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eh, I kind of like assholes, not gonna lie. I have a complicated thing going on with an asshole right now but he keeps stringing me along (a problem with assholes I've come across..)
also, by asshole, I don't mean a guy that abuses his girl but a guy that is bold and can be a bit of a troublemaker and rather opinionated. a guy that isn't afraid to argue.
as for abusive assholes, there's nothing ok with that.
I'm a nice guy and the reason why I don't become an asshole is because I can't- its not who I am.
It won't work because I am a genuine person who simply cannot understand why a girl would enjoy being treated like a lesser being...it doesn't logically make sense to me and I'm not going to pretend it does.
haha :)
Nice guys are, well, nice...but boring.
Jerk-offs are hott...but annoying after a while.
(i'm a pretty, "nice girl" (for the most part) if that changes anything. ha)
The ideal guy is a guy that can be nice when we need it but isn't always perfect...
insecure girls will give the bad boys sex. if you want sex being a jerk IS a better option.
but if you really like the girl you guys need to just be ...a man.
hmm, let me explain: Think Jack Bauer, no joke! He is the epitamy of
malehood...he's sensitive when needed but a real jerk when neccassarry too. (that's perfection.)
i want, and think most girls would agree, a guy who most definatley would hold me if he saw I needed it and who would tell me off if I was being a complete B*tch. . . . . I could get into this more, but I won't.
I love how you said that about Jack Bauer.... I heart Jack :)
Jack Bauer is a good example, and there are way too few guys are real men. Real men aren't jerks; hey have a somewhat tough exterior but they fight for their women and care for them and do nice things for them. I think some girls don't realize there SOME guys who just want sex. I personally don't see how, but there are. It would be nice if people stopped focusing on the problems of the opposite sex and find a partner without the problems they complain about.
Because most women eventually get bored of the treatment and give up on the asshole. The nice thing about assholes is you can use them for sex and throw them away without a second thought. They tend to wind up alone and bitter.
Enjoy.
Most guys want sex so I don't see how that's bad, and the majority of women keep coming back, they want him but he doesn't want them.
Right, when you're 20. It changes over time. Once the cute wears off, not so much.
Oh I will get married eventually
nothing is wrong with being an asshole...unless you are an asshole to me, then we might have to box
LOL I like your answer
It depends what you want: quality or quantity. If you just want girls just for sex, never mind the fact that they are usually the ones who are emotionally unstable and have no self worth then it would benefit you to be a jerk. You would probably get more girls in sheer numbers, but the quality of those girls might not be so good.
Men who treat women with respect get a better quality of woman because she knows her worth and won't settle for less.
your a jerk huh? well the jerks are the ones that will eventually end up single and alone. and the girls they get are crazy or unstable. the nice guys might have to wait awhile but when they do get a girl, she'll be worth it.
I might not end up 'getting' as many girls as you, but I just happen to be a fan of being a good egg and expecting people to treat me as I would treat them.
And hows that working out for you if its good for you then cool, personally I don't like haveing women as just my friend, saying your so nice, such a good guy, so sweet, any girl would want you, and yet the women you want by being so nice only gets you friendship. Me I will be an ass straight up and they love it, they can't get enough and the more I push them the more they want it. It's really that simple.
Yeah, they don't treat you as you treat them though. In fact, in my experience they treat you the opposite of how you treat them. Be nice, she will treat you like dirt. Be a dick, and she will beg for your affection. I'm talking about girls here, of course. Guys aren't so f***ing conflicted; be a dick to a guy and they say "what the f*** is your problem."
my boyfriend is one I the nice guys and that's all I want :) I've seen how crap my mums relationship is with my stepdad because he is an asshole and really violent and I hope you aren't violent to these women who "keep coming back"
the nice guy does get the girl in the end everytime, because women want security so the jerk may get them in the beginning but as a girl gets older and wants marriage kids etc that jerk has got to go.
personally except my mum no girl I know wants a jerk every friend in a relationship I know has one of the good guys. I wouldn't want an asshole! lol what would be the point of a miserable relationship?
i hope one day you find what your looking for :)
Some girls get captured by the relationships they are in with jerks and mean people but if you are a total jerk everyone will end up hating you someday in the future. Girls usually go for those guys because they feel they are "cool" and end up being dumped, those girls are the ones who end up pregnant at 16 and even 14(my mom was adopted because her mom was 14 when she had her and wasn't allowed to keep her all because she was with someone who pressured her into it,aka,the jerk) so its better in the long run to be the nice guy
Nothing wrong with it. I dislike guys who treat me badly, so I don't stick around for it.
Some girls think they deserve to be treated bad, and they find guys to treat them so.
The nice guys who finish last, are the type who won't go out and find a girl.
the nice guys are never good lookinig, but the jerks are jerks because they are good looking and they know that they can get any girl...jerks become jerks mostly because they always get compliments like "oh ur so handsome" or "oh ur so cute" so they just know they can get any girl even if they're jerks. so its not that girls like jerks, they just like good looking guys. and nice guys are nice because people don't usually treat them the way they should be treated just because of the way they look...so they act nice because they want to be treated the way they treat others...and they think they can get girls by being nice even if they are not good looking.
if you disagree...tell me why, I might be wrong.
Again, what is a "nice" guy? I know plenty of sociable, pleasant guys who are loyal and caring. The ugly and antisocial guys don't talk to girls and get called "nice guys", even though many of them are passive aggressive and secretly hate women. You're the girl, but I think it's more the personality of the jerk than his looks. Besides, guys get better looking as they age, but jerks can always get insecure girls regardless of how bad they look from decades of hard living.
It does depend on what we mean by "nice." I don't cheat on my girlfriend, don't physically or verbally abuse her, and enjoy paying her compliments, making her dinner, and generally doing kind things for her. Does that count as nice?
If so, then you're wrong. My current girlfriend and several exes have worked as models. I'm not, but I'm a reasonably good-looking guy. I've been told plenty of times that I'm hotter than that Twilight guy :P
i seriously doubt you've ever got a girl in your life and if you have I doubt their very intelligent and nothing more than a one night stand because girls only go out with assholes for the short term thrill not for a lifetime and that's what we all want in the end - someone for a lifetime not a lifetime of assholes
I like how you said girls want a nice guy in the end. It's like when your young and beautiful you go for build jerk, when you get old you go for the nice guy that will love you lol.
What do you mean that nice guys have lower standards that we will meet when we get old?
I do agree with Yuriy; girls are more insecure when they're young (it's easy to see why), and that's when the date the jerks. Of course the insecure girls who agree to be treated like crap aren't around for long. As an guy who's engaged, I would think a girl would want to limit the dating of jerks so the long-term guy doesn't catch on to a pattern of insecurity and not want to be with them
Obviously you're right, and I do have a friend that is the perfect guy except he's too nice. I will be telling him to become an asshole. Thanks for the advice, I hope we don't create a monster. lol. I'll keep you updated.
You might have an education - But an education doesn't play the role you have in your love life. Relations and education are totally different things..
okay first of all WTF is your problem. Your a sad excuse for a man. Guys like you make me wana gag and come on not all girls go for assholes like you. so get over yourself you sound pathetic
Well the thing is. MOST women do go for the jerks. ANd the there's the minority of the women who don't like jerks and prefer the nice guy.
ive seen it time and time again, and its true that if a nice guy can change his behavior and try to be more of an asshole he could probably get one of those girls from the Majority and with greater success and more rapidly than if he was a nice guy trying to find of the girls belonging to the minority. Of course, this is how you see it OBJECTIVELY.
You women are complicated
see, there's a difference between being an asshole and being an utter bastard. If you can keep a decent moral standing (like not randomly beating people, not being a general thug, etc.) you've found a nice balance that can be worked with. At that point it doesn't really matter though. Still, for the sake of the rest of society, let's not encourage guys to shift towards that utter bastard level, shall we?
If you wanna get laid and get a girlfriend you gotta bend the rules, but if you want to stay single all your life, well stay a nice guy and keep on doing what your doing.
They want the alpha male (jerk) for his genes, and the nice guy to actually conduct the child rearing. No wonder they're so damn confused.
By the way awesome job at getting all these people all riled up tex, pretty damn lulzy.
lmfao
first off
thx for posting this question
cause I'm one of the non-assholes
lol
but yea
girls go to the spontaneous guys cause its always exciting
then me the nice guys
and there have been to many times
that a girl says to me or one of my friends
say ''idk y I always fall for the assholes''
and I always wanna say "well here's a great guy who would never make you cry or w..e" but
i never do and say
"well he needs to realize what a great girl you are"
and yea...
I misunderstand what you mean.. do you mean you are a jerk to women? or a jerk with others, but nice to women.
Deffinantly not nice to women and I can a jerk to others if they p*ss me off.
Woww I don't know why people waste their time talking to this guy - He has no common sense of life.
yeah yu get f*** buddies but yu never fall in love. I'm a good nice guy I never disrespect girl and I get mad girls but that's because I got game. and the oonly time I'm a dick to a girl isto show her that shed be unhappy without me in her life
I don't see how this can be a problem. All nice guys are assholes some times. I'm sure they get love.
I think when a guy is a jerk it makes him 'hard to get' and that's attractive to a lot of girls. But still, women deserve respect. Don't push it.
Anyone, male or female, deserves as much respect as they demand. You have to love yourself to be loved.
Just like we all get paid what we're worth, etc.
What the heck is this doing in the flirting section? Shouldn't it be under 'behaviour'? Or 'Insecure rants'? Or something? :-)
Haha, ud think, but its got to do with how a guy flirts in whether he uses the nice approach or the mean approach... behaviour would be "why is he still acting like a bad guy, when I really want a good guy"?
Yeah, I get that but it's not really about a flirting style it's about an outlook or an opinion of women and "getting them" which this guy quite obviously doesn't...but I better keep schtum as he seems to get quite defensive at any disagreement. I think it just shows that it can't be right, he says he tells girls upfront 'how it is' and they like it but he's done exactly that on here and it's not really recieved an particularly acceptive review from the ladies...or the guys! Oh dear.
I still think ur original answer was funny, and yeah you really do have to tell people how it is, otherwise theyre clueless, yeah it may be blunt, but its the truth, isn't it?
the jerk may date the girl for while but the nice guy will marry her, end of story. lol
Really? And what make believe world do you live in? It's not all sunshine and rainbows out there, this isn't a fairytale this is the real world.
I would know because I see it happen. your just dating women who don't know what kind of guy is good for them that's why they keep coming back. the women your dating don't know their self well enough, her self-esteem is low. that's the kind of women that keep coming back haha
Actually I have dated women with very high self asteem, and intelligent. And they say things like they tend to break nice guys hearts, because they are to nice and a push over to them, and I say well it's a good thing I am not nice then. I don't beat women or anything but I'm not a nice guy and they know they can't walk all over me and they say that's what they want, they want a guy with a backbone who won't put up with their crap. It's my way not their way, that's just how it is.
Ok you got a point, it depends on the womans needs I guess.
Wow
".....Actually I have dated women with very high self asteem, and intelligent. And they say things like they tend to break nice guys hearts, ....."
Further proof of my point in my previous response to you. Intelligent women brought up in loving families don't "tend to break nice guys heart". You are nowhere near "normal, smart" women. You don't even know what they are like, anyone can tell from reading what you wrote (see above).
Oh so if a girl rejects a guy because he is to nice, has no backbone and she can walk all over them, she is stupid? I'm pretty sure most women on her won't agree with you. Am I supposed to get their entire background when I meet them, some girls are crazy some arent. Here's an example of a crazy, if she tells you she loves you on a first date, yes that is crazy, and it has happend to me before, but when a girl goes for a guy who well acts like a guy and not some pussy, that is normal.
"...Oh so if a girl rejects a guy because he is to nice, has no backbone and she can walk all over them, she is stupid? I'm pretty sure most women on her won't agree with you."
She is ignorant, not intellectually stupid. There is a difference. "Walk all over him" signals that she is abusive in nature, of high likelihood it has to do with her upbringing. Birds of the same feather flock together. Meaning, she hasn't, and won't, meet a nice guy with backbone, if she doesn't heal herself.
Ya there's a ton of women out there who abusive to guys... Wtf are you talking about, how many man beating women do you know? If a girl who is not a body builder or has any kind of self defense training can kick your ass, that is just funny. She is ignorant because she rejects a guy who is overly nice and she's not attracted to? And how many gfs have you had? And what exactly is self healing? Do I need to become one with myself though zen or some crap, sorry I am not a hippie.
How many people are starving in Africa ? If you live in Africa, and you are cloistered, you will say "people must be starving everywhere on this planet". You are in a situation like this. You, as a victim of family abuse who haven't healed himself, will never attract women of that calibre to you. I have dated enough not only non-absuive, but kind, highly educated and intelligent women to tell you this --- they are in a totally different circle, totally inaccessible to people like you.
"And what exactly is self healing? Do I need to become one with myself though zen or some crap, sorry I am not a hippie"
Self-healing is for those who have abused by "nagging and bitching mothers", who grew up with fathers lamenting "life is tough", for those who justifiy their abusing women with "how many man beating women do you know?"... In short, wounded animals which attack others because that know no better. Search the internet for further information in this area.
i totally agree for some reason its just hotter but as of being a girls were also hopeing that there is a nice part of that jerk side if that was to be true id say that's pretty frikin awsome
Okay you are a egotistical bitch. I personally go for the nice guys. If I were to meet a guy like you, I would punch you in the face. If you're gonna just toy around with girls, you might as well just stop dating altogether until you learn to respect girls.
i nvr go to the assholes I love my men sweet=]
like my coffee. assholes are for stupid girls, I'm smarter then that. I respect myself.
I thought when a girl says that she likes her man like her coffee she means she wants her man to be black and strong
That 2=)
She means she likes them sweet because she likes her coffee sweet.
People who say they like their men like their coffee black and strong is totally different..
You can have different kinds of coffees lol
It's nice to hear. I don't blame girls for going for a-holes any more, because I see all the crap in the media that makes girls insecure practically from birth. But I still won't date a girl with a history of jerks, because it comes with lots of baggage that will effect me. So I'm happy you are wise in this regard.
yes I like my men sweet like my coffee but I don't mind black coffee/men ;)
I love this question.
I love it SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much.
this might be a littl late but the majority of girls love secretly assholes... the end =]. the reason they do is because the nce guy is there to boost there esteem and make em feel better so they get nice guy and jerk... its a combo pavkage
you've got it figured out. too well, maybe. nice guys are just jealous and women don't know what they want. you're the only one who is being honest, so kudos.
Do you know why the Jerks always get the nice guys? Because they usually have more confidence and assertiveness than nice guys.
Lol well sorry to pop your bubble, but you can have 100 degrees and still not know shit. Kinda like how you think women love assholes. Lmfao I'm a nice guy with an edge and I never had to be a jerk to get what I wanted.
guys are assholes period. regardless of wether they are nice or not, its just what they do. and you seem to be a big one, one might even dare to call you a chode
Not all guys are a-holes, so if you think that, you are quite possibly the type of insecure girl who goes for the jerks and then says "all" guys are like that. In reality, it is only "all" guys in your universe of attraction, but since you determine who you date, it's you that's the issue. And, yes, the OP is a jerk.
So True, ALL GUYS ARE ASSHOLES PERIOD,
Of course, that is so true! All guys are assholes!
And all girls are sluts, all blacks are criminals, all whites are powerhungry, America's only populated by idiots while Europe's the center of "we-know-everything-and-and-we-don't-care-about-you".
Really. It's true.
Haha that's awesome! And true at the same time!
girls are sluts period. regardless of weather they are slutty or not, its just what they do. and you seem to be a big one. one might even dare to call you a cum-stained whore.
What's wrong with being a 13itch? I think your answer lies in THAT question.
Yeah MOST girls like the asshole, but not all of them, you just have to look for them. You need to be yourself. If you really aren't an asshole, don't act like it. Plus a lot of those girls who like the assholes are so not worth it in the long run.
I think your entire question is just an excuse to dis the "nice guys". Just because we're "nice" doesn't mean we aren't confident or assertive.
i think we like the asshole cus theyr usualy the hawt ones and they make us feel special cus out of all the girls they chose us nand ther like that bad boys..wat girl dusnt like a bad boy?!?
yo dude wanna give me some tips about being a prick to girls?
i'm a chick and I always seem to like the assholes...my ex use to say "tTREAT 'EM RUFF TO GET THE MUFF"...however this does get old after awhile...
You are my hero. How can I be like you? How can I learn from you? Teach.
Wow!
Your question and comments display your complete depravity. You seem to have a very low view of women, and seem to perceive women as an "animal" that needs to be sexually conquered.
have you ever read or heard of the book called "The Way of the Superior Man" by David Deida?
No
Wow you really are an asshole and not I'm a good way. I don't care what you look like I would date you if someone payed me.
Girls like the chase too, the chase for your attention. If you're giving it to us, eh alright thanks. If you're not, we'll be attached and crave your attention. That's how it works.
hmmm...well if my boyfriend was an asshole/jerk I wouldn't date him. I'm one of the few that actually DO go for the nice guy (but then corrupt him LOL)
Why would I want to be anything like you?
i like this rant.
it's very realistic.
Your parents should check their plumbing. I think you drank a lot of lead as a child.
lol you rock bro. keep up the fight.
100% true... although there is that happy medium.
What's wrong with being a bitch towards you?
Nothing, they can try but they will fail.
obvious troll is obvious. lulz
be an inbetween.