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I hate this kind of stuff. I have arms. If a man pulls out my chair for me at a date, there’s a 95% chance that’s our last one.
Thank you lol
I don't pay attention to those things so I don't care much
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It depends on what the expectations are. I don't think women expect this anymore.
I was on Instagram and saw a post about it just now and it's surprising to see how many girls still expect or desire it from a man.
In the old days, the things you ask about were part of chivalry. They were nothing more than small and pleasing acts that men did for women. Feminists think they're oppressive and propagate that sentiment. They're wrong, that's part of the reason feminists are often disliked.
Your question reminds me of a friend at college. She grew up in a culture where men who didn't hold doors, etc, were cads. As we walked from building to building, the way she deferred to me at doorways was so natural and honestly, quite nice.
To answer your question, "should you have to?" No. You don't have to. If you're smart, you will. Women with any sophistication will appreciate your graciousness. You could do worse than being appreciated by women.
“Women don’t like to when I open doors for them. They’re wrong, and if they don’t like it they’re the bad guys”
You bud
What’s your point then?
I always thought it was weird, women aren’t kids.
I have never done it and never will but that doesn’t mean I don’t acknowledge the fact that a man should be gentle with women and make them feel good about themselves.
Agreed
I played morals chicken with a feminist in a hipster bar in Philly 10 years ago. We were in line for the bathroom. It was unisex and there was one. I was in front of her when it was my turn I said "ladies first" amd waved her on. She said "I don't believe in that" I said "I do" but she refused to go first. So did I. We waved everyone behind us to go for the next 45 minutes until the bar closed. She was fuming. Even more mad as she watched me relieve myself in the alleyway before getting a taxi home. Chivalry exist no matter how much bitches hate it.
That's up to the couple. I normally do open the car door but some women would rather do it themselves. That's fine with me.
I do get doors for my wife and help her with her coat, it's just a fun thing for us, not something she demanded or even expected.
Nah unless it’s sort of required
i have frameless doors so I open the car door and close it, mainly if she slams it, she’s walking
You can do it for a while normally you don’t do it at restaurants pulling the chair for her to sit mostly you do it for going in the car and getting out of the car but it’s not something that needs to be done every day for the rest of your life obviously by now she gets that a man like that is very courteous
It shows respect which gains them points in my book. I like to quickly slip their chair out as they do mine, always gains a smile.
Some men don't want that kind of woman. I don't judge, that's their relationship.
No. But it can be a nice gesture. He plays the gentleman and she plays the lady. It make him seem more masculine and her more feminine.
It shows that he's being thoughtful and courteous. But too much can seem condescending.
I think we’ve kinda brown past this. I don’t expect my partner to open the cad door or pull out my seat. Not unless we both plan on sitting at the back of a taxi or sitting beside each other at a restaurant with friends.
a man does not have to, however it is a nice polite gesture.
Treat her like you would like someone to treat your mom. (if you loved and respected her)
I've never pulled a chair for my mom or open a car door for her. She'd find that very strange if I did
but would you like someone else to do that for her, or just walk in a place ahead of her and not hold the door for her, or open it up.
In my statement I said how you would like someone to treat her, not meaning you.
I've held the door open for my mom and done the chair thing, but it was how I was raised.
A man is not obligated to do anything for the woman he is on a date with other then meeting the effort she puts in. Any woman saying otherwise is just a sexist hypocrite. If women want equality then it means equality, not cherry picking.
It's a nice thing to do... So yeah, I'd recommend it. I know I always appreciate gentlemanly behavior.
Whether or not I should have to is irrelevant. I do it because I want to.
No. But if you ever want to see her again you better!
no neeed n she will complain "i don't need your help".
No, but only because you said "have to".
I'd have no respect for a woman who demanded or expected it.
no but it is so attractive if a guy open doors for any girls in general.
It's what an Old School Gentleman would do, so it's what I would do. I don't know what the kids would do nowadays.
It’s only nice to do so but not every date
I think it is civilized and from a kinder gentler time when people treated each other with respect.
no but girls appreciate that stuff.
No we don’t
No. Unless I’m injured or sick I wouldn’t want a random man giving me my seat. I’d reject it
Don’t care. No amount of sex appeal will make up for chivalry
Have to? No. Want a second date? Yes.
Yes I like chivalrous men
if you are a gentleman
Yes!!
Because, manners.
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