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Yes, 100%
Specially as an overweight woman.
You only get the worst options, because you’re a 2. And then a couple perverts that only want to bang you. And some want to use you and make porn with you and BBW videos. I only hooked up with 14 guys on there in 2020 and gave up. Both average and gorgeous. The hot ones usually had tiny BANANAS and the average ones had large or medium BANANAS. I gave it up because it was heartbreaking. Those are actual real connections like how I’d have in my face to face life. I was always worried about text messages and about those narcissists that would ignore me. That would never happen with someone I met at my actual job who I hooked up with or had a friends with benefits relationship with. Those who I met in person I keep in touch with. Those online I completely removed and blocked form my life.
So then I chose to use it for my YouTube channel and UP my subscribers.
And then I got banned permanently XD
Then I used mom and dad phone number to make 2 more accounts and got banned again. But I made it to 1k subs.07 Reply- Opinion Owner+1 y
THOSE aren't REAL CONNECTIONS
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Come on, you can't be that hard up for sex.
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@Daniela1982
HARD UP? - +1 y
That you have to hook up on Tinder. Unless that is what you are looking for.
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@Daniela1982
I had to hook up because no one wants me long term.
But now I regret it. I could have kept my innocence. - +1 y
Only hooked up with 14 guys? I've only had sex with 2 girls in my life lmao.
There are definitely guys that are looking for long term. You're probably just not interested in those types because they have a certain personality that you're not attracted to.
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453 opinions shared on Dating topic. That is exactly the attitude that you should have. All dating apps are borderline frauds because of their business model. All their revenue comes from subscriptions from men. You have to also understand that men outnumber women on dating apps by 4:1, and on top of that women are notoriously picky. Several studies have shown that women swipe left on most of the men's profiles there, meaning the average man is unattractive and invisible to the average woman. Now this means that who is benefiting from dating apps? - Nearly all women and a very few elite men who are genetically gifted or can show off their financial assets on their photos. Now to combat this invisibility the app offers subscription based services where you can stand out from the crowd and gain visibility, but is it worth it and might be it can increase visibility but does it increase attractiveness?
On top of this there are instances that the first time you join, your profile will get a unnatural boost and shown to most women, resulting in you getting a few likes, and thereafter that will stop and you will be asked to subscribe. Or what I call downright fraud is that you will be matched with a bot but you can only see her profile if you subscribe. What happens is that either the match does not reply or unmatches after a few days or if she's talking then you will be making 99 % of the effort there.
Is all that worth it? I really dont think so. I'd rather invest that money in an education and learning a hobby and trade, you have a much better chance finding a relationship there.10 Reply
2K opinions shared on Dating topic. Yes, they are a scam. They are intentionally designed to give you some hope at the start (if you are a guy), and then you will be matched with some bots to exploit that hope, but you'll need to pay to talk to them. If you pay, the bot will string you along for a bit and then ghost you - but more bots await if you pay more.
Sure, if you are very handsome and/or project a high lifestyle, you will get real matches without paying - it's just like with carnival games: if you see an occasional winner, it gives you hope that can be exploited.
Girls mostly have no idea that this is going on - girls are the bait that the app uses to generate subscriptions.
Go OUTSIDE and meet LOCAL women in the real world. You will need to do more work but you will also have much better results.23 Reply- +1 y
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@Shiningtempest You can also be misled instantly (and easily), and she can hide critical red flags from you very easily. Hell, it could be a 55-year-old dude - you don't even know. Also, she doesn't know you either. Meeting people in person cuts out all of that crap, and, yes, it's more work, but the quality of the results is also dramatically better.
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It’s not a scam, though like every 5th profile is one to report bc it’s not a picture of the actual person and they’re name is usually something weird. But it did work for me for free. I got over 200 matches, and over 200 likes that I never sorted through bc I didn’t want to pay for premium. I honestly left tho bc so many people on there were young and wanting just hookups and I was looking for more.
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It's just honest feedback of where you stand at the most superficial level with respect to what you put out there.
If you just have a good quality profile photo of you smiling. A photo of you with friends having fun. A photo of you doing some kind of hobby. A photo that shows your physique, ideally not a mirror selfie.
Throw up a basic bio. Could be a joke or something genuine. Right swipe and you'll get matches. Don't pay for that shit unless you're already getting results for free and really want to see a lot more girls.
Music choice is bonus but not important overall. And only link your IG if it's a high quality IG. a lot of this is about presentation. Don't have to be rich or the best looking dude, but you do have to put together a good presentation of yourself if you want matches03 Reply- +1 y
I've talked to hot female friends and girls I've been with about this at length. What motivates them to right swipe this guy or left swipe that guy.
Common themes for getting left swipe:
- not smiling in any photo
- not even attempting to dress decently
- mirror selfie to show off physique or mirror selfie in general (many see it as feminine or douchebaggie in a bad way) few exceptions
- looking "hard" or doing tooth gritting photos. Most don't like that
- Hunting Fish photos, this is more 60/40, 70/30. Depends on the girl but it was said enough times by enough girls in general for me to add it. So if you HAVE TO have a fish photo just have it as a filler so the girls that don't like it won't see it or will see it's not your base. And girls who do like it will see it as a bonus - +1 y
I don't have what I deem an impressive lay count but I have far more than most men and tinder was a good source when I hit it up seriously for a season. Any guy who bothers to try can get laid from tinder for free and it is easy.
And there are better times to use Tinder than others. Going into summer it's actually better to just go out, have good times in person with friends and girls. Take photos. Then towards the end of summer update your profile with those genuine, recent, fun photos that shows you have a life.
If that's tough. Then first problem to resolve. Go outside lol
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All dating apps are trash. They are more beneficial to women. Guys could put in a ton of effort into their profile, have nice pictures a great description, and message girls mentioning something about their profile that they like and still get no response after 100 messages. It gets draining to the point where we start doing what all guys do and say "Hey" even though every girl on the internet says they hate that. And yet they don't know what men go through.
Girls on the other hand could put zero effort into their profile and have no pictures or a picture of their cat and get tons of guys in their inboxes. They could have a date by the end of the day if they wanted at any point in time. All they have to do is pick a guy that caught their eye in their inbox. The main thing is... they have options. Men don't (for the most part).
And the kind of guys women are generally attracted to usually just want to use them for sex. It's a repeated cycle.00 Reply 390 opinions shared on Dating topic. I don't think Tinder is a scam itself, but there are anywhere between a shit-ton to like a hard-core, fuck-ton of scammers on these dating sites and apps. Excuse my profanity, but at the same time it's true. Those type of scammers perform a great deal amount of catfishing for people who are lonely and desperate for love, and those scammers catfish/prey on those people to try and snuggle/warm up to them to try and establish trust and severely guilt trip those people into sending them money all the time without ever meeting them in person.
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No and yes. Tinder is all about looks. They try to make you believe you can get girls by swiping or buying their memberships. The honest truth, is if you are not a 6ft hot looking model dude you barely stand a chance. Tinder knows this because of their data. So when they see you don't get much matches they will always try to sell you their memberships. It's all looks and sadly it over inflates a girl ego.
00 Reply 1.1K opinions shared on Dating topic. Tinder is a scam. It's so heavily weighted against men. Unless you're in the 99 percentile of attractiveness and socio-economic status it's a waste of time.
Women get 100s of likes and matches, even average looking ones. Their egos are out of control.
To be fair, I used to get a lot of matches when they had superlikes.
Now, it's like a ghost town. Your profile is irrelevant against the other 10000 other losers.00 Reply- +1 y
If someone likes you on tinder, tinder will put that person's profile as the last one in your swipe list. So you gotta swipe around 50 other profiles to reach that person. So you're tempted to pay just to see who likes you.
Girls on the other hand get around 8/10 likes. So they don't have to swipe so much to find a match.
Then there's the other part where paid members get shown first to girls. So unless you're in a city with very less population getting a good match with free account is very difficult.00 Reply - Anonymous(30-35)+1 y
Unless you are looking for a one night stand with a girls who’s sloppy seconds or want to be catfished or ghosted, dating apps are the way to go. The girls or women who are legit seem to have unrealistic expectations of the guy or man she wants to be with. I think girls and women are hypocrites because many females support the LGBTQ movement and will even compliment guys acting like sissy fags. I know that’s a very harsh comment to make. I don’t have a problem with gay guys and what you do behind closed doors is your business. But girls/women shouldn’t bash men today as being overly sensitive, lacking confidence and etc or being told to be a man. It’s not like a girl will tell a guy who’s super gay to “be a man”. We lived in a fucked up culture. That’s why many people are stuck and bitter with past experiences and we follow dumb shit aimlessly. That is essentially a chain reaction.
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Yes because from a guy´s point chances are low that you get anything from it. The odds are oftentime against because a normal profile pic and chances are high that you don´t come with a bio text that other guys aren´t already using or that is overly-creative.
So if you have luck and time tinder might be an idea.00 Reply - Anonymous(18-24)+1 y
Depends what you are looking for. If you go on there looking for a relationship, understand that spending money is just going to be a waste of your time.
If you are looking to hookup with people, it might be a wise investment, but also understand that there’s a lot of fakes out there.11 Reply - +1 y
no, it isn't a "scam". you just gotta understand what that app is. it is designed to keep you on the platform, not to find you a girl so you can be happy and delete the app.
if you think this app is designed to most efficiently find you a decent partner, you're just mistaken, not scammed.10 Reply - +1 y
What are you talking about? You can use Tinder for free. You only pay for extra features.
I've been using Tinder (on and off, along with some other dating apps) for many years now and it's always worked for me. Been on countless dates and even my last two committed relationships were thanks to Tinder (and another app). And I know countless people (men and women) who have been or currently are successfully using it.
So please enlighten me - how is it a scam?06 Reply- +1 y
Even if so, that doesn't make the app a scam. It just means it's being abused a lot.
Either way, I don't know where you live, but I've been using Tinder on and off for many years, and while there definitely are fake profiles, they've always been a small minority overall for me. So I don't know, sucks for you, I guess? - +1 y
Dude. My two last committed relationships (one lasted for 3 years) happened thanks to Tinder. And beside that I have had plenty of hook ups and have dated women for either brief periods of time or for a couple of weeks or months, all through Tinder.
I'm not some exceptionally attractive guy, not even high status or anything. And I know countless guys in my life who have also used Tinder and it worked just fine for them. I have met many couples who met on Tinder.
I am telling you, the issue is not Tinder or dating apps. Go ahead and waste money on a "professional matchmaker", I can guarantee you THAT's a scam. But please go ahead and find out for yourself.
The issue is YOU and guys like you. I don't know what it is exactly that turns men into incels or incel-like types, but you guys need to take a hard look in the mirror, cause you suck at the most basic stuff. - +1 y
I don't know what you look like, what you act like, and so on. I don't know how attractive (in the overall sense) you are. But clearly something is not working for you. What that is exactly, you'll need to find out and work on it.
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It's a poor value moreso than a scam. I've had a bit of fun with women there, but most of them aren't serious about getting together and are just looking for chat and an ego boost. Seems a bit silly but whatever.
I'm presently seeing if I can get anywhere on several dating apps without paying. So far no luck.00 Reply - +1 y
Tinder is like fishing: just because you haven't caught anything doesn't mean other people aren't. I've seen people find their "happily ever after" on Tinder plenty of times and many others of people getting rude messages from matches they had hopes for.
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The guys will say that dating apps are full of business-bots and the women will say that dating apps are full of male-sluts. The only person benefitting is the one that made the app originally. I am entertained by some of society when they are stumped as to why a dating app isn’t working to their benefit.
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Tinder is hugely popular for camgirls and fake hookers looking to scam people. You can meet real girls on it too, but unless you're an absolute top notch guy... you're gonna have to pay for it if you want results.
I also suggest you find a hot female friend or coworker to help you pick photos.00 Reply - +1 y
i say they are not worth it cuz they dating apps have an insensitive for u to not find someone sense that makes them more money and becuse in dating apps all u can do is really post some pictures and add a few lines of text it makes everyone mostly judge people on purely looks. so ye id say dating apps are not worth your time and money
00 Reply 1K opinions shared on Dating topic. Seems so. I've had 1 successful hook up. And after that , seemed impossible to find anyone, no matter how many I liked. I hate dating apps. Definitely try to make money off of single men. Yet women don't pay and get bombarded by men. Or women are extremely picky on those sites. FB dating app, seemed to have got a couple of messages. But nothing came from it. Very boring conversation.
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But you don't have to pay for it. You can use it for free. I guess it depends on your expectations. I met my husband on tinder I wasn't looking for a husband but I was looking for a serious relationship.
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@Shy_Steve really? I've used tinder in different locations in the past and never had to pay to use it unless the rules are different for men and women I have no ideia.
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@Shy_Steve You have to pay to see who liked you, but if you match without the preview of likes then you can still send messages.
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Yes the rules are different, I just assumed women understood that it's men who have to pay..
I've never used tinder but I did IT work for a other popular "free" dating site. A few things I learned.
They never deleted attractive women's profiles even if they know they are fake.
Men are nearly %100 of their revenue stream.
If a man closes his account an automatic message from several fake accounts saying "it's a match" would be sent to his email account.
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@Slartybartfast I wasn't aware of this. Thought it was free for everyone regardless of their gender and location.
1.7K opinions shared on Dating topic. All dating apps are scams. They are built for failure and basically divided up so you can't match.
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Probably, but either way its a hookup app, hookups are for losers. If you want a real girlfriend don't bother using it.
20 Reply - Anonymous(30-35)+1 y
50 states only 13 dating agencies companies
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Perhaps you could make one that doesn't suck?
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Speaking of dating companies, Tinder, okcupid, Match, and Plenty of Fish are all owned by the same company.
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@rocksongwriter Which one?
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@TheSpaceGnome Match Group. Match Group is a publically traded company on Wall Street and they own those dating brands that I mentioned as well as a few others. For a complete listing of what they own, go to:
https://mtch.com/ourcompany
... and scroll down about a third of the way.
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Not a scam but odds are not in your favor. Think of it like gambling, pay 20 and roll the dice... put up a good profile though to increase your odds.
00 Reply - Anonymous(30-35)+1 y
Why do people use dating apps anyways? I use a dating agencies. I am not wasting my time to talking to a creepy guy pretending to be a girl. I find real women.
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The price is high but the quality is better
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@lukelugh dating agency you get a professional matchmaker to screen and make sure the person is real. They find person you are looking like some with with dark hair blue eyes etc.
When I watch videos from the "man sphere," such as BetterBachelor and Alexander Grace, they all claim it's a scam.
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It's a scam to empty men's wallets , men are the gender of hat pays so the last thing tinder wants is men to find someone.
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If you actually want to find a decent woman for a relationship, Christianmingle, a paid service like E-Harmony, or go meet women IRL.
There's no other way.00 Reply - Anonymous(30-35)+1 y
Yes tinder is a scam and here’s why. For guys it’s used for sex or potential relationships. Most girls use it for validation. If you swipe right too much you get your profile pushed down to the bottom for being too needy. You can get banned for life with no evidence if anything and the company will not lift a finger to see if the repot to ban you is justified
00 Reply - Anonymous(25-29)+1 y
I think it is personally a waste of time I don't know about a scam though as the great Ashely Reynolds would say (if you don't know who that is look her up)
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Its not fake. I get matches and dates pretty regular. If you're ugly i wouldn't bother, if your at least high average and can write a decent profile you should get results.
00 Reply 777 opinions shared on Dating topic. Yep, online dating is a scam. When you look at the statistics and how lopsided things are, it makes for grim reading, and much like social media in general, it isn't exactly doing great for society.
10 ReplyDepends how attractive you are and how good your pics are. I've been on dates and had sex from girls off of Tinder
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You have to PAY FOR TINDER? It’s even worse than I thought it was.
00 Reply 4.5K opinions shared on Dating topic. If you let it be, it's a scam of time and investment for any average man though I will say that, you're better off trying for local girls, you never know who lives in your own hometown with similar interests
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Not if you wanna just fuck around. If you don't wanna pay then don't pay lmao
10 Reply Let's just say it's not in their interest that you find your soulmate and settle down. Goes for any dating platform.
00 ReplyNo it's been working fine for me. But I use it for free.
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No it's not a scam. Either get out into the world of off tinder
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No not a scam per se. Just takes 5 years to find someone
10 Reply 1.3K opinions shared on Dating topic. I don't think so, It's just a Company trying to make Money.
If it was a scam it wouldn't be that popular.00 Reply- Anonymous(36-45)+1 y
Most online dating has been corrupted by hookup culture. Which favors lust and short term pleasure. Over love and long term pleasure.
00 Reply - Anonymous(36-45)+1 y
The average man has to swipe on over 130 profiles before getting a match.
Tinder only works for women.00 Reply - +1 y
Tinder is free, I’ve met over 100 girls on there and now in a relationship.
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yea it's pointless don't use it
but... it's free anyways10 Reply - +1 y
Its a free app I thought. Either way I tried it before and I didn’t really want to settle for low quality women
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I think 99% of it isn't a scam, but certainly stacked against men.
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Most of the profiles on it, are business. They're just on it to draw up business
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are you getting $20 worth of value out of the subscription?
if no, then move onto another app.00 Reply - +1 y
Tinder is mainly just for hookups. I tried bumble but deleted since it really wasn't worth it
10 Reply - Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 y
I've never used it. Is it a pay site? I always assumed it was free.
00 Reply - Anonymous(36-45)+1 y
Not the app, but the vast majority of the women on there are.
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Yes, none of those young men are looking for real love.
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Certainly not on tinder. Tinder is for hookups. Common knowledge.
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I am answering his question. I know Tinder is for hook ups, but it may not be common knowledge for someone like this guy who uploaded this post and others out there who know nothing about Tinder and other similar online dating websites/applications.
Next time when you reply bamesjond0069, I suggest for you to answer without being ignorant. - +1 y
Are you often rude to people who agree with you? I don't think they make a dating app that will allow you to completely hide a terrible personality, so you might want to work on that.
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You need to work on your tone, personality and mannerism. I am glad you revealed the real you. I am not going back and forth with you. Bye.
I think the algorithm is optimised to show you advertisements.
00 Reply494 opinions shared on Dating topic. Vast majority of the girls that you match with are scams.
00 Reply- Anonymous(25-29)+1 y
i am using it for this month to see without pay anything
00 Reply 775 opinions shared on Dating topic. It's not, if you just wanna fuck around
10 Reply415 opinions shared on Dating topic. I think all dating sites are.
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Do you get the service that they offer?
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Yes, it's a total scam to get your money.
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Definitely in my opinion
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Naaah I got a few fucks off it.
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