What are some reasons why men would want to split the bill on a First Date?

[coachTanthony]

I myself am old fashioned and always pay but times have changed so let me see what you got in the comments below.

[Walt832]

I haven't split. Well if you mean as being at the table pay our own plates, no.

On first dates is always I pay the bill. The second is voluntarily if she wants to pick it up. Example I grab the bill and she says I'll tip 🤷‍♂️. Is fine too. If on the third she picks it up or invites you, then ill tip as well.

My previous relationship 😂😂😂😂 oh God. I don't know if is culture or parents thought her that way. She didn't want to leave a tip. I asked her after couple dates, do you believe sharing or helping out. She said "man should pay all bills". I broke up with her.

What I notice about my ex, few couple dates I paid her plates. As many man will ask "did you got some". That was plenty but still i am not into plate for intimacy. That is big as* no for me. After couple dates. Slowly, her parents release her little brother to go out with us. Which was sometimes uncomfortable because he was placed as watch over. Next thing you know, entire tribe family wanted to go out for dinner. The bill was high, i talk to her aside, "your my man you can pay babe".

I said "😳, wtf you just said?". So what I did, since I knew the waiter. When I had a chance i pull the waiter aside. Explain the situation 😧. I tip her good and pay my bill. I grab my truck and left, left a note with the waiter. " Pay the bill".

She calls me on the next day, "unacceptable what I did". I said "is totally acceptable because you never want to pay, specially bringing your entire tribe so no, learn to share but we are done by the way, we are free".

[Anonymous]

There are many reasons why a man might want to split the bill on a first date:

1) To avoid feeling like they owe the other person anything: Splitting the bill can help to create a sense of equality and can prevent either person from feeling like they "owe" the other person anything.

2) To avoid feeling like they are being taken advantage of: Some men might worry that if they pay for the entire bill, the other person might see them as an easy target or take advantage of them in some way.

3) To show respect for the other person's independence: Splitting the bill can be a way to show respect for the other person's independence and financial autonomy.

4) To avoid awkwardness or discomfort: Some men might feel uncomfortable with the idea of paying for the entire bill, especially if they are not sure if the other person is interested in them romantically.

5) To avoid seeming too forward: Paying for the entire bill can be seen as a gesture of romantic interest, and some men might want to avoid seeming too forward or coming on too strong on a first date.

Ultimately, the decision to split the bill or not is a personal one and can depend on a variety of factors, including cultural norms, personal values, and financial situations. It's important to communicate with your date about your expectations and to respect each other's boundaries and preferences.

[Anonymous]

Usually I let him pick up the check on a first date. It’s almost always the guy who invited me out and they almost always offer to pay. I don’t have a problem splitting it if he asks though. If the date goes well and I want to see him again, then the second date is on me and we can alternate who picks up the tab after that. That’s how I approach it. I think sometimes they ask to split the check because in today’s world, it’s not out of line to do that and you can’t be sure a first date is going anywhere or they think you might be offended if they treat you in an old-fashioned way. I went out with a guy once and he asked if I wanted to split the check. I told him that was fine with me. Then he says he never knows how to approach that because modern women sometimes get offended by traditional gestures. When I told him I understood but wouldn’t have been offended, he seemed relieved and then wouldn’t let me pay anything. I think our culture is kind of in a transitional place because of modern feminism and guys don’t always know what to expect.

[SaoirseS]

One guy college student + one girl college student = two broke college students. If he’s lucky he can scare up enough change from TV lounge couch cushions for one cheap meal, not two.

[AviatorTom]

I usually offered to pay for both of us on the first date. A few times, my date asked to split it 50-50, because she wanted to maintain her independence. I had no problem with that.

[CheeseMonster]

Maybe they want to go to a nicer place and its more affordable to split the bill? I can understand "why make it a principle thing" if it's just a few bucks, but when it's a full meal at a nice restaurant, well the economy isn't great right now. I can understand just thinking "let's split this so it costs less." Or so it feels like it costs less.

Anyway even with a few bucks, I don't usually assume who's paying. I'll ask in a way so they know who I'd prefer to pay, and they can agree or Vito it. But then that's just regular stuff, I've never actually dated so, I guess that could be a whole different ball park of social rules.

[coachTanthony]

This is why I made it a First Date. Hopefully people aren't going to super nice places on a first date.

[Lionman95]

I would say either because of personal insecurity for instance not being sure that they really want to date the woman in the future so they want to avoid wasting as much as possible.

The other option is that they brought her to a place where they can´t afford paying for all. So instead of opening up and tell her that they couldn´t afford certain meals and they don´t have the money to invite her they ask her to split the bill.

Third option they come a liberal/progressive background so for them a date is no special occasion it´s rather a meeting like any other with friends for example.

[Bricealan]

I always like to see a woman that is willing to split a dinner bill, or anything else for that matter. I have a woman friend from HS. that always splits the cost with me when we go out, and only wants the guy to pay if she is in a 'relationship' ?
A prior "friend" and I always split everything, especially when we traveled domestically or out of the country.

The women's movement changed things somewhat, but not in every case or with all women.
From my POV, a couple could DO MORE if they shared expenses. If you want to travel, especially out of the country, the cost is huge, and two could afford to do it more easily, but for a man, unless he is wealthy, would be hard pressed to afford that kind of dating experience.

My opinion only, Coach

[molonski2]

1. They know this is going to go nowhere.

2 . They realise she ain't ordering the " special of the day "

3 . She says to the waiter " Give me a bottle of your most expensive wine , swills it in her palette and says , Haven't you got anything better "

4 . She drives up in the latest Merc convertible.

Ohh , I could go on...

[coachTanthony]

Convertible. Wine. Check lol got it

[molonski2]

You got it bro ! can't tick your answer :)

[Fireguy17]

they might be tired of being used for a free meal.
It happens.
The woman isn't really interested in him but will tough it out for a meal, or her real date doesn't start until later so she finds someone that will go out to dinner with her.
It can take some of the expectations off of the table, like the guy is thinking that if I buy you dinner you will sleep with me.
It makes the "date" more casual.

[OfMiceandMen]

I she insists, then I have no problem splitting the bill. I am very easy going that way and not going to argue with her.

However, if I ask her out, it is on me. Small price to pay to get to know her and I get to see if she has the table manners of goat. LOL

[ritxi]

Maybe it doesn't matter for you to pay for everything because your economy allows it, but I prefer to split the bill or rotate about paying because I don't want to feel she is with me to get advantage of that and I prefer her to make important how things cost.

[genericname85]

well one big reason is cause they true believe in "equality" and that they are looking for a "partner", not a kitchen appliance.

[coachTanthony]

If she were a kitchen appliance which one would she be? LOL

[genericname85]

xD well obviously the one that does everything and at best just needs some addons. but seriously: i'm not mocking a traditional family model. i think it's a good way to signal that you wanna be traditional by payign for the girl or the girl expecting to be paid for.

if you want to be a more modern, emancipated "partner" though, expecting the man to pay your dinner is out of place.

[Jamie05rhs]

Because you have zero information. You don't know if she's a reliable investment. You don't even know if you want her or not.
And you also don't know what her intentions are.

[coachTanthony]

LOL you picking up strangers off the street?

[Jamie05rhs]

@coachTanthony Is that wrong? Lol

[Jamie05rhs]

(And you know I'm not. Come on, man. You know me. 😄 )

[coachTanthony]

LOL.

[coachTanthony]

Maybe in Thailand lol

[Jamie05rhs]

@coachTanthony How would it be any different in Thailand? You still don't know the person.

[coachTanthony]

No picking up strangers off the street in Thailand is what people do... hello? Boom Boom

[Jamie05rhs]

@coachTanthony Oh. Okay

[Static_In_The_Attic]

It’s simple & nowadays some dates are only there for FOODIE CALLS & FREE DRINKS & that could be a reason to split the bill or some dates are CHEAP & do $hit like that.

[RagnarRedbeard]

I pay for dates, but there was a time when I didn’t. It was less about being broke and not wanting to spend money, more about being paranoid about being taken advantage of.

When women get lied to and used by men, the men are trying to get sex from them. When men get lied to and used by women, the women are using him for money.

[blueonblack22]

I always pay for the first date but I intentionally keep it cheap. Never full dinner. My coffee and snack. Maybe drinks. But never full dinner on the first date.

[Likes2drive]

I would always pay the whole bill on the first date but women these days insist on splitting the bill.

[coachTanthony]

They do for sure.

[NathanDavis]

they spend the other half of the bill's money to pay for this dating advice... lol

[RavVid]

I like to pay as a gesture that I like her and see future possibilities. The males of many bonding species give a present. Male penguins give pebbles. Seems to work.

[IveGotNoName]

I don't believe that it should ever baselessly be expected that the guy pays on the first date in this day and age. Gender roles are no longer traditional for the most part, women go to school and get jobs, therefore men are no longer the bread winners, and men shouldn't be expected to pay for anything when women have the same circumstances now. It's not the 19th century anymore.

[HaveNoName]

1. Personal habit of tight handedness or stinginess on expenses.

2. Just the way they have been brought up.

Nothing to do with oh he doesn't love her or they are just friends etc etc..

[Dargil]

Not only do I pay for that Tenderloin, but I do not expect some tenderloin when I get her home. I guess I'm old fashioned early.

[Anonymous]

He had a lot more than she did, and he'll save money on a 50:50 split.

The date didn't go well so he doesn't give a shit what impression he's leaving.

The girl gave the impression she was treating him as a free meal ticket and he didn't like that.

There you go. 3 reasons.