Yes very much, it wouldn't have ticked me if they did this in 2000's or something but now it's obvious why they're thinking of doing this. And if people start to agree with this bs agenda next James Bond will be gay and the next a woman.
That said, according to me James Bond can be any race.
Honestly? As a huge bond franchise fan i think the franchise is dead in these woke times. It won’t make any difference in what they do going forward, they’ll only want him to be a Beta. If i was an actor i would turn down the role vs being called the guy who killed the franchise.
Bond has been a borderline great franchise but it's served it's purpose. They will continue to squeeze it until all the juice is gone but I'm not invested in it any more. I feel like artisitcally Skyfall should have been the last one.
I think once you establish the official look or even personality of a beloved character, any changes to those things will only alienate fans of the original actor. It's nothing to do with race either I have heard a lot of criticism that Craig doesn't fit the role all that well.
No, not really. As long as they do the role justice. Or maybe he could be another agent than 007. I do agree though that the agency and the agents should remain British - doesn't mean he has to be white though.
I wouldn't care as long as he has a Briton the accident and is badass and could actually be as James Bond that's what it's all about it's not about race I think it'd be great but he'd have to be badass
@Daniela1982 because it's a guy's role not a girl's role, they are too weak anyway wouldn't be able to put up a fight, unless that girl has a dick even if it's 2 inches. It's like making black widow character to a man.
@Daniela1982 Wouldn’t you prefer that writers create strong independent female characters with their own stories, instead of just co-opting a male role? James Bond is a fantastic literary character, mut he’s male! There are plenty of amazing female characters in literature… the problem is that fearful Hollywood types don’t want to take a risk and green light an action movie with a strong female lead! Just doing a female reboot of 007 seems sad, pathetic, and unimaginative!
@CrazyGirl2 I hate this bs when girls go saying that women aren't weaker than men, I can't go around pretending that this is true.
Literally this thing happened to me which made me believe, I was in 4th grade and a 7th grade (girl) bullied me and wanted to fight me and apparently she also was taking those boxing lessons in school, I literally grabbed her by the arm and over my shoulders and threw her far away in the ground breaking her 2 front tooth, now granted I was a little chubby but this girl not only had more knowledgeable than me but also know how to fight and was around 5 inches taller as well. And this is the reason I never believed in "women aren't weaker than men" bs.
@smallandtiny Well, apparently you are sadly so shallow that you believe strength is s only measured my the size and density of a person’s muscles, and sot the strength of out character, morals, and integrity! Any moron can pump iron and become physically stronger.
@CrazyGirl2 that's exactly my point, that moron pumped iron and thought to herself she can bully anyone. Also we all were discussing of being physically stronger not by character lol clearly you then know that men are usually stronger
@smallandtiny No, we were discussing whether the character of James Bond should be played by a woman. I still believe that Hollywood should write strong (meaning interesting) characters for female actors, not just make all female reboots of male driven franchises
@smallandtiny There’s nothing to disagree about. I know what I meant when I wrote that Hollywood needs to write more original scripts for strong independent female characters. You thought that to mean physically strong… you were incorrect, mainly because you can’t read my mind, you can’t tell me that’s NOT what I meant!
@CrazyGirl2 I said agree to disagree because I disagreed with the idea of a female Bond like character, everything I wrote above was to explain this and if it still doesn't make sense to you then that's on you. How can you go saying we need "strong independent female character" and not mean it her being physically strong as well, so according to you it means her brain is strong or what? I disagreed because it's stupid to see a 5'4 girl take down a 6' guy using only her bare fists, and that's why I mentioned you the story from NY childhood of how a bully much larger than me who also knew how to box and was probably 4-5 years older than me got taken down by me, and it's pretty weird to Hollywood doesn't write scripts like these, all they do write roles is girl being "strong and independent" and kicking assets of 6' guys, which works in superhero movies but when you show a real human like James Bond, it's just not possible.
Anyway, that's why I wanted to end the conversation with agree to disagree because if you really think that is possible then we have nothing to talk about sorry and have a good day.
@smallandtiny Of course I don’t agree that janes bond should or could be played by a woman! What part of me writing that Hollywood should write strong female characters of our own makes you think that I believe James Bond could be played by a fucking woman! Jesus Christ, you are SO used to arguing with people you don’t even realize when someone agrees with you! You were all set for a fight and the second you read something from a woman with enough intelligence to write something other that “NO JAMSE BOND IS A MAN” you immediately thought that I was on team “make Bond a girl. You are WRONG! You need to start either reading more books so you are capable of understanding subtle nuance, or you need to get off a forum that relies strictly on the written word! I happen to believe that Hollywood should write new original movies with strong kick-ass female leads rather that doing all female reboots of traditional male films! #FemaleGhostbustersSucked. #JamesBondIsAMan#LearnToRead !
@Daniela1982 How about we just leave male roles alone, and leave female roles alone? Although many have called Lara Croft the female Indiana Jones already anyway.
@CrazyGirl2 I disagree. I think a Palestinian James Bond would be the perfect character, as he would fight against the Zionist scum, that gang that even Churchill recognized worthy of Nazi Germany, which brings only misery, exploitation and murder whenever they go.
@smallandtiny I don’t believe a WORD of that! Obviously men are physically stronger that women… but you expect the ENTIRE GaG community to believe that a PREPUBESCENT 9y/o with absolutely no testosterone in his body, took and didn’t just push a 12/13yo girl down, but picked her up, and THREW HER THROUGH AIR… a NINE YEAR OLD? Bullshit! Unless you are the biggest dumbass in your school and failed 1st grade, then failed 2nd grade! Then failed 3rd grade! At least you would be about the same age then!
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Frankly since Bond is supposed to be English and he's been played by a Scot, an Irishman and George Lazenby it's time to pass the baton to Idris Elba. He's a brilliant actor and he's got the chops to play Bond.
As long as he's British, and respects what makes Bond "Bond", then his skin colour shouldn't matter that much. I'd be more concerned about the writers projecting their own "woke" politics onto the character, making his defining trait be the fact that he's black, rather than just writing a damn good Bond.
Who df cares. We have got to get over this obsession with Black people. White people are so obsessed with them thus the whole planet is obsessed with them. Just let them be and you be. Skin color is just color. Who df cares.
I'd be ok with it. Though since it is going to piss people off I'd say double down on it. Have a cross over movie where 007 teams up with Shaft and Black Dynamite.
All I really care about is how good the story and acting is. Although I stopped watching Bond. As it stopped feeling like Bond and more like a Bourne ripoff.
Idris Elba specifically would be awesome as James Bond. I think the continuity of the franchise already makes no sense, considering it's gone on for so long without addressing the actor changes, so I don't think having a black actor changes anything at all, as long as they're British!
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Personally I don't want a black James Bond. It don't even make sense. Like black spy would stand out in mission in Russia or other European countries. Even in East Asian countries black people are rarer than white people. And why not make a new franchise? Why use James bond
i honestly don’t care why people care so much about a fucking movie, let it be, doesn’t matter if he’s blue, red or pink or whatever if he acts good it’s enough
james bond is a specific character. they are always supposed to be teh same guy. even having a white guy with a different hair color completely removes all suspension of disbelief of the very concept of characters
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Yes very much, it wouldn't have ticked me if they did this in 2000's or something but now it's obvious why they're thinking of doing this. And if people start to agree with this bs agenda next James Bond will be gay and the next a woman.
That said, according to me James Bond can be any race.
"What makes you think it would be my first time?"
Honestly? As a huge bond franchise fan i think the franchise is dead in these woke times. It won’t make any difference in what they do going forward, they’ll only want him to be a Beta. If i was an actor i would turn down the role vs being called the guy who killed the franchise.
Bond has been a borderline great franchise but it's served it's purpose. They will continue to squeeze it until all the juice is gone but I'm not invested in it any more. I feel like artisitcally Skyfall should have been the last one.
In summary: IDC.
I think once you establish the official look or even personality of a beloved character, any changes to those things will only alienate fans of the original actor. It's nothing to do with race either I have heard a lot of criticism that Craig doesn't fit the role all that well.
No, not really. As long as they do the role justice. Or maybe he could be another agent than 007.
I do agree though that the agency and the agents should remain British - doesn't mean he has to be white though.
I wouldn't care as long as he has a Briton the accident and is badass and could actually be as James Bond that's what it's all about it's not about race I think it'd be great but he'd have to be badass
HELL NO! Not even a little bit! I think Idris Elba would make a PERFECT James Bond!
Bond always gets the girl, most girls I know would love to have sex with him
I'm surprised they don't have a girl as the hero and instead of James Bond they have Jaime Bond.
@Daniela1982 because it's a guy's role not a girl's role, they are too weak anyway wouldn't be able to put up a fight, unless that girl has a dick even if it's 2 inches. It's like making black widow character to a man.
@Daniela1982 Wouldn’t you prefer that writers create strong independent female characters with their own stories, instead of just co-opting a male role? James Bond is a fantastic literary character, mut he’s male! There are plenty of amazing female characters in literature… the problem is that fearful Hollywood types don’t want to take a risk and green light an action movie with a strong female lead! Just doing a female reboot of 007 seems sad, pathetic, and unimaginative!
@smallandtiny Women are TOO WEAK? So do you think you could deliver a baby?
@CrazyGirl2 women aren't weak? Do you you think you can get kicked in the balls and stand still?
@CrazyGirl2 I hate this bs when girls go saying that women aren't weaker than men, I can't go around pretending that this is true.
Literally this thing happened to me which made me believe, I was in 4th grade and a 7th grade (girl) bullied me and wanted to fight me and apparently she also was taking those boxing lessons in school, I literally grabbed her by the arm and over my shoulders and threw her far away in the ground breaking her 2 front tooth, now granted I was a little chubby but this girl not only had more knowledgeable than me but also know how to fight and was around 5 inches taller as well. And this is the reason I never believed in "women aren't weaker than men" bs.
@smallandtiny Well, apparently you are sadly so shallow that you believe strength is s only measured my the size and density of a person’s muscles, and sot the strength of out character, morals, and integrity! Any moron can pump iron and become physically stronger.
@CrazyGirl2 that's exactly my point, that moron pumped iron and thought to herself she can bully anyone. Also we all were discussing of being physically stronger not by character lol clearly you then know that men are usually stronger
@smallandtiny No, we were discussing whether the character of James Bond should be played by a woman. I still believe that Hollywood should write strong (meaning interesting) characters for female actors, not just make all female reboots of male driven franchises
@CrazyGirl2 lol ok let's agree to disagree then
@smallandtiny There’s nothing to disagree about. I know what I meant when I wrote that Hollywood needs to write more original scripts for strong independent female characters. You thought that to mean physically strong… you were incorrect, mainly because you can’t read my mind, you can’t tell me that’s NOT what I meant!
@CrazyGirl2 I said agree to disagree because I disagreed with the idea of a female Bond like character, everything I wrote above was to explain this and if it still doesn't make sense to you then that's on you.
How can you go saying we need "strong independent female character" and not mean it her being physically strong as well, so according to you it means her brain is strong or what? I disagreed because it's stupid to see a 5'4 girl take down a 6' guy using only her bare fists, and that's why I mentioned you the story from NY childhood of how a bully much larger than me who also knew how to box and was probably 4-5 years older than me got taken down by me, and it's pretty weird to Hollywood doesn't write scripts like these, all they do write roles is girl being "strong and independent" and kicking assets of 6' guys, which works in superhero movies but when you show a real human like James Bond, it's just not possible.
Anyway, that's why I wanted to end the conversation with agree to disagree because if you really think that is possible then we have nothing to talk about sorry and have a good day.
@smallandtiny Of course I don’t agree that janes bond should or could be played by a woman! What part of me writing that Hollywood should write strong female characters of our own makes you think that I believe James Bond could be played by a fucking woman! Jesus Christ, you are SO used to arguing with people you don’t even realize when someone agrees with you! You were all set for a fight and the second you read something from a woman with enough intelligence to write something other that “NO JAMSE BOND IS A MAN” you immediately thought that I was on team “make Bond a girl. You are WRONG! You need to start either reading more books so you are capable of understanding subtle nuance, or you need to get off a forum that relies strictly on the written word! I happen to believe that Hollywood should write new original movies with strong kick-ass female leads rather that doing all female reboots of traditional male films! #FemaleGhostbustersSucked. #JamesBondIsAMan #LearnToRead !
How about they make Tomb Raider a guy?
@Daniela1982 How about we just leave male roles alone, and leave female roles alone? Although many have called Lara Croft the female Indiana Jones already anyway.
@CrazyGirl2 I disagree. I think a Palestinian James Bond would be the perfect character, as he would fight against the Zionist scum, that gang that even Churchill recognized worthy of Nazi Germany, which brings only misery, exploitation and murder whenever they go.
Zionists are the perfect villains. And Palestinians are heroic by nature.
@smallandtiny I don’t believe a WORD of that! Obviously men are physically stronger that women… but you expect the ENTIRE GaG community to believe that a PREPUBESCENT 9y/o with absolutely no testosterone in his body, took and didn’t just push a 12/13yo girl down, but picked her up, and THREW HER THROUGH AIR… a NINE YEAR OLD? Bullshit! Unless you are the biggest dumbass in your school and failed 1st grade, then failed 2nd grade! Then failed 3rd grade! At least you would be about the same age then!
Man, this would be as offensive as making Morpheus a white dude in the next installation of The Matrix. Just no.
Frankly since Bond is supposed to be English and he's been played by a Scot, an Irishman and George Lazenby it's time to pass the baton to Idris Elba. He's a brilliant actor and he's got the chops to play Bond.
I stopped watching the Bond movies after Pierce Brosnan.
Pierce Brosnan was absolutely great. He played Bond extremely well.
yes, I don't know why I lost interest in the movies. I might watch the recant ones someday.
As long as he's British, and respects what makes Bond "Bond", then his skin colour shouldn't matter that much. I'd be more concerned about the writers projecting their own "woke" politics onto the character, making his defining trait be the fact that he's black, rather than just writing a damn good Bond.
, who just also HAPPENS to be played by a black British actor.
Who df cares. We have got to get over this obsession with Black people. White people are so obsessed with them thus the whole planet is obsessed with them. Just let them be and you be. Skin color is just color. Who df cares.
He’s racist that’s why he made it about race… otherwise he wouldn’t have brought up color in the first place.
He'll no what black person is asking for this
African Americans don't fuck with James bond WE NEVER DID. Go look at the static of how many black people went to go see those movies.
We don't need there hand me down trash characters.
Ills take another bad boys movie before that.
Give it the Asian/Indian community they under represented and they never are leading men.
Do you see how many fucks I'm holding? That's how many I give.
I don't care about the race of actors, as long as the show or movie is entertaining to me I really couldn't care less.
I'd be ok with it. Though since it is going to piss people off I'd say double down on it. Have a cross over movie where 007 teams up with Shaft and Black Dynamite.
All I really care about is how good the story and acting is. Although I stopped watching Bond. As it stopped feeling like Bond and more like a Bourne ripoff.
Idris Elba specifically would be awesome as James Bond. I think the continuity of the franchise already makes no sense, considering it's gone on for so long without addressing the actor changes, so I don't think having a black actor changes anything at all, as long as they're British!
Personally I don't want a black James Bond. It don't even make sense. Like black spy would stand out in mission in Russia or other European countries. Even in East Asian countries black people are rarer than white people. And why not make a new franchise? Why use James bond
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i honestly don’t care why people care so much about a fucking movie, let it be, doesn’t matter if he’s blue, red or pink or whatever if he acts good it’s enough
james bond is a specific character. they are always supposed to be teh same guy. even having a white guy with a different hair color completely removes all suspension of disbelief of the very concept of characters