If Tom Brady would have been QB of Colts and Manning QB of Patriots , would Manning be the Goat?

[888theGreat]

Less face it , if Brady would have been on any team other than cheating Patriots , he would have at best won two super bowls. Patriots spent most money and had the better players over the years. I can also tell you if they wouldn't not have spent the money , the brat Brady would have left them early on. So, why does he get so much credit? Look at Dan Marino , if he would have left Miami , he would have won at least one super bowl. He was loyal and it cost him rings. There are many QB's that could have won 6 Super Bowls with New England. So , quit worshiping Brady and just give credit to New England's defense , cheating , and deflated footballs. You also have to give credit to receivers , New England had probably the two best in football those years they won Super Bowls.

Rodgers could have won 6 with New England.

yes , even an average QB would have won a couple of super bowls with Patriots

NO, Brady is all that and if he would have played with Bengals , he would have won 7 Super Bowls

[BillyBalls]

So if Michael Jordan played for the a Washington Generals he would have won no NBA championships instead of six with Chicago?

Archie Manning was a great quarterback who played on a Shitty team in the 1970s. Does that make him less of a quarterback?

[888theGreat]

are you agreeing or not? I am just saying he was not the best

[888theGreat]

he did play for Washington and he didn't win any. He was also ranked 157 in shooting the ball, how could anyone be considered the best ever and have 156 players that shot better? Answer : Media coverage and hype. If you tell everyone 10 times a day, every day someone is God , shit don;t smell, and is the greatest , the masses will start to believe it. Not to mention , Americans are like sheep. This is why when anyone isn't a sheep that doesn't follow and that doesn't believe the BS , they are destroyed. Trump is a prime example. He didn't play ball with establishment and they tried to destroy him.

[Anonymous]

Manning had Reggie Wayne one of the best WR's of his time. Brady made some pretty bad WR's like Edleman look like they were Hall of Fame worthy until they played on another team.

[888theGreat]

sure

[Opinion Owner]

So is this really about talent or hatred for the guy? I never cared for him until last season.

[888theGreat]

I will prove without a doubt that Brees was a better QB . I will prove that if you average per year stats , Brees beats him because Brady played like two years longer and their stats are very close.

[Opinion Owner]

Brees was better but the question is about Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. Peyton Manning arguable could have had the most championships in my opinion if he was on the Steelers rather than Roethlisberger. If Brees would have stayed on the Chargers and Manning was on the Steelers, we most likely would be referring to Tom Brady as a 2- or 3-time super bowl champ. But we got what we got for a reason.

[888theGreat]

Ben is a tree and I always thought Manning was overrated too. I remember Brees playing for Purdue and I said this kid is going to be good.. I thought that about Brady with the saints. I knew he would not stay there long. If he did stay with the saints , maybe he wins 1 or 2 SB

[Opinion Owner]

Manning with that O-line though could have been dangerous. Brees would have stayed with the Chargers and had Ladainian Tomlinson as his back for an extended time that team would have won championships.

[saffoler]

Manning would have 14 Super Bowl Rings if he played for the Pats

[888theGreat]

maybe so, he was better than Brady and better person for sure. I was not a huge fan of Manning either. I liked Boomer , Montana, and Marino.

1) Best ever was Montana
2) was probably Unitas
3) was probably Favre

[888theGreat]

Remember , in those days it was ok to break a QB back tackling him. Now you have to ask permission to sack QB. Brady also kissed officials ass for calls. So, he got the interference calls and roughing calls. He had the top 2 receivers most of his career and a huge front line that protected him. Lets face it , he had time to read a book like Macbeth and then pass ball that he deflated.

[Drewtate]

Probably yeah. But Brady is definitely up there with the best ever quarterbacks and the Patriots couldn't have won without a great quarterback. Look at Kelly with the Buffalo Bill, he had the most dominant team in NFL history made it to 4 superbowls in a row and couldn't get them over the line, same with Dan Marino.

The fact that Brady was able to leave the Patriots when he was past his prime and win a Superbowl with the Buccaneers shows how good he was and the fact that he played in the era of such great quarterbacks and players like Rogers, the mannings, Wentz, hurts, Brett Favre. If the Patriots thought they could have gotten a better quarterback then would have.

He's a winner.

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