All science and engineering degrees require hands on training in laboratories as part of the standard curriculum and often capstone projects and research opportunities were you actually do things… Most new innovations come from academic settings. Someone comes up with a good idea after conducting research. Then some sort of incubator connected with academia finances the start up which creates a new company with financial backing to get going and creates jobs in the community and a growing business that contributes to GDP. So he’s wrong on that part. Next a bachelor’s degree is 120 credit hours. Over 4 years that is 30 credit hours per year. There are 3 semesters per year if you include summer. That mean you need you need 10 credit hours per semester. Each credit hour is equivalent to 1 hour in a classroom. There are 5 days in a week. So what he is saying is that if he spend 2 hours a day on anything for 4 years it would be a waste of the entire 4 years. Most humans sleep 8 hours a day. That leaves 16 hours to do something productive. Most people work roughly 8 hours a day during the week. Dedicating 2 hours a day towards learning a new subject matter and potentially getting hands on training during that time, research experience, getting to use tools that the average person can not afford to own, and networking with people within various industries that can help you get a leg up on life doesn't seem like a waste of time to me. You should be able to grind a job and learn at the same time.
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Did you even watch the video? He said that some professions do require it.
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@LiamJHayden Yeah he mentioned doctors...
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He also said, "Some professions..." but that does not fit your narrative.
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@LiamJHayden Yeah that's what I'm doing here, crafting a psyop narrative... It couldn't just be an honest opinion.
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If you want to go to college, then go to college. If you don't want to go to college then don't go to college. I don't care personally. It's your life to lead. That said, I don't think it is a waste of time. Everyone can read books on their own time. If you know how to search better than the average person you can find most textbooks for free in digital format, but the average person isn't going to drop $80K on an NMR spectrometer or $10 million on an Illumina HiSeq X Ten System just because they read an ebook online... Colleges tend to have some pretty cool toys that not everyone gets to play with and they have people that know how to use them who train you on them...
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+1 yEducation is important. Even if you graduate from college and don't find a job right away, at least you still have that degree to prove you worked for something.
This guy talking about reading being a waste of time. Reading helps you learn. It's good for your brain, builds your vocabulary, and increases your intelligence. I'm a writer and I love to read, and I would never say reading is worthless.
People can take your possessions, you can lose everything you love, and your heart can get broken, but no one can ever take what you learned away. That is yours. It belongs to you!
It sounds like this guy has some type of bitterness with the world and has a problem learning. We're only as smarts as we make ourselves!
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I normally don’t like Andrew Tates advice- but he’s 100% correct here. The stuff they teach in college does not even correlate to what is seen in todays work forces. It’s a professor recycling teachings that they have taught since 2010 and making 75k based on our dated teachings. The teachings are super outdated and in the real work forces - they use programs that are easier to maneuver around with and find answers more quicker than college teaching tools. I think colleges do need to reprogram their teachings because ultimately someone can be put in those work forces a lot quicker than current college programs suggest. It’s all about the money though. Colleges would lose money if they were actually truthful to what needs to be taught for these fields
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Asker+1 yI mean Tate says a lot of stuff that makes sense except for his opinions about women. He just says stuff that makes sense. I don't think he is really crazy it's just front for his fan base.
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@asker I definitely agree with that. I actually called out my college program professor for this BS. If colleges were ran like a trade, people would be more successful and most likely stick to their fields. People don’t even use their degrees because they are exhausted from the pointless work they did for 5-8 years
+1 yCollege is not necessarily a waste of time, it depends on what you want from it and what kind of experience you are looking for. For some people, going to college can be an opportunity to gain valuable knowledge and skills that will help them in their future career. It can also be a great way to make new friends and meet people who have similar interests and passions. However, for others, college might not be the best option for their education and career goals. Ultimately, it's up to you to decide what is right for you and your individual needs.
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+1 yMajority of the time it feels like it.
For example, my sister went to college for a few years to become a nurse. Because she failed the nurse tests twice, she would have to retake classes all over again. She didn't want to start from scratch again, so she still works at the same Dollar General that she's been working at for 11 years now.
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Asker+1 yYeah nursing is very hard. In my state you need 3.5 GPA to get into a good program. It's very competitive.
In my opinion, the vast majority of degree programs are essentially scams with redundant, negligibly different coursework that proves little more than the fact you could commit time and money to earning a piece of paper. Almost every profession on the planet would be better off learned through an internship or apprenticeship directly from people actively doing those jobs rather than from frauds with little to no real world experience. This is one of many reasons why I think trade schools are generally a much better and criminally underrated option that I wish had even been talked about when I was in high school. The chances of this meaningfully changing however are virtually zero, plus there are still plenty of programs that can actually justify the work involved, with obvious ones including engineering, medical, and law. Even then, many could trim the fluff and shorten the length of the programs by at least a semester.
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+1 yI think it depends on what you are planning to do with your life. For many careers college is very useful - both for the career and for the knowledge you gain.
I picked a career where college (and grad school) is pretty essential, and its worked out very well for me.
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Yeah but it’s nevermind what you want to do for a career - it’s the layout of college as a whole. College teachings are very outdated and they are purposely outdated because colleges wouldn’t make as much money if they were to upgrade how colleges operate and what it takes to actually be in those fields. I can’t even count how many times my professors have said “don’t worry - this isn’t totally important in our field because we usually do this kind of math work on our phones or we have systems to figure this out in an easier manner”
If you want to work for someone else then no. College is only for your resume. If you want to work for yourself then you will need to forget everything you learned in college. I've been a course contributor for university marketing courses and honestly you will learn more on YouTube than in college. I hear the line "This is what we were taught" often and have to re-teach the nonsense that's being taught to my employees in school.
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+1 yI don't think the advice on education from a rapist should be taken seriously
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+1 yIt depends on the person and what they want to do in life.
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+1 yTop G is right, aside from a select few STEM and finance majors college is nothing but a huge scam.
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+1 yAs he said, some professions do require it. The point is that lots of people waste their time and money getting useless degrees.
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+1 yWell yes. Because their are so much opportunities. Don't really need college just for the typical high paying yahoo jobs.
00 ReplyI did my dream job for my dream company without a GED so yeah it’s a waste of time.
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yNope
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