
Do you think school is pointless?


With the subjects we are learning, yes. I think up until middle school and high school, we should request what subjects we want to learn. If we don't want to learn anything, then the current subjects are mandatory to be taught.
Like, a student who wants to study cosmetology, can make a request to study in that field. The students who want to learn how to play an instrument or two without needing to or having to join the school's band can make a request to study in that field.
The subjects that are really very helpful in life are mathematics, science, social studies, biology (which I think is a kind of science), World History, health (which I still think is a kind of science) and English/ELA.
We do need to know how to do math; for financial reasons. We do need to learn about science. Any type of science. Social studies, because we do need to know about our Presidents and stuff. (I think World History is social studies. Why not bring in British Literature for the students who want to write books and novels and perhaps movie scripts and plays? English is defiantly a must-learn subject; we need to learn how to read and write (and for Grammarly purposes; cause these motherfuckers these days don't know how to spell. Which proves that they have been lacking).
I won't say astrology (not zodiacs, but stars and constellations and the origins of the stars) because I believe that's the subject for people who wants to know about them.
School wouldn't be so boring if they just let us, the ones who want to learn some things that'll actually get us somewhere, pick what we want to study and have for subjects.
It’s pointless , it’s prison, it’s a concentration camp!
Because they think they’re teaching everyone the same thing over and over. But everyone doesn’t learn the same way. Everyone isn’t the same. Some people have OCD, someone people have ADHD or ADD. Some people have traumas and depression and such.
Its not natural to be forced to sit on a desk for 7 hours each and every day for 18 years and then do it for 4 more years of college.
It’s not natural!
Also a lot of bullying happens more often than not. Some people are mostly worrying about who’s gonna pick on them or put them down. And when you’re a teenager the only thing in your mind is sex.
You shouldn’t be inside that concentration camp. Also, once your parents hear that your failings class A or B or whatever they become aggressive af. My parents did , and I contemplated suicide because of it several times. My dad wanted me to finish my homework with a belt on his hands.
Everything about those prisons was absolutely stressful. I was one of the rejects. I many times wanted to shoot my Dad dead and escape into the woods. But then what. I’d end up a homeless or an actual prisoner in prison.
Yeah I didn't pay attention to anything the teacher was saying, wasn't interesting enough and I didn't care.. I was pretty much looking at the clock for an hour straight waiting for the class to be over, it was torture
And that was every class, it's messed up
@Idiotikhumanz I ended up graduating alongside the rest of those assholes, class of 2016 .
Of course once I was practically forced and scared into submission and doing after class courses and such. I had severe ADD all along. I had no idea I was suffering from a mental disorder until after I graduated. That’s too late.
My crushes and many of my friends all had A. P courses and advanced courses. I felt like a retard all throughout school just because I was slow and suffering from that sh! t.
School is a prison. College is a prison. And afterwards you have to go work at another prison. If you live with your parents because you have no money to move out on your own. You live in a prison. If you’re parents aren’t rich enough to buy you your own house or apartment like many kids I’ve seen. You live in a prison.
well i went to a shitty high school so i had no homework freshman and sophomore year but come junior year i did none of the useless homework and got straight d's but i didn't care becuz it's irreleveant and steve jobs had a 2.65.
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K-12 is not 18 years of school. It is more like 13 years. College is 4+ years depending on the degree if its a Bachelor's, Master's or Doctorate. People also go to trade school.
You compared school to prison. School is 5 days a week while prison is 7 days a week. You go to and leave from school each day and on weekends you don't go to school, but you stay stay at prison once there until you're realese date that is unlease you are there for the rest of your life.
After 12th grade not all go to college which is 4+ years depending on if you go gor a Bachelor's Degree, Master's Degree or a Doctorate. Some go to trade school which takes less time than college to complete. Others go to the military or work.
Not all parents got aggressive at there child for failing at least one class.
School has it positives while concentration camps were just torture and death.
Not everyone thinks living with parents and or school and or work feels like what they think prison is like. You seem to have a hatred for school, work and living with parents.
I could say more but will leave it at that.
@MysteriousDarkness School and work, and living under certain families is person with some freedom sprinkled on top. You’re probably one of those people with high IQ, top-notch grades, popularity and so on. Probably didn’t suffer any traumas and mental problems.
You alone can’t be compared to absolutely everyone else. If it felt natural for you to be sat down on a desk for 7 hours every day , doesn’t mean it felt right to the next person.
@MysteriousDarkness not everyone is a robot like you
The American school system is pretty bad. I think education is important and socializing kids is a cornerstone of a good society but my personal experience with school was more akin to prison. It was like a punishment and at the end it felt about as useful. It was like finishing a 12 year career to start into a new career in a separate field that I knew nothing about. Luckily I took time to plan ahead and was able to emerge from the giant cluster fuck of an experience with no debt. For those who go into specialized fields and get an education in that area or are in the world of academia for the pursuit of knowledge, I understand that. However I was one of the ones who was basically forced into the mutated Prussian-esque school system and hated most of it. It’s as soul stealing as a hated career or prison sentence in my mind and did little to enrich his my life. Personally I feel like I would have been a better person had I just gone to school to learn to read and do arithmetic rather than be subjugated to years and years of pointless drivel.
No, school is not pointless if you are in a school that concentrated on teaching you the basic skills, reading, writing, maths etc for life and to going on to college/university if that's your choice or going a vocational route you will need those skills in both tracks.
But if your school is one that is pushing the current fashion of the Woke/CRT agenda then you will be lacking the basic skills, because the ‘teachers’ pushing that agenda are not interested in teaching you the basic skills, but instead indoctrinating you to their agenda, if this is the case and you cannot move from that school find out what the school syllabus is supposed to be, and start educating yourself, even if that means taking night classes.
The basic skills are the ones that will get you started in what ever career you want to do, there are a lot of ‘teachers’ today who do not have your best interests at heart, so ultimately your education is up to you.
Good luck with your future, its yours to win or loose.
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Education has unfortunately become a monopoly. The amount of schooling truly required actually depends on what field you want to work in, but everyone's given an extremely inefficient and blanket encouragement to go for some four-year degree. If it's clerical work, that's the least amount. Computer experience and excel spreadsheets. If it's blue-collar work, see trade schools. STEM degrees are mainly for those wanting to work in big-name tech/engineering firms.
1. Highschool advisory almost always encourages the four-year Bachelor's degree, because of #4.
2. Students in college are usually still discovering what their interests are, and by the time the realize it's too expensive to switch majors.
3. Job recruiters still use outdated metrics like GPA (gauges interest in major, not work ethic) and organizations don't scrutinize what listings actually needs a Bachelors' and what doesn't. They need to stop slapping a four-year degree requirement on everything.
4. Many people often end up in jobs not related, or barely related to their major, and end up using very little of what they learned.
5. A lot of the jobs that don't require a four-year degree don't pay satisfactory amounts: the service industry is blatantly underpaid, and blue-collar workers are only a step up, receiving little enough that they stay angry at any suggestions to raise wages for service workers.
You can see how this is extremely broken and has created a hellish feedback loop.
College is. I learned a lot of words from high school and the years in school before that. I'm glad I learned those words and the stuff I did. But I hated school growing up. I was more interested in psychology. I think kids should be able to choose what they want to learn and study in their own.
Last year I decided not to got college and instead traveled for a few months and then began to just study what I was interested in. Learning should be fun and exciting. If you don't enjoy what you are learning, why should you have to learn it? Simply to prove you can do things that you don't like so that an employer will know that you can do a job you don't like without quitting. Society has so many issues lol. Just follow your heart. Graduate as fast as you can (online school or ged) and then find a job you enjoy and learn what you enjoy learning about, even if it's just a skill or hobby.
No, it definitely is important. Even the experience of school is important for things like social skills and teamwork, but they really need to sort out the subjects because most subjects taught in school doesn't really apply to the real world. When I was in high school I'd have happily traded some of the useless subjects for something like Life Skills, how to manage money, paying taxes, stuff like that, but no, we're taught stuff like French (I don't live in france),
Spanish (I don't live in Spain),
RE (I'm not religious and shouldn't be forced to learn about it),
Dance (I dance like a newborn giraffe)
The point is, school is important when its applied properly but most schools are stupid
@4522456 Nope, I literally don't have an instagram account
I’d say the basic skills they teach you like math, reading, spelling are necessary but complicated math like geometry and calculus and algebra 2 or pretty pointless unless you’re aiming for a career that involves those or just trying to have ur transcript looking fancy for future colleges/universities. But one of the best classes I took hands down in high school was personal finance, this will teach you all the real life stuff like taxes, financing, loans, interest, investing all those complicated things that are vital for having a stable healthy financial life. College and more is only for those that know exactly what career they want that they will need that degree no matter what to get that job like doctors and lawyers. Don’t end up going to college with no intentions on what to do and just doing it for 2 years to get the same job as the ones who didn’t go but now you gotta pay a massive debt back and worse of all not getting the time back.
School is shit but it is important to have a reasonable level of literacy and mathematical skills. There is a lot of additional knowledge which isn't as important.
An important element often neglected is analytical thinking and the ability to figure things out yourself.
I also think a lot of practical things are missing from most education systems. Children should be taught to cook, what the best options on a washing machine are, how to change a tyre, fill out a tax return and other things which come up in everyday life.
As the job market currently is? Yes. Subjects need to be streamlined. You can learn more history from YT and wiki articles then anything they will teach in school and far faster and easier. Also they feed kids this ns about dreaming big and doing anything. That's not hot it works for 90% of the population. My friend's sister was a straight 4.0 honorole through high school. She has since been a waitress and sprint sales associate. So much for that one. I myself was in the top percentile for reading comprehension and literature. My crowning job title was produce manager. We need classes on investments, crypto, business management, robotics, etc etc. Y'know... Things worth our damn time to begin with. Shakespeare ain't gonna get food to your table. Neither is plate tectonics. And I don't know why they spent more time talking about Hitler in history class than anyone else. If I learned about him freshman year I don't need to revisit him again and again for another 3 years.
The primary purpose of public schools is indoctrination; not education and our master excel at indoctrinating students, to graduate without critical thinking abilities, and to be obedient serfs that will believe without question the government lies. One hundred years ago, 8th grade students were far better educated than today's public high school graduates.
Even if the questions were updated to modern terminology, less that 1% of public school graduate could pass this following 1895 8th grade exam.
https://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/p_test/1895_Eightgr_test.htm
No it is not pointless. That is an extemely ignorant thing to say. Almost everything we know is because someone invented it or discovered it. A large amount of these inventions and discoveries could not have possibly be made by someone with no formal education. I admit, some subjects can easily seem pointless, but at a young age we aren't capable of knowing what our true interests are. I dont know what country you are from, but I have heard that the American school system is bad, and that is probably fixable, and that doesn't mean school and getting an education is pointless.
In a way yes but also no.
As a student in their last year old secondary school before college I’m glad school exists from a social stand point. I’m not a people person so school pushes me out of my comfort zone everyday. However some subjects are just stupid in my opinion and can definitely be taken out of schools.
I don’t see the point in exams. I know they are to see if you are listening in class and how much you have learned but I certainly have no interest in taking biology and Home Ec exams. I like the subjects but not enough to be like “right I gotta study all night for this test”
I think the core subjects of the only should have exams the rest should just be if you listen, you’ll know and if you don’t that’s on you but no exams for them
i have no idea if that makes sense but yeah
if you feel like cooking french fries for the next 50 years, yes, school is pointless. But I do agree now that we have "equity" initiatives and participation trophy culture, it is not going to prepare intellectually competent children the way it did 30 years ago
Yes, beyond a certain point. School does teach some important things, like how to read, write, basic math and what it is like to be around a bunch of other idiots. However, once you start progressing into Algebra, Geometry and certain other "advanced" subjects, there is no point. NONE of that crap is practical in most people's lives and there are better things that could be taught.
somewhat. it doesn't teach enough valuable life lessons, however it trains your brain and helps it develop. just imagine how stupid teenagers would be if they never even had school, they'd be degrading too much at that point since they would never have to use their brain for anything.
I hated every minute that I was there, and during those long 12 years, I hardly learnt a thing, because the environment wasn't at all conducive to the retention of knowledge. It was noisy, distressing, and confusing. Rules weren't applied consistently, the teachers were psychotic, and I just did not want to be there.
I basically taught myself everything I know, and if I had my way school wouldn't be compulsory.
it depends on what information you find to be useful
every subject has it's own door to becoming something in life, but schools don't have this system where you could choose your subjects which makes school a pain in the ass and pretty much pointless
High school was pointless. It barely prepared me for college.
If I could do it over again, I'd have skipped the four years of high school and simply gone on to college.
My understanding is that high school students now have a chance for dual enrollment which allows them to take more challenging college courses that are not offered at the high school level. In my case, I would have selected higher level mathematics classes, all of which I had to take during my first years in college (when I already had a full schedule), because those classes were not offered at my high school.
You sound like a smart young lady. Discuss this with your counselor (mine were worthless hacks) and explain that you have a life-plan, but the school curriculum doesn't offer classes that will help you reach your goals. Good luck.
No, I don't think school is pointless
LOL! To be that young and foolish again.
No. School isn't pointless on many levels. Those that believe it is, frankly, don't get it. Many struggle and start down a path that makes their life more difficult than it has to be.
School is about learning. Not about just one thing in particular. It's about learning to appreciate an education and hopefully a process that will continue the rest of one's life.
You'll find that, in many cases, those that embrace the experience and succeed within school are more likely to succeed in many other areas of their life.
Grade school, mostly yeah to be honest. The stuff they teach you is pretty surface level. For example, I completely substituted my math education by teaching myself and just testing out.
The way they teach you also encourages passing the test and then never worrying about the information again.
No, school provides information that you will use later in life. Yes, some of the things you're taught will never be used by you, but much of it will. Plus, it's a time to develop emotionally and learn social skills.
I think the most important thing about going to school is learning to socialize with all kinds of people, learning to solve your problems, learning to be responsible, growing. The rest could be learnt at home, but I'd prefer my kid to go to school even if they teach that bs gender and race stuff, me knowing I would have to undo some brainwashing when they come back home, but it's worth it.
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