Or do average guys have to be more than just average
Objectively, no one wants garbage/uselessness, in someone. Not women, not men.
However, not everyone needs to be a celebrity or millionaire to get someone. Men just need to be over six feet tall, look fairly good and have an athletic body (not overweight or "dad bods"), and have a f*ck-ton of ego/cockiness. That's all it takes to get a woman, although simple doesn't mean "easy" or "obtainable." Most men cannot help being short if they're under six feet tall, and getting an athletic body requires thousand of hours in the gym. Ego is also hard to get as well, and for some people, may be the hardest thing to achieve.
But no, worthlessness is not enough for a man in the dating world. "Useless guys have to be more than just useless." It wouldn't be enough for women either, but too many simps are propping up valueless women as being higher than their worth, calling 5s "8s and 9s" instead of what they truly are.
00 Reply
Most Helpful Opinions
459 opinions shared on Dating topic. More than average. According to statistics, most women prefer men who are better than themselves. Since men and women are roughly the same in life, you have to be much better than average.
Women also have this wild fantasy of a man having to be fit, 6 feet tall and makes at least 100k a year. This is about 1% of all the men.
Unlike women. Men are okay with a 7 or even a 6. Imagine if a guy have to find a 10 or bust. He would be single for a very long time.
20 Reply
What Girls & Guys Said
Opinion
26Opinion
7.5K opinions shared on Dating topic. We all have to be better than average. Who told you that’s ever changed⁉️ You are not good enough as you are ‼️ You didn’t deserve that trophy for second place or participation 🙄
02 Reply
Asker+1 yEspecially men. We have to change
- 2.3K opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 yNobody has to be average. Average is for the weak.
33 Reply
Asker+1 yI like you man. You're not politically correct and tell it like it is
- +1 y
Hahaha
- +1 y
Asker is politically correct
+1 yYup. If someone isn’t into you. Then simply move on. Don’t try to win her or impress her. Just leave her be.
00 Reply
+1 y"Average" is a funny word. In common parlance, being average is like a cup of room-temperature water: it's neither too hot nor too cold, but it's also not "just right". It's...just. It "is", and that's fine in certain contexts, but not people and certainly when it comes to dating. A truly "average" person is less than a bother, they are not noteworthy, they don't command attention in any particular way and you'd be forgiven for not knowing they ever were.
In this way, being average might be good if one desires to go unnoticed, but not so good if the intent is to be seen. In this way, a guy who can only be described as "absolutely average" is completely inoffensive, standing out in no particular way. However, the flip side of guy being average is that he--whatever his particular sociocultural demographic might be--has the opportunity to start at "neutral": neither delighting nor repulsing people with his presence, so any actions taken either put him in the red or green, depending on how they are received.While there are disadvantages to being "average" (such as having to put in effort to gain attention), just like how is it better to have an empty bank account than a negative balance, so too it is better to start at neutral than have to overcome some preconceived disposition and end at neutral.
00 Reply- 368 opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 yIf you mean “enough” as in JUST enough to attract an average girl. Sure.
But you don’t want your girl to think of you as simply “good enough”.
Because it means she’s settling, and would choose someone better if she had the option.
For example: I remember overhearing a female coworker of mine joking about how her boyfriend is “good enough” but admitting to how she checks out other guys.
If you want to start a relationship, you can be average.
But, if you want to keep a girl loyal to you, you need to create genuine burning desire, grow that fire, and keep that attraction.
And that takes more than just average.
You need to stand out to her and outshine others in your own unique way. So at least in HER eyes, she wouldn’t rather be with anyone else.10 Reply Depends on the situation. It's not impossible for an average guy to score a girlfriend, but the deck is stacked against him with dating apps and more women chasing top tier guys.
These high status guys are taking advantage. They can see many women, even within the same night. Oddly many women assume all men are like these guys, and call them trash when they constantly get played.
Average guys are invisible to most women. And oddly the fat and ugly girls feel the deserve the better looking guys as well, so not good news for. average guys, and less than will likely never get to date or ever have sex, less they want to hire professionals.
10 Reply1.3K opinions shared on Dating topic. I think it depends if being average is the starting point or the view some one gets when looking at your life.
The difference is people that have the goal of living an average life, having an average job and don´t want to achieve anything special in love probably don´t have no goals of them own and could therefore be viewed as boring since they don´t show any ambition.
At the same time there are people that want to live an unique life that lasts and have goals to make a difference get to know things and are generally curious. They can be seen as average because they use the same methods and chose the same career paths as many other people while having an unique and showing off unique qualities.
Both are average but in different ways.
00 Reply
+1 yDepends on your definition of average. If it’s about looks, then no, girls like average looking guys, nerdy a bit, like in a big bang theory. On the other hand, if a guy has no willingness to achieve new horizons, become better, learn something new, and he’s average in his aspirations, then I find this unattractive.
23 Reply
Asker+1 yAverage women dont like average men
- +1 y
They don't. But they pick them because they don't cheat on them. Average men don't like average women. They all want Victoria's secret models, but they settle for less because they are sexually frustrated.
- +1 y
@alexduriva If those women have high awareness and maturity.
Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yI don't know the answer to that. It's complicated.
But here's the thing - average is in the middle of the bell curve, and there will always be average, so the guys writing here that you should strive for more... is that realistic? You can have aspirations, and goals, and set out to achieve them, yes, but the majority of people will be average, and there also has to be a certain amount of acceptance for not being exceptional.
If people, in dating, dated similar, would there still be a problem?
00 Reply
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yTry to be authentic and unique. Stop limiting yourself. If you need more career opportunities, go to college. Don't take a class; you are already good. If you're a good writer and you take philosophy, college won't benefit you at all.
Challenge yourself. Take the hard maths for the logical thinking skills. Take public speaking classes for leadership skills and to build confidence to help run your business. Take a technology course to know what kind of technology you need to run your business. Coding classes if you want to run a business at home.
If college is not an option look into professional certification and training programs.
00 Reply
Anonymous(18-24)+1 yBruh if I can pull a solid 10 the average guy can certainly get a average girl.
Guys who don’t get girls most likely have something to worry about other than looks. Fact is the way carry yourself is single-handedly the most important part of dating when it comes to being a man.
A guy who is a 4 or 5 who knows how to conduct himself will look like a 6 or 7 in the eyes of a woman. If you gain a mastery of presentation then theirs not much stopping you from getting a 10. The issue is most guys have no clue what it actually looks like to conduct yourself properly.00 ReplyDepends on where you're fishing.
For the life of me I have no clue why men in the west choose to suffer here when your wealth and expertise makes you prince charming to women in other parts of the world.
Be a Big fish in a small pond.
Kind regards,
DoctorSex
00 ReplyLooks do matter to most of the women, but at the same time if you’re born as an average looking guy that’s not something you can control. Most of the guys forget that looks is only one factor in dating. If you’re skinny or fat or broke or lazy or whatever on top of your average looks there’s a good chance no women is gonna show interest. You gotta make the most out of what you have. If you’re skinny go workout, if you’re broke work for it. Wear good clothes, stay hygienic. If you sit and feel bad about your bad looks no women will be interested.
00 ReplyCertainly being an average guy is enough for an average girl such as the following.
23 Reply
Asker+1 yNot the case anymore kid
Asker+1 yAnd I've seen homeless people become millionaires so most homeless are just lazy
+1 yDepends on what you mean by average. Looks wise, I don’t like anything too flashy. I like guys who work hard, have a lot of intelligence, are loyal/faithful, and have a great sense of humor. Finances should be reasonably in order so he can comfortably provide for a family, but he doesn’t need to be extremely rich or anything.
01 Reply
Asker+1 yNow in days most guys need to fit (which they should be doing anyway), tall, financially stable and status
797 opinions shared on Dating topic. I think those immediately slapping a negative connotation to "average" don't quite grasp what average actually means and how enormous that scope really is. To answer OPs question, simply no. the dating world has become gamified and has lost any semblance of natural flow and courtship.
00 Reply
Anonymous(25-29)+1 yAverage in terms of looks or in terms of life? If you look average, short-term casual dating might be harder. If your life is average, then long term serious dating could be more difficult. If you look average you should either go to the gym or work on your life. If your life is average, again, work on your life.
00 Reply
Anonymous(18-24)+1 yYes we prefer average guys but guys don't believe that we do. Hot guys or whatever are a lot of maintenance and then you still don't get what you want. A lot of fun for a night or a week but that's about it.
01 Reply
Asker+1 yThere's a reason they don't believe you
- 995 opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 yIf you just look outside there are tons of average people in relationships. It's not like all these women are with 10/10 guys.
04 Reply
Asker+1 yI see so and so with this person isn't s strong argument
- +1 y
I see many hot women with average guys in terms of looks and personality. Maybe guys that are not average are more selective and think more deeply about women and don't easily make a move. Some stupid guys just make moves and take risks due to unawareness so they get hot women
Asker+1 yJust be first thoery
Asker+1 yTheory*
- 5K opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 yMost people are average not because they couldn't be EASILY better, but because their standards are way too low.
If they just made some small tweaks in their lives, their sex appeal will increase DRAMATICALLY.
00 Reply Beautiful people turn average once they hit a certain age so it’s ok if you start as an average
01 Reply
Asker+1 y😒😒😒
- 910 opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 yI dunno. Are you attracted to "average" women?
06 Reply
Asker+1 yIm attracted to different kinds of women
- +1 y
That's not an answer. The women you consider average, are you attracted to them?
Asker+1 yOf course i am. Average is good enough
- +1 y
Then I think you have your answer. Average women would have no problem with you either.
Asker+1 yThey're not men though
- +1 y
What do you mean by that? Do you find average looking women turning you down because they think they can get above average men?
785 opinions shared on Dating topic. Most people are average and beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so just be you and that’s enough.
01 Reply
Asker+1 y😒😒😒
there’s definitely matches for you, people like average
05 Reply
Asker+1 yIt's just interesting how women say one thing yet the actions and experiences always say another
Asker+1 yWhy are you using yourself as the exception?
881 opinions shared on Dating topic. to get average girls no. to get pretty ones yes
02 Reply
Asker+1 yAverage women dont want average men
Nah, everyone can reach to women these days.. there are thousands of guys who are just like you, u gotta be more interesting and high value than them to get some attention.
01 Reply
Asker+1 yThe women here are saying they like averafe guys but the actions always say another
- 4.9K opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 yHe can have an average body but his face should be cute
10 Reply
+1 yYou have to have a good personality, good morals, and good looks.
122 Reply
Asker+1 yThe last part is very important in the first stage. The other things dont matter until that passes first
- +1 y
All those matter equally. If he says one thing wrong, I'm out ✌️
Asker+1 yLooks are the first part of attraction then the other traits come after. Spare me the politically correct bullshit
- +1 y
I'm not being politically correct dumbass! I said looks matter but I'm not getting in a relationship with a guy that doesn't have morals and standards.
Asker+1 yExactly! But before any other characteristics matter, he has to meet the looks criteria first. That's how most people operate
- +1 y
Yes you dumb ass. But can't you see his personality once he opens his mouth? It literally takes 1 second for him to go downhill. Women are not going to give you a second chance. Live in the real world you simp!
Asker+1 yOh my lord you retard im saying that looks initiate everything. Without that, people don't want to get to know your personality
- +1 y
Then you have zero chance. 😂🤣🤣
Asker+1 yThank you for admitting it. Enough of the bullshit blue pilled stuff
- +1 y
Yes I admit you are ugly. ✌️
- +1 y
Nah. He's just annoying.
Asker+1 yAnd you're an Angel 👍
- +1 y
At least I'm beautiful 😇
Asker+1 yThat's all you have going for you
- +1 y
I have a beautiful personality too and good morals.
Asker+1 yNo you don't
- +1 y
Yes I do.
- +1 y
@Jakey29 lmao
- +1 y
Sorry asker
Asker+1 y@Jakey29 No im neutral. Im good and bad as i think humanity in general is this way
Of course not. Why do you think the show Catfish now exists😎? Guys aren't stupid. They KNOW what the vast majority of females now will ONLY pay any courtesy to, let alone think of being in a relationship with🤣
00 ReplyI think average girls will definitely date average guys so of course
03 Reply
Asker+1 yI wish that were the case in 2022
- +1 y
Some girls don't think they are average themselves therefore they do not date average guys. The problem is that many average girls are hit on by creeps because great men like great women, so their standards go up.
Asker+1 yI blame the stupid ass simps
It is to me
But even average guys turn me down cause' I'm ugly af lmao01 Reply
Asker+1 yAverage women dont like average men
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yMost people are average. Welcome to the real world and deal with it.
03 Reply
Asker+1 yYet women dont want average men
- +1 y
Of course they are. Yet most people want to date the best possible partner.
- +1 y
Because some women think they are not average because they are good looking. Because of that, they don't develop their personality properly and they become average human beings.
Anonymous(25-29)+1 yNo. Even average girls are looking for men who can take them for a ride. Its called hypergamy.
10 Reply4.5K opinions shared on Dating topic. Average in every aspect, no. Average in some aspects, and above average in other aspects, yes.
00 ReplyAverage men don’t cut it in the dating world, you will be labeled as 97% of men out there, strive to be in the 3% percent
01 Reply
Asker+1 yWe have to be better than average. But that's okay. Becoming a top tier man takes a lot of work and consistency 💪
391 opinions shared on Dating topic. I think that would depend on the woman's type.
00 Reply
Anonymous(18-24)+1 ySomeone has watched too much of that pill propaganda on YouTube
02 Reply
Asker+1 yIts popular because it's true. Women can say one thing but the actions always show a different story through exuetirbfrs
Asker+1 yExperiences
- 1.1K opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 yDepends on who they're going after.
07 Reply
Asker+1 yAverage men going after average women. But average women dont even want them
- +1 y
Just because you're average, doesn't mean that every average person is going to be into you
Asker+1 yDidn't say that or think that. But average women want to date up, not down. Average men are invisible. You have to be better than average
- +1 y
In the eyes of who? Who says they're dating up or down? In which manner?
If the other wants to date them, how is it going up or down?
I see that more often than not, people just date what they're into.
If someone is desperate to date whatever and think they're dating worse than what they can get, then that's on them. And I would feel bad for the other person.
Asker+1 yAre you not aware of the 80/20 rule?
- +1 y
Jeeezz this again? *sigh*
I'm done, bye
Asker+1 yBecause women aren't men. So it's hard to bring it up. And i bring it up because it has truth to it
- 542 opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 yattraction is subjective
01 Reply
Asker+1 yI can be a fat slob then since attraction is subjective
- 1.1K opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 yI feel like I'm average and haven't had an issue.
01 Reply
Asker+1 yCongrats man
+1 yOf course I love average guys
00 ReplyYeah, most women's are also average, so...
00 Reply- 1.1K opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 yNot in my experience
00 Reply Yes it is.
05 Reply
Asker+1 yThen how come so many average men are struggling in the dating world even with women in their caliber? Andrew tate said that being average is not enough. You to be more
Asker+1 yI tend to use Generalities over exceptions because exceptions dont disprove the rule
- +1 y
Because those women do not think they are average.
- 4.5K opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 yIt is for me.
03 Reply
Asker+1 yCongrats
- +1 y
Well in fairness I live in an area where it's easy.
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yNo, I want super heroes
00 Reply
Learn more
We're glad to see you liked this post.
You can also add your opinion below!
Girl's Behavior
Guy's Behavior
Flirting
Dating
Relationships
Fashion & Beauty
Health & Fitness
Marriage & Weddings
Shopping & Gifts
Technology & Internet
Break Up & Divorce
Education & Career
Entertainment & Arts
Family & Friends
Food & Beverage
Hobbies & Leisure
Other
Religion & Spirituality
Society & Politics
Sports
Travel
Trending & News
Most Helpful Opinions