With the subjects we are learning, yes. I think up until middle school and high school, we should request what subjects we want to learn. If we don't want to learn anything, then the current subjects are mandatory to be taught.
Like, a student who wants to study cosmetology, can make a request to study in that field. The students who want to learn how to play an instrument or two without needing to or having to join the school's band can make a request to study in that field.
The subjects that are really very helpful in life are mathematics, science, social studies, biology (which I think is a kind of science), World History, health (which I still think is a kind of science) and English/ELA.
We do need to know how to do math; for financial reasons. We do need to learn about science. Any type of science. Social studies, because we do need to know about our Presidents and stuff. (I think World History is social studies. Why not bring in British Literature for the students who want to write books and novels and perhaps movie scripts and plays? English is defiantly a must-learn subject; we need to learn how to read and write (and for Grammarly purposes; cause these motherfuckers these days don't know how to spell. Which proves that they have been lacking).
I won't say astrology (not zodiacs, but stars and constellations and the origins of the stars) because I believe that's the subject for people who wants to know about them.
School wouldn't be so boring if they just let us, the ones who want to learn some things that'll actually get us somewhere, pick what we want to study and have for subjects.
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It’s pointless , it’s prison, it’s a concentration camp!
Because they think they’re teaching everyone the same thing over and over. But everyone doesn’t learn the same way. Everyone isn’t the same. Some people have OCD, someone people have ADHD or ADD. Some people have traumas and depression and such.
Its not natural to be forced to sit on a desk for 7 hours each and every day for 18 years and then do it for 4 more years of college.
It’s not natural!
The American school system is pretty bad. I think education is important and socializing kids is a cornerstone of a good society but my personal experience with school was more akin to prison. It was like a punishment and at the end it felt about as useful. It was like finishing a 12 year career to start into a new career in a separate field that I knew nothing about. Luckily I took time to plan ahead and was able to emerge from the giant cluster fuck of an experience with no debt. For those who go into specialized fields and get an education in that area or are in the world of academia for the pursuit of knowledge, I understand that. However I was one of the ones who was basically forced into the mutated Prussian-esque school system and hated most of it. It’s as soul stealing as a hated career or prison sentence in my mind and did little to enrich his my life. Personally I feel like I would have been a better person had I just gone to school to learn to read and do arithmetic rather than be subjugated to years and years of pointless drivel.
No, school is not pointless if you are in a school that concentrated on teaching you the basic skills, reading, writing, maths etc for life and to going on to college/university if that's your choice or going a vocational route you will need those skills in both tracks.
But if your school is one that is pushing the current fashion of the Woke/CRT agenda then you will be lacking the basic skills, because the ‘teachers’ pushing that agenda are not interested in teaching you the basic skills, but instead indoctrinating you to their agenda, if this is the case and you cannot move from that school find out what the school syllabus is supposed to be, and start educating yourself, even if that means taking night classes.
The basic skills are the ones that will get you started in what ever career you want to do, there are a lot of ‘teachers’ today who do not have your best interests at heart, so ultimately your education is up to you.
Good luck with your future, its yours to win or loose.
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Education has unfortunately become a monopoly. The amount of schooling truly required actually depends on what field you want to work in, but everyone's given an extremely inefficient and blanket encouragement to go for some four-year degree. If it's clerical work, that's the least amount. Computer experience and excel spreadsheets. If it's blue-collar work, see trade schools. STEM degrees are mainly for those wanting to work in big-name tech/engineering firms.
1. Highschool advisory almost always encourages the four-year Bachelor's degree, because of #4.
2. Students in college are usually still discovering what their interests are, and by the time the realize it's too expensive to switch majors.
3. Job recruiters still use outdated metrics like GPA (gauges interest in major, not work ethic) and organizations don't scrutinize what listings actually needs a Bachelors' and what doesn't. They need to stop slapping a four-year degree requirement on everything.
4. Many people often end up in jobs not related, or barely related to their major, and end up using very little of what they learned.
5. A lot of the jobs that don't require a four-year degree don't pay satisfactory amounts: the service industry is blatantly underpaid, and blue-collar workers are only a step up, receiving little enough that they stay angry at any suggestions to raise wages for service workers.
You can see how this is extremely broken and has created a hellish feedback loop.College is. I learned a lot of words from high school and the years in school before that. I'm glad I learned those words and the stuff I did. But I hated school growing up. I was more interested in psychology. I think kids should be able to choose what they want to learn and study in their own.
Last year I decided not to got college and instead traveled for a few months and then began to just study what I was interested in. Learning should be fun and exciting. If you don't enjoy what you are learning, why should you have to learn it? Simply to prove you can do things that you don't like so that an employer will know that you can do a job you don't like without quitting. Society has so many issues lol. Just follow your heart. Graduate as fast as you can (online school or ged) and then find a job you enjoy and learn what you enjoy learning about, even if it's just a skill or hobby.No, it definitely is important. Even the experience of school is important for things like social skills and teamwork, but they really need to sort out the subjects because most subjects taught in school doesn't really apply to the real world. When I was in high school I'd have happily traded some of the useless subjects for something like Life Skills, how to manage money, paying taxes, stuff like that, but no, we're taught stuff like French (I don't live in france),
Spanish (I don't live in Spain),
RE (I'm not religious and shouldn't be forced to learn about it),
Dance (I dance like a newborn giraffe)
The point is, school is important when its applied properly but most schools are stupidI’d say the basic skills they teach you like math, reading, spelling are necessary but complicated math like geometry and calculus and algebra 2 or pretty pointless unless you’re aiming for a career that involves those or just trying to have ur transcript looking fancy for future colleges/universities. But one of the best classes I took hands down in high school was personal finance, this will teach you all the real life stuff like taxes, financing, loans, interest, investing all those complicated things that are vital for having a stable healthy financial life. College and more is only for those that know exactly what career they want that they will need that degree no matter what to get that job like doctors and lawyers. Don’t end up going to college with no intentions on what to do and just doing it for 2 years to get the same job as the ones who didn’t go but now you gotta pay a massive debt back and worse of all not getting the time back.
As the job market currently is? Yes. Subjects need to be streamlined. You can learn more history from YT and wiki articles then anything they will teach in school and far faster and easier. Also they feed kids this ns about dreaming big and doing anything. That's not hot it works for 90% of the population. My friend's sister was a straight 4.0 honorole through high school. She has since been a waitress and sprint sales associate. So much for that one. I myself was in the top percentile for reading comprehension and literature. My crowning job title was produce manager. We need classes on investments, crypto, business management, robotics, etc etc. Y'know... Things worth our damn time to begin with. Shakespeare ain't gonna get food to your table. Neither is plate tectonics. And I don't know why they spent more time talking about Hitler in history class than anyone else. If I learned about him freshman year I don't need to revisit him again and again for another 3 years.
No it is not pointless. That is an extemely ignorant thing to say. Almost everything we know is because someone invented it or discovered it. A large amount of these inventions and discoveries could not have possibly be made by someone with no formal education. I admit, some subjects can easily seem pointless, but at a young age we aren't capable of knowing what our true interests are. I dont know what country you are from, but I have heard that the American school system is bad, and that is probably fixable, and that doesn't mean school and getting an education is pointless.
School is shit but it is important to have a reasonable level of literacy and mathematical skills. There is a lot of additional knowledge which isn't as important.
An important element often neglected is analytical thinking and the ability to figure things out yourself.
I also think a lot of practical things are missing from most education systems. Children should be taught to cook, what the best options on a washing machine are, how to change a tyre, fill out a tax return and other things which come up in everyday life.In a way yes but also no.
As a student in their last year old secondary school before college I’m glad school exists from a social stand point. I’m not a people person so school pushes me out of my comfort zone everyday. However some subjects are just stupid in my opinion and can definitely be taken out of schools.
I don’t see the point in exams. I know they are to see if you are listening in class and how much you have learned but I certainly have no interest in taking biology and Home Ec exams. I like the subjects but not enough to be like “right I gotta study all night for this test”
I think the core subjects of the only should have exams the rest should just be if you listen, you’ll know and if you don’t that’s on you but no exams for them
i have no idea if that makes sense but yeahYes, beyond a certain point. School does teach some important things, like how to read, write, basic math and what it is like to be around a bunch of other idiots. However, once you start progressing into Algebra, Geometry and certain other "advanced" subjects, there is no point. NONE of that crap is practical in most people's lives and there are better things that could be taught.
if you feel like cooking french fries for the next 50 years, yes, school is pointless. But I do agree now that we have "equity" initiatives and participation trophy culture, it is not going to prepare intellectually competent children the way it did 30 years ago
somewhat. it doesn't teach enough valuable life lessons, however it trains your brain and helps it develop. just imagine how stupid teenagers would be if they never even had school, they'd be degrading too much at that point since they would never have to use their brain for anything.
it depends on what information you find to be useful
every subject has it's own door to becoming something in life, but schools don't have this system where you could choose your subjects which makes school a pain in the ass and pretty much pointlessHigh school was pointless. It barely prepared me for college.
If I could do it over again, I'd have skipped the four years of high school and simply gone on to college.I hated every minute that I was there, and during those long 12 years, I hardly learnt a thing, because the environment wasn't at all conducive to the retention of knowledge. It was noisy, distressing, and confusing. Rules weren't applied consistently, the teachers were psychotic, and I just did not want to be there.
I basically taught myself everything I know, and if I had my way school wouldn't be compulsory.The primary purpose of public schools is indoctrination; not education and our master excel at indoctrinating students, to graduate without critical thinking abilities, and to be obedient serfs that will believe without question the government lies. One hundred years ago, 8th grade students were far better educated than today's public high school graduates.
Even if the questions were updated to modern terminology, less that 1% of public school graduate could pass this following 1895 8th grade exam.
https://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/p_test/1895_Eightgr_test.htmNo, I don't think school is pointless
LOL! To be that young and foolish again.
No. School isn't pointless on many levels. Those that believe it is, frankly, don't get it. Many struggle and start down a path that makes their life more difficult than it has to be.
School is about learning. Not about just one thing in particular. It's about learning to appreciate an education and hopefully a process that will continue the rest of one's life.
You'll find that, in many cases, those that embrace the experience and succeed within school are more likely to succeed in many other areas of their life.I think the most important thing about going to school is learning to socialize with all kinds of people, learning to solve your problems, learning to be responsible, growing. The rest could be learnt at home, but I'd prefer my kid to go to school even if they teach that bs gender and race stuff, me knowing I would have to undo some brainwashing when they come back home, but it's worth it.
It was for me. And it was very stressful for me. I spent more time in the nurse's office than I did in the classroom. I detested school,
all of them.No I think the system doesn't teach enough hands on trades and skills and the students don't pay attention. The current system hasn't utilize or accounted for the advances in technology that make cheating easier.
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