit being mean or being selfish that really aren't. So if you're going by that standard then okay
Were you only being a nice guy so that you will attract women? If so, then you were never a nice guy to being with. From what I hear, you are just an opportunistic guy that pretends to be nice. Girls are not necessarily looking for bad guys but a confident guy, that knows what he is doing, who is doing things because he wants to and not just to look "nice", usually never fails to attract. No one asked you to be a nice guy, no one asked you to be nice only to be taken advantage by women. That's all on you. So now you want to change, to be a bad guy just so you can attract women. You are a sad person.
Sometimes confidence isn't enough. A lot of women want a dominate man. Some guys out there are naturally kind to everyone, not very dominate and if they are usually is the kind and gentle dominate. Nice guys don't want to take control, they want the woman to know she has her own control over herself and him over himself. But that's not "man" enough for her. And if a guy is below the average height. Yeah, good luck ever finding anyone
@SeanshterMonster I'm not saying that only confidence is needed. If the guy is kind and gentle in nature but had to pretend to be a bad guy just to attract women (like what asker is intending to do), I see him as a pathetic person.
The ultimate conclusion of red pill philosophy (expressed by youtubers as well as reddit) is as follows: 1. Focus on yourself first. When you are in a state of life where you are pretty much setlled, then go for women as you will have something desirable 2. The roadmap is as follows: physical fitness, dressing, money, social skills. Work on it one by one 3. Woman is a luxury, not a necessity. A single man can get enough women pregnant so it's not an urgent thing for you to get married and stuff. 4. Forget Women and dating, focus on yourself. When you can assure yourself that a woman does not have a reason to reject you, go back into dating. 5. Being nice to get something isn't being nice. Be like a king, generous without expectations. This king mentality takes time to develop and for this to happen, you should be away from women and those who use your kindness
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