Have you ever found yourself in the FriendZone?

[coachTanthony]

Yup

Nope

[blueonblack22]

What women do not understand about the friendzone is it’s a RESPECT issue for men NOT a sexual entitlement issue.

No straight man is going to waste his time, energy and money approaching a woman just to be “friends” with her. No. We might become friends by happenstance through shared activities (school, work, sports, etc). But men do not need woman as “friends” to survive in this world.

That’s not to say we don’t value some women as friends because many of us definitely do. But why the hell should a man torture himself and waste his time, money, heart, effort etc. being around a woman he feels attracted to but can’t have?

Most women do not really comprehend how deeply insulting and damaging it can be for a man to go through this experience. It’s not that he got romantically rejected but it’s the fact he feels like she doesn’t respect him as a real man (and she often doesn’t).

[GirlNamedNikki]

Would you rather us pretend to like you? Then you find out that we've been lying to you this entire time. I am not going to pretend to be something I'm not just so that someone else will feel respected. It's not that I'm against respect, but everyone should stay true to themselves as well at others. There is nothing making the man stick around. You can't be friend zoned if you're not there. Plus, you say it like men are the only ones who get friend zoned. Us women do too. And it's just as torturous to us as it is to you. Just walk away, you're not the only ones who get butt hurt when you're rejected. It's life. Now, I'm only 15, so I may be wrong. But I've experienced a lot for such a young age. I don't know, this is just my opinion on what you said. I'm sorry if I sounded rude with anything I said

[blueonblack22]

@GirlNamedNikki no I absolutely do not want women to “pretend” to like me. But you can respect someone by tactfully SPEAKING UP about not being interested.

But in my life experience only 10 to 20% of women have the respect to speak up about where they stand if I express interest. Most women rather play games and delude themselves into thinking I am not interested. They know if they do speak up they will most likely lose out on attention and one way favors they crave. Some of them never grow out of this either. I’ve had grown ass women in their 30s attempt this bs on me a few years ago (I didn’t tolerate it very long).

Also you are right about women getting friend zoned. This is happening because more women are approaching men nowadays. It’s funny how the feminist bs slogan “the friendzone doesn’t exist” died out pretty quickly when women themselves started experiencing this very unpleasant situation.

Also you are 15. Yes you got a lot in front of you. You are figuring out how things work right now. Ironically women seem to be at their most open and fair minded in their teens. Then when they hit their early 20s they discover how real power their sexuality has over men and unfortunately many start to abuse it. They self justify it to themselves because usually at that point they have been burned by a few assholes.

But you are never justified to exploit one person just because an unrelated person exploited you. That doesn’t get you even. But many women will knowingly take advantage of a “nice guy” thinking they are getting retribution for some past asshole did to them.

[GirlNamedNikki]

Not to seem like I'm arguing, but once again everything you said can be turn about males. But you're right, there are some women, as well as some men, who will lead you on for the fun of it. Then there are some that lead you on without knowing. We think we've made it obvious that we're not into you like that, but in many situations we haven't.
As for my personal side of it, I hope I don't grow up to use my sexuality for "fun". I have been sexually abused, so I'll probably be more shy about it, but I definitely know people who will be like that.
I've actually liked this "debate". I've learned a lot of things not many people teach. Thanks🤗

[blueonblack22]

@GirlNamedNikki glad I could help :)

[legalboxers]

I fucking live here..

[legalboxers]

ty for mho

[HappyWoman34]

Of course 😊. I’m good looking, but I’m not everyone’s type. I’m the prettiest in my group of friends and most of the guys are completely immune to my beauty and charm. They don’t even notice. No matter what I wear, I’m just an honorary bloke without a penis. With 3 or 4 exceptions. I actually love being a ‘mate.’ Usually it’s my more quietly attractive, shy friend who gets the attention. I’m like the group mama. Everyone’s mum.. lol. We like to joke that my friend has the X Factor.

[IslaTheWitch]

In school... I was 12 maybe 13... he was so rebellious and we made countless pranks together and... I fell completely for him and he told me, we are only friends...

It hurt. I think I stopped talking to him for two weeks or something. But I missed our mischievous activities and gave up love for fun.

[IslaTheWitch]

Thanks for MHO

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

People should just be happy to have someone as a friend, instead of this friend zone nonsense 🙄🤷‍♀️

[grega239]

Would you be happy beung just friends with someone you have a crush on?

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

@grega239 no one forced anyone to do that.. If you want more from someone than they can give and you know that and stay that’s on you not on them.

[blueonblack22]

@brainsbeforebeautyWhat women do not understand that this is respect issue not a sex issue for men.

Read my comment about this.

[grega239]

But then its not nonsense as you said

[OlderAndWiser]

Of course. Pursue enough women and it WILL happen!

[MoonlightShadow1111]

I've never been friend zoned, but if someone were into me when I had opposite feelings, I'd make it clear of my disinterest so they knew I didn't see them more than that. I'd rather if they moved on instead of just being friends to try to work their way up the latter.

[Anonymous]

Yeah but friend zone has come to change its meaning since my day. These days kids use it to mean any unrequited love between a friendship pair.

In my day it was way more cynical. The fancied friend cynically kept the interested party on the hook and took advantage of their willingness to do things, teasing that one day things may change between them but never doing it. Unless the interested one looked like they were losing interest or worse getting close to someone else. Then suddenly the fancied party gets jealous and possessive driving the challenger away to maintain the subordinates role as submissive friend.

[GirlNamedNikki]

I feel like the "friend zone" is underappreciated. As a friend you're more likely to be with her for life. In today's society, most relationships only last a few years. I wish people could just be happy with having friends. I know it hurts to know that someone does like you the way you like her, but you should always be thankful for the people you have because no matter how you feel for each other, everyone will always leave (be it breakups or death). Like my civics teacher told me "ELE, everybody love everybody."

[razelove]

I think every guy has at some point in time. Growing up is realizing that she isn't going to treat you as a friend, and you either use her for winging a couple times or cut contact immediately. If it happens enough times figure out what's wrong on your end.

I think the last time I was in the friend zone and thought there was hope was in high school. It's possible to get laid from the friend zone, but completely not worth the effort. No relationship is possible from the friend zone.

[Altheavas]

As a female no, no one has. I just knew when I was about to mess up and I left, or disappeared. Not necessarily friend zone, it was a friends with benefits, our objectives were clear at start so I wasn’t about to be the one seeking more. I guess pride.
But yeah I initiated it, when I know I don’t want something I play along a bit, then suggest we stay friends.

[Smashingdoozy]

Friend zone doesn't exist. It's just a term men made up because they pretended to be friends with a woman and then tried to hit on her and when she didn't reciprocate the feelings got mad.

[Tstrbrainer]

Men made it up or women created it for themselves?

[Smashingdoozy]

@Tstrbrainer men made it up, can you not read?

[Tstrbrainer]

That's what you wrote, but is that what actually happened?

[Smashingdoozy]

@Tstrbrainer the terms first known use is in season 1 episode 7 of Friends, Joey tells Ross that he waited too long to make his move with Rachel (just being her friend and pretending he doesn't like her like that) and now he's in the "friend -zone". Written by Jeffrey Astrof and Mike Sikowitz.

[Tstrbrainer]

Nice.
But I generally see that women tend to seek friends of the opposite gender more

[Smashingdoozy]

@Tstrbrainer so? That has no relevancy

[Tstrbrainer]

Doesn't it? Don't women know men usually approach women for things more than friendship?

[Smashingdoozy]

@Tstrbrainer no, women aren't attracted to every man and expect that men aren't attracted to every woman too.

[Tstrbrainer]

Why expect something which they themselves know to be absolutely false?

[Smashingdoozy]

@Tstrbrainer what

[Tstrbrainer]

Don't women already know that men can get attracted to anything that merely resembles a woman?

[Smashingdoozy]

@Tstrbrainer maybe you can

[Paul09]

Huh? Nope. It's the "I'm not interested, let's be friends" part that makes it a friend zone.. You go on a few dates and then they say that. So it exists and was not created by man like religion.

[Tstrbrainer]

I can and all of my friends can too

[Smashingdoozy]

@Paul09 it's evolved since it was first a thing. But as I said, it's first known use was from friends.

[bededazzle]

i don't believe in the friend zone. someone is either your friend or they are attracted to you. it's up to you to decide what your boundaries are from there.

[Billlewis]

I consider being in the friend zone as a wonderful opportunity to please a beautiful woman who I had no real chance of having sex with to begin with. Which would you rather have, a (mostly) platonic female friend who you can occasionally spend some time with and hopefully do favors and run errands for, or yet another woman whom you've pissed off because you turned into a jerk when you found out you weren't going to be able to have sex with?

[XXTruthfulOgrexx]

Nope, if I express interest in someone and they shut it down, I respect their decision but they immediately go into the do not contact, block and ghost list. I have plenty of friends and not interested in adding more. I will not give her a second thought past that.

[Joshydavid25]

Yeah, in the past I have.. I was a cheeseball, still kinda am just careful about who I let my cheesiness onto now.. Plus, I'm only usually friends with girls I know I can be actually friends with nowadays..

[NathanDavis]

if that means... to pretend to be a friend with someone I didn't really want a friendship with? no... lol

never really did that to myself, or others

[Bricealan]

I have, but later found there was some sexual overtone along with it. I thought it was strangely erotic at the time. She and I never had sex, but did talk about it a lot.

Strange.

[FreyaRed]

No, but I was often I thought I'm in friend zone but he thought it's more than than... and one heart more was broken

[exitseven]

I have had female friends before but do not really believe in the friend zone. Some of these relationships could have been more except for some external circumstances.

[BoopBoopBeep]

Many times over the years. We usually still had sex when she wanted some "friend sex"... but that wasn't the question.

[Sonorous]

Oh yeah. But back when I preferred not to be. Now I think I might prefer to be there.

[worldscolide]

Nope, when a woman friend zones me, I remove her from my life.

[Unit1]

I don't believe in the so called "friendzone".

[Fxjjxhhccbgcfccc]

Thank God you posted a new question. It's been only 1 day. I was beginning to think you died

[Nikki1989]

Can't be in a zone if it doesn't exist.

[LiamJHayden]

Nope. If I am interested and she declines, my interest immediately evaporates.

[AnusNdaPainus]

I hate women who friendzone guys but don’t want them to date another woman either

[Anonymous]

Yep and I gave the bitch the double middle finger and told her how would you like it if I whipped my dick out and dick smacked you in the face she got pissed started swearing at me and cussing me out and threatening to get her boyfriend on me and I told the bitch go ahead and I'll dick slap the shit out of him to and turn him into my fat sized bitch after that she blocked me

[Opinion Owner]

This was somewhere around the time of 2006-2011

[Opinion Owner]

There's very few situations when the friendzone is allowed. 1. When the bitch is ugly as fuck 2. When the bitch is fat as fuck AND ugly as fuck BUT it's ok to date her if she's an attractive fat girl 3. If you're in love with the woman is married.
Those are the only times it's ok to friendzone or be friendzoned

[aceleon]

yup but i was not interested in the girls i was friends with we were just hanging out.

[Paris13]

Perhaps Purposely By My Ex who I had Split From, hun. xxoo

[Sparkie460]

I have female friends. We've been friends for many years.

[ritxi]

Yes, several times. That's the common experience I have had.

[msc545]

Yes of course. I've been in the friend zone. Most men have and those that say they have not are usually unbelievably wealthy or simply liars.

[DextroShade]

The friend-zone is for simping losers so no I have not and will not.

[ChicoFromThe305]

Don't even remind me bro 😂

[PBandJ_Nerd]

Who doesn't?

[cherriibly]

Nope

[FenixG45]

Yup! Welcome to My Hell!

[Aiko_E_Lara]

No but I did friend zone a girl one time

[dolemite58]

every guy has, you just gotta move on.

[Tstrbrainer]

Nope, very rarely I pursue friendship with women

[Slim57]

Yeah maybe once or twice