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+1 yWe have unfortunately raised a generation of women who were raised with mindsets different from the older generations, that they can indeed sustain themselves and there is more to life than just men, whereas men were still raised with old notions of being "wanted" or "needed" for things that women can very easily provide for themselves or get them through other means than depending on a husband. Men who are struggling to adapt to these changes are blaming women for their misery.
Now they want to guilt trip women by saying things like "oh but you cannot be fully independent" no shit Sherlock, but if I make money I can afford my basic needs without anyone's help, I get my emotional needs met through meaningful friendships and building/joining communities... I'm a short and physically weak woman living by myself, I can stand on a piece of furniture to reach the top shelf, I can open a stubborn jar easily by just putting on my rubber gloves, and worst case scenario call a friend or even hire/pay someone if I can't do something on my own.
I love manly men and I can't imagine masculinity without adaptability. Any man who cannot adapt to the current dating scene in a world that's rapidly changing... are showing their own fitness in terms of evolution. Men have to adapt to the fact that women value different things in relationships now. They use so much evolutionary psychology mumbo-jumbo to guilt-trip women into submission when they are falling short themselves.
I'm fortunate to have a wonder boyfriend who I don't need but certainly want in my life and love every bit of time I spend with him. He's a great addition to my life, any time I stayed with a man because I thought I needed him was miserable and life is too short for that.
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lol right, that's why female happiness peaked in 1970 and plummeted recently, whereas male happiness has only slightly decreased.
women aren't happy, feminism lied to you - +1 y
@007kingifrit exactly
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@007kingifrit you sure about that? Recent studies show the opposite, single women without kids are actually the happiest demographic now.
www.psychologytoday.com/.../why-many-single-women-without-children-are-so-happy - +1 y
there is literally no research cited in this article at all. it is an opinion piece. you are SO UNEDUCATED lol to even link to this
let's try to look at all the research, not an opinion piece https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWx9GPJrrFg
i had a giant biblography of cited papers here but it was "too long" and I couldn't post it
Johnstone, M., & Lucke, J. (2021). The emotional impact of unfulfilled career aspirations for stay-at-home
mothers in Australia. Journal of Family Issues, 0192513X211030730.
Lalive, R., & Stutzer, A. (2010). Approval of equal rights and gender differences in well-being. Journal of
Population Economics, 23(3), 933-962.
McQuillan, J., Greil, A. L., Shreffler, K. M., & Tichenor, V. (2008). The importance of motherhood
among women in the contemporary United States. Gender & Society, 22(4), 477-496.
Stevenson, B., & Wolfers, J. (2009). The paradox of declining female happiness. American Economic
Journal: Economic Policy, 1(2), 190-225.
Suppes, A. (2020). Do women need to have children in order to be fulfilled? A system justification account
of the motherhood norm. Social Psychological and Personality Science, 11(7), 999-1010.
Zweig, J. S. (2015). Are women happier than men? Evidence from the gallup world poll. Journal of
Happiness Studies, 16(2), 515–541.
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www.psychologytoday.com/.../the-rise-lonely-single-men
www.forbes.com/.../?sh=609172e66a2b - +1 y
@007kingifrit ok let's look at each source.
Johnstone, M., & Lucke, J. (2021). The emotional impact of unfulfilled career aspirations for stay-at-home mothers in Australia. Journal of Family Issues, 0192513X211030730. : : clearly states how the "choice" of motherhood is influenced by society
Lalive, R., & Stutzer, A. (2010). Approval of equal rights and gender differences in well-being. Journal of
Population Economics, 23(3), 933-962.
McQuillan, J., Greil, A. L., Shreffler, K. M., & Tichenor, V. (2008). The importance of motherhood among women in the contemporary United States. Gender & Society, 22(4), 477-496.
Stevenson, B., & Wolfers, J. (2009). The paradox of declining female happiness. American Economic
Journal: Economic Policy, 1(2), 190-225. : this is literally just asking mother's vs non-mothers the importance of motherhood, this has nothing to do with what I addressed. No one is denying that taking care of children is important. I don't understand what's so revolutionary about mothers giving more importance to motherhood, like of course people who find having children more meaningful are more likely to actually have them, you need a study to know this obvious fact? - +1 y
Suppes, A. (2020). Do women need to have children in order to be fulfilled? A system justification account
of the motherhood norm. Social Psychological and Personality Science, 11(7), 999-1010. : Literally states that The fulfillment is greater in societies with higher level of gender inequality, meaning that if you take social scrutiny and the mental torture that women face when they don't have children in these societies will obviously cause more misery for them. You don't need to look at a study to know this, you just need to grow up in a culture like that. I have and I saw plenty such examples in my own life. Leave childless women alone.
Zweig, J. S. (2015). Are women happier than men? Evidence from the gallup world poll. Journal of
Happiness Studies, 16(2), 515–541. This provides no information on how exactly they recorded the data and what sample size they had, the information is completely restricted and not enough to evaluate.
It's good that you learned to cite sources, maybe you should sometimes read them and actually evaluate them too. - +1 y
You didn't avoid citing the sources because the message was too long, you avoided it because you had none and copy pasted the first things you found on Google.
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"I don't understand what's so revolutionary about mothers giving more importance to motherhood, like of course people who find having children more meaningful are more likely to actually have them, "
if mothers were unhappy we would see them place lower emphasis on motherhood, which they don't do - +1 y
no if your source list is too long they won't let you post on here, the video contains 100s
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@007kingifrit did you look at those 100 sources? Because I looked at the ones you mentioned and none of them necessarily prove the point you're trying to make. You just learned the word "sources" online to make yourself sound smarter and thought that will do it. Listen there are people who actually study how to filter out reliable sources in college and know how to look at research papers with forget scrutiny instead of thinking "if it's an APA formatted source containing graphs and all this must be right"
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with further* scrutiny
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you looked at a few, when you put them all together they say more than the individual studies. yea i read them all
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@007kingifrit yeah right you read all 100 of them... And yet the ones you showed were all lackluster. Out of all 100 that you have seen and read if you picked those the others aren't any better either.
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none of them were "lackluster" you just decided they were by only reading them and not taking any others into context
i read them all years ago when i was given the subject "happiness" to study as my final project in college, everyone got a random topic to research to exhaustion and that was mine - +1 y
@007kingifrit if you studied them that extensively then why are you failing to explain/summarize them yourself?
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i did actually, you just didn't like my summary
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@007kingifrit I'm still looking for the summary...
Your only response was on the motherhood study where you said that if mothers were unhappy they would give less importance to motherhood, when you're ignoring what I said about how it's women to whom motherhood is already important in the first place that are becoming mothers, so my point still stands. - +1 y
i think my first comment sums it all up... my literal first one
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@007kingifrit nope, that's not a summary.
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+1 yBecause it irks them that a woman doesn't need a man to feel fulfilled or happy- even if it's not said guy that's telling you that. The same ones spouting that nonsense are usually miserable in their marriages, relationships, or have been rejected so much, they're taking their misery out on YOU because you're happy single [Basically misery loves company].
I find it ironic some people are bothered by women being single, yet no one says a word if a guy is single for his entire life. If anything, they get called a "bachelor," or it's considered a compliment that he isn't settling down.
Women get called a "spinster," "cat lady," or it's instantly assumed something is wrong with her if she's single for too long or chooses to be single-
See the issue there? But that's another rant.
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Same girl, same... trying to move into a new house so I can get a dog. At least they're loyal and don't judge you, LOL
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@cth2188 Who’s calling you out for being single? I’ve never had any of my friends complain about women like this, unless she’s crazy.
@Cynicaldreamer Men and women aren’t the same and women who are single after a long period of time aren’t typically mentally stable from my experience, but I wouldn’t call them out on it unless they asked. - +1 y
@Cynicaldreamer it isn't good to be without being judged. it helps you have a good life to be held away from your worst behaviors.
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@cth2188" I'm mentally stable just not to deal with men anymore with seeing how the dating world is - not signing up for that not now or ever" ... So you are lonely, miserable, and hurt?
Also, please stop with the double standard fallacy type of argument - I understand if you're in the early or mid 20s, (90% of the time is always coming from them), but you're in your mid 30s now. - +1 y
Being single is a choice- dating is a choice- getting married is a choice and yeah dating is too toxic and modern / too much work and risking yourself. I've done the work on myself many of the men who approach me have not. Not enough respectful men nowadays- programmed to movements, misgony , sexism.. not traditional just abusive... I don't have time for toxic males and how dating is nowadays
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@cth2188 I'm not sure if you're replying to me, but if you are: that's fair, but how do you think modern day men became the way they did? I'm friends with quite a few successful mid 20 year old guys and a lot of them live in a cynical type world and I think both modern day Feminism and social media are the cause because men have not changed, we still want to protect, but women have to give us a reason to - how would you feel if men went around saying I don't need a woman and be a boss man, but expect women to date or settle for you when you make minimum wage when that's not what women want?
Most women want t a man who is making money, tall, handsome, etc. Your standards specifically may be different, but the dating world isn't easy. I've been through things you couldn't imagine, so I empathize. Lick your wounds and when you're healed, back into the fray! Life is too short!
Lastly, I'd advise staying away from Anon1903 - she blocks people if they disagree or even give a rational conversation like we're having now. She's in that "I hate all men" phase part of her life. - +1 y
I don't think most women care nowadays because they been messed over by too many men and marriage doesn't benefit women. I'm traditional and you wouldn't catch me in the dating arena so I proposedly made myself unavailable and busy. Women collectively are healing and doing them. I think we spoken now our silence has spoken.
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@cth2188 So debating you or trying to understand your POV is harassment now? What are you, a Feminist? Absolutely - you nailed us men, we're definitely scared of you women who are too weak to get back into the fray - no wonder men are stronger - sop projecting LOL.
You don't want to ever come back into the dating world, that's your choice, I don't care, even though this whole post is living proof of the dual nature of a woman's emotional thinking process (saying one thing, but doing the exact opposite later on). You'll be back soon enough. - +1 y
Totally, that's why we men fight your wars and fight for you, die for you, suffer for you (at least outside of Western borders) (there were studies done that show women in power are more likely to start wars than men do - the funny thing is that most women in my family are successful and they have a belief that behind every war, there's a woman pulling the strings).
Anyhow, healing is part of the process as I'm sure you know. Then afterwards, we'll see if you still share the single mindset and if you do, great, but I'm not counting on that because you're a homo sapien like me. - +1 y
Right, you're so content to be single. . . . Which is why you made a post about it online and are now arguing with men about it who don't agree. . . . . Because you're so content. . . . . .
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If you were really okay by yourself , you wouldn't need to announce it to the world and argue with people who can CLEARLY see you're not.
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These are more feminist memes than anything else. The most frequent ones appear to be 1. Men are offended by women being single 2. Men are offend by women saying they don't need a man which is broadly point 1 anyway and 3. Men are intimidated by 'strong independent' women.
The fact of the matter is that we don't give a damn on points 1 and 2. Why is you being single and wanting to be single any skin off my nose? I really don't give a damn. I'm not interested in you and you're not interested in me - good, that's that sorted & done then.
Similarly, I don't give a damn if you have had or have not had children. In fact I'm glad there are not more children I'm sponsoring through my taxes - thank you for not doing so.
Equally I don't care if you say you don't need a man, though I'd rather not see a woman amputate the tip of her finger in attempting to demonstrate that. I do find it amusing that there is an entire franchise dedicated to that market locally. It's called 'Hire a Hubby'. Funny. You are quite welcome to hire them in my view. Don't give a damn and don't see why I should.
Then there is the meme of us being intimidated by strong independent women. Well no we aren't, we are just not interested in you is all. It is code for not being collaborative (which is the minimum requirement). There is a lot of difference to you being invisible and us being intimidated.
Women transpose and invert a lot. An awful lot. The last few paras (aside from the memes) are coming from that angle it seems to me. The only people I have heard use the term "spinster" or "cat lady" or express concern regarding a single friend are females. Spinster as a word is really out of circulation now. - +1 y
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[Totally, that's why we men fight your wars and fight for you, die for you, suffer for you (at least outside of Western borders)]
there's no valid study done my any LEGITAMATE research organization that proves female rulers start wars more than male rulers. Some random article written by an anonymous misogynist doesn't count as legitimate research.
But there is plenty of evidence that men tend to be more violent, aggressive, and commit more crime, abandon their children- from MANY LEGITATMATE sources.
Vast majority of wars throughout history are STARTED BY MEN , including the wars TODAY. Women don't start wars, so women don't need to fight them. - +1 y
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1, University of Chicago
- www.dailymail.co.uk/.../...ely-wage-WAR-males.html
2,, WION - Indian based news
- www.wionews.com/.../men-or-women-who-gets-into-wars-more-493472
2. Majority of violence committed by men are done on other men.
- https://menscenter.org/men-and-violence/
Thanks for playing - run along back to your nobody misandrist cave little girl. - +1 y
@Cynicaldreamer i donno which world are you living in...
Firstly, the one's judging women for staying singles are the other women in the society in most cases...
Secondly, it's not easier for men either to stay single... people do talk about them as well and maybe more... i've chosen to stay single and i know what people say about me...
so it isn't gender specific... people who wanna talk will talk about you... - +1 y
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@Rohaan2020 I think most of us don't care anymore- thank you for sharing this @nastyb I just women to heal , grow, and evolve from here.. the amount of trauma women experienced from men can't be repaired overnight.. it's best women focus on themselves and HEAL
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there weren't enough female rulers all throughout history to conclude that they're more likely to start wars...
Comparing 8 female rulers to 800,000 male rulers is a very unfair way to generalize all female rulers.
As far as research is involved, men are significantly more likely to be violent and commit crimes than women. Majority of violence is committed by men on other men because men are more likely to join gangs, get into vicious fights, commit crimes. All of these characteristics of men do not support that females are more likely to start wars. - +1 y
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throughout history, women have never inflicted trauma on anyone. Its men who caused the vast majority of the destruction in the world and it continues to today.
take a look at how many men abandon their kids leaving single moms to raise. take a look at crime data, men commit vast majority of sexual crimes, molestation, robberies, murders. Women don't do this kinda stuff. - +1 y
@nastyb No, you're making a generalized statement, along with @cth2188 that somehow all women are victims and binary conclusions that men are the cause, all the while INTENTIONALLY ignoring the amount of lives men have also saved by preventing wars, technological development, the rise of A. I, nuclear deterrence, democracy, cars, airplanes --- you know the stuff that you girls take for granted everyday, all the while shitting on us for everything little thing we do wrong -- you sound like a typical woman.
Also, in regards to your inability to see the inference: 8 vs 800,000 rulers comparison, what the study concluded (you know, the one from top 5 universities from the entire world), that the management style is vastly different. You, including society somehow thinks that women in charge will be better when in reality your argument is just as irrelevant because there's only been 8 rulers. Fun fact: women have inflicted quite a bit of damage such as Katharine the Great (enjoyed beheading people and starting wars), Elizabeth Bathory (bathed in killing virgin girls blood), and many more. We just don't talk about them enough like we don't with female scientists who performed great achievements BECAUSE IT GOES AGAINST THE CURRENT MARKET NARRATIVE.
Also, here in the USA, it's women who divorce men at a far higher rate then men divorce their women. Once again, most violent crimes are done by men on other men, so once again it's just as irrelevant and the justice system is on your female side by the way - I say this to you as a law school graduate.
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The ultimate inference you should have gotten is that women are in no more position to claim innocence or be the aggressor than men should because behind most wars, there's a woman pulling the strings and dumb (aka SIMP or nice guys) men fall for it every time.
Many of y'all modern day Gen Z women and even some millennial women aren't looking at history from all angles and would rather use your pain as an excuse to be like a raging misandrist like a KKK racist who blames everything on half the planet (3.5 BILLION men) because that's the easy thing to do. Then, you start forming these collectivist groups (Feminists for example) assuming that all women are victims without understanding everything is case by case.
At the same time, I can't blame you entirely because humans are tied to their emotional experiences, but where I do place the blame is when like those crazy KKK, Nazis, Feminists, MGTOW, etc push forward into blaming and starting protests and invading other people's lives with their beliefs. - +1 y
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the founders of KKK were all men.,
www.google.com/search - +1 y
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Its hard to believe that females are more likely to start wars when FBI data shows...
97% of all rapes are committed by men
Almost 90% of murders are committed by men.
again, there are too few female rulers all throughout history. You can't let 8 female rulers determine what the entire female gender is like. - +1 y
@cth2188 And yet, there are also women commenting on here. SMH If you're calling me a SIMP, Ms. Misandrist, I'm going to ask you to please don't breed - the world has enough problems.
@nastyb Yeah, I saw this coming. Just like with the Feminists, they make so many assumptions about life and gender roles. You're making a HUGE assumption that these average janes and joes on the street are equivalent to those in power. If you've ever been in a leadership position (which I know you probably haven't), the stress and requirements to govern can be enormously difficult.
There is naturally a lot power (think of the President, Congress, head of the FBI, etc). With that power allows people to perform actions that the average jane or joe cannot do. In other words, the environment is completely different. Could you compare the environment of Queens, NY to Beverly Hills, CA? Of course not, one is the hood, whereas the other is the super rich. Could you compare a college student to a judge in the court room? Of course not, a judge has the power to throw you in jail and get you arrested, whereas a college student has very little political power.
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@nastyb With the men vs women argument, what the study shows (AGAIN) that when women were given power equivalent to men, they were just as likely at minimum to behave just like men (in this case start wars or be cruel ------ because they were in a power position to start those wars, etc)
You can quote statistics all day at me (only 3% of men in the USA are actual rapists, only 0.003% of men in the USA are murders, and there are MANY more female rulers apart from that study), but you're quoting these statistics and punishing the majority for the actions of the few? Should I go around and be all butthurt like @cth2188 because a few women burned me in my past?
Pain is not one sided, so many men, including myself also have been through it with the opposite sex, but so many women and others think that somehow only one sex suffers and the others do not.
Lastly, the KKK example was to point out that their thinking was virtually the same as today with many SJW, Feminists, MGTOW, --- aka binary, linear, black and white, etc or how racists think. Oh and there were female KKK members LOL - +1 y
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ok. if men were less violent them women, so 97% of all rapes are committed by men?
why are 90% of murders committed by men?
studies have proven that men are more likely to join gangs, use guns, kill, rob, stab and also ABANDON THEIR CHILDREN
[Lastly, the KKK example was to point out that their thinking was virtually the same as]
did you know the KKK was also started by men?
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@nastyb Are you willfully refusing to read English in order to win an argument you are losing or are you really not getting the inference? You're doing what we men call "sign language" where you pick on the minor probabilities (even astronomical ones) and use it to project the "crisis" of our times. I JUST said that those statistics are pointless because you're equating 3% of the population and making A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS that it is directly correlated when men are in power.
The environments are NOT the same. You going around like @cth2188 whining that the world is unfair and women are all innocent angels and all men are the cause of my pain are not mirrored by female judges, lawyers, leaders, Prime Ministers, etc whose job it is to look at the world differently. Should I start saying you are equivalent Aileen Wuornos (she's a female serial killer by the way)? A psychopath's mindset/brain damage and horrific upbringing was (hopefully) not your own. Should you ever get into a position of power, does your gender have influence on how you think? Or does it simply have to do with your values and did you come from a good family? Does your IQ play a role? Or was it simply circumstances that allowed you to become violent and show your true colors? Or was it that you were forced because of the politics in play?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiG8Bud_ZjY
You need to stop abusing statistics and you're so called "studies" as assertions because you're thinking like those so called racists folk. A small percentage of men behaving a certain way does not equate to all other men. In other words, since I am a man, I am automatically guilty of violence in in your world? If I'm black, does that mean I'm automatically a criminal now? SMH
Did you also know that women joined the KKKs ---- you know, a violent and racist group?
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+1 yTwo reasons:
1. By choosing to die alone she has also made that choice for the man she would have otherwise been with in a sane, non-feminst society. Most men want marriage and families and they are selfishly screwing them over. The 1 in 3 men who are sexless see women choosing a lonely death over them and many take it personally.
2. Society isn't set up for a large number of singles spending their lives alone as the family unit has always been the building block of every successful civilization. Before civilization a small number of top alpha males would mate with most of the women leaving the majority with nothing and no incentive to contribute to society. Marriage was invented to give these men who would otherwise die alone as virgins an incentive to contribute. As this incentive disappears, the men who do the difficult, low-paying but necessary jobs that keep the comfortable modern society you enjoy running will drop out and civilization will crumble as guys won't spend their lives mining coal, digging ditches, or picking up trash if they are going to die as virgins. A new Dark Age will be upon us and you will not like it; you probably won't even survive it and if you did you won't like what comes after.
So go right ahead and keep selfishly screwing over men and destroying society, I hope your lonly deaths are worth it.
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3.1K opinions shared on Dating topic. Because most men in general our territorial over a girl he is really interested in , if she doesn’t want to commit to him or be in a relationship with him he will assume she is just whoring around , sadly those guy’s need to realize they don’t own a girl some people get into relationships thinking they own you and that’s where most relationships fall apart you don’t own anyone , Relationships our a choice , you can choose to be in a relationship with someone and you can choose to walk away as well , If a girl wants to remain single that is her choice , I can only give to a girl the same way I want to receive period. If she chooses to walk away , I will not chase her cuz we can not force someone to love us period. When you learn to value your self worth and learn to treat people the same way you want to be treated that’s where respect comes into play , without respect you have nothing , I only show interest in girls that know what it means to be in a relationship and knows how to respect in a relationship, if she chooses to cheat or walk away from me then that’s her choice , don’t think I am going to be sitting here waiting for her to change her mind , my ass is going for the girl standing behind her
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1.2K opinions shared on Dating topic. Men are upset when women choose to be single? Can't say I've ever heard about a guy being moved by that. Or at least, it doesn't matter to me. If a woman actively wants to be single, I just don't try and move on to the next.
However, I do also know that many women will lie to a guy they're not interested in and say they want to be single or that "they're not looking for anybody right now," when they actually are or they're in a fuckbuddy situationship with some guy.
Other than that a woman who actively wants to be single doesn't hurt me or take anything away from me or my life. She may be robbing herself of a future with someone special, but she's not robbing me.
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You specifically said "Why are men upset when women choose to be single."
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"many women will lie to a guy they're not interested in and say they want to be single or that "they're not looking for anybody right now," when they actually are or they're in a fuckbuddy situationship"
It's perfectly reasonable to not want to be in a relationship while also wanting to have some fun thus having someone you're dating casually. I've done that when I didn't feel ready for a relationship and I'm still happy that I did that because I had fun obviously but also the casual encounters taught me a lot about what I actually want when I do get into a relationship, and growing some experience and confidence along the way. I'm in a relationship now and I wouldn't have felt ready for a boyfriend had I not known what I want in one to begin with. - +1 y
In some cases women are ok by themselves @CubsterShura I don't do casual hookups etc
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Yeah duh, I am okay by myself too and would have been without any of this too. I didn't casually date guys because I would be miserable without it, but because I wanted to.
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Yes and a lot of other stuff as well. That is the sudden realization I got from this question and the female responses.
If you don't know that women like putting you into a damned if you do and damned if you don't cleft stick then you haven't known many. women. Or even your own mother.
I'm now quite willing to write off the whole of feminism as one long duration pysch op. The correct response is not to care or respond to the cleft stick.
I have to thank cth2188 et al for showing me this.
2K opinions shared on Dating topic. Literally no one cares AS LONG AS she doesn't complain about how she can't find her a man (because she's exclusively targeting the top 0.01% of men, who don't want her), and as long as she isn't expecting men to do favors or save her. Women who don't do those things aren't on anyone's radar. They can go be alone in peace.
It's the tens of thousands of women on TikTok, IG, Tinder, etc. who shout that they are "strong and independent" and "don't need no man", but also complain endlessly about men and dating and bemoan that men don't treat them like the princess they are, are the ones who guys (and even some girls) go after, because they are clearly hypocritical.10 Reply1.7K opinions shared on Dating topic. Not all men will get upset if you want to stay single. It’s only when you led them on or gave them false hopes without intentions of dating them later on once you’re done chasing whatever you’re chasing…
23 Reply16.5K opinions shared on Dating topic. Most people don't care when someone chooses to be single, and honestly it shows you aren't trying to force things and want to live your life.
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+1 yI believe in free will and you can do what you want. But I also believe you are accountable for your decisions. If you ultimately make yourself miserable in the process it’s on you.
There are lots and lots of young women who don’t want to get married, don’t want to have kids and just don’t want to commit anymore. But they will get older. Sure you can try fertility treatment or adopt. But it’s not as easy as doing it the traditional route.
The thing is Mother Nature intended to bound men and women together for both companionship and reproduction purposes. That’s not to say everybody should get married and have kids. But when you voluntarily avoid that there you are denying yourself something that Mother Nature intended.
It is usually women who have the power to date, sleep with, marry and have kids with a man. They have the power dynamic in the relationship. The only time they don’t have it is when they try to date and marry a man out of their league. But they usually have an advantage of their male counterpart when all else is equal.
So they decide to single hence making more men single. Men are hit with the pain first because they have fewer options when all else equal. But is a woman making herself happy by being intentionally lifelong unmarried and childless? Is that what Mother Nature intended for her?
00 Reply 332 opinions shared on Dating topic. The only time I've ever been upset by that is when I was crazy about this girl and she knew it and accepted it, but she said she wanted to be single. Which I respected. The issue was that she still expected me to do all these s/o things like taking her to and from work, driving her all over the place, buying her things, expecting me to drop everything and be there anytime she called. And if I ever showed any sort of reticence, she'd get all sad and sometimes even cry, knowing that I couldn't stand seeing her cry and would do anything. Like I remember one time, I missed her call because I was at the hospital for a pre-op appointment for a surgery that I needed to have done. Then I got a voicemail from her crying, begging me to come get her. I up and walked out of the appointment, postponing it another week and drove like a bat out of hell to her house. Turns out she just got into an argument with her mom and wanted to leave. I had an infection that was literally killing me, which she knew about and it just wasn't even on her radar. And still at every turn she insisted she just wanted to be single, my dumbass thought if I showed her that I was fully committed to her, that maybe she might reciprocate my feelings.
Sorry for the novel, I'm in feels and your question hit me. Though I fear I defeated the purpose of your question with my tirade, and for that I apologize.12 Reply- +1 y
This is why you should never simp. If she isn't fucking you she shouldn't get a dollar of your money or a minute of your time.
I've known two relationships that have been strong since age 14 until now. So far they had About 12 years together, as lovers, best friends and have become eachothers family. It's fucking rare and unfortunately most of us with never know that type of love and will experience heart break. Disney love is of course bullshit, but being emotionally invested and loving someone can definitely last a lifetime for some people. We are all weak in our own ways and it's sounds like your afraid to show your vulnerability. Say that you feel sick (very sick) Someone that loves you will will nurse you back to health and genuinely want you to feel better. Your job doesn't care about you, most of your friends don't care about you and strangers could give to shits about you. A well chosen partner will laugh with you, cry with you and want you to be happy and certainly care about you. Children need two loving parents and family support to grow into mentally stable adults, prisoners are significantly more likely to have been raised by a single mother. You may not like it, but statistically men and women are lonelier then ever. Both sexes are designed to complement eachother and I still personally believe that love is an extremely important human experience.
10 Reply1.9K opinions shared on Dating topic. I'm in the mood for playing devil's advocate on this one.
I can say amatonormativity but nah. Let's see their from the male perspective:
- because they want off springs, you know, sowing seeds and all.
- because regular sex is a good perk.
- because males get lonelier. The male best friend I have is probably more responsive than the girl besties they got (I said probably).
- society treats marriage as milestone lmao.
- their guy friends have reached that age where they priortize family over friends.
- they don't fit in because they're the oldest in their office and still not "snagged anyone".
- they're hopeless romantics.
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+1 yBecause Boys have been programmed from early childhood to believe that men are the sole providers of women and that women need them to protect them and care for them so when they see a single mother who is not financially unstable it throws them off because according to them a single mother must be suffering financially and somehow spiritually so the boys feel that these women need them to make the women whole. They are led to believe that kids need both a man and women role models and not just a single parent which is false. So they become angry because these Boys are not getting what their church and culture told them what they are entitled too and now they are bitterly pissed off that they have to compromise and treat women as equals.
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Your welcome, I grew up in the republican and evangelical communities and they are both equally misgonyistic and homophobic and racist so I dare anyone who is republican and evangelicals to tell me I don't know what I'm talking about.
+1 ySeems like a weird entitlement thing. I've only experienced this somewhat personally, but seems to happen with any woman who isn't with a straight man. Like when people say diversity quotas steal jobs from white men n shit like that. Those aren't ur jobs, we aren't ur women. Sorry being single may not be a "choice" for u but that doesn't mean being in a relationship shouldn't be a "choice " for everyone. Nobody should be forced or pressured into a relationship they don't want just so that u don't have to feel lonely.
Nobody forces u to be single. U are automatically single. Stop trying to force women into relationships.
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No if the girl straight away on the first day say that i am not interested in relationship then i would have respect for her.
But if she giving the hints that she is interested in me and would behave in this. And when asked she would start behaving distant then she would loose her respect.22 Reply- +1 y
that happened to me with 2 ladies. they pretended interest to get a free meal then said "i am too busy to date". that was a mean trick.
If it's a specific guy, he probably has feelings for you and is frustrated that he's not going to get a chance.
If we're talking about the trend you can find on the internet of single guys ranting about women choosing to be single, then it's because they feel like women aren't valuing them and they won't have a chance at a relationship themselves. They don't just have to feel threatened by other guys, but by the other things in a woman's life that she's valuing over them. It's pretty much just a bunch of insecurities and prejudices piled into a ball of anger and misogyny. Ignore it, real dudes aren't like that.
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yWhy are men upset when women choose to be single?
- Because they’re, insecure, weak, pathetic, broke, losers.
- Probably have a pinky-finger 🤏 for a D-K 🍆.
- Probably can’t sexually satisfy a woman.
- Probably are ugly, obese or unattractive so they can’t sexually compete with other men.
- Probably they’re broke and have no money saved up, no career. No car of their own.
- Probably has no testosterone so he has no manhood.
10 Reply5.9K opinions shared on Dating topic. I personally don't care if you want to be alone then be alone you have that right. Just make sure you know what the long reaching consequences are for the actions you take and don't complain about it later when you have a change of heart.
And that statement isn't aimed at women in particular but everyone in general, always weight the costs to the benefits and what the possible long reaching consequences of your actions will be down the line and make sure your fine with it before you make that choice as we all should do when it comes to the future.
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+1 yNot once in my life have I known or even heard about a man who was upset if a woman wanted to be single.
In the past it was common for some people to think that everyone had to get married, or at least be in a relationship. I suppose there are still a lot of people like that. But I never heard of anyone getting upset about it. They just don't understand it. These are usually people who can't imagine being alone and believe everyone else is the same. This goes for both men and women. Actually it seems like it's a lot more common for women to be the ones always trying to set people up - they just can't stand seeing someone whose not in a relationship.
But seriously, I've never known anyone to get upset.
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+1 yMen don't like the idea that they can't convince you to fuck them.
Same reason drives why they get upset lesbians don't want to fuck them. They don't understand "I don't want you and nothing you do will make me", and they struggle with letting go.22 Reply- +1 y
@provokeesmokee I like your answer and logic, but not sure that men are upset "when women choose to be single". BUT I think they are upset for the reasons you describe. Women fuck WHO THEY WANT, . but men fuck WHO THEY CAN, and they are pissed because they can pick and chose who they can fuck.
Does that make sense?
1.3K opinions shared on Dating topic. I'm not upset about it , and I'd say that I admire women who choose to be single , shows they have a lot of stuff going on and are making some good choices , I think the opposite from what I see , too many jumping in to that in which they should not be jumping.
Good luck to you.
20 Reply710 opinions shared on Dating topic. My kids haven’t had children yet and it may not happen even though each is successful and highly educated. I think they are selfish and lazy in this regard. In strictly business terms, they were a waste of my time and resources if they do not produce children and families. They are here to further our DNA line at the most basic primal level. I could have done what they are doing and they wouldn’t be here.
My life has been great and I am happy and have been successful in all aspects, career, family, financials, adventures, marriage and more. But the best thing has been family which means children. It’s my life’s work which is why I will pester them to have families of their own. If they don’t have them, they are cheating themselves out of something great and leaving that one part of my life empty which would be grandchildren.
00 ReplyWho gets upset at that?
My feeling is that unless she can be single, she can't be a mother either.
All those males and females who are always in a group or a relationship just to not be alone seem inept to me: if you have to be in a group of people to function, how will you ever be a competent parent?
Even regarding (heterosexual) relationship forming, anything other than a single guy to a single girl seems very odd (any level of his or her 'friends' (more often frenemies)) is usually simply an obstacle, a hindrance, that each person is meant to overcome on her own, not by continuously relying on others who then guide and steer her relationship and marriage 'rights'.
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+1 yI think this question is too simple to really get at whatever it is you are trying to ask. I’ve never heard of a man being even remotely upset by a woman being single. In fact, quite to the contrary, going someplace with a lot of single women is often a goal! Perhaps you can explain what it is you mean further?
01 Reply 2K opinions shared on Dating topic. I'd guess it is more to do with rejection than anything.
I presume they are asking you out rather than asking you if you want to be their girl friend right from the get go. So it isn't at the point of a relationship or anywhere close. I don't see how it can be at the point of men being upset with your desire to be single.
I'm interested in what the circumstances are that makes you think they are upset you are electing not to form relationships.
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+1 yWhy would I be upset with women choosing to be single? Their choice, and maybe an opportunity for me to get a free relationship like "friends with benefits"... More seriously I don't understand why women should not be allowed the free choice of being and remaining single.
00 Reply13.6K opinions shared on Dating topic. Why would a man get upset at that? You're telling him. "This game piece isn't in play". Actually I'd think a guy would appreciate the heads up to the fact that he doesn't have to waste any effort on that woman.
Maybe because she's not really choosing to be single? Maybe she gives off signals she wants guys to approach her and then when they do she tells them she's not interested? I think that would annoy anyone, male or female.
20 ReplyPersonally I don’t care and I don’t think most men care if a woman chooses to be single but I think men are frustrated with how much women don’t realize they control the dating market. I’m all for people taking time to be single and learn about themselves. A lot of women equate most if not all men to the men they choose to date and then when it doesn’t work out or that man treats her poorly then it’s pretty typical for her to think all men are out to do the same.
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+1 yUsually it's the opposite from my experience. Men will want something not serious and short term and women will complain about him not committing or asking her to marry them. I personally had to break up a friend with benefits situation because she started telling people we were in a relationship, even though I told her we were just friends.
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Well yeah, it's better to friend zone a guy than lead him on. That would be cruel. If you friend zone a guy and he still follows you around it's his own dumbass fault for chasing a girl that don't want him
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I just wish people could be upfront with their intentions at the beginning so no feelings get hurt. Like when I left my friends with benefits she was shocked but I literally told her we are just friends.
+1 yAs you said in the updated section of your topic, I think it is societal conditioning. Media tells us “there’s someone for everyone.” Blah blah. I know because I thought like this before. It’s to sell products. I never thought being single was ok for anyone. But now I see it is more than ok for many people, including the ones who want a partner extremely badly. I was like that, and nothing in the real world made sense. Now it does.
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+1 yI think it's because they got rejected. Rejection hurts, some get angry. The more they want you, the bigger the blow.
Or they're one of the "modern women" hating men who dread the line "I am single, strong and independent."
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+1 yBecause broads are so damn hard to come by, as it is and then YOU go and take yourself COMPLETELY out of the running by choosing to get married, stay single or become a lezzie or a nun and that takes more of you out of circulation! How's a guy supposed to get laid if there's no pussy around?
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+1 yI don't know any men who'd be upset about it... i myself believe that in today's time its better to be single for both men and women... it makes life so much easier
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+1 yI dont!
I choose to be single myself. so I dont see why I would get mad if women choose to be single, I think the dudes that do get mad over this do so because it screws their chances of wanting to be in a relationship with those specific women that choose to be single
00 Reply416 opinions shared on Dating topic. Some men are. You'd be surprised but women are upset as well if you tell them you don't want a relationship.
11 ReplyI dont know any man that is upset at a woman for wanting to be single, I can understand if he had asked her out and she said no thst he'd be a little irritated like what's her problem but it wouldn't last hed complain to a buddy over some beers s that would be the end of it and he move on to the next one
Me personally doesn't bother me at all its her life she can live it how she wants to10 Reply
+1 yI wouldn’t say they are all like that. They are if they wanted a shot with you though. Or are trolls.
10 Reply2.2K opinions shared on Dating topic. Because they know it's going to be that much more difficult to have an intimate relationship with her.
10 Reply16.8K opinions shared on Dating topic. Because they hate the fact that we don't really need a man in our lives to be happy.
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You say that you don’t need a man, but you’re still married🤣
+1 yI'm not fazed in the slightest if a woman prefers to be single because she no doubt has her reasons why. Right now I'm currently single and are 8n no rush to enter a relationship either 🤷♂️
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+1 yI guess because they really liked them and wanted to be with them but now they can’t because of her position on her reasoning with why she doesn’t want to be with anyone right now
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+1 yNever heard of guys being upset about that. I see more butthurt boys who can't take rejection and switch from complementing & simping to being verbally abusive & yelling threats, all because she didn't say "yes"
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Men try to use women being single as an insult to us all the time. You’ve had to seen that by now being on the internet
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Let's be real, those guys are immature boys, because they have yet to actually mentally mature. And yes, i have seen them insulting women way too often, just because they didn't get their way.
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+1 yI admire of anyone who chooses to be single. It takes a lot. I'm trying to do the same myself, but it's not easy
(I mean not finding a girlfriend is easy, but not wanting one is hard)10 Reply - 1.2K opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 yIt’s literally the same from both ends.
I’ve seen females absolutely loose they’re minds when they find out the men they want don’t want relationships. No party is neutral.00 Reply - 994 opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 yBoth women and men get upset when they find out the other is choosing to be single. It’s a automatic reaction because we have a biological need to reproduce.
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+1 yBecause it's still a rejection and rejections hurt. That's the great thing about "data," it can be read a variety of different ways. As long as no one is getting hurt, Ignore the reports and just enjoy life anyway you can.
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+1 yI've taken a lot of single women home for the night to help them blow off steam. Their choice doesn't upset me in the least.
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Okay... well... doesn't concern me at all then... not to be harsh, but why would i care? It's your life to live as you choose.
2.2K opinions shared on Dating topic. Because men need a woman to have even the slightest bit of hope of ever being happy in life, when a woman chooses not to, it hurts cause that's another man who won't ever spend a moment where he's happy
01 Reply1.1K opinions shared on Dating topic. I would imagine that these types are already having a hard enough of a time finding a partner and I think this is just out of frustration.
I wouldn't take guys like that personally.
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+1 yWhy are they upset in first place it’s people choice wither or not they want to be single no one owns anyone even when married doesn’t mean own so I don’t know why and plus everything go on I don’t know if being single not a bad thing.
10 ReplyBecause they don't like that they've pushed us to that limit!! 💯
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+1 yBecause they have been brought up by society that they must have a relationship, and often that they must be in control of a woman.
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+1 yBecause those guys are hoping to have a relationship with you.
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+1 yNo one is upset that you are single, and that's not what you mean.
What you REALLY mean is : "Why aren't men validating me because I cannot get into a relationship."
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Ha. ,
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Man, your buttons are just so easy to press. . . .
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ma'am, this is a Wendy's
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I mean, I will. . . i can't say the same for you. xD
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Im a dolphin you are a whale. We are not the same.
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Perhaps I was too harsh on you.
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+1 yNo one is.
What are you talking about?
10 Reply 2.4K opinions shared on Dating topic. It doesn't bother me at all.
Quite possibly it was because she was in a shitty relationship and has just had enough.
Can't blame someone for that.
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+1 yI've seen far more women being offended by MGTOW than I have men being offended by single women.
00 ReplyWhy should they be upset. It is a women's choice. Some women who choose to be single still love to have sex after all!!!
00 Reply566 opinions shared on Dating topic. Most men could not care one way or the other if a woman decides to be single, as that is the default status for most men who have never had the chance to have a relationship, and that is not for the want of trying.
00 ReplyYes people are not ment to be in solitude.
Relationship brings happiness therefor the general public thinks you are sad.
Probably you will regret it too later08 Reply- 5.3K opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 yI don't know. Maybe they don't have exciting lives that they are worried about a stranger who decides to be single.. 🙄
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+1 yBecause saying you “choose to” is coping mechanism that women use instead of trying to be a less shitty person
It’s like quitting because you know you can’t win
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You will never hear a person with a successful dating experience say that nonsense
Women who say that are equivalent to incels who blame women yet don’t even try to improve themselves - +1 y
Because you have less options
Which is the case for all women as they age
Lie to me all you want but don’t lie to yourself
That’s like me saying I choose not to be a gold medal Olympic swimmer ( something I could never do because I lack the lung capacity ) - +1 y
You say “ I choose to” as if at any moment you would actually be able to be in a relationship and live peacefully with a man
You can’t. Saying you choose to is saying
I will not do the inner work on myself I don’t have the discipline for a relationship so it’s easier to just not try
It’s a defeatist and selfish mindset which is typical of women today
Which is why men are going their own way and getting passports to find wives because modern women are not wife material you are not cut out for relationships - +1 y
It is for over for women
Ma’am women like you are leftovers
There are more women than men if every man got married to a woman today gay or straight there was still be billions of women who were single
You just plain old lack dating and relationship skills
Therefore you are not able to compete with women who do
So there is nothing you could do about your being single - +1 y
What I don’t understand is why women try to wear singleness like a badge of honor as if they want people to care that they are single
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We are that’s why we’re going out for the young big chested exotic women who will cook/clean for us and give us sex whenever we want it
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Exactly. Why are women still talking about it? You’ve made it very clear that you are set in your ways and do not need us.
Move on. - +1 y
We are just let us enjoy our big chested tight bubble bum 19yr old wives and families in peace
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They’re finding us we don’t need to search. But thanks again
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+1 yMen are upset when a woman wants to remain single? Never heard of that. Not any of the men I know.
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I think you are listening to too many of these feminists who are living in a Fantasyworld. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Could you translate that into English please?
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Okay, I understand you are not interested in dating. But what does that have to do with my comment? I'm not being critical I'm sincerely trying to understand.
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I was joking about the feminist part. It's fine with me whatever a women chooses. But there are two scientific facts that are relevant here.
1. Married people (both men and women) have longer average lifespans.
2. Women who have had children live longer on average than women who haven't.
Doesn't mean you shouldn't do whatever you want to do, but it's something that is relevant to your decision. - +1 y
Okay... well then when it comes to a women having kids it's a choice between a short happy life without them or a long miserable life with them! 🤔
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Why do I still have the feeling that you aren't so sure about your swearing off of having a man in your life? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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You don't have to convince me. I have never been married. There were phases when I was glad to be alone and other phases when I thought I was making a mistake. I suspect you will experience the same thing as you go through the phases of your life.
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Yeah I thought that too... many times.
Maybe you want a woman. - +1 y
What things do you consider to be indicative of the "collapse of western society?"
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Can you translate that? I used to be able to read minds, but my mind got old and feeble.
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What system of patriarch? Can you give examples?
I love single women have a better time if you know you have not taken them home
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