Its not that a man 'HAS' to open a car door, however for me Id like my door opened once in a while especially the first few date. I can open a door and do everything myself, but to me it shows he is going out of his way to treat me like a queen and shows respect. I find it super attractive.
Also remember your chances of getting what you want at the end of the night depends on how you 'whoo' her emotionally, you have to tug at that string in order to impress her enough so you get what you want.
Would you rather play that game or it be genuine? Isn't genuine behavior better than manipulative behavior in the sense that I'll do the "right" thing just to get head at the end of the night? I feel like of you're a good person and want to be nice you should do it without expecting anything.
thanks for reminding everyone women are emotional
@Friendlybro79 you're trying to reason with someone who evolved to be manipulated, not reasoned with, females are not our equal
@Friendlybro79 Yeah I think so too but realistically the end game is to get the girl right? The only way you are going to get her interested in you is by doing the things that make you stand out.
@RandomGuy1030 No men and women are not equal, mentally and physically. Women are more emotional and our hormones trigger this... its how we were made.
That's a two way street with standing out.
My husband always does it, but I don't ask him to do it. It is what you call good manners.
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Okay. This depends on your relationship. Relationships are NOT a one size fits all issue. Me personally if you’re too lazy to even open a car door for yourself…. Especially in traditional relationships men also did all the work. So if I’m payin my for everything and you can't even open a door.
But I also don’t judge people if that’s what they want. It’s their relationship not mine and what makes them both happy is what matters.
On the other hand I hate all this modern leftist bullshir as well.
I think you should figure out who makes you happy and who you’re compatible with and that is what matters the most.
If someone isn’t meant to be and what you’re looking for isn’t the same. It’s not meant to be
I am going with Robert Fulghum on this point: All I Really Need To Know I Learned In Kindergarten. This is not about rules or proper manners as much as it is about Personhood and the individual heart and whether its expressions are devoid of Awareness, Thoughtfulness, and Confidence
I mean… they have arms :\ 💃
if it were me.. and my guy opened the door for me… I’d scream in surprise and awe, and then fall back into his arms.. lmao
😂 That’s just how it has to be.
@Paul09 yeah well before and especially due to the many problems of men and women, I do not mention genders.
I’m a woman, but when I talk good or bad about them it’s so they don’t take offense. If it’s good things and really good. I don’t say myself and sometimes I try to say people or so, just not to offend either gender.
I delete myself out of the equation, if you can understand…
So you men and women can continue what they do, and I’ll be in the sidelines observing, sometimes cheering, commenting, and etc.
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Eating my tootsie roll lollipop ☺️👍
@Paul09 maybe you’re asking for something and don’t know how to ask?
Because I read your answer as:
If she has arms she should also lift me up and carry me into the house…
Like yes, women will show their affection 100% (the ones who really love) to their men but some things are nice to be for women and men.
Or maybe you’re right? Maybe include these
Take men to lady teas and sandwiches
And take ladies to football parties
Maybe they’d all like both who knows 🤷♀️🤔
@Friendlybro79 lol I’m glad you’re laughing. I don't know what made you laugh but he’s let’s keep laughing shall we 😭🙌😂
u There is no group of people who makes rules governing such things. If you want to do it, then do it and you will probably score points with most ladies. If you don't want to do it, you can justify your decision by saying its an outdated custom, and you will probably lose points with most ladies.
I agree with this except that I don't think most ladies today would care if you didn't open their car door every time. I'm sure some but not most. That said most to me means 90% for reference. Not 51% if I had to guess 22.4566% of all women would care and 6.323457098% of women 18-25 would care. I don't care 79.23019% of the times about things like this 99.2344% of the times. Please don't ask me to show my work for the math. Lol
Thanks for sharing that. I was being a little silly with my "stats" if that wasn't evident. That's a poll of 17 people if I read it correctly. I'd love to see if a thousand or more filled it out from different areas how it would turn out. I also wonder how age/generation plays a role. It's definitely nice to hold a door open for someone else so it's hard to argue that for sure.
@Friendlybro79 Yeah, there's nothing "scientific" about a poll on this site, but it's interesting. And 82% say a guy scores at least some points when he does this.
It is interesting. It's also a good reminder how just being nice can go a long way in general
@Friendlybro79 Yeah, out of 25 ladies who responded so far, only ONE said a guy LOST points by doing this, TWO said it didn't matter/neutral, and TWENTY-TWO said a guy scores points by opening doors for them.
I would say all behaviours in a relationship or dating connection are and should be voluntary, men who hold doors for women do it because they want to, not because they think they will get yelled at if they don't hold the door for her.
Some "old fashioned" types of things still belong in this era. Proper dress, proper language, and proper etiquette all have their place today. It speaks more of how backwards and deperaved we are when people claim such things are "too old-fashioned".
I've done for a feminist type of woman before. They were furious. Needless to say, that relationship didn't work out. Good riddance.
I've done it for a traditionalist type of woman. They swooned and fell for me harder... those are the kind of gals I like.
I do it all the time. My Dad told me it is what a gentleman does.
Sometimes, just doing those little things like that can also land you in a favorable position.
I was at Costco with my mom one time and we arrived with our cart. It was a cool day, so I ushered my mom into my truck, meanwhile, a very good looking woman showed up and was waiting to get in her car beside us. She waited till I got my mom situated. Once I had my mom in and closed the door, the woman gave me a big smile and said a woman can always tell a good man, by the way treats his mother.
So let this be a little bit of a lesson to guys out there, women are watching all the time to see what kind of guy you are.
Yes women can open their own doors... but when you do open a door for her it shows her what a kind, considerate and lovely man you are and how you are going to treat her moving forward will probably be positive... even when random guys hold the door for me going in somewhere I am always very happy and consider them very good men... lol It's honestly just manners, if you guys can't see the value in it, you aren't really gonna be good spouses... because you lack selflessness... just my opinion...
Like I always say... if you can't treat me better than my own father does, then you ain't worth my time... because who loves me more than my parents... probably no one lol
I rather be sad and alone than sad and stuck with a selfish loser who ignores me and causes stress in my life...
@anemone978 Just curious. If you met a guy that met all your criteria except he neglected to hold the door open for you would that still be enough or would you rather be alone?
Scenario 2 he's perfect, you're married for years, have a kid or two, a dog, and then he frigging forgets to open the door ONE TIME. Do you pack your bags with zero notice?
I'm just messing with you if you can't tell and am being silly not a jerk well maybe a jerk but I'm trying to be funny and not serious. Do your thing and be happy lol.
@Friendlybro79 haha the door opening doesn't even matter it just shows the mans outward care... lol I really just want someone caring and nice... and what is the easiest way to see someone is nice, then by doing small gestures such as opening the door for you... but yes thank you I will try to be happy :P
Glad this made you laugh because that was the intention. I totally understand what you mean.
If I'm taking my wife out on a date I will do it. But for everyday trips with kids no. Plus you can probably blame feminism, since women are equal to men they can open there own doors.. haha. Just joking. Calm down. Probably the real reason it slow down and stop is because of remote entry. Before mid to late 90's it wasn't standard, so you would have to unlock the. Passenger side car with the key on the door handle outside or the drive side door panel inside. Soo, since you where walking to the car with your lady already it was just easier to be a gentleman and unlock n open the door for her.
They are strong independent girls. You don't need to help them. They don't need anyone's help.
This is what you will hear from many girls. But there are other girls as well. Hence, it depends on the girl.
Just test her by doing it once and pay attention to her emotions as closely as you can. You will know it right away. Whether she has been brainwashed or whether she is still able to think for herself independently.
You will know.
It's only a thing of the past for feminists. Modern day feminism has made it easy to distinguish between women worth being this kind to, and women that you simply avoid altogether. As men, we've gotta look beyond physical appearance in order to correctly distinguish between the two.
Depends on the circumstances. If it is like a date, I will do it. If it is just a casual outing with a woman, I don't. I used to do it all the time back when you actually had to use a key to unlock the door. Then, I was at the door anyway and I'd open it for her.
I would only do it on a date, because you're supposed to be chivalrous and romantic on a date to make her feel special and like a lady.
If we've been dating for a while, the bitch can open it herself. Because it is kind of dumb and cheesy and pointless. I'm not her chauffer and she's not Miss Daisy
To a certain point maybe. But in other ways it's completely weird. The woman has arms she can open a door. Seems like she gets treated like a princess, but does the man get treated like a prince? Does the woman ever open the door for him? Or is it one sided entitlement?
Yes and no. I have two girlfriends and still actively date. When I'm one on one with a woman I open the door. When we are in a group one of them opens the door for me.
So yes its still legit but it's not always the way to do things in the modern era.
You can still do that yes. Same thing with dropping your lady off at the door while you go find a parking spot for the car. It's just part of being a gentlemen. My dad told me this when I was younger.
I primarily date women but I'm typically the older and more financially established one in the relationship so I generally do a lot of the"mab" things like pay for dinner and open doors... its proper.
However, I am probably a bad example as I hail from a subculture where a person in my position is expected to be able to properly lay out and serve a formal dinner and do so on a semi-regular basis, so etiquette is a bit of a specialty
I guess I must be extremely fortunate that my husband was brought up and taught how to be a perfect gentleman to his Girlfriend, Fiancée and then Wife.
i appreciate it
The answer to this question is the same as the answer to the question "Are women still supposed to give a guy a blowjob on the first date if he takes her out and pays for a nice dinner, or is that a thing of the past at this point?".
When it comes to traditional gender roles, modern women want to have their cake and eat it too.
If it's something you want to do, then do it. If it's something you don't want to do, then don't. The types of women that stick around will match your behavior.
She is only a "lady" deserving of that if she is a pure virgin waiting until marriage, has no past drug use, and has old traditional values that her actions (not just words) reflect.
Guys I go on dates with always open the door for me and I never have to ask. I absolutely love it!
@Mewzinc from dating apps mostly. Just be very discerning. Only entertain the ones willing to put in effort and treat you the way you like.
@Mewzinc not male model hot. I don’t care much about looks as long as they’re not frumpy. I just date professional men with careers. Last guys I dated were lawyers and worked on Wall Street. Then again that’s who I’m around a lot since I’m a professional. Just post really classy photos and include your interests. I hate to say this but guys are very judge about the types of photos girls post online so present yourself well. Maybe also throw in a sexy pic once but in a like a classy bodycon dress that shows off your body, or if you have a hobby like dance or modeling that shows your style/aesthetic.
Act like a servant, get treated like a servant. This is an outdated gesture of appreciation and respect from a time when women served their men and families. Now it's just something women expect even though they won't lift a finger in return.
If a guy did that to me i would think he's eccentric and kind of cool. But most girls would think he's weird
Suppose to?
No, there is no obligation here but yes a man would do that if they have enough love and respect for their lady.
they should do how woman likes it, he can do it and if she says she doesn't like that he shouldn't do it
Real men should do it, but some women don't want the man to do it, so real man should adapt to what the woman wants.
I do it often. Even on couple nights out, I open the car door for our friend and her husband opens it for my wife as the ladies ride in the back seat.
Lol at the results, it is perfectly acceptable to not open the car door. Unless the woman im going out with is disabled, im not doing that for her.
Relationships are a two-way street. Hopefully the following is just an acception and not the rule...
Men were expected to treat a woman a certain way before equality and woman rights. Now that woman have the right to vote, work jobs it is no longer expected that a man open car doors. Chivalry is midieval, a thing of the past.
It still exists actually this month I got 'scolded' for trying to open the door 🥰
My husband still opens my doors for me. We both love it.
I wouldn't say supposed to but if the man wants to hold the door for me then it's nice
It's not obligatory but I think it's a nice gesture.
Unfortunately, because of feminism I don’t expect men to do it. However, it’s nice when they do. I consider myself traditional, so I am always appreciative of a man’s chivalry.
It's certainly much less expected these days, but you aren't going to go wrong opening the door for your date.
men don't do that anymore. I don't know why you're even asking this question.
You can do it if you want but you risk name-calling and a fight if you do.
You can NOT do it if you want but you risk name-calling and a fight if you don't.
some do, some women get pissed off if you do, so it is hard to figure out what to do now.
Yes and he always drives unless it’s very far and he’s tired when he opens my door I’ll lean over inside and open his too.
Courtesy never goes out of style, my friend.
I like doing so. Certainly for a girl less physically strong/of weaker arms.
No. They're not crippled or handicapped. They can do it themselves and if they bitch or complain about that, move onto the next one
Real men do this for real women. Unfortunately, real women are almost extinct.
Yes they are supposed to do that. It's being well raised.
If she has arms I not opening the door. She can do it herself.
I wouldn't mind if a guy would open the door for me. I would feel like he would be treating me like a princess of some sort. ☺️
I would for my wife depending on the situation
That’s when women are passive. In these days women are not that passive anymore,
Drive a Tesla they open themselves 😂.
I still do but I am an old fashioned guy.
Yes but why become her chauffeur
that does not exist anymore.
Should it
that's up to you.
Do you prefer it
I still do this.
Nice women like that.
No, that’s still nice to do
that is thing of past.
Only for chicks who swallow.
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