I’m attending a social group for men and women in their twenties and thirties on Sunday, which I found online. I look like the character Bridget Jones, since I gained 35 kilos on my antidepressants. No longer beautiful, but amazingly, still mildly pretty. I’m also a really warm, gregarious sort of person. I don’t know how, but I seem to attract men easily. I don’t want to attract anyone at this social event. I was thinking, should I dress down for it? Instead of my really lovely clothes, I could wear a modest blouse and slacks? I’m really needing guidance here please. I have Autism and I don’t know how not to encourage men. I can’t read social cues.
+1 yYou're never going to isolate all men from noticing you. But here's a dirty trick: awkward though you'll feel, strike up a conversation with the one you find the least insufferable. Maybe comment on something they're talking about or interested in, like you've heard something about it. Give him a chance to comment, and lure him into professor mode. An improvised class lecture.
Just like that, you're busy with him. More predatory types are likely to get annoyed, and want to leave you be, so they don't have to hear a boring lecture.
Depending on the event particulars, maybe go on Miraheze with a laptop to different wikis, and edit pages to correct spelling or grammar errors. Look busy and important, but try to avoid seeming rude. Assuming you have WiFi or a hotspot.
Only the most determined or curious will still even bother you. Keep half an eye open for trouble. Be it horny dudes or queen bee bullies, or some stuffy Walter Peck or Karen type determined to shut your operation down just to be an ass. Since you're in your 30s, it likely isn't a high school setting. Which already improves your odds of success. Because in high school, the latter two harassing you will always be excused. But if you're a full adult, they'll have a harder time getting away with it.
If all that fails, a little self-deprecating humor might do the trick: "not feeling it lately. This medicine I needed has some nasty side effects, and now I feel like a cow."
"I feel like a country boy then," he might reply.
"Maybe I should let PETA know how you... ahem... treat the poor cows?" you joke back.
"Well, not *that* country..." he'll sheepishly reply back.
"Tell you what: when I get a chance to stop feeling like the Creature from the Black Lagoon, I'll let you know. We can have some fun then. Fair?"
"I can hardly argue with that. Here's my card, in case that happens any time this century."
"Fair is fair."
It shouldn't be harder than that. Unless you're dealing with someone who's absolutely desperate. Or if he's drunk. Drunks are hopeless.
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You sound like a sociable, relatable to person (very few people can be self critical and speak about their own states of mind, or body, honsestly/objectively - most simply blindly demand what they fixated on be given to them or else...) - ans since most men have literally no ons to speak to, nor is there an expectation men can express/show feelings in any way other than to imply sexual interest (do not use 'hit on' pls since some end up assuming if means to 'smack/slap/punch females'.
There isn't a model of behabiour considered valid for males and females to be friends - males are told to be 'alpha' and 'players' (rather than playful and gentle/supportive/kind/natural' - and girls are told to 'play them' (again, not as in 'to be playful and relaxed in safety guaranteed', but to manipulate men by moderating how acceptable they find any given male's way of being, even the existence of).
So, seeing how you don't withold validatimg the existence of males, they practice their 'seduction techniques' - that they think they must get to learn like to read amd write, on you.
No one tells males in general these 'techniques' are just manipulativeness, and that they'd be better off knowing technology and being decent.
What got you depressed in the first place?14 Reply- +1 y
It runs in the family. I think I’m just genetically predisposed to having it.
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I'm sorry to hear that, Kathryn.
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@anon1903 oh well 😊
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+1 yOk, I don’t do it often, (maybe three times in my life) but if you REALLY don’t want to get hit on all night, First if you see a guy approaching you, scratch like you have balls, or make like you are “readjusting” yourself, then when the guy hits on you, with something like “I couldn’t help but see you from over there, and if you are even a fraction as interesting as you are beautiful, then I really need to get to know you!” Just lower your voice as much as you realistically can, and sound as stereotypically flamboyant. Like with the lisp and everything! Then touch his hand and say “Oh my god!!! You just made my night baby,” then lower you voice a bit look around and finish with, “Believe it or not this is my first time ever going out in public like FULL-ON as a woman! So your validation that I’m truly “passable” (and use the air quotes), Means the would to me… So, you wanna buy me that drink? I’m warning you right now, baby my ass ain’t cheap, Ah but you look like you can afford the best, so where do you wanna go, you got a place near by?” If you do it right, NOBODY will ever hit on you for the rest of the night!
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+1 yMen don't approach women because their hot, they approach because they think they have a chance and won't get shit on if they don't. Men are terrified of rejection and generally avoid woman who are glammed up because those types tend to be very narrow minded about the men they want. The more effort a woman puts in herself the more she demands the same from a guy and will always be looking to upgrade
Similarly they often avoid ugly women because being rejected by one hurts their ego more than rejection by an average looker.
Unfortunately you've ended up in the "desirable, safe and achievable" group.622 Reply- +1 y
Which would mean the confident, glamorous girls end up alone?
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Well, I think most people end up with ordinary people. A lot of the handsome guys are selfish. It’s not fair to say all. But it’s a turnoff and I admit I did wonder why so many men approach and look at me now I’m more ordinary looking.
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I put it down to desperation in many cases.
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Do they? I don’t know many beautiful people. But the handsome men I met only dated beautiful women (usually). They weren’t intimidated by women. It was only maybe one who just liked who he likes. I think as most people get older, how others look becomes less and less important. It starts in your thirties.
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This is an interesting discussion 😊. I met two handsome men who were really humble, but the majority of hot men I met were so used to women chasing them that they were vain and selfish. I agree that many people are selfish. It’s common. Not everyone in the world is though. You just have to go and meet men and women who aren’t.
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Well, that’s my view anyway 😊
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Yes exactly attractive men are attractive and approache attractive looking women they know that is what i was also trying to say when i said about same standards i know lot of people who are want to have good looking children hence good looking partner is a priority we all have different priorities when looking for a partner
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It’s when you get older that that seems to be the case. It’s more like a young people thing, being scared and valuing beauty and status.
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Everything catches up with you or starts to in your thirties.
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Haha yeah. I have never been approached by men irl. On Instagram many times but I won't count them. My boyfriend's friends at job thought i will reject him but he still approached me I don't know why? He said it's because he felt a click well i also did ngl... But men are so weird I can't really analyze their behaviour hhaha
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@KathrynTaylor well not all hot men are selfish
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It's a game of pretending to be confident by hiding behind glamour, hoping to meet a 'prince charming' - someone waay better.
Now, I am waay better, but unless the girl is in her average, I steer well clear since none of us are glamour when naked and after a tiring or stressful day - and life brings stress if one is remotely involved with it.
Then, the glam girl eventually, from sheer desperation, becomes a second wife to someone already a father and ends up a single parent - very depressing, suicidal even.
Girls need to come back down to earth and learn to not reject but to manage their way out of unwanted sexual attention gracefully/without causing drama or animosity that would haunt them later (many males' mothers are vein and vindictive - it is the females behind those males that scare females they try to sexualise rather than decently marry and only when the feelings are such, not just to prove they are (macho/strong) males whilst being mismatched fundamentally. - +1 y
@HuskyJ you can look nice even without makeup, even after stressful days etc etc. Let's not generalise people
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@bean2k21 you are soo weird
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@CoolCatMar1 true. I met two who weren’t.
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Me too
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+1 yUnfortunately some people don’t have boundaries with people and can’t take no for a answer.
Bur a guy isn’t always doing something wrong by approaching. I get it. Strangers interfering when you’re busy or tying to do something that you don’t know can be annoying.
I say turn them down easy. Not interested sorry. You don’t even need a reason
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+1 yAre you completely convinced that every man who talks to you is actually “hitting” on you at a social event?
I have spoken to women at social events I wasn’t physically attracted just for the heck of it. I was being platonically friendly and genuinely curious about their stories. I’ve admittedly done this at dating mixers. I did it to get my shyness out and get more comfortable taking to women so when I did see a woman I found attractive it would be less nerve racking to approach her.
Now some women might get frustrated/piss off that I admittedly “used” these women somehow because I approached them to just talk while not being interested. But how many men would have a right to get angry of an attractive woman approached them for an innocent conversation only to find out later they were never really interested?
Anyway if you assume the worst about men approaching you then it can be a self fulfilling prophecy.
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Well, true in a way, but each time I’ve tried to make male friends in this community, I’ve had some really weird experiences. These men seem to get desperate and see any kind of attention as a come on
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The autistic community
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Well given this is the autistic community that’s a whole different ballgame. They are obviously not going to respond to social cues and body language the same way most non autistic people will. But they are still men though and they have biological impulses.
I would go into these meetings just mentally prepared. The guys who approach can be unpredictable with all said and done.
I personally have ADHD so I have to recognize how my behavior can sometimes off putting to some people. It can make me sometimes act aloof and not notice things or it can make me obsess/fixate over things. Sadly the latter is a big challenge in romantic scenarios. Especially being a man. But at least I am self aware that my judgement is being influenced by an unnatural issue at times. - +1 y
Yeah, it’s different with them. You’re right.
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Well you have to set your expectations and judge their actions accordingly. It’s already a tall order to expect guys to not approach you if you are not in the mood and/or are not interested. Guys aren’t mind readers. But these guys even more so won’t be able to pick up on your “signals”, body language or hints. Just accept that.
Seriously what’s the worst that can happen? You won’t be alone given it’s a public gathering. I don’t see you handing out contact info. I imagine you will park somewhere visible and safe.
Chances are a the very worst that can happen is a man might make you uncomfortable by talking to you for too long or staring too long. But it’s a public meetup and it’s going to be safe. You know what to expect. So who cares if that happens?
by the way a few months ago I was approached by a crazy homeless lady who said I looked like her son. She had this bizarre motherly/quasi sexual thing going on. It made me uncomfortable but I didn’t take it personally. I knew she a bunch of marbles loose upstairs and I was in a public place. I doubt she was armed either. It’s just about situational awareness and looking at the facts of the situations vs. giving into fear and paranoia.
+1 yAre you aware of the site wrongplanet. com? I’ve trained all types of working dogs since the mid 90’s. Including some for those low and some moderately functioning adults. They often talked about the site being a good place to learn off other adults on the spectrum.
Do you know anyone else there? That is a big thing to sign up for when you have autism.
Sticking by other woman would be safest bet at least until you get comfortable. Keep the outgoing conversations with them. Maybe even explain your situation briefly. If they are there to meet men they will disperse eventually though.
You could just be briefly honest with men too. Explain to them why you are there and have a hard time socializing. Then draw the line where you feel safe going with them.
I hope you have fun.
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+1 yOh, this will be fun ;
1. Be loud as fuck.
2. Give them blank looks when they turn to you, or you've been asked a question.
3. Insult them.
4. Bring your most annoying friend along. The more the better!
5. Earphones in.
6. Pretend you're on a call.
7. Dress down low key.
8. Avoid eye contact.
9. Give them fake number.
10. Find a deserted corner.
11. Loud ass chewing or messy eating.
The only downside is you'll probably keep everyone off, not just men. Enjoy the event!
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I've been told I'm very unapproachable, so be careful with these tricks. <3
785 opinions shared on Dating topic. Wear what you want and what you feel like you in.
If you do get on, politely say thank you, but you’re not interested. Being upfront should do the trick.
Unfortunately, you could dress in a tracksuit or potato sack, and men will still hit on you. Please don’t think it’s because of how you dress.
PS. I’m a fellow autist.16 Reply- +1 y
@Asad1ONE1 there’s a compliment in there, so I’ll take it. Thanks 😊👍
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@Asad1ONE1 why do we deserve this? Because women here don’t regard themselves as men’s property?
+1 yGood luck. I'm a fucking man and very straight man at that... and I can't figure out how to get these fags to leave me alone. The best offense is a good defense. Be a complete asshole. Make anyone that looks at you in the wrong way regret it. Tear them down and practice the resting bitch face in the mirror. That is literally my advice and trust me, I know how pathetic it sounds. That's just the best I can come up with.
10 Reply1K opinions shared on Dating topic. put your best resting bitch face on. don't talk to anyone, and if you do then don't mention any personal things. keep it very vague.
the thing is, no matter what you wear, guys still try. so it's best to look as unapproachable as possible by your body language.
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i realize this is a social group, so yeah talk to women only. keep it short with guys if you HAVE to talk to them.
+1 yYou really can't stop it yourself. Not dressing as nice/hot/whatever can help a little, not being as friendly can also help, and keeping yourself around other people specifically a group of girls can help. Unfortunately though a lot of guys will hit on any girl no matter what. So just ignore it and deal as best as you can.
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+1 yaha easy. tell them ur lesbian and wear a hijab covering your eyes and body, also dont shower for days and grow a mustache. act masculine and angry. act like the commander from jarhead. IM very sure you will keep all them away from you. also dont brush your teeth lol
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+1 yYou could always try wearing a masc-presenting outfit if that's what you want. Wearing baggy clothes to hide your body and just generally putting out the vibe that you don't want to talk to people. They pick up on it after some time.
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yI am always aware that women might feel uncomfortable being approached, but I am single now and I am obviously looking for a partner. Most guys are put off by cold and bitchy women, you can try to be like that. However, I prefer cold and bitchy women.
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+1 yI approach women who make me feel happy. So, if theyre smiling, maintaining conversation and enjoying my company, i reciprocate.
So naturally, do the opposite...
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yInteresting that you have autism, but you are a warm and gregarious type of person. Usually people with autism aren't that way.
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That’s a stereotype. Mine’s mild.
Opinion Owner+1 yAnd a lot of people in social settings are just being friendly and not necessarily hitting on women. I wouldn't worry about being "hit on" unless you are "really" being hit on. Some guys might just be wanting to meet you just to meet a new person.
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These guys get desperate. They’re like ‘oh, I see you breathe in oxygen. I too breathe in oxygen. Look how much we’ve got in common already!’
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+1 ySimply ignore any behavior in other people you are not interested in. It's that simple. We all have to do that. You can't control other peoples' behavior but you can control your response.
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I usually go with the “pretend I'm transgendered” That never fails, although there aren’t too many 5’1 men, they still exist, and trust me word will get around, and no guys will hit on me for the rest of the night! However your mature adult method sounds better, I kinda feel silly now.
Wear slightly looser fitting jeans, trainers and a slightly looser fitting sweater. Don't wear lipstick and have your hair in a plain style.
Hope that goes ok for you.
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yI used to get too much attention from guys till the day I cut my long hair to a short pixie cut. Most men don’t like short hair so my attention from them went down massively
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+1 yWear a button that says, “If you can read this, i’m going to stab you.” and never smile.
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+1 yIf you can't read social cues then how do you know men are hitting on you?
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I can read them enough to know that. I can’t read them enough to know how to assert boundaries.
Just tell them that you’re not interested and to go away and if they don’t. Tell them to fuck off
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+1 yIt's a social group. I think they have rules that say you're not allowed to hit on the other members.
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People still try
Put on a wedding ring. That usually keeps the flies away.
10 ReplyYou can avoid being too much friendly and be reserved in your behavior
10 Reply669 opinions shared on Dating topic. Wear something intimidating works every single time for me
20 ReplyFalse moustache?
20 ReplyTell any guy you come across that is interested in you - that you are gay. Easy fix.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yI've seen this post before.😆😆😆
https://www.youtube.com/embed/OQFQ5F7UwOY10 ReplyI wouldn't know men don't hit on me, I'm unattractive and not really what they want
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Oh, I’m sorry to hear that. Are you sure it’s your appearance? You don’t just seem reserved/aloof to some people?
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+1 yNo idea. Looking piss off would work but why go to a social event if you are piss?
Maybe act distant?
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Anonymous(18-24)+1 yI would say wear a wedding ring but I still get hit in.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yJust talk about having autism all evening and being on antidepressants and watch the men disappear
20 Reply3K opinions shared on Dating topic. I'm autistic but people leave me alone, just make yourself look like a guy xD
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yDress like a lesbian then and you won’t attract them
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+1 yWhy don't you want to attract men?
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Because last time I did, I got a stalker and met some other really strange men.
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Please elaborate. Were these "men" malevolent/perverted, or just really interested in you?
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Really interested, with no awareness of boundaries or acceptable behaviour.
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It is difficult for some people who still possess intense emotions to "be themselves" and still constantly have to restrain themselves beneath the oppressive burden of "Boundaries or "acceptable behavior" (since you didn't elaborate on the nature of these mens offenses, I will foolishly assume they have similar boundaries to my own and assume these offenses didn't involve anything offensively sexual, lewd, etc.)
This gives me an opportunity to pose an interesting question ( and I in doing so, I in no way want to minimize the importance of your experience, Kathryn.)
Since we live in a society where everyone is supposed to be equal, and we have (for the most part) begun to believe that we are all, in a sense, "connected" and we acknowledge that a romantic relationship is one of or THE most important and meaningful aspects of our lives.
Consider the possibility that a man might fall in love with you at first sight and you could be so important to this man immediately, that to go on living without you is a veritable "hell on earth" for him.
If we acknowledge the fact that a romantic relationship is the most important thing in a man's life, why is your desire not to be with him any more important than his desire to be with you? (if he is indeed already in love).
I will "push the envelope" and go a bit further a suggest the possibility that because we live in a society and are more-or-less social beings and because we can (some of us) form emotional connections w/ one another that the following is also potentially true:
That your life isn't just yours.
(the commentary above assumes that other men believe as I do, and that they want a relationship, not sex. Since I do not know any other men, I cannot be sure)
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+1 yRock your RBF 😅
10 Reply Try to look ugly, wear baggy clothes
10 Reply3.1K opinions shared on Dating topic. become a lesbian communist
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yMarry me, it's that easy.
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Only if I get a huge diamond ring that I can brag to everyone who’ll try not to listen about.
+1 yput on weight and act like an angry lesbian
10 Reply2.9K opinions shared on Dating topic. Gain more weight
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yBy being a man
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+1 yWear a fatsuit
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