Peter's (The Bachelor's) mother is the perfect example of how abusive and controlling mothers can ruin a man's life.

[Robertcw]

The finale just ended tonight.

Long story short, the bachelor proposed to a woman he didn't love because he's a mamma's boy who lives at home with an abusive, narcissistic and controlling mother who told him too, and told him how she did not accept the woman he actually fell in love with.

The show picked up on this and intervened behind the family's back to bring back the woman peter loved without telling them. Peter's mother then spends the rest of the show, on live television, arguing against his son, the woman he loves and the entire crowd as she's booed as she shows her true narcissistic colors.

That's her 😒

How she is a narcissist:

1. She does not care who her son wants to marry.

2. She sees her son as an extension of herself, and therefore does not understand that the woman is not her wife to choose. And that their wedding is not her wedding.

3. She talks over her son and cuts people off, and raises her voice.

4. She speaks for not only her son, but also her husband and, apparently, 🙄, her entire extended family.

5. Peter is a momma's boy, living at home at 25 allowing his mom to tell him who to date, what to do, how to do it and who to marry.

I realize not all women are controlling narcissists. And I am very grateful that they aren't.

But I'm telling you, this is a classic situation that I find very relatable with respect to my family. And, it isn't good.

The woman that peter's mom wanted peter to marry -- Hannah-An-- was pissed off at Peter's cowardice and told him to man up and become man enough to stand up to his mother. And rightfully so, after he proposes to her, and she says yes, turns out that he calls off the engagement because in the end he didn't really want to propose to her but was pressured into doing so by his mom.

That's the poor girl who got caught in the middle. 🤡🤡😷

These mothers are home-wreckors, they ruin the lives of their sons and they don't care, love or respect their own kids because if they did then they wouldn't take actions to sabotage their child's love life, future and future accomplishments.

She's just a bitter hag, and honestly Peter needs to grow some fucking balls and do what he wants to do.

The hag in action for you to see with your own eyes, trash talking the woman her son actually loves:

Controlling women ruin the lives of their sons, make mammas boys and create incels. They're toxic as fuck and god damnit people need to know about it.

That is all. 🤙🏻

[Anonymous]

I’m gonna put out an unpopular opinion and say, I think she had valid points. Now, she could have controlled her facial expressions and left out that comment about, “he’ll have to fail to succeed” bit because that did come off as very hostile. But like Peter’s dad said, the public only sees what made the cut, not the entire exchange. I’m not saying Madison is a bad person or wrong for any of her beliefs but as a mother she has a valid reason to leary of a woman who said she wasn’t in love with her son, of someone who doesn’t have concern for how a situation is affecting others, or of someone who doesn’t have the maturity to at least apologize for keeping them waiting for 3 hours. To clarify, because I know that statement is going to just inflame these passionate Madison supporters, apologizing for making someone wait doesn’t mean you’re apologizing for your feelings or needing to sort some things out before going in, but more of an acknowledgement and consideration towards others that were involved in that event. It’s just respectful. They also said it was a very tense meeting. So yeah, given all the circumstances from their perspective, I could see why his parents were less than impressed. Aside from all of the bias, they had one other solid point and that’s that their values are entirely different. They have this lové conquers all mentality and it’s just not reality. Coming from a very similar situation, I can tell you it doesn’t. If it’s an uphill battle in the beginning and you have to sacrifice who you are to make it work it just isn’t meant to be. That’s not a dig at either of them, it’s just how it ends up playing out most of the time.

I did also notice that his younger brother commented on instagram about her not being what she was portrayed as because it’s reality tv. We don’t see everything. They actually met this girl. They are entitled to thinking she isn’t a good fit for him. Chris Harrison asked his parents their thought, that’s literally why they were on the show, and they did that, and now they’re villains for being direct? Sorry anyone expecting you to silence your opinions all in the name of love is an unrealistic expectation. I want people I love to keep it real with me and I hope if I was going in a direction that wasn’t going to lead me to being authentically myself, they’d point it out.

[Moonchild714]

Sadly, there are a lot of Mother's and Father's that are Narcissist and Control their children lives well into Adulthood. 1. It's up to the Adult Child to step away and take Command of their lives!!!

But I find it Laughable that soneine would use the Bachelor as an example... There is a reason 99.99% of these "Couples" don't make it to the the Actual Wedding... Because hiw can you fall in love n Fantasy Land and you know yoyre possible spiuse is making out with numerous other partners while supposedly falling in love with you. Four couples out of 30 actually got married... It's a Pathetic program that mocks romance and today's society. And unfortunately people actually want to strive for this in their lives...

[Robertcw]

Sure, but it is televised so it was the perfect opportunity to make a case in point.

[Moonchild714]

Remember it's TV and parts of it are set up to make ratings...

[Robertcw]

Yeah but the live audience wasn't scripted.

[Moonchild714]

You keep telling yourself that... There are plants in the audience and sorts of pre planned maneuvering to make it exciting... I'm not saying she's not horrible but can't help but wonder when it comes to those shows when all they really is Fame!!!

Now if you want an example of the Worst Mother/Mother-In-Law check out Dr. Phil

https://youtu.be/fkS4E0qMElk

https://youtu.be/02-SUcB7q0U

[LexyIsSexy23]

@Moonchild714 Edward Guy

[LexyIsSexy23]

You sure take the reality shows seriously. That's not psychology that's television but it's cute

[Moonchild714]

@LexyIsSexy23 what is Edward Guy? I don't watch Reality Shows so if he's a character on one of them, I have no clue...

[Moonchild714]

Thank you for MHO.

[Anonymous]

The "hag"? Would you be calling a man names if it were a man acting this way?
Because I know plenty of guys who are abusive and controlling and ruin a woman's life.

[Robertcw]

That's fair.

[tHISpLACEiSbONKERZ]

Duuuuude, whu the f are you even watching The Bachelor?

[Robertcw]

lol man. I don't normally watch ot

[bobalife]

I just finish part 2 of the finale. It was very frustrating to watch how his mom choose not to go with Peter’s choice, happiness, and love. I do hear where she’s coming from that she wants what is best for him and someone that loves him, but she failed to realize that she is trying to take away what’s best for him due to her bias and controlling behavior. By all means, whoever he chose would of fit him well as long as he loves her. It was very obvious Maddi already hold a dear place in his heart. I love how strong and independent Maddi is. It was also good seeing Peter backing her up and choosing what he believe is right. I think they will be fine as long as they continue to heal, stay strong, and love each other. It will take some time for the mom to accept her. But she does need to get over it 🙄 I was also pissed seeing how she was clapping for Hannah Ann when she was always having big talk that it’s about what’s “best” for her son instead of defending her son in that type of situation despite knowing he did do her wrong. He made a big mistake because of his family. It was just so hypocritical of the mom though.

But I agree the mom does seem manipulative/controlling with all her tears and making sure the family backs her up.

[DizzyDesii]

Hannah anns goal was to be more model famous anyways (if not to be the bachelor), so i dont feel bad for her because she was using peter in return. Plus hannahs already tryna get with tyler c

[AmandaYVR]

Wow, interesting.
I actually have 6 episodes left to watch, recorded, though I couldn't avoid hearing a wrap-up about it all, so I know what happens. This definitely adds another layer to the whole story.
Yep, this is seriously f'd up. Not all mothers are like this, of course, but I do think you have a point here. Females seem, in general, more involved with the emotional and psychological aspects of peoples' lives, and if it's a mother, watch out. At some point, they need to cut the apron strings. Some do seem to believe it's their birth right to be a continual major influence on their adult child's lives. It's more common in some other cultures than over here in North America, but these two women have a right to be pissed. We want our men to stand up for what they want, and they believe.

(I mentioned this briefly, the dangers of women acting like mothers or being seen as a mother figure unfairly, in one of my recent questions. Got into a little back-and-forth about this with one commenter.)
How can we fix the male/female direct/indirect communication gap?

[liburnia]

I have 2 sons and I love them the most that a mum can love and beyond that. All I want in life is for them to be happy. If they one day find a girl that I would for any reason think is not good for/to them I will feel invited to tell them what I feel and why I feel it like that (due to my life experience). What I will never do is tell them that they can't be with that person. I will be good to these women because they are somebody's daughters too. If my sons love them who am I to disagree. And if it fails between them I will be there to offer comfort like only mother can and encorage them to seek again the love they deserve.

[lightbulb27]

I didn't watch the show, thank God I didn't lose those hours of my life.

Mom might be right... the father sounded spot on. It sounds to me like the see very opposites in these twos and commonality with Hanna-Ann! Opposites "feel stronger" and it isn't always good. I'd wonder what the attraction is to Madison...

Now this girl is rejected by the family. This thing has low chance of working out... unless Madison operates out of spite...

So am I right this girl is a "bull" personality, she'll push and be bossy? She's clearly in a bad place now...

[lightbulb27]

I see they ended it already. there goes a bunch of peoples lives watching a useless show...

[DizzyDesii]

All madison said is that she's waiting til marriage for sex and petes fam went ballistic because they know he's a hoe. If anything theyre trying to warn her that she’ll be waiting alone as he’ll likely cheat on her. But i dont condone thebway the mom treated her. Not even sure what the mom saw in hannah ann aside from the fact that hannah gave it up on national tv. I mean clearly the fam is all about getting laid. Plus when the mom said she prayed and was thankful for hannah ann, i wondered just what devil she prayed too because she was TOO against her son being with a Christian woman (madison) who was waiting til marriage

[lightbulb27]

@DizzyDesii You are so right, I watched the followup videos. Madison dodged a bullet with that one, her senses were good. I think mom saw Hannah as herself. Gotta wonder why that family is so "slutty" accepting... something is up there... Must be Californication...:)

[DizzyDesii]

Yea i always thought peter was undercover gay anyways tbh. And if his fam was incestual, that wouldn't surprise me either lmao. But tbh, i watched madison all season and i really dont think she was a virgin. Its something off about her. Virgins always get famous off the bachelor so i think she used it as an excuse to standout (because she was hella boring all season until the last 3 eps) and also as an ultimatum to stop pete from sexing the others. But that did not stop him. He banged a lot of them even before fantasy suite

[lightbulb27]

@DizzyDesii
Like... why don't these people stay together. Yea, the producer picks them for this "interest"... women love it!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=854hYdnzFjk

[DizzyDesii]

First Hannah was a freakin looney. She made me wanna Like hannah ann lol

[Isten]

Not only a man's life, children with controlling parents are ruined by them. I can sympathise with Peter all too well, my mom even tells me what to tell people. I obviously do my shit, but that doesn't mean that I'm not affected by her controlling behaviour.

[lucas262]

Im 25, i live at home with my mom, iv found a great place to move to when i can afford the repairs.

I wouldn't let my mom's opinion stop what I wanted.

Growing up i wouldn't say she was nassastisitic but my sis tells me I was very manipulated, emasculated and controlled.

So its left me very confused on the inside in how to live life.

[lucas262]

Since i was adopted and have abuse in my history, doctors told her I'd never have a normal life, id need psych help all of my life so their ,, protection,, became overbearing, made me dependent, was a huge source of my depression in like always felt like a loser.

Wasn't allowed to hang out with friends, never left the house alone, told i couldn't drive or work because i wasn't right mentally, constantly reminded of needing ,, help,,

Same thing for my twin
And similar for my older siblings but it really screwed us up and I find it hard to live with almost like there is a real ugly truth I still can't come to grips with.

Love my mom to death, and she loves me

so much just not so well.

[sejla]

Honestly looking at her besides what she is saying she looks physical unhealthy. She's not living a healthy lifestyle in some way and that can affect someone mentally.

It's not like he has to marry this woman. This is just a gloried blind date.

[PeacefulRainDrop]

It was obvious who he wanted.. I recorded it haven't seen it yet but honestly I wanted him to pick Hannah Ann too he's crazy for not cause Madison will probably hold that over his head about what he decided to do in the fantasy suite for the rest of his life... Kelsey was my favorite!

[Meropatrick]

Wrong!! Controlling women dont only ruin their sons life. They actually ruin any poor soul that is placed in their path by the cruel hand of fate. They backbite their fave bffs. They bully the prettiest coworker in the office. They turn their husbands lives into a living hell

[PinkMichae]

I wouldn't call her abusive. She definitely should have listened to what her son wanted and not what she wanted.

But ultimately I think she saw what many others saw. That the other woman was a better match for him. But it wasn't who his heart wanted. His family needed to back off and let him follow his heart even if it would likely lead to heartbreak.

So I can agree with his mom being a little to controlling. But not abusive.

[ECityGirl89]

Omg where were you when I was watching this season alone. Your 5th one is so on point with Mamas boy. I was team Hannah Ann when it came down to the final 4. I bet his moms friends with her. I feel like when someone signs up for this show knowing she's “ saving herself for marriage.” Makes it even harder for the bachelor and his family choice. This season was another EPIC FAIL. How did I miss this myTake.

[purplepoppy]

You can't really blame him too much. Remember he's been manipulated and controlled by her since he was born. He's probably never been allowed to choose his dinner let alone a girlfriend.

[esotericstory]

His mom probably chooses his underwear too.

[Exterminatore]

I don’t care about the show or know anything about it.

Just wanted to say my mother is a malignant narcissist and a man hating feminist.

I despise narcissists and sociopaths. They are toxic, drama filled people. I feel bad for the guy and you if everything you describe is accurate as I can somewhat relate. Unlike Peter though I left my house when I was 18 and make my own decisions in life and am not controlled by my mother.

[DizzyDesii]

Wouldve never guessed you watch this. And yea my mom is similar. I see that they broke up like 2 days after the finale

[DizzyDesii]

*He and Madison broke up after like 2 days

[Robertcw]

Yeah. I bet she played a big part of why they broke up. Madison probably wanted peter to assert himself and confront his parents, and then leave and move out. And he probably refused.

[DizzyDesii]

I doubt that. Peter did stand up during the finale when he talked back to his mom (before choosing hannah). Still the mom prob overpowered her OR madison knew that peter couldnt live long without his mom, so she let him go. Basically, peter was obsessing over madison. And madison was just playing too many games of cat/mouse. Im pretty sure she left him first.. again

[pigoat]

That lady was funny as fuck she had me rollin on the floor everytime she was on camera rofl

[ashleysmommy]

I get the feeling he wants her virginity and then he will leave her. The drama was probably all for show. But if she and her son are really like that Maddie should runnnnnn! I hope Hannah finds someone insanely rich and nice!

[Robertcw]

It's not Peter's fault! He's a victim of his mother's narcissism and I think Madison realizes this.

[DizzyDesii]

lmao i said the same thing that he likes a cchallenge and just wants to take her virginity. I dont like petes mom but the way his fam
Kept saying “he REALLY likes to party and be sexual...” etc, i feel they were tryna warn madison that he's a fckboy

[hellacray]

Well this isn't too uncommon. Like there were pageant shows where you can clearly tell the moms didn't care about the child.

Parents need to learn to let their child go and to stop being so controlling.

[rapfan107]

Yeah I mothers like that and they definitely ruin their sons life with that type of mindset!!! Thinking they only know whats good for them and not caring about how they feel.

[DiscomfortZone]

An abusive narcissistic bitch recieving prime time spots on television, becoming a celebrity? No way, who'd have thought? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[art84]

His mother babies him. Once she passes away, he won't know how to continue without her being there as she's had control of his life since was a baby. Feel bad for him, reminds me of The Waterboy.

[Anoniemus]

If there isn't a point in his life where he decided that he wanted to do things for himself instead of being taken care of, he deserves it.