Who has more dating opportunities: guys or girls?

[Anonymous]

[Weapon77]

We technically have similar numbers of opportunities, even though there are variations in male and female population numbers depending on city and country. Now, some countries like Iran will be completely different, but let's just use America as an example. Even after people eliminate some of their opportunities for valid reasons (drug use, poor health, rude behavior, religious or cultural reasons, etc.), there are still roughly even numbers of options for men and women. The only notable difference is that guys have to ask out several girls to get at least one to go out with them, so unless a guy asks out at least 5 girls, he won't have ANY dating opportunities. Whereas girls do nothing at all and get anywhere from a few to dozens or even hundreds of offers from guys. Even slightly below average girls get at least one offer from a guy every week.

It's really about the kinds of opportunities rather the numbers. Guys have absolutely 0 opportunities if they do nothing, but girls have opportunities even if they do nothing. And even thougj it's a tad unfair, that itself wouldn't necessarily make guys very frustrated. The reason it seems like girls have more dating opportunities is because in way they kinda do. Men are far more likely to be rejected than women, and while there are reasons for that (including how men aren't picky when they have even a slight chance of having sex), the main reason is that women will often reject a guy before he's even asked her out based entirely on how she feels about him in THAT moment. Maybe he reminded her too much of an ex boyfriend, or maybe she thinks his car is lame or something similarly irrelevent, which is obviously stupid and ignorant, but we can't force people to like us. Which means she might like him in a different moment, or she might even hate or pity or bully him in another moment. So guys have to deal with the likelihood that they've probably already been rejected based on possibly vaguely reminding the girl of some C-level reality star she hates or some shit like that. Then girls, especially the hot ones, feel like they are getting hit on constantly. And tons of ugly girls get hit on often enough to make them think they are hot (because as I said before, men aren't picky when it comes to sex, but women are). So you'll have lots of guys sleeping with any girls they can and tons of girls rejecting any guy who isn't as good as the hottest guy who banged her. In a way, that does give girls far more opportunities than guys, even though they still have roughly equal numbers.

[AmandaYVR]

Girls get asked. Guys have to do the asking. So they're in a worse position. They typically only get approached if they're really good-looking, or a public figure, or have some visible talent, etc. Most guys, nope, they don't get any activity unless they are proactive. And that takes effort and optimism.

Girls, being approached, may not get the guys they want, but they will get affirmation and some interest, typically. (Though not always, all girls.) Helps to also look approachable, smile, eyes up, and know how to dress well, and style themselves.

But even in dating, when dating, on actual dates, it's typically the guy who feels he has to prove himself, his worthiness, to the girls. She sits and judges. Though, truthfully, he is doing the same, assessing her as well.

[suzzieQ]

Girls are just as capable of doing the asking and do when they want to.

[WhiteBoyChill]

@suzzieQ They really don’t though. You’re too young to understand

[blueonblack22]

@suzzieQ they are but most don’t want to. That requires risk and effort.

The is a major benefit I don’t see women given up any time soon. Unless men collectively stopped approaching and forced women to take action (which will never happen) things are just going to stay the way they are no matter how “gender equal” our world becomes. Women aren’t going to just give up this benefit.

With all the said all I ask from women is to RESPECT the position men are in here. Respect doesn’t mean saying yes to every guy who approaches you nor going to bed with any guy who is interested. No just respect the fact that dating is an uphill battle for most men. So when you reject someone just say “he thank you for approaching me. But tbh I’m not interested. Don’t play games. Don’t be rude. And last but not least don’t ask a guy if “we can just be friends”.

No sane man approached women just to be friends. He’s not going to take that risk unless he at least semi interested So respect the position the world has forced him into if he wants to make something happen. He either approaches or there is a 99.99% chance he remains lonely (female soul mates rarely approach men first).

[blueonblack22]

I just recognized your 15. Yeah you are living in a much different world right now. But all of this will change soon. Especially when you get in your early 20s.

[DaveLondon]

@suzzieQ and with a face like yours you should ask whoever you want 😍🌟🙌

[WhiteBoyChill]

@DaveLondon Dude fck off she’s 15

[suzzieQ]

@DaveLondon @blueonblack22 I do ask who I want, as do a lot of women. They do and will ask if they want to and won't if then dont want to. The thing is that dating is an uphill battle for women too, because you never know if someone is who they say they are and being in a sexual relationship with a man as a woman poses inherently more physical risk or her than it does the other way around.

[AmandaYVR]

@suzzieQ Suzie, sorry, but you're wrong. There are outliers, and bold females, but the vast majority do not believe in initiating with men. They have maaaany "reasons" (excuses) for this.

If you do, good for you, but like others have said, you're 15 (supposedly.) You're not in the adult pool yet. There is a decidedly obstinate take on this from a lot of females. They believe it will make them look "pathetic", "desperate", and give them a major disadvantage. I could paste here, dozens of previous questions, proving this.
Which begs the questions, what do they think the males endure, then?

Being in denial of fact does not help. It's better to acknowledge things, which eases the communication gap, and frustration, between the sexes.

@blueonblack22 is correct here.

[blueonblack22]

Thanks @AmandaYVR

There are lengthy complicated screwed up list why men act this way. Many people just assume it’s just about sex drive and testosterone that we “pursue” women. While that’s a major component here is a much longer list why:

- Men were taught young that it was up to them to approach women if they want to make something happen (because it is). We are told “he who hesitates, masterbates”. Yeah that might be funny and true. But it’s also a very cruel reality that we are expected to stick our necks or we starve. We don’t get to wait for women to approach us.
- Men are results driven and goal oriented. Getting a woman is an “accomplishment” to us. Even just getting sex is supposed to be an accomplishment (especially if she’s attractive).
- Taken men are usually more respected by other men and women than single men are. If a woman is single it’s considered a voluntary choice. Like she’s “strong” or something. If a man is single it’s because he lacks something (looks, money, confidence, is “creepy”, possibly “gay”, etc). This drives men to pursue women because we know if we land one our peers will give us approval: Especially if she’s attractive then society will look at us as successful. Also women are generally more attracted to taken men when all else equal (which is horrible but I won’t go down route for now)

Anyway there are two things men can do to help better their situation in my opinion:

1) If they are single then f*ck other peoples judgment. This is easier said than done but stop letting that insecurity get to you. Get your validation out of life and not out of women.

2) Stop shitting on and competing with other men. That is many guys especially young ones will disparage other guys if they are single and/or have trouble with dating. That bullying only drives a men to be more insecure and more needy when it comes to pursuing women.

[AmandaYVR]

@blueonblack22 Yep, agree with you.

I even wrote a mytake about this topic.
It had the highest male upvote number on the topic, on any mytake I've ever written.
I feel very strongly about it too.
The Personal and Societal Benefits of Girls Taking the Initiative With Guys in Relationships ↗

[blueonblack22]

Read your take @AmandaYVR. That was excellent work! Thank you putting the time and deep thought into that. I know it’s not easy to criticize your own gender. But that advice you gave to women is what will make them ultimately happier in the long. It is very true that happier men DO make happier women (and vice versa)! Nice work!

[AmandaYVR]

@blueonblack22 I have zero problem criticizing my gender. I research, listen, talk, analyze, and interpret, as I have been my entire life. I praise, and critique, and it's always on a case-by-case basis. I see a lot of people deflecting, and not acknowledging another POV. And I am not that. I am anti-groupthink. And I trust my analysis now.

I've written geared towards females here, and men. And the females do not interact much, except in opposition of when they are criticized. Men will fight me too sometimes, but I do believe they are here to interact, learn, share, so I'll never be just on 'one side.' I support you, too.

[AmandaYVR]

by the way, I can't PM you.

[blueonblack22]

@AmandaYVR I wish to God there could only be more women like you.

Many women and most feminists need to understand that solving gender problems isn’t a one way street. When women completely own up to a behavior is damaging to men (while not trying to justify it because of something they assume men do) it actually makes guys feel understood. When we feel understood we are more opening to understanding. Admitting you are guilty of a bad behavior is not “admitting defeat” to the opposite gender. Rather it’s showing want to improve and do a better job of respecting the other gender. But too many people (most often feminists but I apologize if you identify as one) look at male and female interaction as a zero sum game power struggle. But when men fail then women fail.

[AmandaYVR]

@blueonblack22 🎯 Fuck yeah.
I just wrote, essentially that, earlier today.
What drives you nuts the most about either your own OR the other sex/gender? ↗

[Sixgunsound]

According to Dr. Warren Farrel, woman are human beings, while men are human doings. Women are inherently valuable just as they are, while men have to do something extraordinary to earn female attention and conpanionship.

[AmandaYVR]

@Sixgunsound Total garbage.

[WhiteBoyChill]

She knows its true!

[blueonblack22]

@WhiteBoyChill @Sixgunsound she’s saying that Dr. Warren Farrel POV is bullshit. Not that she agrees with it.

[AmandaYVR]

@blueonblack22 🎯

[Sixgunsound]

Fwiw his books have sold millions of copies and he advises governments and universities. Not exactly the same level of BS as an internet troll.

[Aerissa_Jade]

I really dislike the term opportunity, because it means nothing if it goes no where.

For example, I have the opportunity to interview for many jobs, doesn't mean I'll get them, so it is pointless.

An opportunity to date is asking someone out, so if I ask out a hundred guys and they all say no... is that better or worse than someone who asked out a hundred people and half said yes?

Everyone has the opportunity to ask out whoever they want, but we have zero control on how others respond on the matter, which is good... cause I don't want to be making someone say yes if they don't really want to go out with me.

Now if the question was, who gets yes answers more often, men or women... I'd probably have to go with women.

[OlderAndWiser]

Assuming that you are talking about heterosxual people, every date involves one guy and one girl, so we have an equal number of opportunities for both sexes. Some people like to claim excuses for why they are not dating, but anyone who wants to date can do so. If you are not dating, it means YOU are holding yourself back.

[RichieSmith]

okay but try making a tinder profile for an average looking woman. Try making one for an average looking man. See the major difference in number of likes and matches

[Assi2k]

@RichieSmith The tinder arguments goes down the drain when you find out that 3/4 of users are male and only 1/4 are female.

[Assi2k]

@RichieSmith www.statista.com/.../

[RichieSmith]

@Assi2k it still stands because it shows you which gender can easily get dates and which one has a lot of competition and may get no dates

[desidoll]

@RichieSmith Most men go on Tinder to hookup so they are less pickier than women since it is all about sex. For a long term relationship, men tend to be more selective so it doesn’t prove much about who has more opportunity.

[RichieSmith]

@desidoll do hookups not count as dating? Some women like hookups too and most men do not have success in getting them. Also, what about the cold approach study where the woman got a phone number 50 out of 100 tries while the man got a phone number 4 out of 100 tries

[Assi2k]

@RichieSmith The vast majority of women aren’t satisfied by casual relationships unless they gaslight themselves into settling because of trying to prove a point. Every girl, and I mean all deep down hate hook up, they actually only care about keeping the charade up because they are afraid what they really want isn't possible.

Also, men are visual and women aren’t. So yes men gave their number but men that are serious will still be selective so the actual number will be similar to the guys.

[RichieSmith]

@Assi2k well how many of those girls will be serious too? Thats not a given and it doesn't count. We are asking which gender has more opportunities for dating it definitely isn’t men.

[Assi2k]

@RichieSmith Look, you're not a girl but trust me when I say, all girls have this one dude that we loved but it didn’t work out. For this guy, if we knew how, we'd be serious, forever. (no no. "be serious" isn't the right term that describes it. How do I say, we're clinically blind to, let alone entertain the idea of another guy again?)

Anyway, we might be just going back and forth here because we have two different definitions of opportunity being we are opposite genders though. Still good chat.

[RichieSmith]

@Assi2k Im going on year 25 now and I still have never had a girlfriend. I have asked out over 100 women in my lifetime and have always been turned down by every single one of them. Meanwhile my two sisters have dated so many people and have no shortage of takers, having to turn them down all the time. They are biologically the same as me because we had the same two parents, they are just women and I am a man. there's so much more opportunity for women than there is for men

[msc545]

Dating is difficult for most men since they experience rejection a lot more often than acceptance in most cases. The rejections lead to decreased self-esteem, which leads to a reluctance to keep trying. Dating changes from a perceived potentially pleasurable experience to a very aversive one.

[OlderAndWiser]

@RichieSmith If you think you know how life works for most men because of your personal experiences on Tinder, then you have a VERY distorted view of the universe. If those are your experiences, perhaps you should consult a dating coach like @coachTanthony; I can tell you that, for most women, being a complainer instead of a problem solver is a HUGE turn off.

[RichieSmith]

@OlderAndWiser Well I know a lot of men my age who are struggling in the same matter. It is a very real situation and you can't cover your ears and deny it

[OlderAndWiser]

@RichieSmith And I know lots of guys who are dating every weekend. If you want to blame everyone else and continue having the same problems. . . it doesn't affect me. But as a general rule, the miseries that we suffer in life are of our own making.

[coachTanthony]

@RichieSmith why does your profile have to be average? Women don't go decline avg guys they decline avg profiles because that's all they have to go on.

[suzzieQ]

@RichieSmith no hook ups don’t count as dating

[msc545]

@coachTanthony In general, I think online dating is very problematic for almost everyone, and even more so for men than for women.

[WhiteBoyChill]

Patently false. I gain absolutely nothing by dating the women my age. They offer no value

[coachTanthony]

@msc545 Well yes because guys like you need a guarantee which isn't going to happen in any dating situation. How about this. I've been doing this for 20 years now I will take YOU on as a client for free but you need to do everything I say? Deal? Or will it be dating is too dangerous for men? Your call?

[suzzieQ]

@WhiteBoyChill then date a man since you think they are so much better

[WhiteBoyChill]

@msc545 Except this guy himself said he tried asking women out over 100x. I don’t consider that a “reluctance to keep trying”

[msc545]

@coachTanthony Thanks- that is very kind of you! But I am too exhausted from years of trying to make dating work for me and then trying to make a marriage work and failing at all of this. I am done dating, and I cannot imagine ever trusting a woman again.

[coachTanthony]

@WhiteBoyChill Yeah he doesn't have me in his back pocket. Any guy who hires me will succeed. Problem is what do most guys who don't succeed want? Mostly shit that is out of their league.. So instead of being realistic they choose to bitch and moan on the internet. I will snuff that out in a heartbeat.

[WhiteBoyChill]

@suzzieQ That isn’t how attraction works.

[suzzieQ]

@WhiteBoyChill you want to know what women want ask a women. You wouldn’t ask a fish what a diff wants lol

[suzzieQ]

@WhiteBoyChill lol says the guy no woman is attracted to

[WhiteBoyChill]

@coachTanthony He’s just stating facts. Women aren’t interested in ordinary guys. Only an elite kind. There’s all this flirting crap and keeping them constantly entertained that comes with the price tag. All for women that don’t even reward you an extra dime of satisfaction in life.

[WhiteBoyChill]

@KrakenAttackin Actually gets it. He’s living his best life while you just claim to know everything about women despite being a single man.

[coachTanthony]

@msc545 Okay fair enough but wouldn't you agree if I said I can't drive a stick shift on a car then nobody else should try because If I can't do it nobody else can... would be selfish and incorrect? Same thing you are doing telling men they shouldn't marry or whatever because YOU couldn't succeed at it?

[suzzieQ]

@WhiteBoyChill lol kraken is a an angry old man who hates women because he’d rather blame them than take accountability for his own shitty attitude and entitlement

[coachTanthony]

@WhiteBoyChill No guy asks women over 100x I simply don't believe him. Any sane man would make adjustments or something. Why would you ever keep saying the same shit over a hundred times? I hear this a lot and most times it's false.

[suzzieQ]

@coachTanthony exactly, thank you

[RichieSmith]

@coachTanthony over the course of a lifetime you can easily ask out that many women and I have implemented many different techniques as well. Its dumb to assume I used the same exact words every single time. If I was a woman asking out 100 men, I am sure I would have had many dates. Both me and my brother have been single for years yet my two sisters are always getting dates and turning guys down? Its much easier for average mid women to get multiple dates a week and very hard for average mid men to get any. If genders were currency, women would be $1 and men would be 1 cent

[WhiteBoyChill]

@suzzieQ He is a very well respected man on this site. He’s living his best life.

[coachTanthony]

@RichieSmith You're a liar. Full stop. LOL

[RichieSmith]

@OlderAndWiser SOME men have LOTS of opportunity. Mid level ordinary men hardly have any. Mid level ordinary women get approached and asked out all the time. Mid men can ask out women and get rejected constantly. Mid women can ask out men and secure a number and a date half the time. Mid men create a tinder and get a few likes by the end of the week. Mid women create a Tinder and get 100 likes every hour

[WhiteBoyChill]

@coachTanthony But what do I get from satisfying women? When the hell do they ever end up satisfying men for anything besides sex?

[RichieSmith]

@coachTanthony Its the truth but you prefer to believe a comfortable lie

[coachTanthony]

@RichieSmith You're full of shit with all the mumbo jumbo. You sound like a reddit baby. Some guy who gets all his info off reddit and vomits it on other platforms. Problem is no guy who sucks at dating gets rejected 100 times. They give up after 3. So stop the cap

[WhiteBoyChill]

@coachTanthony It was an obvious exaggeration. But his point was average men can try many times and they won’t succeed.

[WhiteBoyChill]

@coachTanthony I don’t care for women quite frankly but let’s both at least be honest about them.

[RichieSmith]

@coachTanthony first off I dont use reddit, never really have. Second, if you want a relationship bad enough like I did at one point, you will have more determination to keep trying. Eventually when you get rejected around 100 times you feel like that dream is no longer possible and you give up for good. Some people can give up after a few rejections, some can give up after 50 or 100.

[msc545]

@coachTanthony You misunderstand. I tell men about the dangers of dating and marriage that are often overlooked until one of them bites the guy in the ass. Men generally don't contemplate these things until one of them happens. Since you like metaphors so much, how would you feel if you wanted to go swimming, and I didn't tell you about the riptide at that location?

Love and attraction are really nothing more than addictions to neurochemisty, especially at the beginning of a relationship. Addicts cannot think clearly.

[OlderAndWiser]

@RichieSmith Getting likes on Tinder just means horny boys want to fuck you.

Go sit in the mall on a Friday night or a Saturday afternoon and watch the couples stroll by. DO you think all them boys are some kind of GQ dudes? If average guys can't get dates, how is it that they get married?

[RichieSmith]

@coachTanthony make two tinder profiles, one mid level man and one mid level woman. See what a difference it makes being born female and how many more potentials you have. Have a competition with a female friend, see who gets more numbers asking out members of the opposite sex. I promise she will beat you

[coachTanthony]

@RichieSmith You sound like a romance novel. Why wouldn't you change things up after 10 rejections? Nobody goes and gets rejected 100 times saying the same shit. And don't even say you tried different things because obviously you didn't'.

[coachTanthony]

@msc545 No no no.. your metaphor sucks because you're assuming I don't know about the riptide. I would say hey how often does the riptide happen? oh it's very rare okay the I'm good. Don't try and say you are trying to teach stupid men or men who aren't aware of this because that is what I do... I explain to men their risks.. you warn them that it can't be over come. Big difference friend. I'm here all night.

[coachTanthony]

@RichieSmith I have over 20 test profiles been doing this for 20 years. I am an online dating coach. You simply aren't doing it right and or you have a shitty personality. I won't know unless you were a client. And I will extend a free offer to you as well but you need to do everything i say and stop being a jackass know it all.. . deal? you decide.. Most can't get past their ego so if you can't then just say no.

[KrakenAttackin]

@RichieSmith @OlderAndWiser is from a different generation before women totally lost their minds.

[RichieSmith]

@KrakenAttackin exactly they just dont get it. Dating is not at all how it was just 20 something years ago

[WhiteBoyChill]

@KrakenAttackin Yeah but what still frustrates me is how @OlderAndWiser will act as though absolutely nothing has changed. He still lives under a rock.

[KrakenAttackin]

The dating sites have done the research. Women rate 80+% of men on dating sites as "unattractive". Not average, not plain, but ""unattractive ". This is statistically not possible but women hold on to this delusion. Dating sites track who swipes right on who. The women swipe right on the top 8-10% of men, almost exclusively. Men swipe right across a normal (reasonably expected) range of women , usually the top 50-60%.

[RichieSmith]

@KrakenAttackin and yet they say that men are more picky when it comes to looks. Women are so unforgiving if the guy doesn’t look exactly how she wants. She swipes left until she finds that perfect specimen. Men just hope they match with someone who isn't obese or a transgender

[RichieSmith]

@OlderAndWiser @KrakenAttackin studies continuously show how men swipe right on women around 50% of the time yet women swipe right on men roughly 1-2% of the time. Men swipe left 50% of the time, women swipe left 98% of the time. Which gender is being more picky and which gender has much more people interested in them?

[suzzieQ]

@KrakenAttackin You mean the generation of people that your generation raised?

[suzzieQ]

@RichieSmith Are you not going to take into account that roughly 75% of the demographic on dating sites are male?

[msc545]

@suzzieQ Unless you break this out by age it's difficult to tell.

[OlderAndWiser]

@msc545 @suzzieQ @RichieSmith @KrakenAttackin @WhiteBoyChill . . . and the others but I can only @ mention five users on one post. You guys have posted 80 responses and not one person has budged one inch from their original position. And still you keep arguing the same points. Anybody remember that definition of insanity?

[msc545]

Good point. This just demonstrates the futility of trying to change people's minds about much of anything. When people dig in and decide that they have a position on some thing that involves others, they're not going to give it up easily even if they have their private doubts about it.

[ManOnFire]

Why do I feel like the asker is looking for us to say girls?🤔

Either way, I think when you really break it down, both males and females have decent opportunities for dating. It's just that you have a lot of people who don't believe in themselves, have confidence, or overthink the situation and mess it up.

Although, girls feel like all their dating opportunities are bad, and guys feel like they don't have many dating opportunities - which is what girls want guys to feel like.

[suzzieQ]

Lol speak for yourself. I have plenty of good opportunities

[Echosoul]

'Decent opportunity' in what universe, for me that is?

[ManOnFire]

@Echosoul She wants you to feel like it’s hopeless.

[suzzieQ]

@Echosoul well the term decent is very subjective. It’s not hopeless, but it takes effort, empathy and people skills. The most important thing is to find someone who’s goal align with yours, and depending on what that goals are it can make those opportunities easier or more difficult to find.

[kylee2437]

Men. The reason being is because many women have more options on who wants to have ads with them meanwhile women typically want to settle down more often which gives men a better shot at a chance for a successful relationship.

[kylee2437]

Have sex*

[Guy13]

Girls as more girls are married even though they outnumber us.

[msmissydc]

If more girls are married than men, that would just mean lesbian relationships work better than gay relationships.
Because the total of married men and women in straight relationships should be equal.

[Guy13]

@msmissydc This response makes sense only to you and inside your own head. There are less available quality women, therefore, those few have an advantage.

All your response proves is that there are indeed more women “taken”.

Your assumptions are unfounded. This in no way my statement confirms false paradigm same-sex marriage is successful. The parts don’t even fit in Purpose, Form, or Function. It’s ludicrous and 7th graders get it.

Your presupposition and assumptions are unfounded and unsubstantiated. We call this, “talking out your ass”

[PraviteliNahuiValite]

Lol she had something this time. How can there be more married women than men assuming that they're all straight? For every married woman there has to be a husband. Unless that is, he has multiple wives.

[CrazyGirl2]

@guy13 Hold on, @msmissydc has a pretty good point. How could more women possibly be married than men? Who the hell are these women married to, unless you ARE talking about lesbian marriage?

[PraviteliNahuiValite]

@CrazyGirl2 only if man marries multiple women, but in that case he is the one having more success.

[LiamJHayden]

@PraviteliNahuiValite "How can there be more married women than men assuming that they're all straight?"

Utah

[UmbrusNightshade]

Women have more opportunities as they are the ones typically being pursued. That means at any given time it’s possible that more than one man can be focused on just a single woman. This means that per woman a man interacts with the chances of her being single or not talking to someone already (AKA being completely available) is already lower than than the ratio of men to women in any given place.


Add on to that things like whether or not a woman wants a relationship or even a fling, the acceptance or rejection qualifications she has personally and the attraction factors the man has personally and you wind up with things heavily skewed in the favor of women.


And most women are clueless of this and don’t understand that each time a man attempts to start something he faces a high chance of rejection.

[suzzieQ]

The opportunities are equal, the outcome isn’t.

[Black_Ivory]

My opinion is girls because guys can hit on them left and right.

Girls do not often hit on guys. But when they change the status quo, I always find that sexy and love a woman who knows what she wants.

But guys who make no effort to ask women out due to fear conscientious about their looks or being overweight. You miss 100 percent of the shots you do not take.

Not every woman cares about looks or financial status. They just want to know if you can make them smile and laugh. Excellent performance in the bedroom helps too. You could be the ugliest guy in the world, but if you know how to make a woman orgasm intensely or make her squirt, she will definitely keep coming back and it will always be hard for her to leave you. Because it is so hard to find a guy who knows what he is doing in the bedroom.

[Sixgunsound]

For women, dating and sex are choices. For men, dating and sex are a chore; a difficult, expensive, time consuming and mentally draining chore in which it is never possible to know how much of those resources will be required ahead of time to determine if she is worth the trouble, there is NEVER any guarantee that anything will come out of the effort (in fact its a sin or a felony or both to expect any kind of return on those investments, no matter how much is invested), thus it is really not so difficult to understand why modern young men are giving up on relationships with modern women and using tinder or pornhub to take care of their physical needs and otherwise living their best lives. Ladies, you have only yourselves to blame for how hard it is to find a man these days. I'm so happy that I've been married over a decade because the modern dating situation is a dumpster full of horse crap undergoing a thermite fire. Have fun with that.

[RichieSmith]

Women by far. If both a 5/10 man and a 5/10 woman put up a dating profile on Tinder, Bumble, or Hinge, the woman would get 99+ likes in under an hour and the guy would be lucky to get 10 likes by the end of the week. This experiment was tried over and over again on youtube and with me and my female friends.


Now if an average looking woman were to ask out 100 men, and an average looking man were to ask out 100 women, which one do you think would get more phone numbers? Experiments with this done resulted in the guy getting 1-5/100 attempts while the women would get 20-50/100 attempts. Women definitely have a lot more opportunity to date as they have more people to choose from.

[Assi2k]

www.statista.com/.../

I don't know about the other apps but 3/4 of active users are male on Tinder and only 1/4 are women. This explains why many men need to go after one on there because there’s barely any women on there.

[Fireguy17]

Girls.
Guys are pretty simple food & sex is about all we need.
So, if a girl asks a guy out, they have a better shot at success than a guy asking a girl out.
I never said no when a girl asked me out, and it has worked out well.
That way I actually knew they were interested in me.
I'm pretty clueless to pick up on suttle signs if/when a girl is interested in me, and I tend to miss them.
Same when it gets close to bar time and someone wants to get laid.
It is easier for me when she comes up to me vs me trying to figure out if she might be interested.

[suzzieQ]

If food and sex is all a man need then what makes him any different than any other mammal?

Honestly it’s really insulting to devalue men so much just to say that all he need is to buy and consume calories… humans need more than just food and something to put their penis in

[Fireguy17]

@suzzieQ that is pretty much every male species on the planet.

[suzzieQ]

And you dont find that at all insulting to devalue men down to their animal instincts? That is misandry.

[Fireguy17]

@suzzieQ we are all animals, or mammals if you like that term better, a product of evolution.
We eat, sleep, propagate to keep the species going and die.
We go to work to get stuff to make life easier and buy stuff, but in the end we all die.

[RavVid]

Probably the top 10% of both sexes have more dating opportunities. However guys seem to be willing to vary from their preferences more. Take height. Girls are more set on the height they want. Even 5 ft girls want tall guys.

So given men are more willing to compromise on height, Id have to say girls have more opportunities.

[shayes904]

Girls. Girls are approached by guys much more often than guys are approached by girls.


The word “opportunities” can be problematic. It’s not much of an opportunity if a girl is not interested in the guy who approaches her. I expect that most women have little to no interest in the guys that approach them, but they certainly attract interest more often. Since they have more guys approaching them girls have more dating “opportunities.”

[D_Bone_Steak]

Girls hands down. Not saying they're better, but I'll put it like this. If she wants to get laid... all she's got to do is go out and she'll have all the offers going up to her on a constant. I could pluck any guy from here and send him into a club and it's just up in the air. He might not succeed... and that's if he really tries hard. I think a girl can no matter what, but standards might play a role. A girl with no standards has no problem in that situation, hands down.

[suzzieQ]

Lol and guys couldn’t if they removed their standard? I’m sure I could find someone willing to fuck you in less than two hours.

[D_Bone_Steak]

@suzzieQ I need you as a wing girl... for reals. Less than two hours, I would pay you for that kind of success.

[suzzieQ]

Okay, if you have no standards that would be easy enough.

[D_Bone_Steak]

@suzzieQ You sure about that? Even hog beast women have more standards than hog beast men. Just saying. This is where I consider my gender, in my opinion, a total fuck up as compared to their counterparts. Look at women that make fake male profiles on the dating apps and they end up burning and crashing because they can't figure out how to even get a woman to talk. That guy that posts as a child molester that just needs a break in life after molesting children has more success than females that try to pick up a female for a guy. Just saying.

[suzzieQ]

Oh yeah, if you have no standards, I could find a willing guy today lol

[D_Bone_Steak]

@suzzieQ 😂 Guys are easy. Girls... I don't think it would be a guaranteed sort of thing.

[Ligerzzero]

Girls hold all the cards, a guy has to fight and work his ass off to try and date a girl, and all the girl has to do is say yes or no.

Only time guy has more opportunities than a woman is if he is a millionaire, then women will be fighting for the money

[TenderFantasy]

Doesn't matter the gender. It's WHOEVER is attractive, young, handsome, beautiful, healthy, pretty.

As much as people HATE to admit it, that's the way people are! The more aesthetically pleasing one is, the MORE choices you get! And the more people will EXCUSE your crappy flaws!

[TenderFantasy]

Sorry for the BOLD text. I thought it would look better that way but I was wrong lol, it looks like I am yelling... well ok fine, whatever haha.

[PhenomenalQueen]

That’s a question that could have so many answers.. There’s really no cookie cutter answer to that… It would vary on lots of things.. on average? I guess that depends on success, because I think many people can go out on dates but are they going anywhere? Before? A few decades back, I would say men.. But now, I’m not sure.

[MichaelEspinoza]

Well here's my opinion on this , as a male I'll say - female I know this doesn't apply to every female But those it does Yes they have more dating opportunities. Like here's the thing for me not I'm not jealous if women get more dating opportunities but I'm happy knowing at least I went on a date with an attractive female.

[suzzieQ]

Men have just as many opportunities, opportunities just don’t mean success

[MichaelEspinoza]

I know , but I'm honored to at least go on a date with a woman who has had many opportunities in life. By that I mean I at least went on a date with a successful woman or I at least was a part of her success

[LiamJHayden]

@suzzieQ If I make an offer to someone who is not interested, it is an opportunity for her, not for me.

[suzzieQ]

@LiamJHayden A bad opportunity is still an opportunity.

[MichaelEspinoza]

Well , that's true but speaking for myself - i don't care whether good or bad I would hope to have an opportunity to date an amazing woman.

[Zbrody1997]

I’d say is equal because if a female wants a relationship unless the guy is a idc if I get hurt type you’re expected to bring something to the table and show you actually want it, guys now have access to the mind games some women play and are refusing to play so yeah I’d say opportunities are getting better but for the longest time women had more opportunities

[IveGotNoName]

It is not accurate to say that one gender has more dating opportunities than the other. Both men and women have the potential to have dating opportunities, but the nature and availability of those opportunities may vary depending on a variety of factors.

[Hannajenky]

I read something that said women are way too picky in who they find attractive and guys find way more women attractive…. So in general since women are limiting themselves so much, I would say men have more opportunities. You would think it would be equal but I have a feeling there are a few guys and girls who sleep around lol

[DavidRaul]

Both tend to have equal opportunities. Most people would agree to the fact that woman have more opportunities but they tend to be more specific and upfront about their expectations whereas men usually settle for less and tend to be a**holes when it comes to the whole dating experience. Thats where they fail

[Anonymous]

Girls this is a ridiculous question. Really? Obviously girls any girl who’s at least a 4 has 20 guys that will take her in a date right now. Men swipe on like 40-45% of girls women swipe on 5-20% of guys. Women I think are unrealistic and too much focused on appearance

[suzzieQ]

So you’re saying you’d fuck 80% of men?

[WhiteBoyChill]

Thank you 👍

[suzzieQ]

@WhiteBoyChill fuck off

[WhiteBoyChill]

@suzzieQ I don’t take orders from women

[suzzieQ]

@WhiteBoyChill maybe if you did you wouldn’t have such shit luck with women.

[WhiteBoyChill]

I value my freedom and dignity as a man. I’m not gonna allow modern women to strip me of my manhood.

No thanks?

And what’s so special about you women anyway? What’s in it for me?

@KrakenAttackin Can you believe this?

[Opinion Owner]

@suzzieQ who said that?

[KrakenAttackin]

@WhiteBoyChill And she wonders why she can't get/keep a man? She thinks being cunty and giving orders is attractive to men.

[WhiteBoyChill]

@KrakenAttackin well the sad thing is she’s actually kinda right. There are a lot of simp men these days who are so desperate for sex that they’ll cuck for women like her.

[KrakenAttackin]

@WhiteBoyChill Let the simps,. simp. Women hate simps except when the rent comes due.

[WhiteBoyChill]

@KrakenAttackin That’s why the women usually cheat on the simps on the side. Its precisely as you said. Women view men as just tools for them to use at their disposal.

[suzzieQ]

@WhiteBoyChill you two are like a match made in heaven :) maybe you should date each other since you both dislike women so much.

[KrakenAttackin]

@WhiteBoyChill Truth. Men are disposable, expendable, replaceable, interchangeable.

[WhiteBoyChill]

@KrakenAttackin Exactly man! Women love to just rotate between men. Loyalty is such a foreign concept to them.

[WhiteBoyChill]

@suzzieQ We’ll be drinking beers together when you’re in your 30’s crying about how there’s no good men left.

[KrakenAttackin]

@WhiteBoyChill Women get so much ego stroke from social media that they all think they are "10's". Yes, a 4 can go out and get fucked by a Chad but he will never stay with her. But the fact that Chad went balls deep in her convinces her she is a 10. She sets her "standards" so high that she will never be happy with a basic, good man. What's worse, after being run through 500 times, she eventually does marry some Simp and she DETESTS him for not being a Chad she thinks she really deserves. This, of course, sets the marriage up for failure when he simply tried to do right by her but isn't Chad Thundercock. He works hard, provides, pays for all of her mistakes, and in the end she divorces him stealing half his wealth, the children, house, and whatever dignity he had. This is when men have a triple the average rate of suicide. And why? Because he wasn't the Chad she really wanted and he never said he was this Chad. It all comes back to women being totally unreasonable in their expectations of another human being, and her unreasonableness being backed by the government.

[WhiteBoyChill]

@KrakenAttackin Exactly man. As much as they’ll say they want a good man, they never end up keeping them.

[suzzieQ]

@WhiteBoyChill Alright bet, I dont need to be in a relationship with man have a fulfilling life. Being with a man is a luxury not a necessity.

[WhiteBoyChill]

@suzzieQ I’d tell you that was true if it was true. But the reality is all the single women I know in their 30’s are depressed and miserable people. Just like the ones in relationships in their 30’s. Fact of the matter is no man will ever satisfy women like yourself, at least not permanently.

[Opinion Owner]

@suzzieQ women need men it’s a reality of life Dolce you can still be single and now that you need men. Since we need men you might as well pick one who you live and makes you hus queen and be in a relationship with him because we need men regardless I don’t know how that’s a controversial statement. Men build the world women make air better just like a house men build the house women make it better they make it a home

[Opinion Owner]

Who you love* not live sorry

[suzzieQ]

@WhiteBoyChill Lol then maybe you should do some research because there was a study thast was published that found single, childless women are happier than their counterparts.
Here are some articles based on that study.
psychcentral.com/.../is-it-true-that-single-women-with-no-kids-are-the-happiest
www.psychologytoday.com/.../why-many-single-women-without-children-are-so-happy
www.theguardian.com/.../women-happier-without-children-or-a-spouse-happiness-expert
www.businessinsider.com/unmarried-childless-women-are-happiest-expert-says-2019-5

[suzzieQ]

Oh of course society needs men, but women dont need to be in a relationship with a man to live a happy and successful life.

[Opinion Owner]

@suzzieQ some kind of relationship they do. If a big scary guy knocks on your door and threatens to come in, you gonna call one of you girlfriends?

[suzzieQ]

I am speaking specifically about romantic relationships.
But in that specific situation I’d assume most people would call law enforcement first.

[Opinion Owner]

@suzzieQ right and who show up to help you? A guy a big string guy. So if you need a guy to protect you why wouldn’t you want to marry one? Have him around all the time he loves you and protects you more than the law enforcement that shows up

[Opinion Owner]

Strong guy* not string sorry

[suzzieQ]

Lol well women work in law enforce too. So I don’t care who it is as long as they do the job they are paid to do.

[suzzieQ]

Because I’m not going to marry someone just because I want protection that’s absurd. It’s not the 1800s any more

[WhiteBoyChill]

@suzzieQ In a society where everything is about female empowerment, why do you blindly put your trust in such politicized sources?

[suzzieQ]

@WhiteBoyChill because that’s what my taxes pay them to do, the same way they pay for school and roads and government employees.

It’s law enforcements job to enforce the law is it not?

[Opinion Owner]

@suzzieQ these jobs are like 90% men stop it! 90% men for a reason they’re big and strong. I’m 4’11 100 pounds what am I gonna do.. you marry some one you love for protection and provisioning he needs to protect and provide so you can nurture what’s in the home.

[suzzieQ]

Actually 86% but I understand where you are coming from, and you can, but I’m not gonna marry some dude just so I can use him as a guard dog.

I’m not saying that men aren’t valuable, they are just as valuable as women are. However, I do not need to be in a romantic relationship with a man to be happy and successful, the same way a man doesn’t need to be in a relationship with a woman to be happy and successful. I don’t need to be in a romantic relationship with a man, if I want to it will be a benefit or a luxury, but it’s certainly not a necessity.

[Opinion Owner]

@suzzieQ ok not 90%, 86% lol ok whatever 86%! So protection, provision, and companionship. You keep saying you don’t need a romantic relationship with a man. How do you plan on getting those things. Do you have/want babies?

[WhiteBoyChill]

@suzzieQ “because that’s what my taxes pay them to do”.

And this is why kids shouldn’t join adult conversations. Media networks aren’t funded through taxes, they’re funded by viewership and donations.

[KrakenAttackin]

@suzzieQ Women can't stand to be alone for more than five minutes, this is how the cock carousel got born.

[Anonymous]

Women, but men are the gate keepers for a relationship and women are the gate keepers for sex. Most women want a relationship especially if your intimate. Some men depending where there at in life just want to spread their seed and not settle down.

[hismave]

I'll say the guys cause they do the talking more or less they are the ones that ask girls out. If a girl doesn't get asked out she might as well stay alone or do the asking. So it's like the guys kinda have the ball in their court so they get to date a lot.

[stoicity]

As per the statistical data of the year 2022 the sex ratio is 1.01~ so essentially there should be enough room for every one to date the opposite gender. But again the data could be skewed sex ratio of ages > 18 years could defer in your region more on that here

Everything else is excuse.

Cheers!

[stoicity]

en. m. wikipedia. org/wiki/Human_sex_ratio

[Lynnfriend]

I think women get more opportunities. Guys are less likely to turn a girl down for a date, because even though their not interested in a future with a girl there is no sense in trying the frosting if they are given a chance.

[RSASeanie]

I would say both have equal opportunities... BUT girls will more than not choose the date that they want to go on and will probably not be rejected where more guys will have to settle for the date that actually says yes to go on a date with them... If that makes sense...;-)

[RichieSmith]

Women can choose, men have to settle. Of course that changes if the guy makes a very high salary.

[LazerBean]

Women definitely have more opportunities, but only because there's a larger percent of men who have virtually no standards as long as they think sex will be involved.

[chris_987]

It's always been like that, the sex who can't get pregnant doesn't need to worry about who there fuking

[LazerBean]

Anyone with a fully functional brain and a sense of responsibility worries about who there having sex with. Got to say though, you do a good job insulting your own gender.

[chris_987]

It's not an insult it just the facts of life, most men would have sex with any woman who shows interest, most girls would only sleep with a guy of they felt safe. The fact that you don't know these things is probably why you don't understand why people do what they do.

[Anonymous]

Men! They can be old as shit and still date younger. Women can’t really do that. Older guys are always seen as sexy, cougars there’s always a creepy undertone to it and no guy really says “as an 18 year old man, I really want a 59 year old woman”. I’m 23 and I think Jared Leto is hot and he’s 50. He has a lot of options

[Anonymous]

This is definitely the most stupid question sked on GAG so far in 2023! Are you kidding me? Girls just show some ass or legs or tits and BOOM! Bingo! Guys, in most cases (unless they look like Brad Pitt or Johnny Depp) have to lie and kiss ass just to have a chance!!!

[Opinion Owner]

*Asked (typo above)

[KathrynTaylor]

It depends on the guy or girl, but I think usually guys have more options, unless they’re bums and losers.

[Curmudgeon]

In your age range, girls, no doubt about that. As people age into my age range, however, guys, no doubt about that either.

[TheFlak38]

what an insane world we're living in where this is still a question just because dumb girls want to virtue signal about how hard life is for them in a gynocentric system catering to their vagina 24/7.

[slatyb]

It's equal, because there are equal numbers of men and women. When a woman gets a date with a man, a man has gotten a date with a woman.

[MonicaWills]

I think girls will have more chances of dating.

[Breanna_nonbinary]

If you’re bisexual then you have twice as many options.

[Shark_61695]

On an individual basis? In general?

An opportunity could be classed as seeing someone on a dating app. Regardless of which way you swipe, it is still an opportunity.

[humanearth]

I lean to the girls

Guys see a girl and they get stupid

Ask any female and see if she don't agree

[blissinanarchy1]

Women. Women can be as slutty, worthless, dirty, and lazy as they want yet still get attention.

[boggboss]

Current day and age for dating alone would say women

[LiamJHayden]

Women. While hetero dates would be an equal number, it is pretty clear to me that women turn down a lot more "opportunities" when asked out than do men.

[Noodle_fan]

it would be someone who willing to take initiative to ask someone out , rather than just waiting to get asked out

so it could be either gender

[Echosoul]

Girls/women if moderately attractive and above. Men, hmm, not a lot of hope really. Quality of dates, not necessarily so good (for women).

[Hallix26]

Depends on the forum of dating but if we're talking dating apps it is commonly evidenced that there are vastly more men than women on there thus giving women way more options.

[Anonymous]

Girls have some advantages. More guys settle for less. They based their initial attraction on looks. Which, most girls are acceptable.

[Anonymous]

Women. It's not even a question. Hence more men being single than women. The difference is made up by dating a smaller population of guys at a higher frequency or more than one girl or guy.

[RichieSmith]

true some guys get loads of opportunity (money or looks) while most guys get very little to none

[FilmGuy93]

Girls, unquestionably. Those opportunities aren't generally very good though.

[Anonymous]

Girls, all's they have to do is stand around looking attractive, and guys are right there to ask them out where guys almost most never get asked and have to muster up the courage to even ask a girl out.

[Chthou95]

Women. Women get approached thus get more opportunities. It's easier for a woman to move on because there's men on standby meaning opportunities. Think about that

[Anonymous]

If you define "dating opportunity" as being asked out or asking someone out and getting a "yes", then it's definitely girls.

[suzzieQ]

We all have the same opportunities. They only one holding you back is yourself.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Equally. The opportunities are there, but people don't take it or aren't willing to date someone less attractive.

[Guardian45]

All I know is I know G@G girls who are NEVER short for a date, and I know G@G guys, who CAN'T get a date if their life depended on it! 🤣

[Anonymous]

It has little to do with gender. It comes down to who puts in the most effort.

[MountAverage]

Mere opportunities? Equal. Actual options? Women.

[BJP21]

They both do equally if not doing it online. If its online, girls do.

[WeirdoFriendly]

Girls most definitely have more dating opportunities.

[Anonymous]

doesn't depend on gender but how good looking someone is.

[OddBeMe]

Initially I think girls have more options but eventually it evens out.

[Paul09]

Women obviously. They sit and wait to he asked our lol.0

[Heolurt]

Females have more opportunities to date than guys do.