Is it possible to date somebody who doesn't align with you politically. I know a few people who do, but as a general rule people align somewhat politically. Is this an automatic deal breaker?
One of the best relationships I ever had was when I dated moderate liberal when I was a moderate conservative.
We challenged each other over issues. Forced each other to think harder by providing countervailing viewpoints. She changed my opinion on some issues and I changed hers on others.
But this was way back in 2013. Initially she was thoughtful and moderate at the time. However she started making friends with the wrong crowd (far left radical types). They did rub off on her and I noticed she got increasingly more combative over political issues. I know it contributed to the downfall of the relationship (not the only reason but definitely one of them).
Anyway people believe the political polarization in this country started under Trump. When in reality the division accelerated during Obama’s second term. That is when one side started getting much more aggressive with their ideologies. The Trump campaign was a response to those radical changes.
That’s not to say Trump de-escalated things (obviously). Also I am not a huge fan of his rhetoric and “maga”. But the division was happening well before Trump ran for president.
But around 2016 I noticed leftists particularly leftist women took things to a whole another level. Many of them refused to even engage with men who disagreed with them politically. They very quickly demonized conservative men. They also isolated themselves to their own echo chambers.
In response conservative men started doing the same thing and likewise got defensive when they were around leftist women. They quickly assumed their thought processes and likewise stayed in their own bubbles.
Anyway no matter where you stand politically this trend is very bad for both men and women and horrible for our country.
Single hood rates are now at record highs. That’s not to say you should date someone who is the polar opposite of you politically. But there was a time (such as the relationship described above) years ago where political differences was much less of an issue in dating. Not saying it shouldn’t be an issue but our modern society is literally encouraging this discrimination, hatred and division. Encouraging people to take the mental short cut that “you are either this or you are THAT”.
However the reality is that most people are much more complicated. Not every person who voted for Trump is a rabid “maga” supporter who attended the J6 riot. Likewise not every person who voted for HRC/Biden belongs to antifa.
Also you leftist ladies who think you can “sexually punish” conservative men into voting democrat are dead wrong.
Sure there are some simps out there but most men aren’t going to change their core values just to please a woman.
If anything you are just driving up more hatred, misogyny and resentment with that approach. That is not good for either men or women. Sure men get hurt first. But you can’t harm men without ultimately harming women.
I fuck hawt women and it's usually the hawt women that don't have a hard political stance. But dating implies that they're picking me up, and buying me a fancy dinner, with a possible cool activity to do afterwords. Then of course we usually fuck. Anyways...
Political bullshit doesn't come up during all that. I mean maybe a little. The conservative girls are a bit more reserved and have their preening game up a bit high. But the liberal girls see my muscles and just want me to blow their back out in her car's back seat... which sucks for her because I'll wipe my leftovers off on the back seat.
Now don't get me wrong... both types are freaks in the sheets and to be honest I can't even tell until I've already been banging her for a few months. They both are cheating on other men just as much as the others to get with me. There is no real difference between them when you make their pussies wet.
Usually, they'll change their mind about many things when I keep pointing out why they're wrong or how their logic is flawed. You know the types... they've memorized the talking points but don't really know what the fuck they're talking about. Then there is me... I hold no loyalty to any party. I could give a flying fuck about social issues and I vote for who puts cold dead cash in my hand or is going to make whatever cash I do have be able to buy more. I like abortions for instance, but not because of women's rights though... it's because that's one less rug rat that's unwanted and poor that will grow up and might fuck with me later on. My morals are simply based on what I want. Basically, if you want to figure me out, then figure out who put more money in my pocket and that money didn't decline in value. I'll sidestep social issues though.
TL;DR political shit don't matter as much as my muscles and big dick do.
As long as we everything else we get along fine with. Even if they vote differently president still probably would've been elected anyways
Sure I would! Any idiot who would take there political views so seriously as to have them affect a relationship deserves to be alone.
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u I did, for two years. I dated Ivy from 2015 to 2017. She was definitely liberal and i am definitely conservative. Otherwise, we had many things in common. I broke up with her not because of her politics but because she had that only child syndrome where everything needed to be about her and though i loved her, i would never have a complete and happy future with her.
Older generations of liberal women were more open minded and less discriminatory.
@blueonblack22 And older generations of conservative men were more open minded and less discriminatory. It took two to tango.
True. But leftist women started this problem first.
I can’t tell you how many women in their 20s and 30s asked me “are you a trump supporter” within 5 mins of talking to them back in 2016-2020.
@blueonblack22 I had a woman bail on me after three dates because she looked at my FB page and concluded that I was "one of those people." You know, racist conservatives who eat babies for breakfast. Our next date, as she knew, was scheduled with her helping me to do Christmas shopping for a 12 year old girl in foster care. I do that as part of the good works my church does. But her preconceived (aka prejudiced) notion about conservatives blinded her from seeing me as an individual.
Yes, I get it.
And do you see conservative men treating liberal women that way? I haven’t.
I too had a first date tell me “she had to use the bathroom” and she ran out of the restaurant after (by her prodding) I admitted voted for Trump. She was one of 4-5 incidents I have had with this (also problems with female coworkers).
I have dated moderate liberal women years ago and got in a long term relationship with one back in 2012-2013. We actually challenged each others viewpoints. And she LIKED being challenged back then and so did I. It was productive. But those days are long gone.
TDS came along in 2015 and radically changed everything. Modern liberal women think they can “sexually punish” conservative men into voting democrat. What’s worse is they refuse to leave their echo chambers which makes them double down on their TDS ignorance.
Now I do live in a blue state (Colorado) so it’s worse out here. But these women are ultimately self sabotaging themselves when they run away from having their POVs challenged. I would have thought the gross incompetence of the Biden administration (hyperinflation, border crisis, wars abroad, etc) might of woken some of them up. But it hasn’t (especially when the word “Trump” is spoken).
Liberal said it all for me to understand her personality. They're all about "me, me, me"
@HawkPerception Ivy certainly was, but she was raised as an only child and I attributed her self-centeredness to that. Fortunately, I live in the Free State of Florida and there are many conservative women here. I am now married to a Chinese woman who has been in the US for 30+ years; she is conservative but not strongly political.
I plan on finding a Latino/Asian women for a wife at some point.
Having similar views is pretty important to me. Even if that decreases my chances of finding a compatible partner, I'd rather be with no one that someone who consistently has conflicting views and potentially conflict in the relationship. It decreases your attraction of one another.
Of course. My wife and I have slightly different political views. though we agree on some.
I wouldn't date someone who was completely opposite to my views though.
Years ago, I would have said yes. Not now though, no way.
That, is true-perfection ♀️
Depends on how different.
- Anti-Abortion non negotiable because there has to be some form for the woman who is a victim of rape, incest, child abuse, who had a miscarriage needing to be removed, would result in the death of the woman (save her life).
- Has no integrity or respect for the disabled, handicap, wounded veterans getting the benefits & care they need.
- Doesn’t see all people as people.
- Believes Trump tells the truth even after all the crimes & indictments & guilty….
Luckily I'm married and don't have to worry about dating anymore. But if I was dating, being that it's 2024 and all I would not date anyone that I didn't align with politically.
I once dated a girl in my 20's who was far left politically. Anytime she got a little tipsy she got belligerent, obnoxious, and-political. She couldn't stand anyone who didn't see the world through her political prism (sound familiar?). Since I was only dating her for sex and knew it was short term I put up with it for a while before I dumped her. But after that, I swore I'd never do it again. :)
My wife and I share all of the same core values... so politically we're aligned.
Date is a strong word, but I've found that getting into bed with liberal women tends to be easier than conservative women. Especially the blue and green dyed hair crowd.
Generally that goes ok for a couple weeks. Personally I enjoy hearing new points of view, or I wouldn't be on here and kicking hornets nests so much, it tends to be that they'll start a screaming match over something, and expect me to apologize for my beliefs and their behavior, and that's the end of that.
u It's a moot point for me, since I am married. But if I were single, no, I would not. It's not because of contempt or anything like that. It's because I'd have values that I'd want to pass on to my children. Dating is preparation and practice for marriage.
I only did it twice the first gal i urged her to vote despite knowing she opposed but she said she wouldn't vote she just rejected my politics. The 2nd gal i hid i was different until she pressed me. I lied i was on her side.
I do that sometimes to make a friendship last longer. If something goes wrong i say "i am a trump et anyway ".
Comes down how strong they express it. My best friend is a racist and would often complain about the politics in our country that his ex got fed up and left him. Now he is still racist but he doesn't complain that often anymore and keeps it around himself more. His new girlfriend is fine with it.
Just curious. Do you view the label “racist” in absolute terms? That is some either is or is not racist?
I view the label as absolute term.
I think I am racist too as I mistrust people from certain races and would honestly be happier if they were gone but only on a national lvl. On the otherhand I dont mind them if they are integrated and you dont have to feel like a foreigner when you go trough certain parts of the citys.
I think you have good intentions but you are misguided.
The human mind naturally categorizes situations including different categories of people. This ties into evolution and tribalism. Naively interacting with the wrong tribe could get you robbed, assaulted and/or killed in many historical cultures (and still in some places of the world today).
Now that doesn’t mean it’s okay to let your mind run rampant and take the mental short cut of labeling any person of a different race immediately as a threat. F*ck no. It will take additional mental effort to further access the person and to determine if they are someone you want to associate with or not. But most people don’t want to put in that mental effort so it’s hurts.
However people will put in the more mental effort if society tells them it will impact the their social optics. They are chasing “social approval” in that scenario. But that’s not the same as putting the effort to genuinely get to know someone.
Anyway I still fully disagree with you that “racist” is an absolute term. There are varying degrees of racism and people can improve themselves with experiences, time and effort. Some people can sadly go in the opposite direction but usually propel improve with maturity.
The greatest minority is the individual.
*people improve with maturity.
If it was a deal breaker men and women wouldn’t even be dating and sleeping together. Though they are dating and banging less than ever before as far as recorded history goes, they still are. The data and simply walking around and talking to people in their 20s and early 30s would suggest that 75%+ of young men are at least socially conservative if not politically as well while around 80% of young women are socially liberal.
I suppose it depends how strongly their views are, if they are very open minded and see the other ones point of view then it could work but if they only think their political views are the right one and it’s not the same as yours it probably won’t last long, it’s better if they are not that political or have the same views as you
I could not be with a libtard for multiple reasons:
10-15 years ago you would be right on with about. We would be on the same boat.
But this leftist modern feminism bs is PERVASIVE. It’s not just ugly ass blue-haired loud fat ass women who are acting this way anymore. They are rubbing off on would be decent women now and it’s scary.
But there is a growing minority of women who are slowly waking up to the fact they are making THEMSELVES miserable. It might take a long time but it’s starting to happen.
*Right on with above.
Years ago I would have. Both sides of the political ideology believed in making America great they just differed on what was the best way to do it. Nothing wrong with that.
But right now its a whole different ball game and the country is more divided than it has ever been in my lifetime. The Harris-Biden administration has taken the country to the brink of civil war. So no, anyone who supports the Democrat's Marxist, divide and destroy America agenda would not be of interest to me.
I probably could because that’s my relationship with my mother and we still get along great. I’m a centrist and she’s more far right and have little arguments over politics but they don’t last
Why are you people so obsessed with politics? left side, right side. Who cares!! People that stick to a side are weird. All politics sucks sweaty ⚽⚽. They're all corrupted and upside down, no matter who you vote for. And why is it always rich old useless men? Especially in murica! I wouldn't date a girl that cared so much about that lo.
In America, conservative men outnumber conservative women by about two to one. And leftist women outnumber leftist men by about two to one.
So at least in America, a lot of people are going to have to choose between dating/marrying someone who sees the world differently than they do, or dying alone.
I don't think so. I like open minded skeptics, not brainwashed ideologues. Same with religion.
I suppose it would depend on just how far off our politics are from each other. I don't think you need to be in total agreement on everything, but at least *some* middle ground is probably a good idea.
I would. I would probably prefer to, at this point. All the liberal women around me are spiteful, heavily medicated nutcases. At least with a conservative girl, I can argue with someone grounded in reality.
I believe that men and women are different, many political things don't effect the relationship. If she against kids it can easily be a deal breaker, others things are less important.
These days? Unlikely. I listen to arguments supported by data. I have no patience for conspiracy theories about scientists, fake news, and the "deep state".
I tried it once and I will not ever do it again. One of her dealbreakers was for me to vote for her side and she had a hard time listening to my opinions. Plus, my family leans too heavily one way so if we proceeded further, there’d be too many issues.
It depends how opinionated or fanatical they are. I couldn't date someone who I would consider to be overly opinionated politically.
I’m pretty moderate/libertarian leaning so I’d prefer my partner be around that, I couldn’t be with anyone too extreme left/right
Yes as long as the person isn't radicalized and doesn't make to his main goal to influence or change my political opinions.
Yes, but I won't date a narcissist who is trying to pass off her narcissism as a political opinion just because that's what Trump gets away with.
In the past, yes. Not today though. Too divisive. It would be easier for me as a Christian to date a fundamental muslim than a leftie
It never would have occurred to me ten years ago but today I would never date a liberal. They are not liberals anymore, they are crazy.
The very mention of politics would be enough to make me walk out. I will walk out even quicker if he is a right-wing nutter.
I presume my woman will be more liberally minded than I am. That's just statistics. This new age of political opposition where half want my candidate executed... maybe not. Polarization is definitely a problem to worry about.
I'm a white girl who learns conservative, especially on the economy. But lately I've really only been hooking up with black guys, who are mostly liberal.
Far left people just seem way too stupid. I cannot.
I don’t bring politics and beliefs to the relationship, so yeah. Why not.
I would not. However, James Carville and Mary Matalin have been making it work for over 30 years.
if they can give a logical justification to why they align with one side politically, then yes
if not and it's just a bunch of emotions, propaganda and outrage, nah
I'm enough confident in my political views to give them a acid test.
However most people with too differing political views wouldn't want to date me.
For me, no. It is cultural as well as political now. Women have gone left and men right.
I think it would depend on how far apart we were.
What's sad is this question has been asked to death. Like literally over and over and over, and so on.
there can be some differences but i won't date somone who disagrees with me on all the fundamental stuff.
My SO is more conservative than me but tbh she despises politics and everything with it. She often votes the person not the policies.
Honestly no. Cause talking about politics will turn to yelling then arguing over it and then bam break up.
Of course. I’m sure we’d have incredible conversations in between, well, you know… I’d love to got with @jennz6 😉
Yes, provided they were mature about it and respected my views.
Yes, as long as she was not a full-blown authoritarian / totalitarian or a racist.
Yes I've dated teachers who didn’t align with me before
Debate how respectful she is of my political views. I can respect hers. But that doesn't mean it'd be mutual.
well for guys it is easier but women have the hate thing so I don't think it will work
Yes as long she doesn't believe in crazy extreme ish.
I'm a non-voter, but, no. rgis has become about reality vs reality.
I think I've ONLY dated girls who don't align with me politically.
As long as both parties are respectful about it I would be ok with that
Fuq yes, date, no. I need a woman with a job that pays taxes and has assets. They can't be Democrats
I won’t date anyone that is far left or even a democrat or Rino at all.
No, they would have to share the same values as me
Absolutely not.
Hell to the no I would not 🚫
@debbiedenise is paledreams wrong or right or 50 50 Debbie? Hehehe 😂
Yes, I would! Love > Politics.
yes as long as they were not MAGA or Antifa
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