Should a man pay on the first date or should it always be 50/50?

[coachTanthony]

Man pays always

50/50 always

[EmyyWolf]

Well unless doesn't like her sexually or is attracted sexually. Then he doesn’t pay.

A guy usually asks a woman on a date to sleep with her. The least he could do is pay for the date THAT YOU ASKED HER TO.

Why the absolute f-k would the girl pay for the date when you’re the one who asked her out?

you're the one who asked her for her time. And to top it all off you’re gonna say “yeah I can’t afford it you’re gonna have to pay your own food” 🤡

So why the fuck did you ask her out? 🤡To look broke? To show her how cheap and broke you are? 🤡 That’s what you asked her out for? 🤡 To completely turn her off and insult her? 🤡 Is that why you asked her out? 🤡

Ladies, do not pay some BS. You’re the one who determines wether the idiot gets to reproduce with you or not. You’re the one who determines wether that imbecile gets to be cloned or not. Wether the loser gets to go deep inside or not. Wether the degenerate gets to have access to your body or not.

The only reason to pay as a woman. Is if you’re asking HIM out, instead. If you’re the one inviting him. Otherwise don’t pay. NEVER PAY. And leave. Block, Leave, never look back. Because he’s showing you he’s completely broke and has no resources whatsoever to feed you or your offspring that he’s gonna help create. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[EmyyWolf]

@coachTanthony 🖕

[Zatsuma]

He at least better offer and not push the bill towards me or there won't be a second date.
However, If he pays and there are more dates following, taking turns is better than the 50/50 and there is never a need to keep count unless it becomes very obvious you seem to be the only one always paying.

[slatyb]

I hate keeping score in relationships, at least not explicitly. Of course we're all keeping track of whether we're getting back what we're giving, but not in dollars in cents.

[Anonymous]

Personally I pay. But I'd like to say that more than 50% of the time the woman has offered to pay. In other words I think this is ideal. I think the guy should pay, but the woman shouldn't expect and always be prepared to pay her share if need be.

I really shake my head that so may people make this a thing on the internet. Like I heard a guy the other day go so far as to say, "I always assume she's currently f***ing at least one other person. And I don't want to pay for her meal then have her say goodbye, collect her leftovers in a Doggie bag, take it to her f*** buddy, he eat the meal I paid for and then he f***s her". And I'm like "really"? I'm like if this is a constant issue for you then I think you're really not learning enough about the type of woman you're asking out before asking her out. I feel like alit of guys have so much animosity towards dating (which in this day is kind of understandable). That they simply don't want to concede anything. Even the cost of a meal. And my attitude is if that's the way you feel then you probably shouldn't date. Because it appears it's all bottom line to you. And if that be the case just buy a prostitute. I mean then you can be sure about what you're getting.

[Luopio27]

Ladies first :~)

[coachTanthony]

🤣🤣🤣

[jennifer_bloom]

Paying for somebody else should always be optional while paying for yourself should always be something you prepare for in case the other person does not pay. I think if you want to consider courtesy and not just basic rules - the person with double the net worth should pay for the person with half or one quarter the net worth of the person with high net worth. The rich person does not have to pay, but it's nice to pay. Just like you don't have to buy people birthday gifts but you do it anyway cause you think its a nice thing to do. I've paid for guys before, when they were still in school and jobless and and barely had enough to survive.

[OlderAndWiser]

For my generation, the guy pays 100% on every date. We never had disagreements or discussions on this topic and there are never any misunderstandings. And I can afford it so I don't care.

[AviatorTom]

Whoever asks other person out should offer to pay. The other person can agree, or they can go 50/50. The old rule where the guy always pays doesn't apply anymore.

[Anonymous]

Only simps pay.. Chad and Tyrone gets everything for free regardless of what that may be. If a woman is expecting some men to pay, while some other men aren't... then you should be asking yourself why. Men will never learn!

Imagine men said 'Whoever is asked on the date is the one that pays' women would laugh in your face... yet women always say 'Whoever does the asking does the paying'. As long as men continue being simps and allowing all of this one sided crap to go on they will get taken for a ride. Also note that a lot of women only go on dates for free dinners... that's what you get for being a simp!

[coachTanthony]

Chad and Tyrone exist but they make up 0.2% of the population. The only guys who are simps are the ones not smart enough to vet the woman for being a dinner plate spinner. It can be done.

[jshm2]

The initiator of the date should pay, be they man or woman is irrelevant.

it would be like your friend asking you to come visit them, but they're not paying for anything, nor letting you stay, and they might not even have time for you. Would you be happy to even go 50/50 in that?

[coachTanthony]

The initiator is the man 99% of the time so sorry but that doesn't really fly.

[EricSummer]

The man should pay and make the minimum fuss about it. If she wants to pay you can say that she could pay next time. However, if she insists on paying or sharing you go along with that as this can be just too much fuss about small matters. Maybe she wants to assert her independence.

Some women say if the man pays they feel pressured to give him their favors, even sex. Not sure why they would think that way. Nothing has been promised and this is not a commercial transaction. In addition, would they really be available for the price of a meal? It's an absurd thought for any self-respecting woman.

[dynamicyandere]

If it’s a romantic context, I prefer to pay.



I like to take care of who I’m with.


It’s a wholesome gesture.


Now, in a non-romantic context, I follow the standard etiquette of whoever asks is the one who pays. (If splitting the bill is a hassle. If it’s not a hassle, we can pay for our individual orders.)


This is all personal preference though.


I believe in today’s age, it’s always safe to not assume the other person is going to cover you. So, prepare for pay for your own meal as to not appear entitled.

[slatyb]

It's up to the couple. If I ask a woman out, I'm happy to pay. If she suggests splitting the check I'll just tell her that she doesn't have to do that and there's no future expectations. If it's obvious there's going to be a second date, then I just tell her she can get it when she invites me somewhere.

[slatyb]

When I was dating online, I started inviting women to dinner but eventually learned that was not a good idea and switched to coffee, lunch, or a drink. If there's a subsequent date, I will plan it and I will be happy to pay for it. If she earns considerably less than I do (most women), then I'm happy to pay most of the time.

[libsaretards]

50/50. MOST people are garbage, so finding love requires wading through garbage. Why waste money on garbage? Pay for yourself.

[coachTanthony]

Are you not vetting any of these women? LMAO

[libsaretards]

I am, but when so many are garbage, some scum slips through.

[slatyb]

That's funny. I must have met 30 women when I was dating online and they were
almost all perfectly nice. There was only one who egregiously lied about her appearance, posting a photo that was at least 10 years old when she was considerably thinner.

[Lionman95]

I think a man should at least be ready to pay especially if he made the move and asked her out. It´s a nice gesture to show her that you´re ready to invest in the relationship so I don´t like splitting the bill.

[Midnight_Kiss]

Unless preplanned and agreed, it should always be that you pay for yourself, women should not under any circumstances expect for the man to pay for the date, for two reasons:

1) If you hook up then you've effectively prostituted yourself.

2) If you don't see it leading to another date for whatever reason, then it's just common decency to pay your way.

[slatyb]

That's pretty much it, but if I have planned the date, I always pay unless she absolutely insists. I make it clear that I have no expectations.

[Nemesis2k7]

A date is not prostitition. You seem like fun at parties

[KatherineJ]

The asker should pay, unless previously discussed.

[coachTanthony]

Lol so the man

[KatherineJ]

Not always. I know plenty of women who have asked the man out.

[coachTanthony]

There’s always one offs in life lol

[MysteriousDarkness]

@KatherineJ
Most first dates between a man and a woman are initiated by the man.

[KatherineJ]

@MysteriousDarkness but don’t you think there are some women who are not waiting for the guy to ask?

[MysteriousDarkness]

@KatherineJ
Maybe a very small percentage of them.

[RobT312]

Guy should pay. I guess I’m a traditionalist when it comes to this

[ShesRad80]

for me 50/50, i pay my own way on a date

[Spongebobssocks]

50/50

I've never been to a date but I dont think resturuant thing is good idea.. sounds super awkward😂

[Kelly6]

youu are not alone

[Spongebobssocks]

@Kelly6 😄👍🏻

[slatyb]

it's fine for a first date if you've known the person a while. If you've just met, in person or online, and haven't had much conversation, it's better to start with something that allows a graceful exit, like coffee or a drink.

[Spongebobssocks]

@slatyb yeah Ill keep that in mind thank you!

[slatyb]

What I learned dating online:
1. Don't waste time texting. As soon as there is mutual agreement, set up a meeting. If the person won't agree to meet you, forget them and move on.
2. Don't make a big deal of the initial meeting. Meet for coffee or a drink. If it's not working it's easy to end it. It if it is, you can continue talking over lunch or dinner. I met my wife in a coffee shop. After we finished our coffee she asked if I wanted another. I said no, let's get some lunch. She says that she was terribly disappointed by that initial "no", even though the invitation to lunch followed immediately.

[Spongebobssocks]

@slatyb good tips! I'll keep that in mind thank you!

That is a sweet story, so she was your waiter?😊

[slatyb]

No, we met online. She sent me a message, I responded, we agreed to meet.

[Spongebobssocks]

@slatyb okay sweet! How long have you been married?:)

[slatyb]

About 7 years now. A few month after we met she found a wedding dress at a Goodwill for $10. It fit her perfectly so she bought it. A couple of years later she got to wear it, along with the J. Crew satin wedding pumps she found at a resale store for $1.99. They were on sale, 25% off so she got them for $1.49.

[Spongebobssocks]

@slatyb thats really sweet!😊

[sheikalana]

If he's the one who invited he should be the one paying. If not he should either offer to pay or 50/50.

[MysteriousDarkness]

@sheikalana
If you ask him out you expect him to offer to pay for everything or at least himself but if he asks you out you expect him to pay for everything. Basically you want him to pay regardless who asked who out.

[sheikalana]

@MysteriousDarkness I do not expect anything if we're just dating is just a preference. I appreciate chivalry.

[MysteriousDarkness]

@sheikalana
You said he should pay if he invuted you and if not offer to pay or 50/50. You never said you would offer to pay or 50/50 if he invited you

[sheikalana]

@MysteriousDarkness because I will never offer to pay 50/50. If I invite him I'm the one paying if he offers to pay I won't say no. If he invites me I will never offer to pay or go 50/50.

[MysteriousDarkness]

@sheikalana
How about the one doing the asking out pays
or you each pay for yourselves. Why do you want the guy to offer to pay if you ask him out but refto offer to pay if he asks you out?

[sheikalana]

@MysteriousDarkness yes, the one inviting should be the one paying but if I was on a date and the guy offered to pay I would not say no either. And again I DON'T WANT HIM TO OFFER but if he does I won't say no.

[MysteriousDarkness]

@sheikalana
That is another way of saying he doesn't have to offer to pay but I (you) hope he does so I (you) don't have to pay as much if at all. You taking the guys money without hesitation if he offered to pay when you planned the date means he wouldn't be good enough if he didn't offer to pay. This is just expectation hidden behind a facade you want to call a preference. This could be applied elsewhere. If you both wanted a room repainted and he started the work you wouldn't offfer to help but wouldn't refuse his offer to help if you started the work. The kicker is if he didn't offer to help you with the painting you would complain.

[electromagnetic]

I would not expect someone to pay on the first date. I’d rather do it simply because there will be no commitment or pressure to have another.

[musicbrain5]

On a first date, separate checks. Same for any other paid activity on a first date. Pay for yourself.

[Anpu23]

I've come to the conclusion that it's the person who invited the other should pay regardless of gender, or gender identity for that matter.

[Fireguy17]

To me it doesn't matter, it's more of a comfort thing for the woman.
Then there generally aren't any expectations, I bout you dinner so now...

[slatyb]

A gentleman has no expectations other than civility during the meal.

[Fireguy17]

@slatyb true, but those types seem to be far and few today