Why are so many people against abolishing government schools, in place of private schools?

[Revvl]

Parents would receive a school voucher for each of their kids. They could spend that voucher at a school of their choice. You could still have government schools for those who like government education. As a parent, you could interview various schools, and see which school is best for you and your children. If you want your children to learn math, science, reading, writing and chemistry, then pick a school that focuses on that.

If you want a school that teaches CRT, transgender studies, toxic masculinity, then opt for the government schools. But why isn't there a choice?

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I made a mistake when I said "abolishing" government schools. Government schools would just compete with private schools for the school vouchers.

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I made a mistake when I said "abolishing" government schools. Government schools would be allowed to compete with private schools for the school vouchers.

[Oedipus]

Let the public schools compete with charter and private schools in a true free market and watch the public schools fail. Cut funding for public schools that are incapable of competing and let the best win out.

[Revvl]

19 years old and you're the smartest person on this thread.

[Exterminatore]

They like their kids learning about big transvestite penis in 2nd grade.

[Revvl]

That's the problem.

[Exterminatore]

Certainly. That’s what this is all about. Exposing children to things they ought not to be exposed to.

“Making tomorrow’s perverts today” ought to be their motto. They’re grooming these kids to both accept the idea of pedophelia and trying to put ideas in their heads to be gay and trannies as well.

It’s brain washing pure and simple.

[Sargentcaptain]

The government has indoctrinated people into thinking they'd just die without government 'help'. And people are delusional enough to think that the government has no agenda while the private schools are some sort of propaganda machine that will turn people into crazed nutcases.

[Revvl]

If only they could understand that it's quite the opposite.

[Phoenix98]

There are a lot of reasons to avoid public schools.

1# To much government oversight

2# low quality teachers not to mention bias teachers pushing their own personal agenda and grooming your kids.

3# the curriculum is poor and bloated with useless nonsense. School doesn’t prepare you for the world like it used to.

[Revvl]

Excellent reply.

[GreenLanternI0I]

Because most parents are perfectly fine letting their kids go to a governmental schools where they are being deliberately dumbed down, so government can keep control of their slave population. Private schools on the other hand are able to give kids stronger education and therefore bigger brain, that is a BIG no no for the government and corrupt to the very core corporations who might lose control of their slave force. It always comes down to power, greed and selfishness.

[Revvl]

And that's a said thing.

[exitseven]

The teachers union donates millions to the democrats so they are afforded a virtual monopoly. Not many people can afford to sent their kids to private schools especially if you had 2 or three kids. If parents had a choice public schools would have no choice but to improve.

[Revvl]

Brilliant answer. Look at all the hateful replies I got. lol If you had three kids, I would hand you a school voucher worth $54,000. It would be up to you to interview schools and ask them why they're worthy of getting your money.
If YOU decided to teach, and offered an American flag and a Christmas tree, you'd most likely have to hire help and find a bigger place to teach. Parents would be begging you to take their kids into your private school.

[Sixgunsound]

Because the teachers union would go out of business by the end of the week as the mass exodus from government failure holes left them less able to justify (or fund) their positions. Once a union gets powerful enough to install a president single handedly, then meddle in subsequent elections ever since, that organization will not cooperate with it's own destruction and will get as nasty and violent as it feels it needs to for its own preservation. Its kind of like a mini government in that regard.

[Revvl]

Let the teachers union get new jobs. San Fran pays people six figures to go around and spray poop off the sidewalks.

[Chazmatazz269]

Ell oh ell!
Track record for privatization of public service in the US…
Incarceration and rehabilitation: failure
Public utilities: failure
Federal reserve: failure


Notice a pattern?
Everything we let corporations take over results in higher cost to consumers and lower quality of products and services. Fat cats get fatter while the working class and impoverished get poorer, with nothing to show for their losses. What on earth leads you to believe privatizing education would be any different?
It’s been said that repeating the same behavior while expecting different results is the working definition of insanity.

[Revvl]

Corporations? Who suggested that? You? I'm talking about YOU teaching a few kids in your home. I will pay you $18,000 per kid. Please do a good job and don't let me down.

[Kaneki05]

Because that would just make them all shit. Because then funding would drop significantly to the point they would have to become governmental schools lol.
I am sure the only people who would want this are people who have lack of fundamental understanding of capitalism.

You want communism fast please do this. Which I am all for actually so yeah why not lets make all government schools turns out i am not against this issue.

Also another key note, is if people could just simply choose which they what this would either lead to people staying in echo chambers which is not a good thing at all (which sadly some rich people who can afford certain privates schools intend that) or it would make them all equally expressing every view.

[Nomina]

It is a strange thing, seeing it from the outside. Here, school choice is just how it works. The fact that you would be forced to send your kid to a specific school makes no sense, lol. Da fuck is this?

[Revvl]

Thanks for the reply.

[Adaeva]

How could it be otherwise since people always vote for a free lunch. The fact they must pay for does not enter their dimwitted minds. And, it is only getting worse because average IQ's are falling and will continue to fall until the more intelligent are unable to support the growing percentage of less intelligent resulting is a big drop in the population primarily from the less fit. That is, less intelligent.

[Revvl]

Couldn't the kids also get a free lunch at a private school?

[Sixgunsound]

I agree with your sentiment but disagree with you onone thing. The less intelligent tend to have more children who get more violent more quickly when they don't get their way. Look at how that plays out in gang areas or in countries run by warlords. Have you ever heard of the movie idiocracy? As much as I would love to fantasize that the educated would end up inheriting the earth, human progress is always slowed by the ham fisted dimwitted idiots who believe might makes right and burn looters murder their way through their political enemies. This phenomenon is not constrained by geography or time.

[Sixgunsound]

Look at the countries where honor killings and acid throwing and female oppression are culturally legitimized answers to social questions, and correlate that with the level of domestically developed technological progress. How many children do those countries tend to have? In the end the biggest army can defeat the smarter army, ask the Germans how the Eastern front worked out in world War II.

[Revvl]

@Sixgunsound

I bet you would make a great teacher. If you have room for four students, I will pay you $72,000 per year to teach them.

[Adaeva]

@Sixgunsound I wouldn't be allowed to because the minimum age for entering employment shall be no less than the age at which compulsory education ends, and in any case shall be no lower than fifteen. There is an exception for acting such as motion pictures and I believe modeling but the hours are limited.

At some point, the dimwitted become so numerous and unproductive, their will not be enough to feed everyone. When that happens only the very bright will have birth rates greater than death rates. Greater numbers can win a war provided the average IQ difference is not greater than 2 to 5 points which certainly is the case between Russians and Germans. In any event, I doubt there would be a war between the bright and dimwitted as typically the dimwitted are lead by the bright.

[Adaeva]

* there will not...

[BeMuse]

Why would you need a school voucher if you abolish government schools? Technically you would just cut property taxes in half being that is where that funding originally comes from. Why would you put that money into a corrupt bureaucracy in the first place to be stolen. No, just remove the property. This would reduce the cost of living for property owners and reduce the cost of rent for renters.

[BeMuse]

* property tax

[BeMuse]

The average homeowner is paying roughly $2,000 in property tax a year. The school system gets roughly $1,200 per student per year to teach them. About half of property tax goes to schools. People who don't have kids are unevenly taxed right now to make up the difference.

[Revvl]

The school system is getting $18,000 per student, per year. Go back to sleep.

[BeMuse]

"average homeowner" " average homeowner" "average homeowner"

[BeMuse]

you go back to sleep

[BeMuse]

median home sales price is $428,700 which has a millage rate of roughly half of one percent.

[BeMuse]

"People who don't have kids are unevenly taxed right now to make up the difference"

[BeMuse]

Not all states have income tax to draw from...

[BeMuse]

If you are still having trouble comprehending it, think of it this way. The average American lives 79.1 years. They reach adulthood at 18 which generates (79.1-18)*1200 = $73,320 on average per household over an adult life. Kids are only in the school system for 13 years. Not everyone has kids, but everyone is taxed for life regardless if they use the service or not. In wealthier communities the millage rate is higher as are the property values, thus why they have better schools and. In poor communities the property taxes are lower, thus why they have lower performing schools with funding issues. Why not just make parents take responsibility for their own children rather than spreading the burden across the entire population. You take a school loan and pay it off like a mortgage if you have kids, or you take the time to tech them yourselves. People who don't have kids shouldn't be paying taxes their entire life for a service they don't use.

[BeMuse]

If people without kids didn't have to pay that extra tax, it could accumulate in an account with compounding interest every year or be invested in something more useful. Even at a messily 2% that could leave them well over $100,000 in extra savings to get them through the hardship of their retirement. Instead they are taxed so other people can have kids that take care of them in retirement.

[BeMuse]

What you are advocating for is no different than ObamaCare. You want people to be forced to pay private companies for services they do not use. You want to steal people's money. The Democrats want to force you to pay for universal healthcare/forced purchase of health insurance plans because it helps their cronies.. You want to force people to pay for universal education/forced purchase of private school tuition for other people's kids. Both are theft. Both are communist leaning. If you kill the public schools, stop the tax associated with them.

[BeMuse]

You know where else they want vouchers? They want them embedded into digital currency to tell you how many potatoes or bugs you get to eat, how much gasoline you can purchase a week, where you get to live, etc. It is all totalitarian. Just stop the tax and get people to pay for their own children's education.

[Revvl]

I fixed that in an update.

[DarkWinterNights]

Because the abysmal test scores, sky high drop out rates and our collapsing ranking among 1st world countries clearly show what we have now is the best system.


On a more serious note, I think most people don’t realize things are as bad as they are and are easily swayed by fear mongering of change.

[Revvl]

And what about you?

[TrueConfection]

I think that once taxpayer funds are used, the state will be able to set rules. Eventually, there be a "choice" for anyone.

I put 2 kids in private school. They have tons of need based scholarships for any parent that asks.

[Revvl]

So why aren't government funds going to a private option?

[TrueConfection]

Government funds are taxpayer funds. Ok, I reread my opinion. There is a typo. I meant that if public funds are used to pay private school tuition, eventually there *won't be a choice. The state governments will regulate private schools the same way they regulate public schools.

[Revvl]

If the rules were changed and private schools could teach what they want, would you change your mind?

[TrueConfection]

I would change my mind if the government was stopped from regulating private schools that use taxpayer money.

[Revvl]

I want you to have five kids that you teach in your home. I will pay you $90,000.00 per year to teach them. There's no reason that this can't work.

[TrueConfection]

That's how it used to work.

[TrueConfection]

During the school closures, parents were sharing the homeschooling. One was teaching math, one English... You get the picture.

Some states want to regulate homeschooling to the point of making laws that the parent has to have state certified teaching credentials to be allowed to homeschool their own child.

[Revvl]

They can't even control the open border, so I don't see how they can control home schooling.

[TrueConfection]

They ignore real issues like the invasion and go after conservative moms that are trying to give their children a better education.

[Revvl]

That's exactly why I want the teacher's union to go the way of the phone booth.

[TrueConfection]

Yes! They are behind a lot of this. Maybe the libtards can go with them.

[Revvl]

Apparently, parents like the pedophile union calling the shots.

[TroyDT2]

Because public schools are huge wealth transfer program. Think not?

In my state, California, it is over $20,000 per student per year. So a couple with three kids is getting a more than $60K per year education subsidy, or more than a single person who makes $500,000 pays in state taxes in a year. With their write offs and dependents, that couple would have to make over $800K just to pay enough in taxes to cover their children's education expense.

[Revvl]

So are you for or against public money going for private education?

[joeldalton]

Because they like the control that government schools have over children.

[Revvl]

My brother asked me why America has become insane. I told him that the only explanation is that Xi is our president. I asked my brother why the government schools are so insane, he said that it's because pedophiles have taken over government education.

[worldscolide]

School choice is one of the main things conservatives have been pushing for. But leftists want to control what our kids learn. I plan to home school.

[Revvl]

It's criminal for you to have to home school and forego the money you've paid into the government.
If the Republican house can only do ONE thing, I hope they can get rid of the teacher's union and the pedophiles that run it.

[Guy13]

Parents do not want to be parents. School as once babysitters but now they act as Parents.

[Revvl]

So what would be the difference if private schools were the babysitters?

[Guy13]

Private nor Home school does not function like public school. You feed, drive, and coordinate etc.

[Revvl]

Beyond brilliant.

[Guy13]

Thank you no but the Bond and assumed importance and ingrained "must' to be successful at University was Family driven. The best places for this kind of life are the old Bible beating Baptist Churches with Homeschooling. They are all over Barstow California to Wilmington NC

[AndrésC64]

Because it's forcing people to subsidize religious schools.

[Revvl]

Lord have mercy!