It seems that’s it’s so hard to impress film critics nowadays. Movies that are normally liked by moviegoers are given bad “approval ratings” by the film critics.Rambo last Blood was given a low approval rating by movie critics but was generally liked by moviegoers.I find that movies with low approval ratings from critics are usually very good movies. It seems that politics play a major role in how unreliable movie critics have become in recent years. If a movie caters towards a conservative audiences the film receives low approval ratings from movie critics. But if it’s a movie that caters towards a liberal audience it tends to get a high approval rating by movie critics.A film hated by most movie goers yet given high approval ratings by film critics.Even movies that don’t have any political agendas like Bright and Gemini man tend to get low approval ratings by film critics despite being generally liked by movie goers.Original concept, liked by movie goers, despised by film criticsAnother greatly underrated movie that was liked by moviegoers yet absolutely despised by film critics
Yes, film critics have completely lost their credibility
No but I think film critics have excessively high standards
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Have film critics lost their credibility in recent years?
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C: Film critics are, for the most part, fine. Movies have become mindless formulaic entertainment made for young mindless people who don't know better movies because they've never seen good movies in movie theaters.
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Yes but then it's not really that hard to see why. Most people watch a film for escapism, they want to be entertained not lectured to, there are lectures you can attend for that for free. Most people don't want to do that when they have forked out as much as 50$ for their seat a few snacks etc.
Film critics though are paid to watch movies, they go to four maybe five a week and that gets boring so when a film comes along that pretends to try to say something about society or culture they swoop onto it as the next great art work because it's a novelty to them, they will have seen the script and screenplay thousands of times before with different actors and film titles etc. But what they won't have seen is the underlying message the film is trying to portray.
Take your example, the new Ghostbusters film, flopped at the box office because it was a lecture, the script was bad the acting was terrible but critics loved it because it was a novelty a statement about female whatever, most people who went to see it went because it was a reboot of a classic and found they had two hours of female power rammed down their throats. Critics loved it because of its message which they hadn't seen done like that before.
I don't think film critics have lost their credibility, they have simply become less important with the widespread use of the internet in HICs (high income countries) for the majority of the population. I listened to a good Podcast that analysed how "we" (Central Europeans who studied at university, read the newspaper daily and are between 25 and 50 (yeah, small percentage of the global population)) don't really go to ballets and the theater anymore, but read critics' reviews of plays.
Here's an example: I attend a very traditional school where I have the privilege to take Latin. So yeah, I care about whether the production of "Orpheus et Eurydice" in a theater nearby included the end of Ovid's tale or not - quite frankly, most people attending the theater don't even know how the story ends. I read critics' reviews and takes, because they're experts. However, I still have my own opinion that isn't dependant on what a critic says.
When you're someone who cares deeply and passionately about the arts and literature like me, you enjoy it so much when you hear someone talk about how Dürrenmatt's "Die Physiker" lacked the intense level of social criticism in a theater production. You adore people who publicly criticise Peter Handke for his statements about Serbia and Bosnia, yet recognise his linguistic talent.
I read critics, but quite frankly, when it comes to movies, most of the ones critics praise SUCK and those that don't are either French or German so they don't get international attention usually.
Here are some TV shows I liked this year, both Amazon Originals: 1. Deutschland 83 and 86: show about an involuntary spy which captures the German spirit of the time well in my opinion.
Also this show, not originally German: 3. Forever: an immortal medical examiner and his "life". Similar to Dr house but still really good in my opinion.
I grew up watching only English movies, which is why I appreciate German shows more now. It's my mother tongue after all. 4: Der Staat gegen Fritz Bauer (the people against Fritz Bauer): the chase for Eichmann, one of the most infamous Nazi criminals. Great story about never giving up, even when everyone - including your employer and employees - are doing everything they can to stop you from achieving justice. Bauer is portrayed as one of the most German people you can imagine, it's great though.
@EnglundUberAlles I really don’t find either very useful. I look at the audience review comments because sometimes things the audience dislikes I like The rating itself isn’t very useful
It's not really any different than it always has been.
Critics are generally fairly educated cinephiles that pay closer attention to what makes a film 'good' (Ie. directing/writing/acting/cinematography, etc.) A 'good' film meaning something that has aspirations for awards.
Average moviegoers care about what they like. What they don't tend to understand is that what they like and what is considered 'good' (award winning potential) are rarely the same thing. You have to truly care about cinema itself for those things to align often.
I'm a big fan of 80's horror/fantasy/sci fi but yet I fully understand why it didn't win awards. I get way more excited for MCU movies than the vast majority of stuff coming out in theaters, but I know damn well that they will rarely get nominated for much.
Plenty of movies are fun and entertaining and good (to me) and even make profit, but they simply aren't going to be the upper echelon of the cinematic craft.
The conservative/liberal argument... I mean the vast majority of movies that come out are created by mostly liberal people. Liberal types get into film making and the acting arts. I don't think there is any real agenda there. Joker for example while having a few liberal ideas such as questioning mental health and class warfare still has enough about it that would piss off feminist types and yet it's getting all sorts of awards recognition because virtually everything about it is very well made.
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Professional film critics are a joke. They're either pushing a political agenda, paid to smear a movie in favor of another movie, or they're looking for content bullet points that the overwhelming majority of moviegoers don't care about.
I think the last time I actually agreed with critics (and noticed) was Mad Max: Fury Road, which at the time they gave an extremely rare high 90s score to, and audiences also loved it.
Nah, they've always been that way. It seems almost the point to be critical and find those holes when doing that job. My main issue these days is people intentionally being edgy and creating faults that were never there... the hating on The Simpsons because Apu is a stereotype kind of thing? It's like ok but the whole thing is stereotypes, Homer is just a fat ignorant American guy, Groundskeeper Willie could be very offensive out of any kind of context, nearly all the characters are bogged down in that and out of all of them Apu is one of the better characters who is painted as the good guy each time. It's that kind of thing that bugs me.
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I'm not sure because I don't pay attention to them. I have looked at onlien reviews like rotten tomatoes which seems on track.
That Rambo movie... that was darn violent! But... Stallone is so good at expressing the emotions we have about the subject. gotta have bad guys and trafficers and gangs are the new "russians".
I'm so looking forward to Rambo Ressurection... where he's crucified and rises up and totally kicks ass in the cynical church hiding their pedophile priests. Or Rambo vs aliens... whatever...
its actually neither films have been going down hill for a long time. you can thank downloaders and the only way films can recoup their losses is: netflix exclusives or straight to cable (pay to stream) etc. the main problems is QUALITY orginal scripts. not a remake of somebody elses ideas you can't call it a reimgaining, reboot or alternate storyline. its a cop out.
thats why NOBODY has bettered the airplane 1 & 2 movies in 30-40 years!
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Film critics have developed the same affliction as the mass media they are a small part of. They color their reviews to fit cultural trends as opposed to content and production values. Rambo was good enough as a final chapter and Gemini Man was very good. "Junior" was completely convincing. . My criticism of both is that plot development had to be fast forwarded to keep a 2-hour window. The only thing I still trust with professional reviewers is if they call a movie a real stinker, it probably is.
Yep, i feel that too. Was just talking about this movie lol. The thing is years ago we didn't really care about special affects or how ''realistic'' it looked. We didn't have a trained eye we didn't know any better. But now looking at the new/upcoming movies we easily criticize it on its unrealistic look and actions. O hate it but I'm one critic myself, why can't i just disable my mind and just enjoy a movie for what it is? Like i can't just sit and watch, i see all kinds of flaws and irrational actions done by the characters that it just pisses me off... Well i guess times have changed.
by the way I read your question too fast and what i meant was I agree that (movies) have lost their credibility not the critics. Critics always got a good point.
Listen everybody's a film crituc you me the person sitting next to you. Remember one thing opinions are like assholes everybody's got one. Also just because the so called film critics don't like a movie is completely pointless. What the directors and producers and executive producers and actors and screenwriters care about is how much money the film will bring in and if the studio will give them the green light to produce another one or a sequel. And in turn will result in all those people getting jobs again afterwards. So film critics are completely useless and completely pointless this day and age much like the paparazzi useless and pointless
And generally speaking film critics only serve two purposes much like the paparazzi. To get the film as much exposure as possible and by them hating it, it will make moviegoers want to see it more which will generate more revenue for the movie.
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No option available for me. I think the quality of films has gone into the toilet. It really doesn't matter what "sells" to me. The Fast and the Furious series, Marvel, and stuff like that are blockbusters, but they all basically suck as stories. It's just action, violence and fantasy. To be frank, I don't see the point in even critiquing movies like those. I think Hollywood has run out of ideas, so they are re-treading older award winning or cult movies, and running through the comic book/video game library. Movies are SO bad that the bar has been lowered to the gutter, and I praise critics for not going down there with the movies.
They never had any credibilty to begin with... Those who can, do... Those who cannot do, teach... Those who cannot do either, and know little to nothing about the subject, become critics. So I ask you, if you had to endure some sniveling little piss ant with a chip on the shoulder the size of Alaska, and an ego the size of Russia, who knows little to nothing about your profession, try to tell you and anyone who'll listen to their nonsense how you should do your job... Would you consider the opinions of such a person credible? I sure wouldn't. Moral of the story: "DON'T FEED THE TROLLS"!
I think you're right. Movie critics seem increasingly disconnected from reality. I look at user reviews to choose my movies; I don't trust the critics to be objective. Too often I have watched a pretty good movie that has a bad rating by critics but good user rating.
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Hollywood is in decline in general. They're material is shot through with homosexual perversion, they no longer operate on merit so the acting and writing stink too. There are no more heroes in Hollywood movies or TV only villains and you need both to make the story worth watching.
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Yes. There is a big discrepancy between what the market wants and what values critics have. From identity-politics to nepotism among those "journalists" to journalists in general being a very specific demographic and thus not representative. Also most of these journalists just think they are better than their target audience rather than looking at it through the lense of said audience.
I don't think it's a recent thing. We've always had those film critics that felt Godfather I and II were crap. Or those few negative reviews of the Wizard of OZ. I really don't feel their opinion matters anymore. I personally rely on word of mouth or "Audience scores".
Look at how they double-spoke on Joker. First it was a patriarchal incel movie for white cis males. Then the movie does great and they try to make it a leftist movie that railed against capitalism.
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'Gemini Man' was pretty good. 'Bright' was plain awful. 'Rambo: Last Blood' was also pretty good. The 3rd best one since 'Rambo: First Blood' for sure.
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Honestly, I find critics in general, whether it's for movies, art, food and so on, to be irrelevant. It's a matter of individual taste at the end of the day, isn't it?
You're absolutely right that politics appears to play a role. Rambo: Last Blood was accused of 'racism' for having some sort of 'pro Trump wall' vibe because Rambo is slashing heads of cartels in Mexico.
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Not even close. Its always been that way. Its like comparing Bieber to Mozart. To put it another way. Critics largely base ratings on acting skills and screenplay where as your blockbuster hits rely on action, cgi, and star power to draw in an audience. Its not the same thing.
Why would film critics and the average consumer have to agree with each other? Most of the population loves shitty art. Just look at mainstream music - it's mostly utter trash, yet it sells *by far* the most. So?
Yes, but so have the movies. When all movies are bad the critics will like the movies that aren't quite as bad as the others, hence the very generous reviews for lame ass movies like Black Panther and that Sea Creature Thing. I don't remember the title but you know the one I mean.
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They view them differently to most cinema goers. They're looking objectively for things like artistic merit, plot quality etc. Cinema goers are just as likely to base their opinion on how good the accompanying pop corn was. I read an article on film critics where one said he spends to much time analysing the film to actually relax and enjoy it, perhaps that's the real reason opinion differs. Or you could say it's like how MacDonald burgers get slated by critics yet they still sell billions.
Film critics are not meant to be considered en bloc. That's like trying to categorise all music in the same way. The idea is that you find one or more that have similar tastes and values as you and you follow their opinions.
What do you think directors / movie producers do? They analyze movies, critics, other people's credible opinions before making a movie of their own. That's how you get better at making movies.
@BagoH No it isn't. Nobody reads critics. If someone wants an opinion on a film, they ask somebody they know and whose opinion they respect, not some blubberous fuckwit with a novelty mustache.
@BagoH Everybody's a critic by some definition or another, but I'm talking about people who put "film critic" on their tax returns. The ones who take themselves seriously.
Critics are pompous cunts who think their opinion matters. That said, I do watch some critics who like align to mine, which means that if they like it, I will like it. I mean it's just a movie, not life choices.
Film critics haven’t had much credibility for many years. They consistently demonstrate through their reviews how out of touch they are with moviegoing audiences.
Where's the simple, and correct, option of "no." Not, "No but I think film critics have excessively high standards" ... they don't have any higher standards now than they've ever had. No vote.
I liked Bright great premise it need to be a t. v. sereus first then a movie. we needed to learn more about the world. BUT BRIGHT is a rip off of training day and Fifth element
Who gives a damn about what some whiny prick in a manbun with glasses sipping his 20$ latte thinks about a movie? These dipshits have zero knowledge on literature, character development, story-telling, etc.
Rambo was awesome brutality. It was pretty much what you expect from Rambo. And he is tight about that. It got like 6/10 from critics but 90% of people who saw it liked it.
@OfDeath It has the same spirit as the first film and the 4h film. I despise the Myanmar government and it was refreshing, if only a fantasy to see someone stand up to them.
It's not recent years, it's been since producers have been able to lobby for their particular film that we get academy winners that haven't even made their production cost back.
I trust Jeremy Jahns and Chris Stuckmann's (Youtuber's) reviews. That's all I trust really. I don't think anyone really cares what critics say. I don't think they ever did to be honest. I didn't
What is the agenda then? When I watched it I thought there would be an agenda which made me think the movie would be stupid. But I didn’t see the agenda. If there is one it’s well hidden.
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