Do you ever consider having sex on the first date?

[Camila_03]

or would you rather wait and get to know each other more

[Finchie40]

It just depends on the chemistry and connection and attraction for each other , you can’t really set a time limit considering anyone new we meet is still a 50/50 chance on whether it’s going to go anywhere or not , all and all you should never feel forced to do anything you don’t want to do. Sometimes in life we come across someone that is absolutely amazing to us and the sparks are there instantly I call it the butterfly feeling when a girl to me is absolutely gorgeous and her and I instantly know we are both fully attracted to each other and we have a lot in common , we both feel we are meant to be together and we end up in bed together , My intentions are to keep her in my life and to see her more and more and get to know each other more and more but again it’s still a 50/50 chance on whether she really feels the same way I do , Me personally can’t just have sex with someone for the hell of it , I have to feel it means something and it’s going to go somewhere , if I don’t feel that with a girl I am not going to have sex with her, we might kiss and make out but that’s about how far I will go until I am completely sure if I want to continue to see her more and more , so again for me it comes down to the butterfly feeling , If I have the butterfly feeling it’s possible that I will have sex with her the first night.

[ManOnFire]

Never had sex on a first date and don't really consider it. There was only one time I was really wanting to have sex with the girl upon first meeting, but the whole "date" turned out not to be so good anyway.

I think naturally the vast majority of people going on a serious date - key words there - are not interested in sex for the first time, even if they do think the other person is attractive. Could partially be nervousness, and then also because they're really wanting to know about the other person and try to connect with them.

[jeffiner]

I would have to say that asking the question means your morals are too high for the risk of a one night stand. (Usually, sex on the first date is only a one night stand, that's why I say that)

I've made some bad decisions in my life but the one thing I've never done is disrespect myself by going against the standards I hold myself to. I don't know any women my age that can honestly say they've been with less than a handful of guys (4 guys total for me) and I'm proud of that. I don't think I'm better than anyone, I just know that to have never compromised my beliefs is a feat to be proud of.
That being said, I would say no, sex on the first date is not something you should do because I think you'll regret doing it.

[RangerBlue22]

@jeffiner i am unable to see your responses. Sorry for bombing your thread

[Haha456]

I warn women to be careful when it comes to sleeping with guys on first dates. Girls open to sleeping with guys on first dates put themselves at risk of being taken advantage of. There are a lot of perverts out there who would intentionally lead you on, be charming, so that you would sleep with you. then they will never see you again. I personally know a lot of guys who do this.

[pass_the_celery98]

I’ve had girls on tinder ask me for dick pics and I think that’s sick minded to. I never gave it to them and then ghosted me eventually. I hate that dating app, it’s fucking garbage.

[RangerBlue22]

Those guys exist but not all guys “lose interest” after if this happens on a first date. I got in two long term relationship although I slept with my then gfs within 3 dates.

[Haha456]

@RangerBlue22

Im acquaintances with a guy who goes on a date with a woman, realizes there is no chemistry but despite this he leads her on , tries to smooth talk her , be charming so thst she would have sex with him.

Its a very perverted immoral thing but many guys do this.

[RangerBlue22]

And that’s just one guy you know. Do you think we are all like that?

You know Jordan Peterson had a good quote a while ago. He said “Men fall in love with what they see and women fall in love with what they hear. That’s why women wear makeup and men lie”.

Now of course that doesn’t mean I’m okay with lying. In fact I am not a good liar at all. Never have been so I do not even try. It’s actually a lot of work to constantly put up an act. Requires you to think fast to keep covering your bs. Not a comfortable situation for me.

Now being honest has costed me several possibilities of getting my foot in the door when I was younger. Some of the women were very attractive to. But I did the right thing and was honest and was REJECTED because of it. But if they gave me some more time (and they didn’t) these women would of likely saw things in me they really liked.

Anyway women have a responsibility to say yes or no to who they sleep with. They often know a guy is a liar but the “feel good lies” he tells gives them “a feel good emotional high” they just can’t resist. They cave in to it and complain later about it. Women need to make better decisions. They are the Gatekeepers of sex after all.

[Haha456]

@RangerBlue22

There was no indication anywhere in my post where i said all men were like that. A lot of men are like that. Just cuz you won't do it , it doesn't mean other men won't.

Just a necessary word of caution for inexperienced women out there

[RangerBlue22]

Yeah but women like you will judge men like men thanks to bad experiences with other men. But these experiences could of been avoided if women had better control over their emotions.

I’ve seen women post on her “If men just want sex why don’t they just come out and say it”. Ahh its because women have TRAINED men to NOT ever say that. It creeps most of them out even if they were considering it. So that’s why some men evolved to be manipulative liars.

[RangerBlue22]

*judge men like me

[Haha456]

@RangerBlue22

There was nothing incorrect about my post. You just can't accept reality for what it is. If you have anything personal against my post , then thats your own problem. Not mine

[RangerBlue22]

There is a difference between debating someone vs. taking things personally.

I never justified what some scumbags do out there. Never said what they did was right. But I have had women take advantage of me past (e. g. “meal ticket” bitches). There are women out there who will string men along for free meals, attention, etc. and later conveniently ask “can’t we just be friends”.

Do you think me talking and complaining about my dating misadventures on GAG is going to make women like that change? Hell no. They do it because men unfortunately enable them. And women unfortunately enable scumbags like you are talking about above.

Both men and women have responsibility to be on their guard. If you don’t like my POV fine. But don’t take it as a personal diatribe because i am offering a different point of view you have a hard time accepting.

[Haha456]

@RangerBlue22

you took my post way too personally. you were accusing me of saying "All men are like this", which was something I never said. Then secondly, you're trying to look for other unnecessary non sensical things to argue about with me.

Clearly you took offense to my post and now you are trying to look for excuses to give me trouble.

Like I said, if your feelings were hurt with my post, its not me being offensive. The truth was offensive, not me

[RangerBlue22]

The issue I had with your post is you let women off the hook for making bad decisions to consensually give it up to scumbags. Like they have no responsibility or agency to not make better dating decisions. It’s a two way street.

I learned a long time ago that complaining about horrible women (and a lot exist out there) isn’t going to give me an excuse to be a sucker. That’s why I always keep the first dates cheap and watch her closely. I am more careful to watch her body language and tone.

Also I have standards to make sure she isn’t jerking me around. If she is I cut her off. The fact she even attempted that bs is shitty but unfortunately it’s what I have to deal with as a man. My time, money, effort, patience and resources are NOT infinite. I am not going to waste them on a selfish bitch who is trying to string me along via friéndzone bs.

But again I have agency to prevent getting burned. Women do too. But from what you are saying above this is all completely the man’s fault.

[Haha456]

@RangerBlue22

women should never be blamed for being led on by charming smooth talkers. Firstly , its immoral to lead someone on or trick someone for sex. Its the classic "woman blaming " concept.

Its like blaming a woman for being raped.

"if she never went out of the house to the bar until so late at night, she wouldn't have been raped at the bar". Or "its her fault for getting raped because she was wearing a short skirt".

there is never ever an excuse to blame the victim.

dont tell me you've never been tricked by anyone in your life. I'm pretty sure you have. So is it your fault for every single time you've been tricked in your life?

[RangerBlue22]

“ women should never be blamed for being led on by charming smooth talkers.” is the same as “ Its like blaming a woman for being raped.” Smdh. You know it’s funny how I intentionally used the words “if she made a CONSENSUAL decision” earlier. But you couldn’t resist making a complete unfair, ridiculous and bullshit analogy there, could you? So essentially what you are saying is “regret is rape”.

You know the saddest part of all of this is that above victim mentality robs women of agency. It literally demanding that women are as helpless as children so they need to be “protected” from manipulation. This exact attitude ultimately makes them less equal then men.

Taking personal responsibility for bad decisions isn’t and is never will be easy. But when you take personal responsibility it also gives you the power and better self awareness to make better future decisions. But if you blame other people for making your own voluntary bad decision than you ultimately limit your growth and independence.

For the record I absolutely have been tricked and worse. However I actually accept the reality that there will always been evil/sociopathic men and women out there. No amount of protesting, marching or other bullshit will ever change that. Sociopaths do NOT care.

No one cares when men get screwed by women anyway. As much as that sucks it actually does toughen up men to (hopefully) make better decisions.

You really need to hear yourself. And I am NOT talking about “rape” for fucks sake. I am talking about voluntarily spreading your legs for some lying asshole. Bad decision? Yes. But women could of turned them
down but they didn’t. You are saying they are incapable of making better decisions on their own.

[Haha456]

@RangerBlue22

It still doesn't make it a woman's fault for being led on by a man. do you think all women are psychics with crystal balls?

you're just mad because you just realized how shitty your gender is.

[Haha456]

@RangerBlue22

instead of forcing all women to become psychics, how about you teach your own gender on how to stop being sexual predators?

[RangerBlue22]

“Sexual predators” and “I am just mad because I know how shitty my gender is”. Way to go there. Really winning me over with poisoning the well there. And you are supposedly the “open minded and progressive one?…… right?

Well we are obviously never going to agree. I am actually trying to help you and I started this all with constructive criticism. But as soon as you started equating manipulative men with “rape” then I realized what I am dealing with.

You will never achieve gender equality by spewing blanket generalizations and misandry against men. You will never be equal if you all you want are the benefits but never the responsibilities.

I could give you a list a mile long of how many times I’ve been taken advantage of women. But I know that will never accomplish anything. I got told “man up” for a reason. It’s about being on guard and being accountable. There are evolutionary behaviors that can cause both men and women to misbehave. And I am not talking about criminal misbehavior. I am talking about lying manwhores, gold diggers, etc. Very immoral but NOT illegal. You can NOT legislate morality.

But I know I am talking to the wall here. But there is one fundamental difference here: I am willing to take personal responsibility as man for my decisions and consequences thereof vs. you wanting women to not be held accountable for their own shitty voluntary decisions. That in itself makes one of us the adult in the room and it isn’t you.

[Haha456]

@RangerBlue22

men are never told to "man up" any more. there is no such thing as "toxic masculinity". In fact, men today are more feminine than ever before. Your sperm count is decreasing. Men are less fertile than ever before. Men are having less children than ever before. There are no more alpha males.

You're just spewing BS cuz you can't admit that your gender sucks.

[Haha456]

@RangerBlue22

Instead of blaming sexual predators, you're trying to blame sex victims. How pathetic.

[RangerBlue22]

@haha456 are you arguing to because you don’t like what I am saying or are you trying to convince me of something? You are doing a pretty shitty job of the latter.

However I do agree about there not being as many alpha males. But whose fault is that? Isn’t a bit coincidental that the rise of feminist indoctrination in our culture coincides with more and more “beta” males. Also you trying to shame (and even criminalize) men who talked women into voluntarily having sex with them isn’t exactly going to create more alpha males. Sociopaths will never give a shit. But would be good guys will turn into passive pleasing “nice guys” because they take what women “say” they want at face value. Hence you are contributing to this vicious cycle.

[Haha456]

@RangerBlue22

because what you're saying is not realistic. Women are never going to be psychics and be able to always see through when men are being dishonest or leading them on. Its never gonna happen.
And the only reason why you're expecting something impossible is because it all boils down to the fact that you don't like the fact that many men out there are perverted sexual predators.

Do I not like what you're saying? Of course I don't like what you're saying. Because what you're saying is something what a "woman hater" or misogynist would like to say: "Blame women for everything that happens"

[RangerBlue22]

Do you really believe I am blaming women for everything? I thought about giving you a detailed example about a common problem men deal with and how it’s “tough luck chump” when we get exploited. If the world was fair (and it’s not not ever will be) women would be held accountable about the exploitation I am referring to. But men accepted a long time ago it’s on them to watch out for it. Because we don’t get shoulders to cry on when it happens.

[Haha456]

@RangerBlue22

you clearly love blaming women for everything. Anytime anything goes wrong, you're gonna blame the woman.

A woman gets raped. Its her fault. Maybe if she stopped going to bars, she wouldn't have been raped.

A woman got robbed by a man? maybe if she worked out and lifted a ton of weights, then she wouldn't have gotten her purse robbed in the first place.

A woman got lead on and tricked into bed by a smooth talker? Maybe if she was a psychic and could predict the future or could see through lies with a crystal ball, then she wouldn't have gotten into bed with a sexual predator.

[RangerBlue22]

“ A woman gets raped. Its her fault.” Do you really think i believe that?

[Haha456]

@RangerBlue22

what if I told you that in every gold digger relationship, its always the man's fault for being taken advantage of? he should've been smart enough to pick a woman who is not a gold digger?

[RangerBlue22]

You didn’t answer my question. Do you or do you not believe that I think when a woman is raped (as for real forcible raped) I believe it was “her fault”. Do you believe that? If you can’t answer that than I no longer can continue this conversation.

Don’t change the subject.

[Haha456]

@RangerBlue22

all your bullcrap questions and nonsense are just your lame attempts at trying to distract me and change the topic of the conversation , shift the blame off of yourself.

how do you expect all women to know if a man is misleading her in the first place? what sort of ridiculous expectation is that? this is why im accusing you of victim blaming.

[RangerBlue22]

Still ducking the question. Yes or no?

[Haha456]

@RangerBlue22

you're a pathetic misogynistic troll. why would anyone take you or your bs questions seriously on here?

[Haha456]

@RangerBlue22

you're the one trying your hardest to give me a hard time over such petty matter cuz your own personal feelings were hurt over some facts

[RangerBlue22]

@haha456 you still didn’t answer my question. It’s not difficult. It’s a simple yes or no answer to my question: “do you believe I think that when a women is raped it’s her fault”. I just wanted one of two words as a response to that: yes or no.

But you are afraid to answer that question because deep down I’m touching on a ugly truth that you just refuse to own up to. That’s why you are trying to gaslight me and are only further weakened your position by losing control and hurling insults and labels. You think if you “concede” on anything that would mean you are losing a fight or something. That’s how you look at “equality”. Everything is somehow a “fight” because all men are just selfish hateful people who think nothing about themselves right? You explicitly said “you just know your gender sucks”. That was an indictment on all men. I never made such derogatory generalizations about all women.

It’s obvious your life is miserable and you are full of hate. This has given you a false illusion that you have some sort of purpose. But in reality that attitude is just going to leave you empty and will only continue to the path of self destruction.

I feel sorry for you. Really i do. Oh by the way did you used to have a screen name “shaysa” or something?

[Haha456]

@RangerBlue22

you spent the bulk of your time on here saying " its the woman's fault for not being able to spot a bad guy. its her fault for being taken advantage of by sexual predators" without directly saying it.

there was absolutely no sympathy for the victim BUT I definitely hear you treating victims with an extremely harsh, accusatory and unsympathetic tone.

You may be too ashamed to directly say what you want to say. But anyone with common sense will know what you're really trying to say.

Quit thinking that you were successful in pretending or disguising what you were ACTUALLY trying to say. you failed.

[Haha456]

@RangerBlue22

you like to accuse me of being "full of hate"?

you were the one with sympathy for victims who were being taken advantage of by sexual predators!!!

now you're saying you're not the hateful one, but rather I am?

at least i have sympathy and i dont blame victims. you're the hateful one.

[Haha456]

you like to accuse me of being "full of hate"?

you were the one WITHOUT****** sympathy for victims who were being taken advantage of by sexual predators!!!

now you're saying you're not the hateful one, but rather I am?

at least i have sympathy and i dont blame victims. you're the hateful one.

[RangerBlue22]

@haha456 I was raked over the coals when I was younger for being a “genuine nice guy” by women. I raised to be nice, chivalrous and caring. This got me exploited more times than I can remember. One girl in college kept throwing me “bones” to keep me in her orbit because she wanted to use me to make the guy she liked jealous (she’s married to him now). She lied to me quite a bit too. Had one of the best fake smiles I’ve ever seen my life. But she loved all the attention, favors and compliments I gave her. She knew if she told me the truth all that would go away.

Now in that situation my 21 year old brain obviously compromised. I was very attracted to her hence chemicals were being released in my brain impacting my judgement. She on the otherhand had little interest so she could see everything plain as day and she used that to her advantage. She was far from the only incident where I got taken advantage of but she was the most prolonged. I once got suckered into sending my ex girlfriend a valentine card (she asked for). We mostly broke up because I moved to another state. It was a customized photocard of our fun moments together. It was thoughtful and genuine. So what did she do with it? She took a picture of it and posted on FB saying “look this guy lives a 1000 miles away and yet he still gives me attention. Yet I can’t even get more then a hello from the other guy (she really liked)”. It was all a setup. She a heinous selfish piece of shit.

[RangerBlue22]

Now I imagine a part of you probably feels happy that I admitted those very painful experiences above. Probably want to gloat over seeing “the so-called misogynist enemy” myself admit to vulnerability and getting burned? Women don’t know how much power they have to harm a man’s self esteem (let alone exploit). But are you going laugh at that and say I deserve it or something? I would be shocked if you didn’t considering how talked to me earlier.

HOWEVER in those scenarios I could of listened to the voice in the back of my head that I was being used. I could of been tougher. I could of walked away despite being compromised because of my emotions. But I didn’t. I gave in. So do i believe that these selfish pos women are “criminals”. No their not. They are selfish immoral cunts but they didn’t commit a crime. Rather it was just a very hard lesson to never be suckered again. This also ties into the gold digger phenomenon. These men could of walked away but they voluntarily decided to be suckers because they were lonely.

Anyway that’s how I look at women who voluntarily and consensually have sex with lying manipulative assholes. I don’t “blame” them for their mistake. But they weren’t “raped”. That’s a radically different dimension. They need to look at these situations as a wake up call to control their emotions and make better decisions. That gives them more agency to take their power back and make better future decisions.

[Haha456]

@RangerBlue22

i see you as just a pathetic, woman hating troll. I knew what your stance was without you even saying it directly. Your terrible , accusatory, unsympathetic attitude towards these victims said it all.

how terrible and pathetic of a person you have to be in order to blame an innocent victim for getting misled?

what if you were misled? should it always be your fault every single time?

[RangerBlue22]

@haha456 enjoy your self hatred and misery. The more you try to change reality to meet what you want vs. changing for reality the more miserable life will become.

Also I think you are that miserable angry fat piece of shit that used to have the screen name “shaysa” something. Explains a lot.

[Haha456]

@RangerBlue22

I think you're the miserable one. Only very sad, bitter, angry people would try to hurt victims.

[jeffiner]

@RangerBlue22 and @Haha456
If I may..

Every time I hear a woman say something ALONG THE LINES OF 'All men are the same'.. I have to point out that NO, All men are NOT the same, you just keep looking in the same PLACES for all of your men...
While I understand your point of view Haha456, that is very unfair of you to say that men are the ones to

[jeffiner]

blame when a woman is taken advantage of.. your OP confirms that women have a choice, you stated that you warn them about sex on a first date.
So, women ARE at fault when and IF they are taken advantage of.
You posted a question and made it public, how come you weren't prepared to hear a man's perspective? .. *to be smart is as easy as reading a book, to be wise you must be willing to listen.*
If men are to blame when a woman is taken

[jeffiner]

advantage of, how come men are also at fault when a golddigger enters his life? How come a woman doesn't have to be smart about her choices like men? Isn't that what women are fighting for.. to be treated as equals to men?
Being Equals doesn't just mean same pay, same job opportunities, same rights.. being Equals includes EVERYTHING, (hence "equals") obligation to pay for dates, responsibility to pay bills, pay for vacations, take out the trash, make decisions etc.
Do you agree with "my body, my choice"? .. if so,

[jeffiner]

then, -again- you are confirming women have a choice which means she's responsible for her decisions so if she's taken advantage of, then she needs to learn from it and blame.
I'll bet that the guys you know that use women for sex, that you met them in the same type of places.. ie: bars/parties/clubs/dating apps, other group examples are: school/through a friend (s)/

[jeffiner]

work or places like hiking/trader joes/gym.
Before we can demand respect, we have to first know what it is, otherwise we won't realize when we are getting it.
@Haha456, I hope you will reread your thread with @RangerBlue22 and see that he had your back, he agreed there are men out there that take advantage, but there are many more men that don't.

[jeffiner]

Edit: a guy who is a wham bam thank you ma'am kind of guy, is much different from a guy who manipulates. When someone is manipulated, it takes time and malice, that is when women (and men because they are victims of women manipulators too) are not at fault. Sex on the first date? That's men saying what they think works and women hearing what they want.

[Haha456]

@jeffiner

here is the difference between a woman being used for sex on teh first date versus a man being used by a gold digger.

A woman only gets 1 or 2 times to evaluate if a guy is a sexual predator in just 1-2 dates. She does not have much time to check if he is a good guy or not. When you're dating a gold digger, you get to have a significantly more time to evaluate whether she is a gold digger or not.

And its significantely more difficult to find out someone's true intentions after just meeting them for a few hours.

When you're dating a gold digger, you have weeks, months or even years to figure out if she is a gold digger. Knowing someone for a few hours is not the same as knowing someone for months or even years.

You may say that "she should have known". But as a former victim of sexual predators myself, there are a lot of young naive inexperienced girls who do not know.

your mentality cannot be "let them get eaten alive by wolves so they can learn their first lesson". We need to guide, teach, warn inexperienced women, not throw them out to get chewed alive by wolves.
Have a heart.

[Haha456]

@jeffiner

[@Haha456, I hope you will reread your thread with @RangerBlue22 and see that he had your back, he agreed there are men out there that take advantage, but there are many more men that don't.]

you definitely sound like you have something against me. Because firstly, I've NEVER SAID all men were sexual predators. HE WAS THE ONE WHO ACCUSED ME OF SAYING ALL MEN ARE PREDATORS.

why don't you READ MORE CAREFULLY instead of accusing me of random shit?

[OlderAndWiser]

I have been dating and in relationships for fifty years. When I was younger, I did that probably seven or eight times and none of those relationships lasted very long. Not one of them. The last time I did that was perhaps fifteen years ago and I reaffirmed the notion that it is a mistake if you are looking for a relationship and not just casual sex.

[Qdbrown]

Depends where you and the other person are in life. If you are looking to get a serious relationship and marriage, not a good idea. Exceptions aside, most first date sex ends the relationships after so long because sex is easy and a lot of the challenge is not there.

Now for the older safer, say after 40, it doesn't matter. You all have been around the block a few times. You know what you like, and some people just don't like the game anymore. They know what they like and are upfront what that is. They might be able to pull off a relationship with easy sex. But again they are often not looking for. marriage either. Most guys are not dumb enough at that latter age.

[ohsheeT]

I think it really depends on the guy I mean and the whole situation I used to go out and have one night stands when I was younger nowadays when I go out with somebody it's because I really want to go out with them there's something that I'd really like about them and I'm not looking at it as me getting a piece of ass so it really depends on the guy nowadays if I was to go out with somebody and we were to have sex on the first day I would actually kind of respect her more because she's being her own person and she wants to do it too she's not doing what society says not to do or to do but like I said don't listen to anything that I'm saying because I'm not like any other guy and for me it would be okay nowadays in the past no it would mean that I was just for a piece of ass that's it

[Moose304]

A few days ago I learned of a sailor that tested positive for Chlamydia. I know several females that have had STDs and been treated. I also know of some that have the type you can't get a shot for. I have engaged in sexual activity during a first date, but I always wear a condom. At 64 I don't date much anymore. When I did I was testing her. No, not if she would put out, I was testing to see how much of a (Redacted) she was on the b****hness scale. For me, there was a difference between a first date and a real date. A first date was a hotdog and a coke followed by some general chit-chat. If all went well and she agreed most of the time I invited her to my place where I cooked a meal at a later time. As a male, I am always considering sex on the first date, but if she put out I almost always held it against her. Today I know that is a sexist attitude. Still doesn't change how I was.

[Lliam]

I never had sex on a first date. But girls and I have started dating exclusively right after a first date, become steady partners, and began having sex early on in our relationship.
That's what I always preferred.
I don't see why sex would prevent two people from getting to know each other.

[lightbulb27]

The thought comes to mind, but never did nor is it a good idea because of all the risks and consequences. Eventhough the thrill is strong since there is mystery, it's a bad idea. Be an adult and accept your choices and decisions... and don't trust those damn hormones.. they lie and deceive for their designed purpose, and it doesn't equate to your well being!:)

[Fireguy17]

I have never planned on it happening, but once in a while it has happened.
The vast majority of times it doesn't.
Sometimes maybe the 3rd to 5th date, sometimes longer.
It happens or if it happens when it's time.
Both parties' kind of know when it is right.

[BlueScorpio]

I wouldn't do that, a lot of guys loose interest and respect if you give up that fast and easy. They will think every guy before them probably got in just as easy and will dip out. Plus you don't know each other yet.. slow down.

[Anonymous]

I seriously could wait a long time or even all the way to marriage for the right girl.

But I’ve tried “waiting” when I was much younger before and guess what happened? The girl got bored with my chivalry and hoped in the sack with first asshole that made her get the hitters.

So for me it’s just not about gratification. I would do it early to “stake a claim” about where I stand. It’s about showing that the friendzone is not nor will ever be an option.

[Anonymous]

Not a good idea, in my opinion. Well, not if you want it to turn into a relationship anyway. And actually, even if you don't care about relationship potential, still a bad idea. People in general, but women especially, have to be careful about going places with men they don't know. When I go on first dates (like true first dates where this is the first time meeting the person), I don't ride in their car with them, I don't leave public areas, etc. Better safe than sorry.

[RiseofArtemis]

Well we have a statistics that proves how idiotoc it is to sleep with someone on their first date. If you want to weed Out the ones who only want to sleep with you then you need to hold it Off. Do not keep affection away just sex.

[Opinion Owner]

@RiseofArtemis That's what I said ^^ Not a good idea if you want a relationship.

[laurieluvsit]

If I don't think they are sexual candidates, I don't go out with them in the first place.

That 'is' one way I do get to know them better... lol

[harrison102]

I would yes lol, I got talking to a girl on the phone who I never met FYI and first phone call and she was playing with her pussy. I noticed she was heavy breathing and I was like hey are you mastubating? She was like yes 🙌. Never met her sadly but she definitely horny so if I did meet her I may have been in with a chance.

[NurseMel4]

Sometimes but I don’t go on a lot of dates, as a lesbian I’ve only been on one or two. I usually just make lots of friends and sometimes it gets sexual.

[SayCheez03]

The interesting thing is how its far more common for women to be LGBTQ than men.
Something like 10% of women, and 5% of men are LGBTQ, according to the more recently Gallup Poll
On top of this, the CDC shows its about 3 times more common for women to be LGBTQ, have same sex attraction, and have same sex contact (sex)
interesting stuff!
even lesbian porn is the most popular category for women to watch.

[NurseMel4]

@SayCheez03 I’ve met many more women then men in the community, there’s also lots and lots of bi women.

[SayCheez03]

Oh for sure!
The statistics I showed you break down further
Homosexuality is relatively equal between men and women
but Bisexuality is far far more common in women

Actually, I think it showed that of the ENTIRE LGBTQ community (male/female/trans etc)
Bisexual women make up over half of its population
so they are clearly very common

[NurseMel4]

@SayCheez03 that definitely seems plausible.

[Guardian45]

@SayCheez03. I am a skeptic. Do you have any scientific evidence confirming your claims?

[MCheetah]

No, but I do think this shirt is funny.

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[Lionman95]

Simple answer no. Because the connection on the first date is not going to be so deep that I would consider that. I´m also not interested in sending or receiving nudes because I´m not looking for a sex relationship but mostly an emotional one.

[Mamaganja]

Have. Almost always sucks. Sex is better when you’re already familiar with the penis attached to the person.

[MementoMori_]

"Sex is better when you’re already familiar with the penis attached to the person."

🤣 I think you mean the person attached to the penis.

[Mamaganja]

@MementoMori_ 🤣🤣🤣

[red324]

That doesn't make any sense. You could go on 10 dates and still not be familiar with what they want sexually until you have sex a few times.

[MysticDevice]

I never rule anything out for a first date. If the vibe and chemistry led to sex then I guess thats cool.

I would much prefer to wait though. Just till we're comfortable and know eachother better.

[bobby_bush_eater]

Totally depends on the person and the vibe of the date. If things are going well but there's no sexual energy then no and that's fine, most young men definitely will want it the first date whether they often get it or not though lol.

[UnknownSwede]

It would really depend on how much we have talked beforehand. If I intend to have a long term relationship with the person, I might not risk it by having sex on the first date and have them think I only want to have sex.

[beernbacon69]

I had a few first dates that ended up being an all night thing... and usually we didn't date too long after it seems. I'd say the longest relationships I've had were when we dated for a bit before having sex.