Don’t you think many women secretly kinda hate men?

[Anonymous]

Low key. They always criticise us and present an impossible standard of man to be considered dateable in the online world.

These are femcels (female incels)

I agree

I disagree

[SteveSmith1985]

I strongly disagree. I've known many women (and girls when I was younger) from many different walks of life. Women who are of all sorts of different types. I've also had many close friendships with women over the years.

I can tell you quite confidently that women don't secretly kinda hate men. Not even a little bit.

What women DO hate are guys when they're acting like fucking idiots. If you're just a regular, decent human being... who treats a woman as a regular, decent human being... then there is no problem.

But I can tell you from having close female friends, (and from having eyes and ears), that A LOT of guys DO act like fucking idiots in how they relate to girls/women. It's actually pretty crazy to see a dude who you know is an alright guy, all of a sudden act like a complete douchbag when trying to impress some girl.

And then there's the echo-chamber effect. All these guys bitching to EACH OTHER and giving EACH OTHER (terrible) advice on how to approach their interactions with women.

Talk to women. They're just people. Ask THEM about whether they hate men (in a way that looks like you're genuinely wondering, not trying to pick a fight). They'll explain that they don't. But they'll also likely explain what they DO hate about their interactions with SOME men. (and I TOTALLY understand why) 🙂

[Anonymous]

You need to put in a real effort to be completely undateable as a female. You really have to try.

You seriously need to binge eat your way to morbid obesity, not rarely shower/shave & look as gross af or be so insane that people will think you are acting out a role in the next exorcist movie.

A lot of these women who say they have trouble finding guys usually have very unrealistic expectations who should they end up with. There is a unfortunate reason why so many women waste their time daydreaming that they will one day get a prime Brad Pitt, Ryan Reynolds or Channing Tatum.

I mean I know most of these women know deep down above is impossible. But still hypergamy seems to rear its ugly head way too much in a supposedly “modern” culture and feminists like to ignore this inconvenient truth. You don’t see the vast majority of men thinking they are entitled to someone way out of their league.

So when these women don’t get their daydream some of them have this low level disdain for average guys about it. Like being stuck with your equal is such a travesty or something. Not all women of course but especially the younger ones can be bad about this.

[Johnagain]

Very well put. I second that 100%!

[BlueScorpio]

That's not a femcel, a female is the female version who can't get any men romantically not hate men. But anyway in my opinion, no I don't think most women hate men. I dont see women stomping around everywhere huffing and puffing about hating men. I think you guys are too caught up listening to men online always complaining about women and feminism too much or always watching those raging feminist in youtube to the point you think every woman is behaving this way. Truth us most men and women are still getting along just fine outside of social media. I see men and women talking, laughing, conversing, holding hands out with their kids etc. In daily basis. It's not as bad as you think it is. I mean yea there's always going to be men and women who butt heads but not all us are this way.

[anonanonanonomys]

I said I disagree, however there are women who say they hate men. I feel like they have a very black and white point of view and have more than likely been harmed by men. Same can be said about men who say they hate women. Those are people in need of personal growth and healing those wounds caused by the opposite gender. I don't believe these individuals are the majority though. If you are feeling insecure by what seems like the "perfect man" I recommend looking into the male vs female gaze on tiktok or articles. I know it can be reassuring for some men.

[DaveJord]

I do not think women hate men... I seriously don't. But I think they have a greater fear of men, not so much in terms of physically... but women in general I think have a greater fear of intimacy.

This greater a lot of anxiety, which can easily be miss read as hate or dislike. But in reality I think anxiety has a way of feeding into or fueling anxiety. Which always bring out the worst in people.

[BlueScorpio]

I don't think it's the intimacy we fear, we want love and intimacy, we just don't want it to be used/taken for granted for.

[DaveJord]

@BlueScorpio It's so funny, because most guys would say the same thing.

[BlueScorpio]

Yea..

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

No but I do think people that make posts like this always painting all women as bad hate women, secretly or otherwise…I see way more men on this site criticize women then I see women criticizing men🤷‍♀️

[MaxRobespierre]

I disagree. I see an even amount of men and women engage in this ridiculous gender war that is obviously created to divide the sexes.

Intelligent people can tell that dividing people up weakens communities. 2 years ago, the orthodox Jewish burned down police because the cops were trying to stop their meet-up, and the police got so scared they ran away.

An armed police officer is not frightened of one man or woman. But a whole community that backs each other up and stands up against abuse or corruption is terrifying to an armed officer.

The more you give into the gender war, the more power you surrender to the rich elite that is actually oppressing men and women.

Divide and conquer.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

@MaxRobespierre but see, I don’t experience this “gender war” in my daily life, only on here (as this the only social media I’m on) and on here, I see more posts complaining about women. But I go by real life not by what people post on social media.

[AviatorTom]

I think that many women think men complicate their lives more than they would like... and the women don't like that. I don't think they hate men.

[Guy13]

You should read the Bible as the answer to this question is in Genesis 3, I think…. Give me a second.

[Guy13]

After/During the Fall in Garden of Eden:
Genesis 3:16 To the woman He said: Inwill greatly multiply your sorrow and your conception; In pain you shall bring forth children; YOUR DESIRE SHALL BE FOR YOUR HUSBAND, and he shall RULE OVER YOU.
Wouldn’t that piss you off…childbearing, marital relationship, and “how it is going to be.”
NOW, to understand the change before the Fall. God created man and woman:”Then God blessed them, and God said unto them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth (Genesis 1:28) TOGETHER as One.
Genesis 2:18. And the LORD God said, “It is not the good that man should be alone: I will make a helper comparable to him.” MARRIAGE is perfectly made and functioning before the Fall.

GENESIS 3 The Fall and Gen 3:16.

[Kazekiba]

Yeah that's why a book written 2500 years ago by old men is probably a terrible guide book. The authors hate women, they wanted to minimize competition to their authority and maintain rulership...

[Kazekiba]

Like how did you write all that and go "Yeah I see why they hate men" and not "Yeah the Bible is evil why are we reading this pig shit?"

[Guy13]

@Kazekiba The Bible is the Word of God not of man…your Creator, God to whom you will bow before…right before you go straight to 🔥 🔥🔥 unless you know Christ Jesus as Savior and Lord.

[BlueScorpio]

@Kazekiba if you think God's word is evil then you are lost my friend.

[BlueScorpio]

@Kazekiba and what isn't written or created by man these days? Everything has creator, I guarantee there's loads of things you've read written by other men you take as face value. Also all the men who helped write the Bible was influenced by Gid and holy spirit, meaning when they where writing these they were vessel being used by God. God gives everyone a purposes and can use you in many helpful ways to help others while glorifying Hus name. You trust the building you live in and that was built by man, you drive the car you have and that was built by man so why isn't when cones to God's word its suddenly not trustworthy cause it was "written by man"? Doesn't make sense if you ask me.

[AmyHew1tt]

On the internet, it may seem that way, where minorities are made to seem bigger and more threatening. In real life, women are more likely to be exasperated with men, not dislike them, unless they have a solid reason to. Especially once they've matured. When I was a kid I was super feminist and 'men are stupid' but now I'm actually basing my opinions on myself and not what other people are saying, I couldn't disagree with that more. Guys can be stupid, and frustrating, and confusing, but so can everyone. Please, men, as much as it may be tempting to ask the aliens to kidnap and zap you onto a less crazy planet, don't go anywhere🙏

[Chazmatazz269]

“secretly”? “low key”?
What world do you live in where women are keeping their seething loathing a fucking secret? All women hate most men. End of story. The very few that don’t hate all men are only holding onto their childhood fantasy that their soulmate prince charming just hasn’t presented himself yet. Ell oh ell!
It’s been fashionable to openly and publicly hate and disrespect men for the last forty years. I’ve seen and heard little else about men from women in most of my lifetime. The irony is now that men are catching up and returning the despisal, women are all like, “Misogynist (this) and misogyny (that)!”.
NEWS FLASH: You don’t get to shit on people for decades and NOT get a negative reaction. Ell oh ell!

[AnUglyBarnacle]

By default, women hate men to some degree. They resent male power (both physical and social) but rarely grasp the danger and responsibilities that the male sex has had to don throughout human existence in exchange for said strength - and still does judging by essential civilizational job occupants and workplace deaths.

Only when women are overpowered by basal level sexual urges, material or financial needs, the desire for companionship, or children does their hatred get submerged or stored out of sight. Once a female's justification (s) for tolerating a male are gone, however, she returns to the default of resenting him.

Men on the other hand generally come out of the womb loving women and wanting to please them, because when we think of females we imagine our mothers. For men to hate women, that adoration and idealism has to be beaten out of us.

[Kori1236]

Disagree. Sure there are women who hate men just as there are men who hate women. I don’t think the standards set are impossible to live up to; maybe if you’re a shit person they are but in general most standards are pretty basic, take care of yourself; as in be able to support your lifestyle, be hygienic. Treat people as you want to be treated etc.. so pretty basic standards to expect someone to live by

[MrWolf]

I don't know about hate, but they do tend to blame everything on us. Even when we are not to blame and let's not forget how they shamelessly keep in touch with other men even tough they know this hurts us deep. Still same thing can be said for men also. So goes both ways.

Yet this hate is wrong because we are all different & not a look alike. Truth is most people need to grow up and understand that there is more to life then holding a grudge too an imaginery problems they made up.

[YourFavoriteFriend]

Nope! I never believed that. Maybe they "dislike" most men, but there is no way that I'll believe that there is even one woman in the planet (straight woman) that you'll give her, her dream boyfriend and she'll say "no". So like I said, they "dislike" most guys they say but they don't hate men.

Same things happens with a lot of men. I used to be like that but now thankfully, I have changed my ways.

[rienna888]

Yeah I sometimes do but I sometimes hate women too. Sometimes men will ignore feelings of a girl and make a girl feel insecure by flirting with hotter females infront of them. They also will lie to get sex, and some of them are so convincing. For women, it's spreading rumors

[Sour-rose]

Hey, i don't like some of you mofos as it is but hate is a strong word. Soo wouldn't say i hate any man on this world, just wish they don't fuk with me... and get shot in the kneecaps.

[sheikalana]

Most of them are not even secretive about it.

[CallmeTheKnight]

Many women are practitioners of misandry.
Many reasons such as:
Sexual or child abuse
Bad relationships or poor taste in choosing men
Social media
Their negative friends and family
Lack of a father
They are just hateful

[KBird]

I somewhat agree with this. I dont know if I would go as far as to say 'hate', especially on a permanent level. My friend was sexually abused and "hated" men for awhile... but she actually just didn't trust them, which I think is different than hatred. She would use the word, but I think it was a cover.
I mean... I'd definitely hate the man that did that to her... but that wouldn't constitute hating every man.

[CoolCatMar1]

@KBird yes i also agree but i personally don't hate all men just men who act awfully towards me or women in general

[FatherJack]

This hatred is cultivated in Western " society " & misandry is seen as acceptable, and even encouraged. The misandrists / feminists are very vocal about their hatred , hardly a secret , & have many less vocal supporters too.

[CateM]

Depends. There are some men I hate, and I have a reason to hate them, but not all of them are bad

[Jamie05rhs]

As long as they have earned your hate, then fair enough.

[CateM]

@Jamie05rhs Yeah, I need a reason to hate someone

[MCheetah]

Of course they do. If a man can't give a woman money, protection, or free therapy, he's considered useless to her.

[Ms_Facesitter]

Disagree. The ones who hate them aren't really subtle about it.
There will be men who hate women, women who hate men. There are many haters, and many fans.

[Koefan4eva]

Yes and a lot of men secretly, or not so secretly, hate women

[Friendlybro79]

I think many people unfortunately secretly and not so secretly hate people in general. There's prob no diff in percentages based on gender.