I just hold the door open for everyone. I've not had any problems there even in the US, and instead most people generally politely saying, "Thank you!" in response.
I have heard horror stories about how some feminist got offended. I've never actually run into that case personally. Yet if they take offense, so what? If someone takes offense to a kind gesture, then it's especially their problem and not yours. I'm not going to change my behavior on behalf of someone taking offense to such ridiculous things.
2. Gender equality does not mean that we should treat men and women as identical in all respects. The last time I checked (two nights ago) there are some significant differences and they are quite enjoyable.
3. As gender equality is emerging, shouldn't men perform half of the breast feeding of newborns and infants?
If gender equality does not mean that we are treated equally then why is it such a big deal that women are being paid less?
Lol you're just being ridiculous here, thats like saying gender equality means women should produce half of the testosterone and semen in the world. Obviously there will still be biological differences between the genders, but why does that mean we should treat each other differently?
@devilman666 Gender equality does not mean that we are treated as if we are identical; it only means that we have equal opportunities for employment, housing, and receiving services from the state.
Gender equality does not mean that you must buy your son a training bra. It does not mean that we must abolish all traditions in which we voluntarily engage lest we be accused of treating women unequally. I hold the door open for all women, children, and old men; this is based on my perception that, on average, those people are less likely to handle heavy doors as easily as I can, so I do it as a sign of respect and as a courtesy. How does that vitiate the concept of gender equality?
Also, perhaps this is the better way to go about this, you never gave a reason for why men should hold the door open for weak/feeble people, you just assumed women belonged in that group.
@devilman666 Recognizing that women do not have the same physical capacity as men does not mean that I am treating them like an infant. You seem to be very hostile on this subject. What's up with that?
It is preferred no matter what day and age it is. It is just like chivalry. It is ageless. Does a man protect his wife or girlfriend or just say, sorry babe, it's everyone for their self? Some things you expect, like opening a car door for your date and closing it when she is seated. I don't know what society is coming to, but it doesn't seem good. And yet when it comes to making money men make more tan women in the same job. WTF?
I would open the door for you. Move chair out as you sit down, whoops, I mean so you can sit down. Get up at table when you powder your nose. The works. I would even pay for the meal , when I get mowers paid for.
What do women offer in return? The problem is women aren't lady like anymore, so why should men be chivalrous? You can't hold men to old standards and not women. If you are in a relationship you should be protecting eachother. It shouldn't just be the mans job. Why can't a women open a door for a man? Does it show that she doesn't care about him like many say is the other way around?
Mem make more for the same job? Where is your proof? When you base it on the same job it is actually 90 something cents to the dollar, but that doesn't include hours worked and how men are more likely to ask for a raise. I'm not saying there isn't any discrimination in pay, but that there isn't evidence to suggest that there is any significant pay discrimination between genders.
It shouldn't be expected but it should definitely be commended regardless of what gender does it. It's a kind act! There's no harm until people deem it mandatory. It typically means a lot more to women when their man does it for them. They go crazy for the little courteous things like that. But I do think that it should be reciprocated in some form. There has to be a balance.
I don’t see why this is such a confusing issue. I’m 5ft1” and just over 100lbs. There are some doors I struggle opening and I still open those doors for other people. Why is it ok for me to open doors for people but it’s somehow bad for a guy to open a door for me?
It’s just a common courtesy you open doors, you hold doors open, you make sure groups of people going together stay together and you be polite the whole time.
It’s only a confusing issue because of how society has evolved. If a man doesn’t hold the door, chivalry is dead. If he does hold the door, he doesn’t consider her as capable, or independent.
Chivalry is just one of those things that gets caught in the middle of things during evolution of society.
You hold the door open out of courtesy of some dipshit thinks less of me for waking through a door because he held it open or because I opened the door for someone else I just don’t give a fuck. Not my problem that they’re stupid.
I agree with you 100%. My explanation on the matter does not reflect my opinion. I hold the door for anyone behind me. I understand why people get confused. It’s because everyone gets so butt hurt over everything these days. What I don’t understand is why.
... Sure? People should just open doors for other people in general. It's polite. SPEAKING OF POLITE YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE THE ASSHOLE I ENCOUNTER THE OTHER DAY Fucking asshole was standing IN the one revolving door that was working into the building and wouldn't let anyone in or out- He just talked on his cell phone and was smoking. He did not work there and was standing there laughing that the crowd of people until a security guard came and pushed him out.
No. Whether or not people should hold the door open for each other, regardless of gender, is open for debate. If women expect us to treat them special then they should have never started the equality movement, because special treatment is the opposite equality.
People should do that if they actually want to, and not only cause they want to impress, cause then that’s a fake personality trait you’re portraying for the sake of “looking admirable” and that’s worse than if you hadn’t opened the door at all. Be how you are. If you’re not the gentle men type, don’t pretend to be. Nobody likes a fake or a wanna be.
we're living in a world where all we can hear is how strong and how independent and special women are. let them do these stuff themselves. in many situations they have advantages over men. isn't that enough? do we need to be their personal door men too? the other day some girl asked me to pick up something heavy for her. i honestly didn't want to help but some of the people i know were watching so... i hated myself for helping her because women have no problem using our physical strength when they need help but then the rest of the time we're seen as a threat because of our physical strength. a lot of men know what i'm talking about, but a lot still don't
It makes things easier for me, and it's greatly appreciated. Many do, but I don't pass judgment on a person if they don't. It's not their job or obligation.
I mean, yes. Gender equality doesn't mean you just stop being a gentlemen or polite. If you reach the door first, it's basic human decency to hold it for someone else. The same if she reaches it first.
It’s nice if he does it out of love or because he wants to do it. I’ll never expect a man to open a door for me though, I’ve always been very independent about those simple things!
Yes, just like women should do to. It's just a polite behaviour. Hold the door for people that are in a rush, close behind you or holding a lot of things.
I don't mind.. It depends on who is further in front. If I'm walking faster I'll hold the door for him. I do think it's sweet when a guy opens my door though.
Of course why not 🤗 I'll open every door for my lady. It's not to show her that she's not capable of doing that but to respect her i would do that. Some women say they don't need these things because they independent and blah donno why..
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