If women date men out of their league, then who do the high quality 10/10 women date? A 11/10 men 😃?

[marish01]

[SteveSmith1985]

You bring up a very valid contradiction to the notion that women date men out of their league. If women date men out of their league, then indeed who do the "highest rated" women date? Also... if men date out of their league... in general... that just suggests that he is actually dating in his league (since... he is dating the kind of girl that a guy like him usually dates... so even if she's "better" than him... this is necessarily STILL 'his league.')

So I mean, there's two really simple, logical contradiction to the idea that women date out of their league.

I'm not sure who is making this claim in the first place. But I don't think that this is a widespread belief. I would think, that whoever believes this might have to reconsider their view. It doesn't seem to make any sense.

[marish01]

Plus if women date men out of their league then taken men are superior to taken women.

[SteveSmith1985]

Yes, it would indeed also have that implication. I think though, that those who hold the belief that women date men out of their league... wouldn't see what you just said as a problem. That, to them, is not a contradiction. They would agree with this particular point.

But think about it... the guys women date are the guys in their league... if this is a widespread thing. If every girl who is a "6/10" dates guys who are an "8/10"... then that IS necessarily "her league." If this is what MOST of these girls end up dating... then it IS their league! Unarguably. By definition... it IS their league (since it's the 'caliber' of guy a girl like her gets... most of the time. This person just misjudges what her league SHOULD be).

[marish01]

If every women who are "6/10" date guys who are "8/10" then who do 8/10 women date?
6/10 men?

[DaveJord]

I love it when people want to apply some subject scale into the equation. What is the difference between a real 10/10 and someone who just thinks they are?

I have date physical 10s, but they were not 10/10. I think I am like a 6 or 7 / 10, but I am very much a 10/10 to someone, but then again that someone might be 3/10 to me.

I have not known a real genuine 10/10 in my entire life. So if you are talking about physical 10/10, don't even waste my time. Insecure women or people in general, can't handle genuine confident people... it triggers all their insecurities.

[Genie23]

There is no such thing as league. If you think he or she is out of your league basically it makes you undesirable in their eyes because confidence matters a lot in terms of attraction and interest.

[SweetTwistedSatanist]

Still the 10's. After all, the low quality women are still going to fail. So no panic there.

[Berethor]

10/10 women date man who also 10/10, unless women can get pregnant from God himself.

https://rudd-o.com/archives/female-hypergamy-in-a-single-chart/@@display-file/picture/The%20post-sexual-revolution%20sex%20dynamics.jpeg

[Guanfei]

Women WANT to date out of their league. Many can't. But still won't date lower.
The top men will still date top women, the rest of the women will just end up alone.
It's estimated that half of the women in the US will never find someone and never have kind, by 2030.

[Miristheiss]

Date?
I don't know about that.
Guys may sleep with some girls that aren't in their league but I don't know if they are dating or having a relationship.
Maybe in some circumstances but overall, on a grand scale I'd say the guys are just F zoning them.

[LiamJHayden]

Leagues are a defeatist's excuse for failure. Also, I have never seen a 10. Not once in my life. But the vast majority of people I encounter are delusional. Most people are close to average, which on a 1-10 scale is 5.5. I am a 5 on a good day.

[Jamie05rhs]

@LiamJHayden I have seen a 10 before. They are rare, but I have spotted them in the wild.

[LiamJHayden]

@Jamie05rhs Not me, and I literally live next to the beach.

[Jamie05rhs]

@LiamJHayden Hmm. That's interesting. 🤔. I'm not sure what to tell you, man.

[marish01]

You are right. I doubt an 8 exists.

[LiamJHayden]

@Jamie05rhs I think I use a more realistic scale than most. 1-10 scale, so average is 5.5. Most people are in the 4.5-6.5 range. Only the truly hideous would fall below 3, and only the truly stunning above 8. I have maybe seen a couple of 9's, but never one whom I thought was perfect, which is what a 10 would be.

[Jamie05rhs]

@marish01 You doubt your own existence? Lol

[marish01]

@Jamie05rhs more accurately I doubt the existence of girls like me 🤭

[Jamie05rhs]

@marish01LOL 😂

[motownplayer2000]

Lol there is no such thing as a 10 out of 10… no woman is perfect… and that’s a fact. No man is either. There is however a woman that is right for me and vise versa.

[loveslongnails]

Kind of a non-issue there's a real scarcity of 10/10 women OR 10/10 men. LOL I'm fairly certain most "out of their league" stuff occurs in the smaller numbers.

[RavVid]

Men have very different mate selection criteria than girls have. Your 10/10 woman might be invisible to men. I don't know how you are rating so can't say more.

[TallAnon]

I think you've been on the internet for too long 😁

[Anonymous]

They date the same men the other women already have.

[marish01]

Then they are not high value women

[Opinion Owner]

Define a high value woman?

[marish01]

At least 8/10 looks (face and body)
Kind, understanding, far from drama, helpful, selfless,
Charismatic, social, friendly, funny, witty, interesting
Doesn't swear, doesn't cuse, doesn't smoke, rarely or never drinks, loves kids, doesn't have male friends
Educated, smart, wise
Independent, not materialistic, generous
Values love, monogamy and intimacy.
Has 0 or very low body count

[Opinion Owner]

I define it simply as offering more value than the average person, keep in mind value works on a subjective dial. The person who gives more always has the most leverage.
However, someone can still be high value if they have a flaw/s. Even a girl cast as 3/10 can be a high value woman. Perhaps not the most coveted of the high value women but nevertheless offering more value than the norm. A girl who is 9/10 but has nothing else going for her could still be a high value woman in someones mind; typically the unwise. Great example of the subjective dial. My pencil/pen is worth a lot to a person who needs to sign a 8 figure contract in 2 mins and cannot obtain a pen anywhere else. Leverage. I suppose leverage and neediness (desire) are on a negative correlation scale.

[marish01]

But still the woman I described is high value compared to your 2 examples

[Anonymous]

They either date 10/10 men or they date other women. Or they don't date at all.

[marish01]

A straight woman

[noohair]

I don't grade humans like cattle. Every human life has the same value.

[Shy_Steve]

Well they would only be attracted to the 10/10 Men obviously.

[Anonymous]

The word for these women is not allowed on this site, but yeah they want a guy who does not exist

[Anonymous]

10/10 women generally don't date because they consider no man good enough for them.

[Chthou95]

They date men better than them or higher than them. Women will always date up

[alearningboy]

How do you see you're 10/10 men, what must he have like the best character?😊

[zagor]

Whoever they want.

[Strong_Warrior]

No, 10 point women date with 10 point men.

[Shamalien]

They date men at their level

[scooogy]

We both know that it's all relative 😉